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President Obama Great Delusion

After more study about President Obama this question raises its head. Is it possible that the election of President Obama was the great delusion from God? This man's name and his background place this question in play.

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Mugwump,If God runs the show, then why try and fight for change in this country or any other?? I believe Satan runs the show on this earth at this time. God will have His way in His time.
To say hitler or obama is in power because God wants it, is not for us to say. Mankinds sinfulness or righteousness votes men into power. Its a battle between good and evil.
---calhoon on 9/14/09


Calhoon, Jesus told Pilate that God placed him in his position of authority. And Ephesians 1:11 says God is running the whole show. So I assume that Hitler was in power in Germany in accord to God's will.
---mugwump on 9/13/09


No, the elected President is no great delusion. Quite the contrary, President Barack Obama is a Great Reality. Give honor where honor is due, and those who disagree with his reform to help the unfortunate can be the first ones to give back their stimulus money given by him to help you. And if you do not like this government that much- then Move.
---Eloy on 9/13/09


Did God place Hitler over Germany?
---calhoon on 9/13/09


I wonder if obama is the anti-christ too there certainly is a strong spirit of delusion that .thessolonians talks of. present in the world today. fortunatly i believe in the preceeding rapture yaaa
---jerry on 9/13/09




"The fact God placed him there does not necessarily mean that he['s] there for our benefit." Mima, 9/11

God's correction is always beneficial to souls who subsequently repent/change their wicked ways while they yet have breath in their body. God's will be done in all people, places & things!!! (Ps. 23, 1 Cor. 11:31-32, Ro. 8:28)
---Leon on 9/13/09


Looks like someone has an inordinate need for attention.
---ralph7477 on 9/13/09


\\Cluny -- some people think Obama is the BEAST. He has some followers that call him the "Messiah" and some who seem to worhip him with religious-like ferver.
---Donna66 on 9/12/09\\

That's a favorite interpretation of a lot of people here, but only God can see the heart and know what these people are really doing.

As I have said before, Obama has neither enough spiritual significance or even spiritual oomph to be Antichrist.
---Cluny on 9/13/09


"...the tongue is a little member [body part], and boasts great things [talks big]. Look, how great a matter [forest] a little fire inflames [burns down]!

...the tongue is a fire, a world of unrighteousness: so is the tongue among our members [body parts], that it defiles [seduces, leads astray] the whole body, and sets on fire the course [direction, way] of nature*, and it is set on fire of hell." Jas. 3:5-6



*1 Cor. 2:14-16
---Leon on 9/12/09


Cluny -- some people think Obama is the BEAST. He has some followers that call him the "Messiah" and some who seem to worhip him with religious-like ferver.
---Donna66 on 9/12/09




They said the same about Roosevelt, and the nation survived. Christ's kingdom is not of this world. We don't need to worry about politics if we have Jesus.
---mugwump on 9/12/09


Where were you when the Dems Congressmen called Pres. Bush a liar - repeatedly?
---jerry6593 on 9/12/09

No where in any national speech did ANY democrat interrupt Bush to call him liar.

Where is your proof? Come on, prove me wrong.

Furthermore, Wilson was, is and always will be wrong. Try reading HR3200 before you comment on it.
---NurseRobert on 9/12/09


Bush fils cynically manipulated the religious convictions of a conservative Bible-believing Christians to get into office.

The Bible indicates that this is how the Antichrist will obtain power.

If you liked Bush, you'll LOVE the Beast.
---Cluny on 9/12/09


Joe Wison's only mistake was yelling out. Congress is not the British House of Commons where that is customary. Obama gave a very partisan speech...even calling others "liars" in his speech.Wilson has apologized to the President which is only proper.

But I don't think he owes Congress an apology unless Dodd, Reid, Pelosi et al. apoligize for their repeated inflammatory remarks about Pres. Bush. They wrote the book on disrespect.
---Donna66 on 9/12/09


George W. Bush lied 231 times about Weapons of Mass Destruction, and no Democratic member of Congress ever showed him or his office disrespect by yelling out at him during a speech. Those are just a few of his lies. There were plenty more where they came from.
---Trish9863 on 9/12/09


\\ I do not see how Congress who makes the laws of the land and don't even do what is right themselves can have the audacity to be telling a dog what to do let along other humans....And this is Bible. \\

Book, chapter, and verse, catherine.
---Cluny on 9/12/09


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I do not see how Congress who makes the laws of the land and don't even do what is right themselves can have the audacity to be telling a dog what to do let along other humans....And this is Bible. The president Obama is not thinking aright and will not do right by the people, either....And YOU voted him in! Shame on you...We should all be obeying God's laws, unless you do, you have no right to be telling others what to do....A six year old can get this, can you? I wonder if Christinet has courage enough to publish this.
---catherine on 9/12/09


H.G. Wells the writer, called America "the great experiment" because of the liberties and freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution. If you believe in free speech you understand Joe Wilson had every right to speak what he wants to. Do you believe in total complete competition? If you do you'll starve to death because many cultures can undercut the Americans. Many immigrants to this country lived in the back of their shop and ate what was left on other people's plates. Also let us remember we live in the most wonderful nation that ever existed because someone told the King of England(go to hell)we will not be taxed without representation.
---mima on 9/12/09


"A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult." - Proverbs 12:16

It looks like Joe Wilson is the fool, while Obama proved to be the prudent man.
---Trish9863 on 9/12/09


"Is it possible that the election of President Obama was the great delusion from God?" No.

The strong delusion the Father sends has nothing to do with election of the President of the U.S. or of any other human.
---joseph on 9/12/09


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Nurse: "Where were you during the republican administrations. Were you so vocal then?"

Where were you when the Dems Congressmen called Pres. Bush a liar - repeatedly? Do you think that was also boorish? The man lied and he got called on it. Why is that fact not discussed? I only wish that more Republicans had the guts to speak out against the Obama Cult.
---jerry6593 on 9/12/09


This Joe Wilson business seems like a lot of false "outrage".

He was simply following the instructions of the President who said he wanted people to "argue" and "get in the face" of people who were trying to "mislead" others. Those instructions must have only applied to his supporters.

Nancy Pelosi said that she is a "fan of disruptors". Again, must have only applied to liberal disruptors.

President Bush was booed and jeered during one of his State of the Union addresses where he predicted Social Security going bankrupt if nothing was done. And that statement couldn't have been more true. So outbursts are only wrong when the "wrong" people do them.
---ralph7477 on 9/12/09


Joe Wilson was not out of line. It's about time somebody stood up and called BHO what he is, a lair. I get so sick of people pandering to that thug and his cronies.
---wayne on 9/11/09

Of course he was out of line. Boorish behavior should never be accepted.

You may or may not like the man, but the position of President of the United States deserves respect..

As far as thugs and cronies. Where were you during the republican administrations. Were you so vocal then? I think not.
---NurseRobert on 9/11/09


Joe Wilson is totally entitled to his opinion, albeit misguided by the lobbyists from the insurance companies. BUT, he was out of line for being rude and disruptive on the floor of the House of Representatives in the middle of the President's speech. Freedom of speech is not without responsibility. If he is going to defend the Constitution of the United States, as he is sworn to do, he also must be a role model for his constituents and the children of this country, in expressing his dislike of the President using the proper means of communication. Heckling a nationally televised speech to our nation's leaders is totally immature and shows a lack of self-discipline. Something I do not allow my 7th graders to do.
---Trish9863 on 9/11/09


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Joe Wilson was not out of line. It's about time somebody stood up and called BHO what he is, a lair. I get so sick of people pandering to that thug and his cronies.
---wayne on 9/11/09


\\ We gave away our birth right, now we will see what will happen.
---calhoon on 9/11/09\\

What "birth right" did he give away?

Please be specific: what and when and to whom?

What "birth rights" do we still have?

BTW--Obama is NOT a Mohametan.

Were he, he would not have been shown on the national media drinking beer, nor would he be supporting abortion.
---Cluny on 9/11/09


I realize God placed President Obama where he is today. I know this because the Bible clearly says so. The fact that God placed him there does not necessarily mean that he there for our benefit. I believe President Obama is the hammer of judgment falling on this country!!!
---mima on 9/11/09


larry--The more "Christ-like" Obama angrily called others "liars" in his level-headed
not-so-low-key speech.

Joe Wilson was way out of line for the way he erupted. Obama was out of line for "name calling" in an important televised address.
---Donna66 on 9/11/09


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We gave away our birth right, now we will see what will happen.
---calhoon on 9/11/09


No, No, No, NO sir!!!! this man was appointed by God and we will see.
---J_Harris on 9/11/09


Too big NurseRobert? Sorry if it irritates you.

:)

I'm just trying to help those bloggers who are "delusional & obviously blind to the truth".

Think of it as an attention getter though it seems very few CN bloggers actually pay much attention to God's word anymore. Like the children of Israel, they whine/complain against God's purpose & delegated authority (Ps. 75:6-7) in the wilderness. Round 'n' round & round they go. Yap, yap, yap, yap!!! It's enough to make you want to strike a rock...

Mima's blog clearly shows the contentious, scornful & strife breeding Dathans & Abirams are yet with us in 2009! The "real question" is should we follow their perilous lead or God's word?
---Leon on 9/11/09


metuschelah --I was responding to the statement Lawrance made:

"No matter the background of the President elected, God put him on the throne to Fulfill Bible prophecy."

I wasn't saying Obama isn't a great man. He has accomplished a lot. But he doesn't sit on a "throne" and I don't believe he should be thought of as KING, because his role is as president is quite different from that of a king.
---Donna66 on 9/10/09


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\\Christ has no interest and will not bless political ideology of any type. \\

Amen!

As He Himself, said, "My Kingdom is NOT of this world."
---Cluny on 9/10/09


The irony of irony. Today we have news of two family-value conseravtives Michael Duvall and Joe Wilson who thoroughly embarassed themselves and any other person who continues to have faith in men. Obama, who they have made out to be Belzebub in a $700 suit, was the one who appeared most Christ-like with his public low key level-headed forgiveness of Wilson's "liar" heckle.
Folks, Obama maybe a nice guy and Wilson may be a card carrying conservative but nothing in their political portfolio is worth hanging your hat on. Christ has no interest and will not bless political ideology of any type.
We've already addressed the absurdity of the blog question not because of ideology but because the assumption has no basis in fact.
---larry on 9/10/09


Ralph: Bush's fruit? Not really.
---Trish9863 on 9/10/09


Leon, are you afraid your posts will not be seen?
---NurseRobert on 9/10/09


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\\ YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK>>>everyone is in a turmoil. Some don't care and some do!
---catherine on 9/10/09\\

You're right for once, catherine. I don't care what you think.
---Cluny on 9/10/09


Anyone here that thinks obama is a dictator/false prophet or anything except the President Of the United States, I suggest that you READ your BIBLE because this idea of an actual person controling the events surrounding the coming of christ, are delusional, your all blind to the truth. Don't let these conservatives mock the bible by casting rocks at anyone by using the word of god. He is no different than any other president before him, I think that the only reason people are reacting the way that they are towards OBAMA is because he is BLACK-- all I have to say is, calm down.
---metuschelah on 9/10/09


------He is there to serve the people, which makes him much different from a king.(Donna66)

Not sure what your trying to say by this comment here but incase your saying what I think your saying...here is what God said (Like 22:26)"But ye [shall] not [be] so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger, and he that is chief, as he that doth serve." To reach the position he did seems to me to make him great among men.
---metuschelah on 9/10/09


YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK>>>everyone is in a turmoil. Some don't care and some do!
---catherine on 9/10/09


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"Cast out the scorner (mocker), and contention will go out, yes, strife and reproach will end."



Proverbs 22:10
---Leon on 9/10/09


\\"Obama is a dictator", God told me so.\\

No, He didn't.

The very fact that you don't acknowledge my Godly admonitions to you as coming from the Lord just prove my point.
---Cluny on 9/10/09


Mimi, to this I say hogwash.

The way you worded your post, instead of wording it generically, was a direct, personal attack on Obama. You cloak "prominent questions" in a personal assault.

I agree, deep discussions can be contentious, but YOUR choice of words leaves much to be desired.
---NurseRobert on 9/10/09


\\saying on tv that U.S.A. isn't a christian nation(I myself sense the U.S.A. is fading away fast)\\

catherine, according to the Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by the US Setate, and therefore law of the United States, "the government of the United States is by no means founded on the Christian religion."
---Cluny on 9/10/09


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"Be not deceived: evil communications (influences) corrupt good manners (moral character). Awake to righteousness, and sin not, for some have not the knowledge of God..."



1 Cor. 15:33-34
---Leon on 9/10/09


---NurseRobert earnest deep discussion always brings up contention and strife. All these things are residue or peripherial. My questions are not designed to bring up contention and strife but are hopefully designed to get us to think deeply about prominent questions.
---mima on 9/10/09


\\Satan, too, can place people in power.\\

How does this "revelation from God" square with what the Bible actually says, catherine?

Romans 13:1
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

(BTW--Have your walls been saved yet as a result of your preaching to them?)
---Cluny on 9/10/09


Well, this too I heard from God: "Why are people so willing to listen to false prophets over true prophet. "Obama is a dictator", God told me so. "And if that man gets elected"! God spoked these two things to me. The first after he was elected and the second before he was elected. God is no impostor....God has given man ample opportunuity to do something, solve problems without Him. But, all man has done is wreck everything in this world and nation....WALE UP! Without God's help, the living God's help, we are all doomed. Well, except for God's people. We do have heaven to look forward to...Man do not have all the answers. Actually, without God, man has no correct answers. HA!
---catherine on 9/10/09


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God didn't tell you this, catherine.

Barack Obama was on the national stage since at least 2004, when he addressed the Democratic Convention. Which meant he had to be well known before that.

Just one more proof that you're listening to an impostor.
---Cluny on 9/10/09


"Obama is showing love by trying to extend healthcare to all Americans"-Jenny

The issue isn't healthcare itself. The vast majority of people who need treatment receive it, whether they are insured or not. The issue is who is going to pay the bill. (greed?) If Obama was only seeking to insure those who truly needed it, that would be very simple to do. It could be done within a week with a ten page piece of legislation. No, the liberals want control over the entire system and everyone in it.

If my neighbor is hungry and I give him my loaf of bread, that is love and honorable. If I take a loaf of bread from you to give to him, it is neither love nor honorable. The latter is the way of Obama and the liberals.
---ralph7477 on 9/10/09


Trish, did you see any evidence of those fruits in former President Bush? He has also said he is a Christian.
---ralph7477 on 9/10/09


Maybe this admin and BHO is a reflection of our current status as christians. To proudly proclaim this country is no longer a country of just christians but many beliefs is maybe true. BHO says this with pride, as though we have finally arrived. But to say there are many ways to God, now we christians know better. How can you defend that statement. Would a real christian make that statement?
---wayne on 9/10/09


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cluny
Very much with All the presidents. God using the sinners & the unstable christians(one foot in trying to serve God & the other foot in serving the god of this world) & sure, some true christians also helped voted Obama in. My opinion & not judging, not bearing false witness against no one. I wonder how many christians are sorry for voting in Obama, Still, God used such.
I dont believe theres a such thing as a christian politician. Why?, politics are corrupted & this makes them vulnerable to Ratt God's people for their own gain.
---Lawrence on 9/10/09


By your fruits, they will know you as mine, Jesus said.

Obama is showing love by trying to extend healthcare to all Americans, while greed leads many of his opponents to disrupt discussion on how best to do that by shouting out at meetings.

Heal the sick, Jesus encourages. Obama is christlike, not a delusion.
---Jenny on 9/9/09


Lets do a little on this that I got today from God! This country elected a man whom we had never even heard anything about, or knew nothing about. And it is a BIG mistake for our nation....It was no delusion from God. Satan, too, can place people in power.
---catherine on 9/9/09


\\ God mostly used sinner people (even some worldly & unstable christians) to get Obama voted in.\\

Are you saying that stable Christians voted for Bush or McCain, and no "sinner people" voted for them?
---Cluny on 9/9/09


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Lawrence: Worldly or unstable Christians voted Obama in? Who appointed you judge? I know plenty of spirit filled, walking with Jesus Christians who voted for Obama, along with me. How dare you make such a critical judgement of your brothers and sisters in Christ? You are bearing false witness against us.
---Trish9863 on 9/9/09


donna66
Being the Presidents seat the same as a throne in like ruling the country, God limits him for what he's allowed to do. Looking on a few web-sites I read where Obama attended a catholic-school, gave contribution to ramadan, saying on tv that U.S.A. isn't a christian nation(I myself sense the U.S.A. is fading away fast), what else is he hiding. God mostly used sinner people (even some worldly & unstable christians) to get Obama voted in. There's more sinner people than there is christian people for votes to put Obama on the Pres-seat(throne). Yes we are to pray for our leaders & it's to Fulfill Bible prophecy.
---Lawrence on 9/9/09


Ralph: "God's Word says we are known by our fruits."

Galatians 5:22 and 23 tell us what the Fruit of the Spirit is. "22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."

I see plenty of evidence of these things in our president. I do not see it in some of the bloggers here who attack him.
---Trish9863 on 9/9/09


\\
HE'S NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN as The Constitution REQUIRES!\\

Citizenship can come through either parent. In the case of Obama, and, for that matter, Chester Arthur, it came through the mother.
---Cluny on 9/9/09


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HE'S NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN as The Constitution REQUIRES!
---YLBD on 9/9/09

Yes, YLDB (otherwise known as Dudley), He IS a natural born citizen. All the fake birth certificates the head birther, Orly Taitz, produces will not change that..

Its time for the birthers to find a new arguement.
---NurseRobert on 9/9/09


The state of Hawaii claims to have a record of his birth.
---Donna66 on 9/9/09


Nurse, even if I have told you that I am a Christian, you know very well that it doesn't make me one. It's very easy to say some words.

God's Word says we are known by our fruits. Cluny made a very definitive statement. I was simply wondering on what basis he made it. He has now admitted that he is taking the President's word for it. That's fine. I tend not to be so easily convinced by mere words. He also said he never bowed to the Saudi king. Uh huh.

Quite frankly it doesn't matter to me what he claims to be. What he does is much more important than what he says. Heck, most of the adulterers I know call themselves "christians".
---ralph7477 on 9/9/09


Obama said we know him by who he surrounds himself with.

Lets take a look at that,
Van Jones, Ayers, Rev. Wright(20yrs),
all of the tax evaders and God only knows what else IS about to come out.


As of today, September 4, 2009, this Affidavit has been filed with the United States District Court in Southern California ~ represented by Orly Taitz.

This is a legal affidavit that declares Lucas Smith to be of sound mind and judgment. Lucas can go to jail if he lied on this affidavit.

The document (Certified COPY of Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate) you see here, once it is validated by the court, is pretty much the proverbial smoking gun.


HE'S NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN as The Constitution REQUIRES!
---YLBD on 9/9/09


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People who believe there is many different ways to heaven are not Christian.
The Bible clearly states that there is only one way to heaven and that is through the Lord Jesus Christ!!!!
---mima on 9/9/09


What makes you a Christian, Ralph? Because you told us so??

Mima, what is it with you? You come on here, posting questions (with the blessing of the blog powers that be - otherwise known as moderators)that do nothing but stir up contention and strife.

I make it a point never to question anyone's Christianity, but in your case I have to make an exception.
---NurseRobert on 9/9/09


\\ "He is a Christian,..."
As confirmed by what evidence, other than him simply saying he is?
---ralph7477 on 9/9/09\\

He claims to be a Christian, and as God has not given me to look into his heart, I can do nothing but take his word for it.

Are you a Christian? If so, confirmed by what evidence, other than your simply saying you are?
---Cluny on 9/9/09


"He is a Christian,..."
As confirmed by what evidence, other than him simply saying he is?
---ralph7477 on 9/9/09


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"The heart of the righteous study to [get] an answer, but the mouth of the wicked pours out evil things."

Proverbs 15:28
---Leon on 9/9/09


\\Obama being non-christian, even though (his god allah is Man-made & devil in disguise),\\

Obama is not a Mahometan. He is a Christian, but just not a pop-evangelical.
---Cluny on 9/9/09


This question puzzles me. It asks if it's >>>possible that the election of President Obama was the great delusion from God?<<<<

1. The outcome of the election is not a delusion, it is a fact.

2. Our God is a God of all truth. Why would he seek to delude us? Or is the question, "was Obama deluded"? If he was deluded, the delusion could only come from the father of lies!

And what about his name and background "place this question in play"?
---Donna66 on 9/9/09


Lawrence -- Sorry to be "picky" about this, but Obama is not on a throne. He is not a king. (though he may be "deluded" to think he is). He is there to serve the people, which makes him much different from a king.
---Donna66 on 9/9/09


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Umm... doesn't the Bible tell us not to spread lies and rumors? Obama is not Muslim.

As much as I despise the thought of a man like Obama as leader of this country, you bring up a good point. God sets up rulers and tears them down.

Christians wake up and pray for this country. Throw off the slumber and the baggage of this world. In a nation like ours, a man like Obama would never have been elected if God's People were alive and well. We are sick and weak -- the downward spiral of America is simply one indicator of this truth.
---Michael on 9/9/09


No Not a great delusion from God. No matter the background of the President elected, God put him on the throne to Fulfill Bible prophecy. Obama being non-christian, even though (his god allah is Man-made & devil in disguise), even the other Man-made god's buddha, mohammed, the hindu's god's etc if were alive,they WIll & Would be subject under The Only True & Living God Jesus Christ, Again The Only & True Living God. If Pres Obama get's out of line & even tempts God Almighty, God WIll remove him & put another in his place for the furtherance of Bible prophecy.
---Lawrence on 9/9/09


No, it's not possible.

To think it is gives Obama too much spiritual significance.

Are you saying that you believe this nonsense about Jesus giving the name of the Antichrist through a novel interpretation of "I saw satan fall from heaven like lightning?"
---Cluny on 9/9/09


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