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Does Obama Follow Evil Plan

"Obama is following Lucifers long term plan, persecute the Jews and divide up the holy land, enrich the rich, facilitate the rise of Islam, quietly encourage the persecution of Christians, support acceptance of Sodomy, facilitate infanticide." Is the statement true or false?

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On July 28, 2009, Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino issued a statement saying, "I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen,".
---Trish on 8/30/09


Mima: You are spreading lies...Obama was born in Hawaii...it has been proven over and over again...stop believing what you read on the Internet...it is fiction, as is what you have written about Obama.
---Trish9863 on 8/30/09


A word about this question. I found the question on the Internet. Because of the interest shown in the question, and have made a study about Obama. Obama was born in Kenya to an 18 year old American mother who later brought him to Hawaii and obtained a birth certificate for him from Hawaii.
---mima on 8/30/09

Hogwash.. Where is your proof? You have none because it dosn't exist.

Come on Mima... supply your proof. You, as much as anyone here, should know that bearing false witness is a sin.
---NurseRobert on 8/30/09


A word about this question. I found the question on the Internet. Because of the interest shown in the question, and have made a study about Obama. Obama was born in Kenya to an 18 year old American mother who later brought him to Hawaii and obtained a birth certificate for him from Hawaii.
Later his father in Indonesian officially adopted Obama thereby causing Obama to lose his American citizenship. IF what I read is true, then certainly this should be investigated. I also did not know that adoption causes the person being adopted could lose their citizenship if it is different than the country they're being adopted into.
---mima on 8/30/09


It would seem that B.O. is trying to "change" America into a national socialist country. He has nationalized the banks, he has nationalized the car companies, and now he seeks to nationalize health care. There was another guy who led a "national socialist party" and took over his country's banks, car companies and health care. Now, who was that guy.....? Oh yes, it was Adolph Hitler and his national socialist (NAZI) party.
---jerry6593 on 8/30/09




"Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all sins." (Proverbs 10:12)
---Leon on 8/29/09


obama ia just that little dog that sits on the hood of a bigger democratic truck, while it attemts to take us all over a high clift.
---jerry on 8/29/09


Wayne, I found an interesting page online. Now I know where you got your statemnts from.

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit the books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Page 22 of H.R. 3200 requests a study, not an audit, of the effects to which rating rules are likely to cause adverse selection in the large group market and employer self insurance market insurance market. This does not require an audit of ALL employers that self insure
---NurseRobert on 8/29/09


Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!

This is a misreading of the text. This section limits the amount of out-of-pocket costs you will face to $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 (indexed to CPI) for a family for a basic package of care. This ensures you have access to affordable care and wont go bankrupt paying for it.
---NurseRobert on 8/29/09


We have all heard from the liberal side, "Stop listing to Fox." First what is Fox going to say that is so woeful to liberals? Next, isn't that the purest form of censorship?
When your view opposes that of a liberal they don't say look at all sides of the issue. They say don't look at the opposing side.
As for freedoms at stake... look at the guns. How about taking away cars they have killed far more than guns have and have not been around no where as long. So look at both sides, What is the real issue? And, why?
---Elder on 8/29/09




Wayne posted on 8/29

Pg 22
If they choose to self insure, the government will assure they have the money to meet the insurance obilgations. They do that with insurance companies now.

Pg 30
this keeps insurance companies from sticking it to their employees with lousy insurance.

Pg 29
Wrong... it is putting a limit on what people will have to pay in any given year. Go to page 7 and read the definition of "cost sharing."

Pg 42 Again, this is being done with insurance companies now. you dont have a lot of choice now.
---NurseRobert on 8/29/09


Steveng - I do get my info. from the Bible. The people that I refer to, have studied the Bible on this. It is ALL in the Bible.
---Leslie on 8/29/09


Lets see, Wayne suggest that we all pray. And most of you jumped on him for saying that. My question is, why pray? What good will it do? What can God do? Many of you forget what you believe, you believe that man has a free will. That God cannot interfere with man's freedom. That He is not loving when He interfers. So why go to Him for anything if man is in control? Prayer to most of you is meaningless. God's hands are tight. Man is in control with his free will. you might as well pray to Obama and see what results you get. Maybe he will hear you and change his ways.
---MarkV. on 8/29/09


Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL
EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Pg 30 Section 123 of HC Bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE
that decides what treatments/benefits you get

Pg 29 Lines 4-16 of the HC Bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!

Pg 42 of the HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose
YOUR HEALTHCARE Benefits for you. You have no choice!
---wayne on 8/29/09


Nurse Robert. Yes that's a good quote. His "qualifications" were not exceptional and he knew it. Still he was popular and was elected Governor of Texas and later president.

I understood that even his parents were suprised he was elected prez! If it had been Jeb they would have been less so.

But he wasn't "dumb"...He talked like a Texan, without much concern for "proper" pronunciation. He was a Yale graduate, but not a spectacular student when he was there.
---Donna66 on 8/28/09


BTW, NurseRobert, thanks for not being a Bush hater. I don't hate Obama, either...but his policies worry me a lot.
---Donna66 on 8/28/09


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Only the president can address whether this statement is true or false.
Coming from anyone else it is simply speculation and/or innuendo.
---Josef on 8/29/09


SusieB ... Are you sure?

That's what I thought too, but then saw the use of the word "whom" in his last post here.

It would be correct to say "Moses to whom God gave the 10 Commandments",

But "Moses whom gave us the 10 Commandments" is incorrect. It should be "who"

That incorrect use of "whom" was an Eloy speciality, which is why I thought this must be Eloy returned.

I agree that otherwise it does not sound like Eloy.
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/29/09


Donna, I understand... I never wished Bush was dead, just not president..

maybe this quote would be better:

"You know I could run for governor but I'm basically a media creation. I've never done anything. I've worked for my dad. I worked in the oil business. But that's not the kind of profile you have to have to get elected to public office." George W. Bush, 1989
---NurseRobert on 8/28/09


larry -- I have read the proposal. It's freely available on the internet.No "talking points", but some disturbing aspects.

Of course, there are no "death panels", but there is no way this plan could be implemented without rationing care (which must based on private information harvested by the gov't)
If you believe "you can keep the plan you have and the doctor you like", YOU'd better start reading. This might be true for a short time, but your employer is likely to quit insuring you. The fine is cheaper for them! People switching to the "public option" will cause private insurance to skyrocket or go out of business due to lack of enrolees.There go your "choices"
---Donna66 on 8/28/09


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the statement is very true. . . and in re to the person who stated the issues of racial tones in politics. . . hatred, sin, and satans plans for human distruction has no color lines. but also keep in mind that the love of Jesus has no color lines as well. he died for all of us. it is up to us to look past what the world and the prince of this world wants us to see. when we dont allow the spirit of the Lord to lead us in wisdom we fall victim to the system. ask for clear understanding and the spirit will grant that to you unlimited.
---AMELIA on 8/28/09


Trish you are correct. Few have read the proposal and are getting talking points on HR 3200 for town hall meetings from talk radio.
Its important to remember its a "proposal" that is already DOA because the Gang of 6 say a public option is off the table in the Senate. So in truth we have no idea what the bill finally voted on will look like and that is the biggest problem for democrats, they selling an idea not a bill.
Meanwhile the question on health care for pagans is "can we afford it?".
The question for believers is "do we care about people who don't have insurance?"
Its a simple yes or no question and the answer affects everything believers say in reference to health care reform.
---larry on 8/28/09


Alan...The Eloy who is posting now days is not the long-time, Godly man who has posted here for many years.
---SusieB on 8/28/09


Donna, come on now. You know how the game is played. Questioning or criticizing a liberal is way out of line. Instead of the liberals attempting to explain the benefits and virtues of their plans, they simply label you.

Let's see, so far we've read here that folks are racist, suffer from mental retardation, wear tin hats, unchristian, etc, etc. I've yet to read on this blog, or any blog, a liberal that proudly stands by their ideas. It's simply easier to call people sinful bigoted kooks.

I wonder if Senator Obama, Rev. Sharpton, Rev. Jackson, Rev. Wright, et al, all black, all "Christians" were being racists when they vehemently criticized white Christian President Bush. No, that would be absurd.
---ralph7477 on 8/28/09


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NurseRobert-- Well, OK, in 2005 Bush defended Cheny. 2006, 2007, 2008 were years he took the greatest heat.
Even the quote you cite was not Bush defending Bush. In a sense I can understand, because much of what we heard was along the lines of "I hate Bush...I wish he would die!" A criticism CAN be defended against. Hatred is best ignored. Bush was not thin-skinned.

Eloy
I am a conservative and know a lot of people who disagree completely with Obama,which is an American privilege ("the highest form of patriotism", we were told when Bush was president) but I know of no one who "hates" him. I've not heard that once since Obama took office!
---Donna66 on 8/28/09


Its a plot to take over our freedoms. Remember we are all in this together. If we pray seriously God will show us what is truth.
Please lets put politics aside, our freedoms are at stake. ---wayne on 8/28/09


Youve been listening to Sarah too long.

Just HOW are your "freedoms at stake" from this "health kare bill". Have you bothered to read it?
---NurseRobert on 8/28/09


Wayne: Read the bill yourself and learn what it says. The Thomas website give you access to the exact document being discussed. Stop listening to Fox, or the other news channels and read the document in its entirety and judge for yourself what it says.
---Trish9863 on 8/28/09


NurseRobert: This blog illustrates the cumalative affects of sin whereas it puffs some people up & causes mental retardation. It's sad the number of stinkin' thinkin' (putrified), unbalanced comments & responses made here. Sin is stinkin'!
---Leon on 8/28/09


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Eloy: FYI, Moses wasn't "white". He was a Hebrew, a "tan man". Then again, aren't we all? Ethnic whites - blacks, to one degree or another, are tan? Contrary to popular belief, no one is really white or black. It's an elitist advanced illusion. :)

You're right about the numerous non-Christian "Christians". Unless they truly repent before God, they're destined for destruction in the day the Lord separates the wheat from the chaff.
---Leon on 8/28/09


while we here on CN are arguing among ourselves there is a revolution going on in DC, and they do not have our best interest in mind. This goes far behond Obama and Bush. This health kare bill was written years ago. We need to know the truth, and this admin is not telling us the truth. Its a plot to take over our freedoms. Remember we are all in this together. If we pray seriously God will show us what is truth.
Please lets put politics aside, our freedoms are at stake.
---wayne on 8/28/09


Eloy....There goes that race thing again with you. You are the one with a racial bias. As far as the preachers speaking negative about President Obama, their job is to preach truth. That means if Obama is supporting something that is immoral or sinful it is the job of the preacher to speak against it. Would you want the preacher to support abortion, for instance, when that subject comes up?
---SusieB on 8/28/09


Eloy ... WELCOME back

We have missed you!
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/28/09


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This statment IS False!
---BB on 8/28/09


SusieB: I agree with Larry that Mima might be confused. The scriptures that Larry posted point out that Mima is being divisive with his question, and not edifying the body at all by posting it. Pagan? Probably not, but definitely confused.
---Trish9863 on 8/28/09


Bush didn't "waste" any time "defending" himself.
---Donna66 on 8/27/09

Could it be that he had no defense??

"I think we are welcomed. But it was not a peaceful welcome." George W. Bush, defending Vice President Dick Cheney's pre-war assertion that the United States would be welcomed in Iraq as liberators, NBC Nightly News interview, Dec. 12, 2005
---NurseRobert on 8/28/09


Such hypocrisy.
---wayne on 8/27/09

Wayne, ask Mima why he posted then never comes back to discuss this. Childish....
---NurseRobert on 8/28/09


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Jim, BHO wants health kare for a different reason then whats on the surface.. It's all about CONTROL of our lives, nothing more.
...
---wayne on 8/27/09

Now YOUR tin hat is slipping..
---NurseRobert on 8/28/09


Larry, thank you for a voice of reason.
---Trish9863 on 8/28/09


Mima....Hear that??? Larry thinks you might be a pagan. That one made my day. I always enjoy a good laugh and I bet Mima is laughing at that one too.
---SusieB on 8/28/09


donna66 & susieB, Many NonChristians call themselves Christian, but in truth they are not Christian at all. You know them by the fruits they bear, by what they say and by what they do, whether or not a person is a true Christian or not. The so-called Christian ministers whom speak hatred and are ungrateful for our President, this is not from Christ to castigate the leader of our country. What witness are we giving other nations round about, the white man whom constantly berates their black leader. The prejudice one and hypocrite forget that white Moses whom gave us the 10 Commandments married a black ethiopian woman, and when Moses's sister objected she was struck by leprosy. We would all do well to learn to love properly.
---Eloy on 8/28/09


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Thank you Cluny, and Leslie be careful for you will account for your words.

The question indicates the questioners is either very confused or pagan.

In any case...dear questioner...
start here...

Ephesians 4:29 says, Let no unwholesome speech proceed out of your mouth, but only such speech
as is good and beneficial to the spiritual progress of others, as is fitting to the need and the occasion,
that it may be a blessing and give grace to those who hear it.

Colossians 4:6 tells us to, Let your speech at all times be gracious, pleasant and winsome, seasoned
as it were with salt, so you may never be at a loss to know how you ought to answer anyone who
puts a question to you.
---larry on 8/27/09


Wayne: REREAD my post. I said "PUBLIC prayer should not be done in PUBLIC school." I teach in a public school. My students are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists.

I get together with Christian colleagues every morning for prayer. Nobody stops us.

Students can pray on their own time, in their own way. The Muslims can go to a different room during Ramadan so as not to be in the lunchroom during fasting. Catholic kids get the day off for Holy Communion practices, and don't get marked absent.

I am an intelligent, educated teacher and social worker. I think for myself, and don't need the government, or anyone else to tell me what to think or believe.
---Trish9863 on 8/27/09


Leslie: "Cluny, Mary, NurseRobert - I get my info. from people that have done extensive research in Biblical Hebrew, and Biblical Prophecy."

Why do you get your information from humans instead of God himself. He's the one that gives away any information, any type of knowledge, any type of answer, you seek just for the asking. Why put your trust in humans? You only believe the information you seek based upon your preconcieved ideas that fit your way of thinking. You take a little from the pro people and you mix it in with the people of the con persuasion and, voila, you have yourself your own thinking.

Trust only in the Lord, especially in today's perplexing world.
---Steveng on 8/27/09


trish you say that prayer should not be done in public schuls. Why not? cause the gov says not to? give me a break. tell that to the students that were being shot at in Columbine HS. This is old hash they had during the Apostles time. Kings made a decree, thou shall not pray in Jesus's name.
Thou shalt not pray except to the king. bla bla bla. What did Daniel do?
---wayne on 8/27/09


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Cluny, did you know...Patrick Henry, the founding father of the country said " It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionist but by Christians, not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
---wayne on 8/27/09


Jim, BHO wants health kare for a different reason then whats on the surface.. It's all about CONTROL of our lives, nothing more.
.......... And for all of you who voted for BHO for the color of his skin, then you should take a look at Allen Keyes. Now there's a true Black American who has morals who could run for president, and did so in one of the primaries at one time.
---wayne on 8/27/09


\\When you look at the Bible in context to how God wants us to understand it, you can see that Obama has the bloodline of Satan. \\

There is no such thing as the "bloodline of Satan," as he doesn't have blood.

Jumping up and down and repeating "It's in the Bible!" won't put it in there, either.
---Cluny on 8/27/09


Eloy....Why is it that you think that everyone who disagrees with Obama is doing so because he has darker skin? You have no idea of the race of those of us who are posting on here, nor do you have any idea whether or not some are prejudice. I am getting sick and tired of people thinking we disagree with Obama because of the color of his skin. He is as much white as he is black. Many of us on these blogs make our decisions by what a person stands for and not the color of their skin. I remember when their were separate schools, bathroom and businesses. Stop spreading the hatred by calling people prejudice.
---SusieB on 8/27/09


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Wayne, public prayer should not be done in the public schools, Obama does not support abortion, if you know otherwise, please cite me an exact source so I can stand corrected. Mima's question is divisive among us, the participants on Christianet.

We do not know Obama's answers to this question, only he does. Why would Mima post this question except to stir up arguments and dissent here on CN?
---Trish9863 on 8/27/09


Elroy

>>>and these foul-mouthed imposter christians will indeed give an account of their malignities they have spouted publicly.<<<

Is this also true for the "Christians" who publically wished death to Bush and Cheney and defamed them in every way? Bush didn't "waste" any time "defending" himself.
---Donna66 on 8/27/09


And where are you getting this from??? Your tin hat is slipping.
---NurseRobert on 8/26/09

The statement is False.

GOD allowed Barack Obama to come and hold offices in both the Senate, and the Presidency, for a reason. Again, GOD is the one who put Barack Obama into power. Study the book of Romans in the Bible.

Many of us may not agree with what is going on. However, GOD has a plan. I believe that he is trying to get us to understand what he knows we just don't.

Disagreeing, and tearing down, whomever GOD has put in place in order to fulfill his plan is really TEARING DOWN GOD.

I'd put your "tin hat" back on and repent for your seemingly bitter question.
---Augie on 8/27/09


Cluny, Mary, NurseRobert - I get my info. from people that have done extensive research in Biblical Hebrew, and Biblical Prophecy. When you look at the Bible in context to how God wants us to understand it, you can see that Obama has the bloodline of Satan. This is NOT fairytale, but BIBLICAL. I encourage ALL of you to read your Bibles, so you will NOT be decieved as you are now. Satan's #1 tactic is to decieve, don't fall for it.
---Leslie on 8/27/09


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FALSE

The Bible does say that ALL leaders are appointed by God. Romans 13:1.

I think that President Obama has some "good" values and some "bad" values. However, the Bible says that ALL of us have that sinful, character, makeup. Romans 3:23.

Sin came when Lucifer disguised himself as a serpent and deceived Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Ever since that original sin, ALL people have had to choose between serving God and serving Lucifer. Not just President Obama!

I believe that God is letting things get "bad" so that we'll clearly see that we have NO CHOICE but to come back to him. Only God has the answers to all of the problems facing the USA and the world.




---Sag on 8/27/09


It must be acknowledged that:
1) Obama is a Christian.
2) Obama has a job to do as President of the United States of America.
3) Obama made the claim that America is not a Christian nation.
4) Obama probably made a big mistake by making that claim.(America has been proclaimed a Christian nation by Congress,...)
5) Obama has never advocated the practice of sodomy.
6) If Obama were following Lucifer's plan he would keep America in Iraq and Afghanistan indefinitely, but, in fact, he did vote against the Iraq war, and does plan to get the U.S. out of those areas of conflict.
7) If Obama were following Lucifer's plan he would not want all people to have health care.
---Jim on 8/27/09


According to Glen Beck there are forces at work that go deeper than dems or repubs. Forces that are now and in the past have influnced our gov. Forces that are engaged in destroying our way of life. According to Beck," We must fight back first by praying, then let our voices be heard and never shut up" and I agree. Who can argue with that?
If you doubt what is happening, guggle Van Jones. If you really care for the truth.
---wayne on 8/27/09


\\ I suppose you think supporting abortions and the alternate life style, and denying Prayer on school property (of which the gov should not permote or restrict) and the attempt to silence conservatives by calling it hate speech.\\

wayne, how would you feel about Government-permitted Islamic prayer on school property?

Or did you just assume that all prayer in schools would be Evangelical Christians ones?
---Cluny on 8/27/09


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Wayne ... the quote that Mima put in his question was not divisive?

It did not show hatred?

Obama tried to silence it?

"Obama is from the bloodline of Satan (Cain, Ishmail, Esau), and his main goal is to destroy America" is of course not hate speech
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/27/09


I get so tired of hearing "white press" and "don't hate on Obama because of his skin color". Just because I disagree with Obama's stand on abortion, gay rights, the increase of the national debt, and current actions with Israel DOES NOT MEAN I AM RACIST or a "so-called Christian". I do pray for President Obama regularly and respect the office tremendously. But as a white woman in America I get tired of being told that I am racist because I don't agree with Obama. That is absurd.
---Lenore on 8/27/09


"Why not just send some plagues..."

We've been plagued by liberals for decades now. Like locust, they devour anything that is green, mostly from the wallets of Americans.
---ralph7477 on 8/27/09


Obama is Lucifer.

His real name is Barry Lucifer, and as his true birth certificate shows, he was born in Hades...Duh!
---atheist on 8/27/09


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To those of you who think Mima's question is devisive and not edifying Christians. I suppose you think supporting abortions and the alternate life style, and denying Prayer on school property (of which the gov should not permote or restrict) and the attempt to silence conservatives by calling it hate speech. Is that edifying? Such hypocrisy.
---wayne on 8/27/09


Yes, God put Obama in that postion to wreak havac upon a once "christian" nation.

---Steveng on 8/26/09


Mmmm ok... God being who he is, why would he put Obama in this position "to wreak havac (sic)," Why not just send some plagues...

You are putting to much into Obama..
---NurseRobert on 8/26/09


false. People today simply want to dis leaders, especially if they are prejudice against the leader for having darker skin. I have heard the insolence and contemptuous railings of the white press and the rackings of so-called christians against the good man, that's right "GOOD MAN Barak Obama", and these foul-mouthed imposter christians will indeed give an account of their malignities they have spouted publicly. The President should not have to spend his time defending his position which he has rightly been appointed to by the people. He came into the office which had exorbitant debts and tremendous mess, and he is doing his best to clean it up. Help him! Support him! Pray for him! And stop bad-mouthing him.
---Eloy on 8/27/09


\\
The people of the United States have turned their backs on God. Yes, God put Obama in that postion to wreak havac upon a once "christian" nation. \\

Where did you get the idea that the USA was ever a Christian nation?

The Treaty of Tripoli, which is the law of the USA says in so many words that the United States is in no way founded on the Christian religion.

OTOH, Imperial Russia WAS officially a Christian nation.
---Cluny on 8/26/09


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Lawrence: "Pres. Obama is there under the direction of God to Fulfill Bible prophecy. If he gets out of line, Obama will be replaced, taken off of the Pres-seat replaced by another to carry on God's Plan."

The people of the United States have turned their backs on God. Yes, God put Obama in that postion to wreak havac upon a once "christian" nation. This is only the beginning of troubles. God has the power to build nations and to detroy them.

On the lighter side, be glad these events are happening so that Jesus is soon to return.
---Steveng on 8/26/09


This statement is TRUE. Obama is from the bloodline of Satan (Cain, Ishmail, Esau), and his main goal is to destroy America, and create one world government.
---Leslie on 8/26/09

And where are you getting this from??? Your tin hat is slipping.
---NurseRobert on 8/26/09


Oh, Leslie!
---Mary on 8/26/09


I do not know. Why don't you ask him yourself? Send a letter to the White House and ask him what he thinks about these issues, and share your concerns with him. Also, share your concerns with your senators and representatives in Washington.

I do know that this question is definitely divisive and not edifying to the Body of Christ. Shame on you, Mima.
---Trish9863 on 8/26/09


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\\Pres. Obama is there under the direction of God to Fulfill Bible prophecy. If he gets out of line, Obama will be replaced, taken off of the Pres-seat replaced by another to carry on God's Plan.
---Lawrence on 8/26/09\\

And where did you get the idea that the President of the USA has any prophetic significance?

\\Obama is from the bloodline of Satan (Cain, Ishmail, Esau), and his main goal is to destroy America, and create one world government.
---Leslie on 8/26/09\\

Since Satan is NOT a corporeal biological entity, he can have no DNA, and hence no "bloodline."
---Cluny on 8/26/09


the same thing could been said about most amercan presidents. or it was freemasonry or it was another secret oorganisation. so do not fear
---andy3996 on 8/26/09


This statement is TRUE. Obama is from the bloodline of Satan (Cain, Ishmail, Esau), and his main goal is to destroy America, and create one world government.
---Leslie on 8/26/09


Tell me Mima... just how is this question supposed to edify the Christian community? Or did you ask it just to cause strife on the board again?

I usually say there are no dumb questions, but this one makes me rethink that idea.
---NurseRobert on 8/26/09


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Pres. Obama is there under the direction of God to Fulfill Bible prophecy. If he gets out of line, Obama will be replaced, taken off of the Pres-seat replaced by another to carry on God's Plan.
---Lawrence on 8/26/09


Isaiah says Lucifer is "you who weakened the nations!" (in Isaiah 14:12) So, could his "plan" be to keep the nations weak? "Where do wars and fights come from among you? Do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members? (James 4:1) *Pleasure* is the reason guiding any "plan". But is our pleasure seeking of Satan > Jesus says, "the desires of your father you want to do." (in John 8:44). I offer > his evil vile lousy spirit (Ephesians 2:2) is joy-dead (depressed), nasty, bored, lonely, etc. so he drives through people to get and feel pleasure to try to feel something nice of God's creation. We should not piggy-back on his problem.
---Bill_bila5659 on 8/26/09


"YOUR" statement is both aggresively subtle & misleadingly false Mima. Shame on you!
---Leon on 8/26/09


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