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Can Satan Do What He Wants

Since Satan is the prince of this world, can he do whatever he wants until Jesus returns?

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MarkV, you asked me to show you where you said what you claimed you never said. I showed you.

Rather that apologize as you should, you again make assaulting remarks.

Remember Markv, about workers of iniquity.

James says our tongues that bless and curse are a world of INIQUITY. James 2

Same word used by Jesus when he rebukes the workers of INIQUITY. Lawlessness! You are out of control!

Will the thread close because you lied? or because you call me names? or because your PRIDE will not acknowledge your own words?
---kathr4453 on 11/7/09


Kathr, you use to be a good person who cared about the Word of God. I remember you as a different blogger. Somewhere you just gave up. I am sorry I use so many names against you, but it seems that way to me. I use stalker, going banana's, crazy and other words at my sister, she use to stalk this guy for a long time and he didn't care for her. She was crazy in my eyes for doing what she did, but that didn't mean I didn't love her. It just meant she was nuts for doing what she did. In that same sense I used words on you. My love for you Alan and others never wavers. I know who I am in Christ.
---MarkV. on 11/7/09


Kathr, you are going bananas. This blog will close and I hope it closes with this response because you need to get right with God.
---MarkV. on 11/6/09


Again on that same blog:

When Paul was forbidden by the Spirit to preach the Gospel in the province of Asia, and was given the vision of a man in Europe calling across the waters, "Come over into Macedonia, and help us" one section of the world was sovereignly excluded, and another section was sovereignly given, the privileges of the Gospel.MarkV***

See how you twisted this to be God's sovereign will to EXCLUDE people. No such intentions were of God.

This is what I mean when you take something not having ALL the FACTS and build your Sovereignty unelect doctrine.

God would have closed any door Paul wanted to take regardless, because God wanted Paul in Troas at a specific time for a specific reason! LUKE!
---kathr4453 on 11/6/09


many reject Christs very own words and his warning that MANY would come in HIS NAME 2Corin 11:13-15, Rev 13:13-15...religious christianity believes there will be a great deceiver BEFORE Christ returns unable to see the deception began DURING the Apostles time 2Corin 11:4

The Father in Heaven allows men to be blinded to his Truth which makes it appear Satan can do whatever he wants but as a created being of God he and all creation ultimately obey Mark 1:27, 3:23-26
---Rhonda on 9/10/09


Rhonda , good. God sent His Son Jesus to DELIVER us out of this evil world into the Kingdom of His Dear Son.

This world and all attached to it is EVIL. Christians are no longer of this world. If they are they are not Christ's!!!
---kathr4453 on 11/6/09




MarkV, on "Change before Salvation" blog:

Kathr, as always to argue you take something again out of context. Paul was to go Macedonia with the gospel and because of that people in Asia did not receive the gospel, at that time when Paul was alive. It does not mean they haven't today. ...
---MarkV. on 10/30/09



OK MARKV!!! I don't lie MarkV. Because God brought Paul to Macedonia FIRST doesn't mean God didn't want anyone from Asia saved. Your mind twists things.

If Paul had wanted to go to India instead, the Holy Spirit would have hindered that too...because God wanted Luke with Paul, ...not to exclude anyone as you put it.

Others were in Asia...preaching the Gospel MarkV, not just Paul!
---kathr4453 on 11/6/09


Kathr, can you put down where I said that Paul never went to Asia? I know you cannot because I print everything I say. Your argument are meaningless. Just for arguing.
Where ever the gosple went, it went by they motivation of the Spirit to places it wants it to go. When missionaries go to other countries with the gospel it is because the Spirit is working in those missionaries lives. You never want to give the Credit to God for anything. You work hard in taking the glory from God and giving it to man. And in the process you err big time. You probably think you are hurting me, but you are hurting the cause of God.
---MarkV. on 11/6/09


***And that those in Mecedonia came to Christ because of the gospel going there first and not in Asia where no one heard the gospel for many years. That it was by orders of who? God. God is the Holy Spirit you know right?
---MarkV. on 11/5/09


No MarkV, that is not what you said originally. You said Paul NEVER went to Asia. Even adding other nonsense about Abraham's seed?? Your NON ELECT THEORY!! Only after I pointed out Paul in fact went to Asia, you have revised now stating many years later.

You said God's sovereign will did not bring the Gospel to Asia at all. I disputed you then as well.

Priscilla and Aquilla were already in Asia preaching the Gospel before Paul got there !!!
---kathr4453 on 11/6/09


Trav, Cornelius was not God's former wife, Israel.
So what tribe was Cornelius from?? Being a gentile.
---kathr4453 on 11/4/09
Gentile means "nation" or "ethnos". Losing your "Marriage" name you would revert to "no name" goyim O.T,(gentile).

Cornelius knew the O.T. describes GOD as "ho Theos" denoting the one true GOD. Term used by Israelites.
Cornelius in 10:28 described as being from another nation Allo-phulos means another of same kind/kindred tribe.
Do some original language digging. Cornelius "Devout",Feared GOD.

It's one more mark recognizing that he had a good report among the Judeans....when they were opposed too them.
---Trav on 11/6/09


Rod4Him,
I conclude with you.
1) "... , from one end of heaven to the other." Those are picked from heaven, not earth.
2) "... as the days of Noe...". "... they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away,..." "Then shall two be in the field, the one shall be taken, and the other left."
3) The "faithful", "wise servant", "the blessed", are contrasted with the wicked and evil servant. Some receive the 'rule of the house', the others will be "cut" and be appointed their portion with the hypocrites. (outside)
---Nana on 11/5/09




Mark, I looked into the words in the "greek."

You read too much meaning into a word.

Matt 4, "when the devil and "taken" Jesus up to the Holy City." That the same word.

John 18, "My peace I leave with you," same word as left.

Luke 17: (parallel passage to Matt 24),
Noah, floods came and destroyed the wicked.
Sodom, fire destroyed the wicked.
Remember Lot's wife.
verse 30: "It will be the same."

If you are right about a pretrib rapture, it's not in the Gospels.

Pretrib is based on a dispensational philosophy and is an assumption that is a conclusion to that thinking.
---Rod4Him on 11/5/09


Kathr you said,

"Eloy, MarkV,
Here's the problem, In the OT God was not FATHER, SON and Holy Spirit"


I first want to know who God was in the Old Testament. Can you please tell us and please don't keep us in suspense who this mysterious God was in the Old Testament?

You argument increase, now you say,
"God brought Paul in a direction GOD wanted for God's purpose..Luke"

Isn't that was I was saying? That Paul was sent by the Spirit to Mecedonia, instead of Asia? And that those in Mecedonia came to Christ because of the gospel going there first and not in Asia where no one heard the gospel for many years. That it was by orders of who? God. God is the Holy Spirit you know right?
---MarkV. on 11/5/09


Matthew 24, some take this to refer to a rapture where a better interpretation is that the ones taken will be the wicked.
---Rod4Him on 11/4/09

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.

Matt 24:40 does not say this. Look into the words, the Greek words, not the English.

The word "taken" in the Greek means to take from one's side, to take to one's bosom, to accept, to acknowledge. An intimate experience.

The word "left" means to shun, disregard, abandon, send away.

Why would Jesus take the wicked to His bosom and shun the righteous?

Rather, Jesus will take the righteous to His bosom and will abandon the wicked to the planet. Exactly what 1 Thes 4 says.

Your escatology is all backwards.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/5/09


MarkV, unfortunately YOU conclude what God never implied..only you using etra-biblical non-biblical conclusions to come up with what God never said or intended. You use this approach through out all your understanding thereby TWISTING truth to mean things never stated...but only in your own mind!

God brought Paul in a direction GOD wanted for God's purpose..Luke!


I read the Bible MarkV and told you the Truth, as we see not long after that Paul did go into Asia...Lydia was from Asia!

Obvoiusly you have never been led by the Holy Spirit who will close doors but opening others thereby we learn how to OBEYING God's will and leading in our life!!
---kathr4453 on 11/5/09


MarkV #2 please print

MarkV, here is how you seem to think.

Example: Your a traveling minister. You want to go to LA. God closes the door and sends you to NY. You conclude, "God doesn't want anyone in LA Saved". Your in NY and met your future wife. Rather than seeing what God wants and His Purpose in NY for you, you twist around and put the emphasis where it was never intended.

You use what God never said and build a doctrine never intended. God speaks of His Elect...and what is expected of them, His plan and Purpose OUR OBEDIENCE etc, BUT You conclude a whole strange doctrine about the UN-ELECT.

Cults do this to scripture.

Your arguments with others you base on non/extra biblical conclusions!
---kathr4453 on 11/5/09


I stand agreeing with Cluny's understanding.
---Nana on 11/5/09


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Matthew 24, some take this to refer to a rapture where a better interpretation is that the ones taken will be the wicked.

First, the temple will be destroyed (70CE).
Second, those who pay attention to signs of the time should flee to the mountains (66CE).
Third, those taken appear to be the wicked, not the righteous.

The pretrib belief is based on a concept of the separation of Israel and the church. If the pretrib is true, it would not be spoken of in the Gospels.

There's more than one interpretation of "end time" stuff.

Don't forget Matthew is teaching to be ready, to endure, and finally to be following Christ.
---Rod4Him on 11/4/09


Kathr, it is not my pride at all, it is what Scripture says. In your rush to condemn what I say you condemn the Words of God. If you had only read the Bible you would have known the Truth. How can I apologize for the Truth? The Truth is the Truth.
"Now when they had gone through Phrygia and the region of Galatia, they were forbidden by the Holy Spirit to preach the Word in Asia." Acts 16:6. The Word of the Lord.
And since the Macedonians received the gospel at that time, they had what Asia did not have. While those in Mecedonia were coming to Christ by faith in the Word, the one's in Asia were not. It was wasn't until years later that Paul was permitted to start Ephesus.
---MarkV. on 11/4/09


Kathr 2 continue: The gospel goes where God wants it to go. Has nothing whatsoever to do with free will. You can have all the free will you want to invent you have, but it will not get you saved if you don't hear the gospel, understand it, and believe it by faith in the works of Christ not in your works. You have to stop thinking you were the cause of your salvation and give the glory to God one of this days.
You should keep your mind on God and not on me, looking for loopholes. Then and only then will you find the Truth so that you can preach it to others and help them. Right now you are only feeding your ego.
---MarkV. on 11/4/09


Acts 13:46
....It was necessary that word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life lo,we turn to the Gentiles.
---kathr4453 on 11/4/09

Prophets do back you. Foolish.
Divorced houses/nations of Israel were AFAR off..divorced...goyim...having wall of separation between them and Judah.

Acts36Therefore let all house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 39For promise is unto YOU, and YOUR CHILDREN, and to all that are AFAR OFF, even AS MANY as LORD our God shall call.
Jeremiah 30:10..O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar,
---Trav on 11/4/09


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Yes he did send to all nations. To find that which was lost. His love. His former wife.
Cornelius,Roman Judean. So was Saul/Paul.

---Trav on 11/4/09

Trav, Cornelius was not God's former wife, Israel. AND Paul was a Roman citizen, a Jew from the tribe of Benjamin.**Phil 3 Because he was a roman Citizen he was beheaded rather than crucified when he was killed by the Romans!

So what tribe was Cornelius from?? Being a gentile.
---kathr4453 on 11/4/09


Trav, Jesus said to go into ALL Nations. ---kathr4453 on 11/4/09

Yes he did send to all nations. To find that which was lost. His love. His former wife.
Cornelius,Roman Judean. So was Saul/Paul.

Psalm 74:1
O God, why hast thou cast us off for ever? why doth thine anger smoke against the sheep of thy pasture?
Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
John 10:26
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
---Trav on 11/4/09


Trav, Jesus said to go into ALL Nations. Were you aware how Peter and Company reacted when they went to the very FIRST GENTILE Cornelius surprised Gentiles also receive the Holy Spirit WOW!?


Also read:

Acts 28:28
Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

Acts 13:46
Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life lo,we turn to the Gentiles.

Do you/MarkV ever read ACTS??? It's more than a charismatic experience,it's Church HISTORY with many facts that dispute false religious cults!
---kathr4453 on 11/4/09


Trav, do you think all the countries America, England , Wales etc is a lost tribe?

Paul was an Apostle to the GENTILES. Peter/James Apostles to the Jews. The beginning of Peter and James letter are addressed specifically to the 12 tribes,scattered! They went to the Lost sheep of Israel.

Paul makes no such addresses specifically to Israel.

Yes, there were Jews in these Church,both Jew and Gentile. But there is nosuch Tribe and the tribe of Galatia or Ephesus!

Rev 7:9
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands,
---kathr4453 on 11/4/09


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You will see, God did not limit Paul going to ASIA either.
Does that change your thinking about election? Or rather the unelect? ---kathr4453 on 11/3/09

Don't know why I bother...but perhaps someone will research the comments for gospel.

1.Asia...doesn't prove any point. They were to find the Lost Sheep of Israel. Try looking up sheep sometime.
2. You are completely opposite verbally/ written to All the prophets,Christ and the Apostles all of who are directed by GOD. Yet you do not take a rebuke. You should have fear...yet...
Isaiah 45:4
For Jacob my servant's sake, AND Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
---Trav on 11/4/09


Cluny, at the beginning of this blog on 9/10/09, you said, "We are living in the "thousand years" between Christ's first and second advents, while Satan is bound."
---Rod4Him on 11/3/09

Wow guys, Satan is currently bound?

Are you serious? How can you possibly believe this?

Does Matt. 24 say nothing to you? How can you not know that the buds are on the trees and that the season is near?

Read 2 Tim 3:1-5. It describes the heart of the people around us. And it says it will happen in the last days.

The time is short.

No one wants to be around when the anger of Satan is loosed on the earth.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/3/09


Cluny, at the beginning of this blog on 9/10/09, you said, "We are living in the "thousand years" between Christ's first and second advents, while Satan is bound."

I am curious. The "thousand years," do you interpret the time frame as a "long time?"

I agree with you in what I recall of your eschotology views. Also, I don't see a pretrib rapture. So I am curious of your view. I am not challenging your view. Many of these views are speculation anyway.
---Rod4Him on 11/3/09


MarkV, I see you didn't respond to my findings on Paul actually going to ASIA. I guess I can't be accused there of confusing the subject. However no one there saw an apology from you that you made a wrong statement.

That subject with this MarkV is your misguided understanding of election based on limited atonement. You will see, God did not limit Paul going to ASIA either.

Does that change your thinking about election? Or rather the unelect? Probably not!

MarkV, You're not able to THINK beyond what Calvin wrote, finding those who can confusing.

If you were WRONG in one area, is it possible you could be wrong in others?

You have heard me state many times what election is/and isn't.
---kathr4453 on 11/3/09


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Kathr, again you speak with four different topics as always to try to connect them to try and convince me you are correct. Nothing you say connects with each other. Again I mention this because it is your habit to try to convince people of something, throwing together four or five different topics and saying, this is what it means. When in fact nothing you said made that meaning. Jehovah Witnessess use that tactic so that you cannot pin them on one subject. Good try. Kathr, why don't you get yourself on the right track? You are just wasting time which is sin.
---MarkV. on 11/3/09


you didn't like me using "me" in my sentence and I don't know why.MarkV***

MarkV, My comparison between Calvinists/Arminians, everything you both dispute and will till the cows come home is taken out of context.

You both even have your own version of limited atonement. They limit to the day they got saved and before,not for all time.

You limit to only a select people,and not to ALL men everywhere, the Whole world.

THAT'S why you all will NEVER resolve these issues. Neither understand the Cross!

There is however another doctrine, Christ died for ALL, those who receive Jesus GIFT of Salvation are eternally saved, sanctified, Glorified, becoming His Elect Church, can never lose their salvation!
---kathr4453 on 11/2/09


Kathr, you didn't like me using "me" in my sentence and I don't know why. How can I know you were also in God's mind as one of the elect if I don't know if you are one of the elect? If you are then the "me" turns to "us" mode. I cannot speak for your name because I don't know your heart. What I do know is that Scripture says, the chosen one's are the elect. And the elect make up the body of Christ, the Church. It doesn't matter whether they came in the 11th hour or not. The Church will be without spot or wrinkle when the body is glorified after our physical death. I believe the one who doesn't understand is you.
---MarkV. on 11/2/09


Of coarse not MarkV, God KNOWS all things, the beginning and the end.

BUT you are in a me myself and I mode when reading scripture. The WE and US refer to the Church....not the individual.
Jesus is going to present to HIMSELF a Church without spot or wrinkle. If Miche,Anne ,you understood this (body truth) they would not be saying each one of us has to iron our ever spot an wrinkle to be perfectly presented. CHRIST is the one who will present to Himself a CHURCH...without spot or wrinkle regardless if one comes in at the 11th hour. You also must see this fact as well, or you will be arguing points no one will be edified by, going in circles.
---kathr4453 on 11/2/09


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Kathr, you again are speaking in riddles. When I stated I was chosen from the foundation of the world as one of the elect I was speaking for all who are saved and those who will come to Christ who are of the elect. Of course I was not around at that time physically, but God had me on His mind already. And all of the believers were chosen before the foundation of the world. God made the plan and finished it. He is outside of time. What's been written will come to pass. It is been revealed through history by His decrees in what man call time. God saw it all from the beginning. For He is the Alpha and the Omega. He never gains knowledge every time someone comes to Christ. He is Omniscient.
---MarkV. on 10/30/09


That He had chosen me from the foundation of the world.MarkV


The Bible says, He Chose us IN HIM...to be conformed to His Image. Big difference when you put the emphasis where it really belongs. Adding: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: The New Creation!


We also know CHOSEN means for service, as we know both these men were saved, but who did they think God was going to CHOOSE for the next Apostle? I believe He chose Paul.

Acts 1:24
And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,
---kathr4453 on 10/30/09


MarkV, notice in Ephesians 1 Paul says US and WE, speaking of the BODY of Christ. Speaking of the New Creatures and about the NEW Creation..Of which not only is Jesus Head of the New Creation, but that we are a New Creature/Creation in Christ. THIS God forknew BEFORE the fondation of the world. YOU were not around before teh foundation of the world. Jesus was Foreordained from BEFORE the foundation of the world 1st Peter 1:20 to be head of the NEW CREATION!!

Those who's names are written in the Lambs Book of Life is FROM the foundation of the world...not before...and teh Book started with Adam & Eve then Abel, you name was added teh day you received Jesus Christ...and NEW Names are added daily!
---kathr4453 on 10/29/09


MarkV, and he (satan was the ruler of YOUR darkness before you heard the Gospel. God did not, just out of nowhere tap you on the shoulder and say..you are my elect."


Thats right, God never tap me in the shoulder and told me I was one of the elect. I was lost. In my mind there was no such thing as God, or what elect meant. I didn't find out I was until He saved me and I studied. That He had chosen me from the foundation of the world. Only He knew, not even the people that brought the gospel to me knew, but they were moved by the Spirit to bring the gospel to me.
God makes sure that all of His elect get to hear the gospel, receive the gift of faith and rependence, and forgiveness through the Atonement of Jesus Christ. !
---MarkV. on 10/29/09


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For he is the father of those who are lost. He does not control the world, God does.
---MarkV. on 10/29/09

MarkV, and he (satan was the ruler of YOUR darkness before you heard the Gospel. God did not, just out of nowhere tap you on the shoulder and say..you are my elect. NO, SOMEONE who had the LIGHT of TRUTH and the POWER in them spoke HIS..GOD's TRUTHS to you. WE are the Light of this world MarkV!!!

The Kingdom of God is not in word BUT IN POWER!!!HIS POWER. The GOSPEL IS THAT POWER!

When John the Baptist said REPENT, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand,it was a call to all..He didn't secretly go around tapping this one or that one on the sholder saying...Hay, Your're it!!! But don't tell anyone else!
---kathr4453 on 10/29/09


Mark ... thank you for disfellowshipping me!

I would never do that to anyone, not even you, even though you continually defame me, & tell untruths about me.

I still like to think they are not lies, that you say those things because you have not properly read what I have said.

But the more you say, the more it seems that those untrutha are deliberate.

That would make them lies. I hope it is not intentional on your part, but even if it is, I still forgive yuo, and pray that God will forgive you too for your false witness.
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/29/09


Kathr, while trying to correct me when you responded to my answer of,
"The rest hear it but don't understand it because the Spirit does not bring light to those.
---MarkV. on 10/27/09


WRONG: You said,

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world (SATAN) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not.."

It is satan who blinds the minds of them which believe not and it is the Spirit who brings life and light to those He wants to understand, hear and see. Otherwise they stay blind.
Satan is ruler of the world, but only of the world of darkness. For he is the father of those who are lost. He does not control the world, God does.
---MarkV. on 10/29/09


Alan, I will not answer you anymore on any issues. Please reframe from asking me anything. If you want to post something to me go ahead, I will not answer you. I will erase you as my spiritual brother as if I never heard of you. Please just leave it alone. I never went around following you as you do. I left you alone but you just had to have an answer for everyone to hear you. You can take any stand you want or pick a side. You have a free choice. I choose not to respond to you anymore.
---MarkV. on 10/29/09


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If he could, I wouldn't be answering this blog question.
---Bob on 10/28/09


MarkV "You side with 1Ciff and Athiest when another brother or sister is trying to speak for the Bible"

That's either a deliberate total distortion of what I said, or proof that you did not read what I said, which was that I understood why they might think the way they did. I did nnot agree with what they said, nor indicate that I did. Your imagination!

To follow your attitude to those we disagree with, if a man who has stolen from me is fasely accused of murder, I should withold the evidence that would prove him innocent. And you would say I was justified in thus ending him to the gallows, because he had stolen from me.

Lies are NEVER justified, even in support of what we perceive to be a just cause
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/28/09


Alan, You could not leave it that God is in control of everything, you had to make your statement Just like 1Cliff and Athiest. When they speak against God and Scripture, Nothing was different, in fact you sounded like them,

So God could have sent Satan to tempt Jesus ... but did He? I think not, because had He done so, Jesus, being God, would have been the One who sent Satan, so it would have been Jesus tempting Himself."

you distorted the Word of God for your own glory. You introduced something that is heretical for the purpose of making a remark against me. You sounded just like them twisting the Word around to show others there is no God or no Truth. You play with His Word as if it was a game.
---MarkV. on 10/28/09


Mark ... Once more you lie

I do NOT question His Word ... I question your interpretation of it.

I have as much right to diasgree with yuor perception as you have to disagree with yuors.

I support we both have the right to condemn the other for his views. You use that right, I do not.

We both have the right to tell lies about the other? Do we?

I don't think we do, so I do not tell lies.

You clearly think you do have that right to tell lies, for yuo take it upon yourself to do it freely.
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/28/09


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Kathr, again you speak of four different topics when you say wrong to me. You cannot answer one thing correctly. That is how I knew Ralph was you. You put scriptures of different topics to make your argument which is really no argument at all. Just a lot of nonsense.
If you are going to correct me at least speak of the topic you are correcting me in. You just want to get your foot in the conversation saying no, or wrong to me. If you are going to talk theology talk clear.
---MarkV. on 10/28/09


wao...
can we just answer the blog question without taking things on a personal level?

the answer is satan does not have absolute power and works within limited power
---patie3447 on 10/28/09


The rest hear it but don't understand it because the Spirit does not bring light to those.
---MarkV. on 10/27/09


WRONG:

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world (SATAN) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, ......


2 Tim 1:10
...by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:


WE His Body are indwelt with the Holy Spirit PREACHING the GOSPEL bringing LIGHT to those satan has blinded.

If the Holy Spirit isn't bring light...then the one preaching the Gospel HAS NO LIGHT IN THEM!!! CALVINISM has NO LIGHT!. Is God using Calvinists to not bring light to those He doesn't want??
---kathr4453 on 10/28/09


Mark, on "Always Speak Up For God" blog, I have suggested why it is that you say untrue things about me, thinking they are true.

Please read it?

Remember what I say there ... The opposite of pitch black is blinding white. But there are many shades of grey (in America, I think you write "gray") between the two extremes, and also many other colours as well.

It's the same with viewpoints, both doctrinal, polictical and personal.

Although there are dog-lovers who hate cats, and vice versa, those aren't the only two attitudes that can be taken to those animals.

Similarly, God does not have to be either dictator or slave although extremists might say those are the only two options.
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/28/09


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Alan, again you are wrong. Instead of seeking the Truth of Scripture you question the Word of God which is already Truth. You side with 1Ciff and Athiest when another brother or sister is trying to speak for the Bible. You speculate about God to bring confusion to His Word. Just as you again did bringing Jesus and God to make your case. You don't seek what is Truth already, you question what is Truth already.
Maybe my interpretation is wrong, but I don't question what it says. I believe it even if I don't understand some part of it. I know God will bring light to that which I have trouble with. You have no right as a Christian to question His Word. You do that all the time like it was a game to you.
---MarkV. on 10/28/09


No, Mark, I do not question the Omnipotence of God. I question your interpretation of it. Omnipotent means "to have unlimited or very great power" (OED) Let's accept unlimited.

God then has the power to do whatever He likes. He could, if He wanted to, transport us all instantly to the Moon. Or if He so pleased, to save us all from Hell ... or none of us. Or turn satan into a jellyfish.

But He does not have to do all these things, and does not, even though He can.

So God could have sent Satan to tempt Jesus ... but did He? I think not, because had He done so, Jesus, being God, would have been the One who sent Satan, so it would have been Jesus tempting Himself.
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/27/09


Alan, with your answer, don't you see how you question the Omnipotence of God? His Supremecy? Why, just to make a remark against what I have stated do you need to strip Him of His deity? That is your mistake Alan. You are not speaking for God. Then when I say, you are suggesting this you say you never said that, but most of your answers question God, the Bible. Instead of seeking what is truth already in Scripture, you question the very word of God. You keep saying you never said this or that. Why don't you just make a remark at me about other things? Why does it has to be about God?
---MarkV. on 10/27/09


Satan is limited to what God & His children allows him to do.
---Adetunji on 10/26/09


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What do you think the Bible means in Rev. when it says that Satan is "bound"?
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Prophecy describes Satan bound during the millennium ...the Bible is 1/3 prophecy of which most of this has not been revealed ...this is why Gods prophets revealed prophecy yet did not understand what they were communicating - think Daniel

Satan is not bound today it is a future prophecy ...he is the prince and god of this world today who deceives the whole world ...if Satan is not god of this world than God would be the author of evil

Satan is a created being who rebelled and was cast down to earth ...when Christ RETURNS to earth to establish his Kingdom Satan will be bound
---Rhonda on 10/24/09


satan is that old serpent is trodden under the feet of christians and eating dirt until he is thrown into the lake of fire for his insane foolishness.
---Eloy on 10/24/09


Ken and Mark -- I hope a lot of people read what you have written. God and Satan were NEVER EQUAL in power.

The Enemy has his emissaries but, IMHO, much of their power over Christians is what we give him...1Jo 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
---Donna66 on 10/23/09


"No. God controls everything, including Satan"

Ah, so it was God who sent Satan to tempt Eve, and later, to tempt Jesus.

---alan8566_of_uk on 10/23/09


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Ken Rank, great answer brother, if only more understood what Omnipresence, Omnipotence, Omniscience meant. If they did, they would know not to give Satan more credit then he deserves. And Betty is also correct, God does control everything. While there is people who don't believe, people like Athiest, they are open to make any comments they want. They cannot help themselves, it is their nature. As I said before so many times, it's takes a supernatural work of the Holy Spirit to change his heart, fallen man cannot change their own hearts.
---MarkV. on 10/23/09


Oh my goodness sakes, NO, and I'm sure glad of it! Anyhow, he's a loser. God is a winner. Here, and forever more.
---catherine on 10/23/09


yes,he can continue to tempt,lie,deceive,prowl around as a lion consuming whom he will,or should I say those who allow him to.
---tom2 on 10/23/09


No. God controls everything, including Satan.
---Betty on 9/22/09


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Very true, Ken!
---Cluny on 9/15/09


We get the idea in the Christian world that satan is omnipresent... he is not. He can not make anyone do anything they don't willingly submit to, we are accountable for our OWN actions and words. Satan can't influence me here in Kentucky and Joe Smith in Washington at the same time, because, he is not omnipresent, he is not God! He is one being, a spirit, but not omnipotent, not omnipresent. He is not God's opposite, he is a CREATED being who chose to stand against God. He serves a purpose right now, but will ultimately be done away with at the appointed time. Satan has a beginning, and we know he has an end. God has neither.
---Ken_Rank on 9/15/09


'Satan' is the 'prince' of this world? I never heard that before...

'God' keeps 'Satan' on a short leash and only allows him to do so much? Considering th state of the world, that leash doesn't seem to short as ther is great pain and suffering throughout the world.

So is 'Satan' like "god's" dog and he only lets 'Satan' bite people so much?

Again, it doesn't seem your god is a nice man...
---atheist on 9/12/09


Good point, TheSeg.
---Cluny on 9/12/09


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You tell me!
Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Not a little, not some, not even a lot!
But all!

Isnt the word of truth wonderful?
And he blessed you too!
This is the good new!
---TheSeg on 9/11/09


\\ No he cant. God has him on a leash & God allows him to do so much.\\

What do you think the Bible means in Rev. when it says that Satan is "bound"?

It doesn't mean "rendered inoperative."

A dog on a leash is "bound", too. He's limited, but can still bite you if you get too close.
---Cluny on 9/11/09


No he cant. God has him on a leash & God allows him to do so much. If he was able to do what he wants, he would have taken Job's life even others.
He is a mocker. He can do just about eveything that God can do, But, he canNot read your mind, he can hear you talk
- whisper, read what you write & even read your actions. Even he has relig-org's churches.
---Lawrence on 9/11/09


If the answer was affirmative one would have to deny the power of God!!!
Satan is the prince(or God) of this world. But a Christian is not of this world!!!!
And it is within the prerogative of the Christian to pray and hold the bay the enemy because of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the Christian!!
---mima on 9/11/09


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When Christ returns and the 1000 year millennium begins Satan will be bound\\

There are no such things as a pre-trib rapture or an earthly millennium.

This is no more than a Kingdom of This World--and Jesus said this was not so.

Those looking for one want Christ to HUMILIATE Himself again, and leave the right hand of the Father.

To be ANYWHERE else after that is a comedown.
---Cluny on 9/10/09


When Christ returns and the 1000 year millennium begins Satan will be bound

Until then he is the god of this world, father of lies and deceives the whole world 2Corin 4:4, John 8:44, Rev 12:9

many reject Christs very own words and his warning that MANY would come in HIS NAME 2Corin 11:13-15, Rev 13:13-15...religious christianity believes there will be a great deceiver BEFORE Christ returns unable to see the deception began DURING the Apostles time 2Corin 11:4

The Father in Heaven allows men to be blinded to his Truth which makes it appear Satan can do whatever he wants but as a created being of God he and all creation ultimately obey Mark 1:27, 3:23-26
---Rhonda on 9/10/09


Someone just asked about the Gadarene swine.

I pointed out that the demons didn't even have power over pigs without God's permission.
---Cluny on 9/10/09


Satan may be "prince of this world", but his power is limited. Unlike God, he is not omniscient (all knowing) omnipotent (all powerful) nor omnipresent (able to be everywhere all the time).

He is cunning, a master of all things evil, but a being far inferior to God in both power and influence. He can move only as allowed by the Most High God.
---Donna66 on 9/10/09


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NO,satan cant do what he wants,never could.He is bound by Gods word.
---tom2 on 9/10/09


NO.
God's promise to never let us be tempted beyond a way out is an example.
Satan had to ask permission from God to strike Job is another example.

The most obvious answer to your question is your own faith. Do you really think Satan would allow praises to be lifted up to our Savior if he could stop it?
If Satan could do whatever he wanted he not only would have blocked Christ's resurrection he would have never tolerated the virgin birth.

Make no mistake he wants ALL souls lost.
---larry on 9/10/09


"Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you." (James 4:7) Satan is not doing what he wants, if he's fleeing from you, I would say. Paul says we "once walked according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience" (in Ephesians 2:2) > Satan's spirit "works", it says, in disobedient people > his evil spirit has emotions which are dominating and driving and dictatorial . . . working people to seek selfish pleasures, degrading people to be unforgiving and to argue and waste themselves. But Jesus in His love's emotions is "gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls." (in Matthew 11:29)
---Bill_bila5659 on 9/10/09


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