How Can God Forget
Me and my husband are confused about this. The Bible says that God knows everything. It also says that He forgets our sins and puts them as far as "the East is from the West." I'm glad it says this, but how can God forget, yet know everything?
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---amand6348 on 9/19/09
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He is Almighty, meaning he has all power to do whatsoever he chooses to do, that includes to remember and to forget, to hold accountable and to forgive. The nonrepented sins are remembered by God against them, and he will ot hold them guiltless who refuse to get right.
---Eloy on 10/14/09|
Isaiah 1:16-20: "Wash you, make you clean, put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes, cease to do evil, Learn to do well, seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow, though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it."
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---Nana on 10/14/09|
I think Betty is right.
I don't think God loses all memory of our sin ... He does remember it, and protects us against that sin in the future
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/13/09|
Hey, God is God if he says he forgets he forgets, don't keep asking for forgiveness when he has already forgiven you when you and your husband repent of things. Sometimes we won't forget because God doesn't want us to do that anymore, but just because you don't forget doesn't mean that he has not forgiven you.
---larry on 10/13/09|
amanda- He chooses not to think about it.
---Betty on 10/8/09|
Donna, you are correct. Most of the people I answer are not Catholic and they believe the same thing. After the reformation, protestant churches were mostly in agreement about salvation. But in the years that followed many went back to where they came from, the old traditional believes. Though their idea's might not fit the same as the RCC, the results are the same, salvation by works. Only riddled a bit different so as not to be compared to the RCC. They condemn the RCC but hold the same doctrine of salvation, finding different ways of getting human merits of works to accompany the Works of Christ. What Charles Spurgeon called "humanism." Before he died, the said the Church was becoming more carnal in theology and he was right.
---MarkV. on 9/28/09|
part of the issue is thinking as a human thinks.God ways,aka his thoughts,are beyond ours.when God says you are forgiven,you are.We have the memories of past transgresses either by our own actions,or the actions of others,whether good or bad,and though we might forgive we really dont forget.God is bound by his word that when we repent,accept christ he will forgive,and when God forgives the transgressions are gone,as though they were never done.Great if we to could do this,but sadly most of the time we dont,and sadly cant.
---tom2 on 9/27/09|
Markv -- Thanks for reminding me of that. I'm not always sure who I'm talking to. Some protestants also don't seem to know much about Grace, only the law.
---Donna66 on 9/26/09|
Eze 3:20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered, but his blood will I require at thine hand.
Eze 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
---jerry6593 on 9/26/09|
Donna, Catholic doctrine doesn't believe in the new birth. In fact they don't ever get lessons on it because if they did, they would understand what born again means. In their faith everyone is the same, they all eat Christ, they all get baptized, they all have to do works. They have purgatory especially for works. Hail Mary's and many Our fathers, for attrition as if saying those words really forgives their sins.
Ask any Catholic what born again means and they just don't know. They turn the passage of James into salvation by works, and no matter how much anyone explains to them the Truth they will believe what their Church teaches above what God says. The very reason they do not believe in the Bible been final authority.
---MarkV. on 9/26/09|
Nana, Patience wearing thin? Would I say I enjoy these blogs if it was?
The Holy Spirit does convict us of sin. But after a sin has been forgiven, removed as far as the east is from the west, SATAN CAN harass with memories of that sin.
It's TRUE...unless you believe that repentance is "Oops! sorry God", not a gut- wrenching agony over how we have displeased God. REAL repentance requires no reminders. Yet Satan would accuse us anew at every remembrance.
Phil 3:13.... I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
---Donna66 on 9/25/09|
Is 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow, though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.Is 43:25 even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.
Rom 4:7-8... Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.Hebrews 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Nana, have you received His FREE gift?
(all scripture KJV)
---Donna66 on 9/25/09|
Donna, as you can see by now that no matter how hard you work to put the Truth down, somehow the enemy works hard to destroy the truth. What you wrote on 9/22/09 was very good. Your explanation about God not remembering them anymore was great. It is as though He never knew them to begin with, because He has forgiven them. And it is true that Satan would want us to think God has not forgiven us, so that we can struggle in our faith, doubt the Word of God as Eve did when she was talking to the Serpent, "Did God really say?" but so sure is God's promise to forgive that we do not have to worry about them anymore. God's Word is Truth and His promises are everlasting.
---MarkV. on 9/25/09|
Is your patience wearing thin? "I've also learned from these blogs that whatever position I take, I'd better be able to defend it with scripture, because there will always be some who disagree. Again and again it sends me to the Word."
We should not tire as you well put it, must be ready always.
I gave three verses where it is not satan reminding anyone of their sins, therefore I said, "No Donna66, it is not satan that remind us of our sins."
Have you read Ezequiel 18? That is also the word of God by which we should also live, not just from wheat-thins.
---Nana on 9/24/09|
Nana -- Perhaps you misunderstood my post...or you think we should continue to ruminate about our sins that have been repented of and forgiven.
Forgiven is forgiven. Forgiven sins are effectively "forgotten" by God. If we repented of our sins, we need not doubt that God has forgiven them.
It is not GOD who continues to bring them to our minds, causing us to doubt God's forgiveness. SATAN is the "accuser of the brethren". He loves to torture people with repeated memories of the past.
---Donna66 on 9/23/09|
Simply put, when reading the bible, forget would be synonymous with forsake/abandon/leave/renounce. God doesn't have a memory loss, The passage merely says that God choses to forget/abandon our sins which we commit against him, psalms 103:12 "As far as the east is from the west, [so] far hath he removed our transgressions from us".
---metuschelah on 9/23/09|
"Satan may remind us of our sins and cause us to doubt God's forgiveness, ..."
Lamentations 3:40: "Let us search and try our ways, and turn again to the LORD."
Revelation 2:5: "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works, or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent."
Isaiah 28:15: "Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement, when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:"
No Donna66, it is not satan that remind us of our sins.
---Nana on 9/23/09|
Jer 31:34 ... for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
God, being omniscient (all knowing) doesn't literally forget anything.
But His forgiveness is so complete, so absolute, that it is the same as if He has forgotten. Once forgiven, HE never brings it up again. Satan may remind us of our sins and cause us to doubt God's forgiveness, but to God they are effectively forgotten.
---Donna66 on 9/22/09|
Now, I just studied this the other day, folks! God forgets means that He forgives....Pretty simple!
---catherine on 9/21/09|
Psalm 103:11: "For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him. As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our tansgressions from us. Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him."
Jesus said, Matthew 12:36: "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."
I gather that God forgives but he does not forget.
---Nana on 9/21/09|
To Whosoever Has An Ear To Hear?
Actually, Your statement is two verses from two separate Book of the Bible(Jer.31:34 & Psl.103:12), but to answer the Blog Question...
How can God "Remember our sins no more", yet know everything?
It's by the Omnipotence of His 'Faith' in His Spoken Word to not return to Him 'Void', but to accomplish what He please in order to Truly set us free from our sins.
The Strength of God's Faith enables Him to Realize & Create a whole new existence even AFTER existence already existed : as when He created the Sun for seasons & years in order to change the light 'Ruling' the Day, 4 Days after saying "Let There Be Light" and calling it Day(Gen.1:3,5,16 Jer.31:34-35).
---Shawn.M.T. on 9/21/09|
Once while witnessing to a teenage girl she asked this very question. To which I replied, God has divine forgeter. Immediately the spirit revealed to the young girl her freedom from her sins she became very happy hugged her mother's neck and began to dance and shout.
---mima on 9/21/09|
I'd say it means He won't remember our sins in a way that is against us. But it can be good to remember our sins so we can remember where we came from, and how God has had mercy on us. And if I still have a sin problem, though I wish to be forgiven when I fail, I need to remember what I've done so I remember to watch myself better with God making this work. But if I get away from one way of sinning, I need to watch out that I don't just get into something else, but pray and seek to be with God in His peace with gentle and sure power to keep me. And it helps to remember my own failings, so I am humble not to be so criticizing of others *Hebrews 5:2*. So, there is good remembering (o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 9/20/09|
Amanda, human beings can only understand things put in human terms. God's "forgetting" is simply a metaphor for our encouragement, that he treats our forgiven sins as if they had never occurred. We humans can't get into the mind of God to learn all that he knows.
---mugwump on 9/20/09|
Thanks. Your responses really helped.
---amand6348 on 9/20/09|
In the UK, our law judges have to be very careful as to the facts they use.
It is common for a judge, when reference is made to (say) Michael Jackson, to say "Who is Michael Jackson?" even though he knows full weel who MJ is/was.
As far as his court of nlaw is concerned, MJ has to be explained so that the jury is in no doubt.
---alan8566_of_uk on 9/20/09|
In short, God chooses not to hold us accountable when we repent of our sin, have faith in Him by obeying His word & believe on His Son the Lord Jesus Christ for our salvation.
---Leon on 9/20/09|
God does not require two payments for any sin. And since the Lord Jesus Christ has already paid for our sins on the cross of Calvary those of us that receive him are free and will not have any sins put to our charge ever again!!!!!
Romans 4 7-8 states,
" 7-Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered."
"8"Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin."
As Christians it is very very important to us. Let us believe God!!!! When you do great piece will come in your heart.
---mima on 9/20/09|
Amanda, I personally think that the phrase, in Jeremiah 31:34, for example, "I will remember their sin no more..." according to my Strong's Concordance means to bring to rememberance, charge against, bring up, or mention. As you stated, God knows everything, but, when we repent and receive Jesus Christ He CHOOSES not to bring our sins against us again as they have been paid for already.
---tommy3007 on 9/20/09|
It means that as far as our guilt of committing "sin".....'FORGET ABOUT IT'.
On the cross, Jesus ABOLISHED the sin laws...
"abolishing in His flesh the law of commandments".
At the same time, He abolished the rules (ordinances) of worship (covered head, proper attire, etc.).
Now, we should...
"no longer have any consciosness of sin" (Hebrews 10:2).
SPIRITUALLY, "sin" no longer has any meaning to us (it's only now used as a figure of speech...a 'fashion sin', etc., we can only commit/avoid 'wrongdoing').
Live spiritually INside Jesus's body because we will be judged under the PERFECT law (James 1:25 and 2:12).
Verses from the RSV.
---more_excellent_way on 9/19/09|
"how can God forget, yet know everything?"
By choosing not to remember, recall or bring certain thoughts to mind.
Think about it, there are likely things that you yourself know but choose not to think about. If you do that long enough, eventually that thing becomes a part of your subconscious rather than your conscious thought and must be intentionally recalled to be remembered.
---Josef on 9/19/09|