Is Christian Television Relevant
I never watched Christian television before I was saved. After I was saved I watched it all the time. As I studied God's Word I quit watching TBN entirely. They pick those who are in agreement with their fund raising procedures and who preach prosperity. Even good teaching is tainted when they make it appear that God will bless those who financially support them and neglect those who don't support them. The main curse of the Law is condemnation and they use old covenant teachings to condemn those who don't understand grace. Even those truly saved still have to contend with their flesh. Nothing corrupts the flesh more than pride, money, self-centerness,, etc and seeking glory for one's self.
---Bob on 2/15/10|
These TV channels (all of them) can provide some of the most relevant instruction in the Word as you can find... if you truly want to deepen your understanding of scripture--not just sit and watch "feel good" programming.
When one bounces what is "preached" on these shows against the Bible, one can discover that virtually all (the exceptions do not survive) who take to these airwaves are steeped in "false Christianity".
However: it takes great effort and an open Bible to accomplish the feat. These guys are very good at what they do. (Christians should be so well trained.)
I watch, periodically. It keeps me apprised of what the devil is up to, within the "church".
---BruceB on 2/13/10|
TBN /Daystar are the World Wide Wrestling of Cristianity! It is all fake!
---Pastor_Jim on 11/9/09|
if you were confined to your hospital bed, you wouldn't ask that question
---jerry on 11/9/09|
Daystar and TBN are both big jokes.
The joke is on those people who send them their money along with those who appear on these networks.
---Rob on 11/9/09|
Christian television is revelvant if it is truely Christian, and not like those networks which claim to be Christian, but in reality they are not.
---Rob on 11/5/09|
Yes Christian TV and Christian radio... brings the Gospel of Christ and helps us concentrate on scripture
As we meditate more, God's Spirit helps us to understand scripture and are able to identify preaching which may not be in tune with scripture
---patie3447 on 11/4/09|
Yes its relevant though most of the audience is already saved and in the 55+ demographic which donates to Christian TV.
For every white suited slain-in-the-spirit ringmaster there is a Brian Houston, Kay Arthur, Joyce Meyer or T.D. Jakes of Potter's House through whom many lives are changed.
Yes Christian TV is still relevant.
---larry on 9/23/09|
Yes. Yes, when you find a good Christian broadcast it is a good thing. Unfortunately most of the so-called Christian shows contain false-doctrines and worldly entertainment and have nothing at all to do with the gospel, and so most of them are worthless and can lead people away from God down into perdition rather then leading them to him.
---Eloy on 9/22/09|
At one time, I watched some of the (C.B.N., Daystar T.N., P.T.L., T.B.N.) stations as they used to have a few good programs, and at least one interesting guest on their variety shows. But, good teaching doesn't bring in the cash as well as feeding the fleshly nature. And consistently, if a preacher were to criticize another guests doctrine, or try to correct the host, they would be fired. Cash Luna, on T.B.N. Enlace, is worth watching though.
Romans 1:16-17, 1Corinthians 10:32-33, 2Corinthians 4:1-5, 6:3, Galatians 2:20, 5:11, Hebrews 4:12.
---Glenn on 8/23/09|
Susie B "\\Jezebel wig=====Pink, poofy, overdone phon-looking wig on a woman, generally accompanied with fake eyelashes and over abundance of makeup. Dark, phony-looking wig on a man, generally accompanied with over abundance of makeup and sometimes fake eyelashes. Vanity at its best!!!!"
No, this is just your opinion. Holy Scriptures doesn't agree with your definition of a Jezebel spirit. So should we include your teaching in the list of the many unscriptura doctrines/practices you hold?
As StrongAxe has pointed out, your reasoning of the Scriptura text you gave is silly.
---Ignatius on 8/23/09|
Well,I do not watch Christian TV anymore.I did for about the first 5 years I was a Christian.It seems too false to me.I see the rings etc.they wear and believe they should be sold to feed the poor,for free medical care to the sick and to spread the gospel worldwide.Christianity is not about money but the good things that can be done with it.
---shirley on 8/23/09|
You quoted a scripture that said that Jezebel painted her face and looked out a window. From this scripture, you concluded that anyone who paints their face is a Jezebel. But by using exactly the same kind of reasoning, one could also conclude that anyone who looks out a window is also a Jezebel.
This is an absurd conclusion, which points the absurdity of this kind of reasoning.
You accuse me of picking which verses I like (I don't - I accept them all), yet you are taking half a verse, and then saying that your conclusions that apply to one half verse don't apply to the other half.
---StrongAxe on 8/23/09|
\\ I quoted the scripture which supported my using the term Jezebel in the context in which I used it. Your arguments are now bordering on silly Strong Axe and Cluny.\\
Here's MY use of "Jezebel" based on the Bible.
"Jezebel" in the NT refers to a woman like you who claims to speak for God, but does not.
---Cluny on 8/23/09|
"Relevant to your life, of course! All else is moot."
---Randy_Robison on 8/18/09
Randy, I take this as an answer to my inquiry. In light of that, my answer is no. No T.V. program has any bearing upon, nor any connection with my life in any way, form, or fashion. My life is in Christ, influenced, guided and empowered of Him.
"Christian television" is simply informative and/or entertaining.
---Josef on 8/23/09|
I quoted the scripture which supported my using the term Jezebel in the context in which I used it. Your arguments are now bordering on silly Strong Axe and Cluny.
---SusieB on 8/22/09|
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\\ StrongAxe...Thank you for proving my point that the only scriptures you think relevant are the ones that you agree with.
---SusieB on 8/21/09\\
And of course, you never think that, do you, susieb?
---Cluny on 8/22/09|
If you want to make a point based on any other scriptures, please state them - don't expect everybody else to deduce them for you. I'm happy to consider any evidence anyone is willing to provide. (Sadly, many people on these blogs make assertions but then don't provide scriptures to back them up).
Also, if you quote a scripture to prove a particular point, you can't then ignore the other parts of the same scripture that go against your point.
---StrongAxe on 8/22/09|
StrongAxe...Thank you for proving my point that the only scriptures you think relevant are the ones that you agree with.
---SusieB on 8/21/09|
Geraldine-point taken. There are some churches who simply put their regular services online or on TV to reach those who are afar or even soldiers overseas. These services can be very helpful as my church receives letters from servicemembers every week.
Others are truly charlatans, special prophets with prayer cloths, etc. Some are accountable in their collections for the poor and hungry, others top off huge adminsitrative costs.
The latest fad is those who sell bunker ready food supplies and exploit the fears of the senior audience, and the faux news programs which are really from a conservative rather than Christ-centered point of view. Piety is used as a facade
---larry on 8/21/09|
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Yes, she painted her face. But the Bible makes no condemnation of this fact per se. You are extrapolating such a condemnation yourself.
She also looked out the window. By the same reasoning, should we also board up our windows, because looking out windows would make us Jezebels?
---StrongAxe on 8/21/09|
2 Kings 9:30
And when Jehu was come to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it, and she painted her face, and tired her head, and looked out at a window.
---SusieB on 8/21/09|
I don't know SusieB (or most other people) well enough to qualify as any kind of fruit inspector. However, one thing I've noticed from many places (the New Testament, work places, social venues, internet forums, current headlines, etc.) is that those who shout the loudest about the problems of others often have a lot of their own problems to deal with.
Since we all live in glass houses, those who throw the most stones are the most likely to cut themselves on broken glass.
---StrongAxe on 8/20/09|
\\If you imply that "someone is anti-God by wearing a pink poofy wig", you are elevating your own fashion sense to the level of God's word, which is perilously close to idolatry in its own right.
---StrongAxe on 8/19/09
cluny...The Bible says that we will know them by their fruits. That's God's word, not mine!
---SusieB on 8/19/09\\
StrongAxe, would you say that the kind of closeness to idolatry that susieb is showing is a fruit of the Holy Spirit?
---Cluny on 8/20/09|
The Bible uses the term Jezebel to refer to two different women:
1) in 1 Kings, an evil queen who slew prophets
2) in Revelation 2:20, a false prophetess who preached fornication and idolatry
If you call someone a Jezebel (or possessed of a Jezebel spirit) you are saying that they do one or more of these things.
If you imply that "someone is anti-God by wearing a pink poofy wig", you are elevating your own fashion sense to the level of God's word, which is perilously close to idolatry in its own right.
---StrongAxe on 8/19/09|
cluny...The Bible says that we will know them by their fruits. That's God's word, not mine!
---SusieB on 8/19/09|
\\By the way, do you think God likes all the phoneyness????
---SusieB on 8/17/09\\
I neither pretend nor would presume to know what God likes and doesn't like.
Do you so pretend and presume?
---Cluny on 8/19/09|
Relevant to your life, of course! All else is moot.
---Randy_Robison on 8/18/09|
Cluny...Thanks for your suggestion. Fortunately, I have an education and am able to decide what terms I want to use in discussions on here. Thanks anyway. By the way, do you think God likes all the phoneyness????
---SusieB on 8/17/09|
Maybe instead of using the terms "Jezebel" and "Jezebel spirits" for fashion accessories we don't like, it might be better to reserve the use of "Jezebel" and related terms for women who think they are prophets, but are not, as John did in Revelation 2:20.
Don't you agree?
---Cluny on 8/17/09|
i think we all should take the plank out of our own eyes before we point out the speck in our brothers.
---julie on 8/16/09|
\\Jezebel wig=====Pink, poofy, overdone phon-looking wig on a woman, generally accompanied with fake eyelashes and over abundance of makeup. Dark, phony-looking wig on a man, generally accompanied with over abundance of makeup and sometimes fake eyelashes. Vanity at its best!!!! The Bible tells us to know them by their fruits. Self-indulgence is not a good fruit.
---SusieB on 8/15/09\\
In other words, you use the loaded word "Jezebel" as a short way of saying nothing more than, "I don't like this."
---Cluny on 8/16/09|
"Is Christian television relevant?" Relevant to what?
"As a Christian, do you actually watch Christian television?" Yes.
Why? Because even though there may be some who are preaching Christ out of envy, competition, and/or selfish ambition. I know there are others who do it out of a good heart and are motivated by their love for the Father and their fellow man. Therefore "whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached, and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice." Besides, I can never hear Father's spoken word enough, and I trust any errors will be discerned through Christ in Me, and if I "drink any deadly thing":o), it will not harm me, for the truth will be brought to light.
---Josef on 8/16/09|
I recommend RADIO broadcast of religious programs rather than TV, because there is less opportunity for those who want to strut their own ego. Another good listening place is church services on computer. Also on Sunday regular networks carry local church services where less vanity shows up. There is one TV service where I see no strutting and much sincere devotion, the Rejoice TV broadcast from Pensacola Florida Christian College campus. It is on Day Star in my area at 7:00 Central time, Sunday evening. Even the song service is humble and old fashioned and good.
---Geraldine on 8/15/09|
Oops--sorry about that SusieB, thank you, though, for clearing that up. :)
---Mary on 8/15/09|
I don't watch Christian tv a lot. I watch cartoons.
I agree with the prophet thing, but I'm not sure if it pertains to the Christian channel, cos I don't watch it a lot, but I agree with the prophet thing in that I see many Christians claiming to be prophets or thinking they are prophets. It's actually freaking me out a little bit, because the Bible did warn about false prophets, but I didn't think it would be that obvious, that people would be actually proclaiming, "I think I'm a prophet and you should do such and such." Maybe on the street corner, or in the gutter, but in our churches?
---amand6348 on 8/15/09|
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Jezebel wig=====Pink, poofy, overdone phon-looking wig on a woman, generally accompanied with fake eyelashes and over abundance of makeup. Dark, phony-looking wig on a man, generally accompanied with over abundance of makeup and sometimes fake eyelashes. Vanity at its best!!!! The Bible tells us to know them by their fruits. Self-indulgence is not a good fruit.
---SusieB on 8/15/09|
\\and wearing those Jezebel wigs to feed their vanity. \\
What is a "Jezebel wig," susieb, and why are YOU the authority on what makes one such?
How can YOU see into people's hearts about what feeds their vanity, and how do you bear such intimate knowledge about total strangers?
---Cluny on 8/15/09|
Mary....I wasn't referring to just women when I said so-called Christian television is full of people with Jezebel spirits.
---SusieB on 8/15/09|
What about a "Master Prophet" (Whatever that means)? Is a "Master Prophet" like a black belt of the Prophets? Bishop Bernard Jordan, who airs on The Word Network, claim to be one. Members of the The Prophetic Inner Circle gets assign with there own personal prophet, who will deliver the words of the Almighty. Just for a seed of $1,000 dollars. Of course he does give you a "free" message if you order for it in his website. Just check his website, and you know he is not from God.
I don't watch TBN or TWN. Too many heresies, self proclaim Prophets. They are not teaching Ancient Christianity as preach by the Ancient and Apostolic Churches of the East (Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, etc).
---Ignatius on 8/15/09|
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Love it Cluny!! :D I personally am sick of hearing of every other woman having "the Jezebel spirit" when I don't buy into that! :)
---Mary on 8/14/09|
cluny...Actually I was referring to their deceptive, manipulating, worldly acts. However, there are many women (and men) who are applying that makeup pretty heavy and wearing those Jezebel wigs to feed their vanity. Thing is that the makeup and wigs are so outrageous that it makes them look worse. It's not just the women who have a problem thinking they are some kind of prophet. When someone says they are a "prophet" that's a good clue you need to change the channel. Cluny, you might be surprised to find out I am a pentecostal who does not watch televangelists because they are not preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ.
---SusieB on 8/14/09|
Most of Christian TV has little relevance to me. It seems faddish and theatrical, so I seldom watch.
However, I know that in some parts of the world it is the most available gospel witness. I believe the Lord has used TV (but not as much as radio!) to reach the world.
I may not agree with all the doctrine of every program... But if the listener can understand the divinity of Jesus and his sacrificial death that allows reconciliation with God...I'm satisfied that the Lord is using the broadcast.
---Donna66 on 8/14/09|
\\Most of them have the Jezebel spirit.
---SusieB on 8/13/09
Does having a Jezebel spirit include applying cosmetics (which the OT Jezebel did)?
Or women thinking they are prophets when they are not (as the reference to Jezebel in Revelation says)?
Or is a "Jezebel spirit" simply shorthand for saying "SusieB disagrees with this"?
---Cluny on 8/14/09|
there is scripture were the apostles approaached jesus saying that there were people .in his name,doing works.They were told by jesus to leave them alone,that they were spreading the message,need I say more?
---tom2 on 8/13/09|
Lawrence...I agree with what you have to say. Many of those on so-called Christian television are preaching another gospel. Jesus told us not to listen to them. Most of them have the Jezebel spirit.
---SusieB on 8/13/09|
It seems like tv ministers always have their hands out for your money(like some politicians)to live their lavish life styles. Some Ladies are decked out like jezebels,some with not enough clothes on,some men with some tight clothing(some ladies also)to show their body form,even their crafty speaking. Some Bible teachings are right,But,what they teach for salvation Are Lies. Easy believism,repeat aft me,once saved always saved,say this simple prayer & the such like is False with NO scriptural basis. To much theatrics behind the pulpit. This All started with r-catholocism,their idol,graven image worship the first trin-church,Is abomination to Almighty God. God's Only Salvation Plan Mark 16 v 16,Acts 2 v's 37-41 Fulfills Matt 28 v's 19-20.
---Lawrence on 8/13/09|
I truly believe that the mass media,tv,radio,the ability to travel anywhere in the world,are all part of Gods plan to enable the gospel message to be delivered worldwide,so that the return of jesus,and the words he prophesied about worldwide evangelism of the gospel can take place.
---tom2 on 8/13/09|
Something, be it Christian TV or anything else, cannot be "relevant" all by itself.
It has to be relavant TO something else.
Now, to what other thing do you think Christian TV should be relevant?
---Cluny on 8/13/09|