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Senator Ted Kennedy Died

How to you feel about Senator Ted Kennedy dying today?

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Donna, Im impressed...

good answer..
---NurseRobert on 9/5/09


Sometimes, it seems those who make the loudest pious noises, are also those who spew the most hateful verbiage.

Please, it is always needful to be respectful, kind and compassionate!
---Janze on 9/5/09


Donna: But, in reality, we do have a system of checks and balances in that, we elect congress every two years, and the senate every six years, with the president every four years. IF a member of congress is doing something the people do not want, they can vote him/her out, same for the senate and the president. We, in Pennsylvania, voted out a very conservative senator during the Bush years.
---Trish9863 on 9/5/09


NurseRobert--
Honestly,I probably wouldn't think of it then! Just like democrats don't think of it now.

NOR did I expect Teddy K to do anything differently than he did.
AND No, we didn't do well when the Republicans were in control!

I just wanted to make a NONpartisan comment (for a change) that what is BEST for the country is probably NOT to have any one party too dominant. Checks and balances are the genius of our system. There have been many times we could have gone way off the track without that balance.
---Donna66 on 9/4/09


Yes, that IS the heart of PARTY politics (both parties). But actually, don't you agree that what's best for the country to have checks and balances, by a mix of viewpoints in the House and the Senate?
---Donna66 on 9/4/09

Would you say the same thing if the republicans ran the show?
---NurseRobert on 9/4/09




Evil man. Evil leader. UnGODly. Yet admired and missed by many. hmmm.


Psalm 2
1Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

4He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.

5Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
---Trav on 9/4/09


I found this....
The truth is, the priest told the Boston TV station WCVB, he expressed to his family that he did want to go. He did want to go to heaven. He was ready to go. There was a certain amount of peace, actuallyin the family get-together last night. I couldnt help but think that the world doesnt know that part of Kennedy at all.

As with many in their painful last days they seek the Lord. I pray, as the thief on the cross, that Ted accepted or renewed his relationship with the Lord before his departure.
If the Lord can call David, an adulterer and murderer, a man after his own heart there is room for the rest of us including Senator Kennedy.
---larry on 9/4/09


Trish -
>>>>to ensure the Majority in the Senate, is what is best for the country. That is the heart of party politics.<<<<
---Trish9863 on 9/1/09
Yes, that IS the heart of PARTY politics (both parties). But actually, don't you agree that what's best for the country to have checks and balances, by a mix of viewpoints in the House and the Senate?
---Donna66 on 9/4/09


"Yeah, she may be admired, even by God, but not ADMITTED!"
---Elder on 9/1/09

Will you be collecting admission tickets?
---Nana on 9/2/09


Trish you explained the problem when you said, "a Democrat would only believe that another Democrat, to ensure the Majority in the Senate, is what is best for the country."
You'd never convince the Regan Democrats of that.
Ted's influence on the Mass. legislature was like turning a knob to get the candy. This was proven at Chapaquitic and with the judge who recessed the case against him. It was never reconvened.
We now have many democrats connected to Socialism/Communism. Is that what you want, a communist country? If you say yes you need to go to some of the places I went to so you could have freedom to make that statement.
When Americans wake up and stop voting party then things will change for the better.
---Elder on 9/2/09




Elder: I understand what you are saying. However, Teddy did not get the appointment accomplished by himself. He had no authority to do that. It happened through the Mass. legislature. The Mass. voters put them there. If they have an issue with this, they can vote them out. That, and the idea that a Democrat would want a Republican to replace him.

As for what is best for the country, a Democrat would only believe that another Democrat, to ensure the Majority in the Senate, is what is best for the country. That is the heart of party politics.
---Trish9863 on 9/1/09


Trish, Teddy Bear set the policy back when he had a Democrat appointed. Now when there was a possibility of a Republican being appointed he wanted to change the policy again.
It is not a problem with a party member wanting "same ol' same'o." That is probably natural and goes with the program.
The problem is your use of the word "absurd" and politicians being willing to do what is best for the "party" and not the country.
You do know that it was a politician that allowed Jesus, the innocent man, to be subjected to state capital punishment. You gotta be careful when you want everything for yourself, especially when you already have 176 million dollars plus. At least Oprah gives away deodorant.
---Elder on 9/1/09


Cluny, if you or anyone else thinks you get a chance or second chance to accept Christ when you see God face to face have got a surprise coming.
If any of the people, Teresa or the Pope, thinks you get "Saved" by being good have a surprise also.
Your doctrine does tell of your position in Christ and where you will spend eternity.

"Mother Thersa was not perfect. She did more than any of us have done. For THAT she is to be admired, not because of unwavering faith." Donna66
Yeah, she may be admired, even by God, but not ADMITTED!
---Elder on 9/1/09


"Mother Teresa: Naturally, if they want peace, if they want joy, let them find Jesus. If people become better Hindus, better Moslems, better Buddhists by our acts of love, then there is something else growing there. They come closer and closer to God. When they come closer, they have to choose."

This is an excerpt of one of the last interviews with Mother Teresa conducted by Edward W. Desmond in 1989 for Time magazine.
---SusieB on 9/1/09


\\"If in coming face to face with God we accept Him in our lives, then we are converting. We become a better Hindu, a better Muslim, a better Catholic, a better whatever we are. ... What God is in your mind you must accept" (from Mother Teresa: Her People and Her Work, by Desmond Doig
---mima on 9/1/09\\

I notice you did NOT give the rest of what she said, which was, "But sooner or later everyone will have to decide what to do about Jesus Christ" (or words to that effect).

In any case, what does Mother Teresa have to do with the death of Ted Kennedy?
---Cluny on 9/1/09


"If in coming face to face with God we accept Him in our lives, then we are converting. We become a better Hindu, a better Muslim, a better Catholic, a better whatever we are. ... What God is in your mind you must accept" (from Mother Teresa: Her People and Her Work, by Desmond Doig
---mima on 9/1/09


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Donna, my point exactly. Scripture declares that "Everything good comes from above" and the work she did came because of God. She might have thought it came from her for her salvation but it came from God. God used her and many others in history who give up their own lives to helping others. And since God is in control of all things she was but an instrument He used to help so many.
concerning her wavering faith I suppose we can leave that to God. I am sure that works never saved anyone, and that when we stand before God all we carry that is of any value is the righeousness of Christ, because only His works mean anything to God. They were perfect works.
---MarkV. on 9/1/09


Alan of UK---. On this, I personally agree with you.
Mother Thersa was not perfect. She did more than any of us have done. For THAT she is to be admired, not because of unwavering faith.
---Donna66 on 8/31/09


//Mother Theresa wrote an autobiograhy in which she expressed doubt, even in the very existance of God.

Mother Theresa also felt that the church would provide for her salvation ever if such was needed and based upon the merit of her good works.

In Roman Catholicism you have that ancient Bank of Merit containing all the good deeds of the saints that can be tapped into by the church to provide for the most despicable member of the Roman Church.
---lee on 8/31/09


Donna ... I don't think you can have true Faith unless you have had doubts
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/31/09


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Mother Theresa wrote an autobiograhy in which she expressed doubt, even in the very existance of God. It apparently was a great stuggle for her, though she continued to devote herself to service. There was never an indication that she resolved these doubts. It's hard to interpret what that means, however, since many Christians have moments of doubt(even though few admit it).
---Donna66 on 8/31/09


I lost all respect for this man when I learned of Chappaquiddick.

I am sad to say everything he did later in life was tainted by what happened that fateful day in 1969.

He should never have been elected to any office because he should have been charged and convicted of a felony, such as vehicular homicide, manslaughter, etc.

Another case of misjustince for the parents and family of Mary Jo Kopechne.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/31/09


He left a messed up nation. This country can no longer expect God's protection upon it. Because the wicked man has more freedoms than God's people. This nation is a sitting duck. Get your eyes of the terrorist, and get them on God. God can destroy this nation. Fear God instead of man. Put no confidence in your home-land security.
---catherine on 8/31/09


Elder: My point was that it would only make sense that Teddy would try to replace himself with a Democrat, just as a Republican would try to replace himself with a Republican. Teddy was part of the Senate majority, and he would not want to have that majority jeopardized.

How Massachusetts goes about replacing him is now moot, as he did not succeed in having someone appointed.
---Trish9863 on 8/31/09


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NurseRobert...Funny thing about living a long time. You remember things. Like for instance the fact that EVERY time I saw Mother Teresa on the television she was talking about Jesus and the fact that what she did was for Jesus. I never heard her say that there was any other way to get to Heaven. Maybe Mima can tell us where we can find the video of that interview.
---SusieB on 8/31/09


I feel a lot better about Ted's death than he does.
"Wayne: Would a Democrat, in his right mind, try to get a Republican appointed to replace him? Your answer borders on the absurd."
Trish
Now, Trish, is this about political parties or what is best for the public? This one way party view is more absurd. This problem exists on both sides of the fence.
Though the candidate may bring Hell on earth some will still vote for them if they are of their party choice. It is proven over and over. Here it is again with purity.
---Elder on 8/30/09


Mima, my answer was not to show that I only care about Christians or none Christians. It was to show that I would feel more for them then Kennedy who I believe did a lot against Christianity on and off the office. I don't know who is save, that is for God to decide. I do know Mother Theresa had the heart that God would want many to have. To sacrifice our lives for others. That is true love. That is the love she had for mankind. I have heard many great man say things that are wrong. One case I can speak of are those who believe that man has power over God. They control even their own salvation. Just think of how many of those we have here on line. Do you think they are save? Something to think about.
---MarkV. on 8/30/09


//I do not believe that Mother Teresa went to heaven.

Golly, if Mother Teresa and maybe now Ted Kennedy did not go to heaven, then how could we expect our prayers to them to be answered? LOL

Frankly, do we have any rights at all to say who has or who will go to heaven? We may not like some for their viewpoints, but are we not usurping that Authority who will judge both the living and the dead?
---lee on 8/30/09


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I do not believe that Mother Teresa went to heaven. I base this on an interview she had with John Mac Arthur in which she stated that Jesus was not the only way to heaven.

---mima on 8/29/09

Tell us Mima... Did you know Mother Theresa personally? Are you personally aware of her walk with God? Did Mother Theresa say that she doesn't believe in Jesus?

You are making a lot of assumptions that you cannot make and make you look foolish..
---NurseRobert on 8/29/09


---MarkV- I do not believe that Mother Teresa went to heaven. I base this on an interview she had with John Mac Arthur in which she stated that Jesus was not the only way to heaven.
Great works, wonderful person, a thousand times better person than I am, very devout, but none of the preceding qualifies a person for heaven.
---mima on 8/29/09


Trish...The original law which Ted Kennedy was instrumental in getting passed was for a special election to fill the position of John Kerry when he was running for president. Ted Kennedy wanted it changed to an appointed position to avoid the possibility that a Republican might win the seat in the special election after his death because of the turmoil in the economy. Sounds like manipulation to me. I believe that anytime someone dies while in office there should be a special election to fill that position. This way the voters get to decide who they want to represent them.
---SusieB on 8/29/09


"You're fooling nobody"-Larry

That's good, I wasn't trying to fool anybody.
---ralph7477 on 8/28/09


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What's the big problem with who replaces Kennedy? It's a TEMPORARY appointment to be filled by someone who will NOT run for office. It won't change anything. There are many more important concerns at this time.
---Donna66 on 8/28/09


Ralph, to thine own self be true. You're fooling nobody. If Kennedy had recommended a republican for the seat you still wouldn't have anything edifying to say about him.
You don't have to justify or create a reason to be negative about the senator....just be negative. Don't try to give it any virtue by tying negativity to reason-negativity is not reasonable or virtous. Partisan politics is Satanic by definition because its devisive and never edifying, so spare us the facade to justify your disdain.
Why not say I hope the Senator came to the realization and accepted Jesus Christ before his departure and leave it at that?
---larry on 8/28/09


SusieB: What Kennedy was doing was NOT manipulation, but working within the confines of the laws. Laws get changed. Since Kennedy was not in the state government of Massachusetts, he could do little but talk. The Massachusetts lawmakers are the ones who would change any laws, if they saw fit.

I agree with NurseRobert. A Democrat should be replaced by a Democrat, etc.
---Trish9863 on 8/28/09


Kennedy was actually trying to change a law which he himself helped put on the books when he wanted his way. When that law had the wrong affect other than what he wanted, he tried to change it again. Political manipulation as usual.
---SusieB on 8/28/09


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I was sadden by this death. It is the end of a man who has done so much to help so many others, and neglect his own pers'l life for so long. May he rest in peace, and my prayers to his family who has endure so much.
---BB on 8/28/09


Wayne: Would a Democrat, in his right mind, try to get a Republican appointed to replace him? Your answer borders on the absurd.
---Trish9863 on 8/27/09

Not really, Trish..

"In a statement released Monday, New Hampshires Democratic Governor John Lynch all but promised to replace Republican Judd Gregg with another Republican in the very likely event that President Obama names the New Hampshire senator to lead the Commerce Department." CNN, Feb 2009

If he was Democrat, he should be replaced with a Democrat, if he was Republican, replace him with a Republican. The people decided who they wanted, keep it that way
---NurseRoibert on 8/28/09


The point that Wayne is making is that Teddy had no respect for the law and instead made a mockery of the process for pure political motives.

Massachusetts law originally replaced vacant Senate seats through an appointment by the Governor. When John Kerry was running for President, Kennedy was afraid that if Kerry won, his seat would be filled by then Republican Governor Mitt Romney. So Kennedy pushed for the Massachusetts legislature to change the law so that a special election would be used to fill the vacancy. The Democrat legislature did change the law. Now that there is a Democrat governor, Kennedy wanted the law changed back to what it was before.
A real class act.
---ralph7477 on 8/28/09


Wayne: So what. If it passed, great for him. He was not trying to break any laws.
---Trish9863 on 8/27/09


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ralph---
Like you, There is nothing about Teddy Kennedy that I respect, But I have lost a father and also a brother, so I have sympathy for the family and hate to see his faults paraded again upon his death.

I also don't like seeing people manipulated in their sadness for political purposes --- "Kennedy would want you to vote for this or that". "Win one for Teddy".
---Donna66 on 8/27/09


trish, I would hope you keep up with the news. what I understand senator Kenneday was trying to do was pass a special piece of legistation that would somehow speed up the process of replaceing him, whatever that was.
---wayne on 8/27/09


Wayne: Would a Democrat, in his right mind, try to get a Republican appointed to replace him? Your answer borders on the absurd.
---Trish9863 on 8/27/09


I take no joy nor remorse in his death. He has gone to his reward and he will reap what he has sown.
One of the last things he tried to get done was to inact a law to get him replaced with another democrat ASAP so his agenda could be carried on. What a shame that was.
---wayne on 8/27/09


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My position is identical to Mark V.

I know a guy who said, "Love him or hate him you have to respect him." To which I responded, "I do?"
---ralph7477 on 8/27/09


Alan, to be honest with you I did not feel a thing. I was never impressed with any of his works in office or his works outside of office. His view many times went against Christianity. So to me he was just another person who died just like everyone else who is dying who opposed many Christian values. If it was Mother Theresa, Billy Graham, or missionaries who put their lives on the line for Christ that have died in Mexico and other countries, those I feel for. But know they will be with the Lord.
---MarkV. on 8/27/09


How are we supposed to feel, Alan?

Do some people think "real Christians" should be turning cartwheels or something?

All we can do is hope and pray that God will show him at least as much mercy as we want for ourselves.
---Cluny on 8/26/09


Sen Kennedy lived a long life. Marked by many ups and down but overall blessed. His politics were his own. As a sick and frail human being ,he has been released from his pain and suffering. Cancer is a devastating and horrific illnes to deal with. I am sure. He has to die as all of us will,one day. May God comfort his family, at this time, and have mercy on his soul. I hope he had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. The Kennedy family has done much good for this country,as a whole. May he RIP and receive much rest for the work he has done.
---Robyn on 8/26/09


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I remember JFK and Jackie and the whole Kennedy dynasty. They were plagued by scandals and premature deaths, but they set the style of the day and were idolized by many. They left an indelible mark on this country. Teddy's passing marks the end of an era.
---Donna66 on 8/26/09


Even though I did not agree with his stand on issues in the government I am saddened to hear of his death. I hope that he asked for salvation before it happened. I pray for his family that they will have peace and comfort in this difficult time.
---colupy on 8/26/09


May he finally rest in peace.
---AlwaysOn on 8/26/09


I am sad about his death, and send my condolences to his family..
---NurseRobert on 8/26/09


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I just hurt for his family. No matter his politics, he had a family--one that's already been through so much pain.
---Mary on 8/26/09


How do I feel about Ted Kennedy dying today? He was loved by many and also hated by as many. He probably got more hate mail than all the other senators combined.

Some of his beliefs were good (healthcare), others would have harmed the rights of individuals such as being an advocate of strict gun control, denying us the protection we need provide for ourselves.

In any case, hopefully he is in good hands now.
---lee on 8/26/09


He was another that is associated to the leaders of our country. We are to pray for the leaders of our country that Fulfills God's Plan. If he did or not, God only knows. There's No such a thing as christian politicians, Why ?, this makes them vulnberable to Ratt God's people for their own gain. Most these kind of people that are rich & have need of nothing, even God. It's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for rich people to go to heaven.
---Lawrence on 8/26/09


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