Adetunji, I also agree with Aka,
" We can leave this matter as it is as I do not agree with you on this one.".
Bless me for not suggesting that "we agree to disagree." that would be terrible to say.
So I will say, "I'm am more then ok if you do not agree" Bless you for answering concerning the word of God.
And, phrase God, it does not effect our salvation whether Balaam was a false prophet or not.
---Mark_V. on 12/28/11|
We can leave this matter as it is as I do not agree with you on this one. ---Adetunji on 12/19/11
bless you for not saying, "let's just agree to disagree..."
---aka on 12/26/11|
Katherine, Obama being called Alpha and Omega "all over" the media? Where and when? I have my issues with the President but he's not prophesied on anything God related and the only reference to A & O in any media has been in relation to the international bank crisis.
Make your point without lying.
---larry on 12/25/11|
Adetunji, I'm sorry to say that God uses anyone He so desires to use. A false prophet would be nothing to Him, since He uses even the devil. He permits him to do things that later bring glory to God. Everyone He used were sinners. The false prophets were already false before God used them, and some remain the same, others He uses become save. Not Balaam. Have a wonderful Christmas and a safe New Year.
---Mark_V. on 12/23/11|
Mark_V: We are sure that God does not interact/deal with false prophets, conjurers & those that practice magic. God was with Balaam but Balaam did not know Israel. Instead of Balaam accepting God's instruction as final about not doing anything against Israel at that time, he taught Balak to cause Israel to sin so that God will be angry with them. This is what led to what you have in Numbers 25:1-3.
---Adetunji on 12/20/11|
Adetunji, I'm sorry you do not agree with me that Balaam was a false prophet. I don't know of any prophet of God leading Israel to apostasy, or for that matter practicing magic and divination to be a prophet of God. You can disagree, not a problem, and we can leave it at that. Thank you for your answers.
---Mark_V. on 12/20/11|
Mark_V: We can leave this matter as it is as I do not agree with you on this one.
---Adetunji on 12/19/11|
Adetunji, Balaam was a false prophet. He was on a mission. God stopped him and made him declare the truth. He was not a prophet of God. You can read about him all through Scripture to see what kind of person he was. He was not a child of God, and had no good intentions towards God. But like Paul God put the stops on him. Paul was a murderer of Christians. Balaam was not converted to God, but was made to do what God wanted him to do.
---Mark_V. on 12/16/11|
Mark_V: Evidence show Balaam was not a pagan prophet though Balak sent people with gifts of divination 22:7(similar to how Naman went to Elisha 2Kgs.5:5). It is customary to go with gifts to a Prophet in those days (even now). The end of Num.22:6 "..he whom thou blessed is blessed.." shows God had been with him before his introduction in Chapter 22. Verse 8 Balaam points to God as his source of prophecy.
---Adetunji on 12/16/11|
Adetunji, God did speak to him. Throughout these chapters Balaam himself used the name Lord, Israel's God (22:13,18,19:23:3,12: 24:13) and in (22:18) he even called the Lord "the Lord my God" In this verse it must be assumed that Balaam expected the God of Israel to speak to him. As a pagan prophet he anticipate making contact with the gods of the people. This story is long and a little hard to explain in such short space. God did give him permission go but could only speak the true word of God. God knew that his motives were not right. He was not been submissive to what He required from him. God opened his eyes to see the Angel of the Lord and allowed Balaam to see things as they really were.
---Mark_V. on 12/16/11|
Mark_V: Balaam started well because the Almighty God had a relationship with him and talks to him not by Balaam's divination(nobody can invoke God by divination). But Balaam derailed because of greed(enticement and gifts from Balak) to the extent of teaching Balak how he can make Israel to commit sin and offend God.
---Adetunji on 12/14/11|
Adetunji, you are right, Balaam was a prophet, but a false prophet. There is many false prophets today also, but this one was mentioned a lot. Balaam practiced magic and divination (24:1) and eventually led Israel into apostasy (31:16). Scripture identifies Balaam as a false prophet in (Deut. 23:3-6: Josh 13:22: 24:9,10: Neh. 13:1-3: Mic. 6:5: 2 Peter 2:15,16 and Jude 11).
---Mark_V. on 12/14/11|
Debra_Jones: //please show me in the Word where a gentile was a prophet?????//. Numbers 22 Balaam.
---Adetunji on 12/13/11|
If we are to go souly on the word of God.... please show me in the Word where a gentile was a prophet????? Only ones i have seen were Jewish! NUMBER ONE WAY TO TELL I WOULD SAY!
---Debra_Jones on 12/10/11|
A Prophet is not a soothsayer! He is an empty shell that God uses to speak to his people. Future prediction is a minor side of Prophesy.
In Hebrew translates as prophet is (navi), which means "spokesperson". This forms the second of the three letters of TaNaKh, derived from Torah, Nevi'im, Ketuvim. The meaning of navi is perhaps described in Deut: 18:18, where said, "I will put my words in his mouth and he will speak to them all that I command him." Thus, the navi was thought to be the "mouth" of God. The root nun-vet-alef ("navi") is based on the two-letter root nun-vet which denotes hollowness or openness, to receive transcendental wisdom, one must make oneself open.
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/7/09|
If you are looking for a prophet today then what else might you need to know: the hour that Jesus cometh? And now that the church has been founded, edified and now even abandoned, what then might you need to hear: we told you so? And if you could ask a prophet a question, might he just show you the Scriptures? What might Jesus say: "Are you still so dull"? If we show diligence in reading His word, obeying His commands and engaging Him in prayer then don't we acquire His very mind? Why the need for a prophet? Those who say they are Christians and look for prophets in these times are looking for something for themselves instead of Christ. The two prophets in the midst of Revelations are in a remarkable time wouldn't you say?
---John_II on 11/7/09|
I agree with Jake's answer on 9/28/09 but i'll like to add to it. Pls re-read Ex.7: 11-12, Pharaoh's sorcerers also did a similar thing cf the miracle God instructed Moses/Aaron to do. Therefore the "ability" to perform miracles is not always a sign of a prophet of God/Jesus/Holy Spirit.
---Adetunji on 10/2/09|
The answer is no!!!!
Jesus said that many will come to Me on that day and say they performed miracles in MY Name, and I will say I dont know you. - Matt 7:22 (partial) so how do you tell a true prophet, a man does not pick figs from thornbushes, therefore by their fruits you know them...(also Matt 7:16ish)
however a prophet, even OT prophets didnt perform miracles to prove themselves.
Miracles still happen everyday, we lack faith, thats why we dont see them, we want to test so we dont see them. If you are testing the spirits by their miracles, you are being mislead anyways.We need to remain deep in The Holy Spirit...amazing miracles will happen, doesnt mean you are a prophet!
---Jake on 9/28/09|
Rod4Him: "As far as miracles, as done in OT and NT, don't appear to happen today either. If miracles do happen, be careful, they are not proof in themselves."
Then you, too, will not recognize the two prophets mentioned in Revelation.
---Steveng on 9/28/09|
Prophet needs to be defined. Usually people think of an Old Testament type of prophet when thinking of prohets. There appears to be no OT type of prophets today, but if there are, whatever they forcast to happen has to happen, or they are false prophets.
Defining a prophet as someone who sees and speaks the truth, there are many prophets today. However, these prophets have no superior knowledge of God, they see truth as black and white. A person who prophecies also needs the body of Christ to challenge to keep him/her in the truth. The body of Christ needs "one another." As far as miracles, as done in OT and NT, don't appear to happen today either. If miracles do happen, be careful, they are not proof in themselves.
---Rod4Him on 9/28/09|
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I don't recall Obama ever saying he's a prophet, nor has he ever commanded people to obey, let alone worship him. On the other hand, George W. Bush several times said he based his policies (such as invading Iraq) because of what God told him to do. Also, early in his administration, after 9/11, the country was so polarized, any criticism of Bush or his administration or his policies was considered by many tantamount to treason.
While I don't believe Bush was the antichrist, "I have a divine mandate, and anyone who disobeys/disagrees with me is a traitor/criminal/heretic" has been used by many tyrants and false prophets in the past, and will most certainly be used by the antichrist when he finally arrives.
---StrongAxe on 9/28/09|
My suggestion as it relates to prophets is do not follow them.
Matt 24:4-5 "And Jesus answered and said to them, See to it that no one misleads you. For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many".
Matt 24:11 "Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many".
Which words do you want to follow, a prophet or Jesus?
John 14:21 "He who has my commandments and keep them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him, and manifest Myself to him".
Following Jesus is who we are!!!
---Mark_Eaton on 9/28/09|
No. There were some prophets in the Bible that did not perform miracles. Some of them translated dreams, fixed problems, etc. Most of them just told the near and/or far future events, how to circumvent or change it, etc. However, it would be more than helpful to find out how to test prophets to make sure they are truly God's followers, because in the last days - as it is now - there will be false prophets that will lead us to death. Obama's becoming one of those people. He's now being called the Alpha and the Omega (all over in the news!), and children in school are being told to sing hymns to him to the tune of "Jesus Loves The Little Children". No president in history has ever had this sort of reaction. Test everyone.
---Katherine on 9/28/09|
As far as I am aware, the definition of a prophet is "one who prophesies". I am not aware of any job description in the Bible that says that someone must prophesy any specific amount in order to be called a real prophet. Saul prophesied on only two occasions (1 Sam 10:11-12 and 19:20-24) and was called a prophet.
---StrongAxe on 9/27/09|
more_excellent_way: ""And I will grant my two witnesses power to prophesy..." (but only for a certain amount of time)."
Why do you add words to the event? Jesus was here for a certain amount of time. God granted all prophets to prophesy in His name. A person can't prophesy without permission from God unless, of course, he or she is a false prophet.
---Steveng on 9/25/09|
There definitely will be two...
They will be given PERMISSION to............PROPHESY (because they are not full time "prophets").
"And I will grant my two witnesses power to prophesy..." (but only for a certain amount of time).
Many people are too anxious to appear smart and highly accomplished scholars/prophets.
Attention to detail is in direct conflict with pride.
---more_excellent_way on 9/25/09|
Prophets are here, but are only tiny in numbers. Some gives out warnings, like Amos. Some can perform other tasks. One thing all true prophets has in common is their undieing devotion to the one true living God.
---catherine on 9/25/09|
I think we should invite Steveng to answer these questions, as he is the resident expert on prophets.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/25/09|
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Deuteronomy 13:1-5 > if a person "gives you a sign or wonder", but then says to "go after other gods", execute the person. These days, we have people who say to go after money and other gods, and they show signs and wonders. But x-rays can be switched, etc. People in wheelchairs are not necessarily totally crippled, but can walk but use chairs for support. So, there are "healings" that are not wonders, at all. Deuteronomy 18:20-22 > if one prophesies what does not come to pass, do not regard that person. Plenty of people apparently guaranteed there would be Y-2K, and said to lay up in store, which Jesus says *not* to do > Matthew 6:19-34.
---Bill_bila5659 on 9/25/09|
more_excellent_way: "Jesus told us .., we shall ALL prophesy."
In the end times very few are receiving prophesy, but few are listening.
MEW: "God no longer speaks to us by prophets,..."
You, therefore, will not recognize the two prophets mentioned in Revelation. Revelation 11:10
1 John 2:27
MEW: "you have no need that anyone should teach you".
He gave some, apostles, and some, prophets, and some, evangelists, and some, pastors and teachers to edify the church until Jesus returns. Ephesians 4:11
1 Corinthians 12:28
1 Corinthians 14:32
1 Corinthians 14:37
Ephesians 2:20 Jesus cannot be the cornerstone if he were taling about past prophets.
---Steveng on 9/24/09|
Furthermore, and let's reason this out, if there are false prophets then there must be true prophets. Why use false if there were also true? Jesus would have simply said that ALL prophets in the future are false, but he didn't.
---Steveng on 9/24/09|
If someone told me he was a prophet, I wouldn't believe him no matter what he did.
---mugwump on 9/24/09|
the only true prophet reiterates the word of god to an unsaved world if it's false doctrine it a false phrophet
---jerry on 9/24/09|
2thess 2:8-10 the sign of a false phrophet
---jerry on 9/24/09|
Jesus disapproved of a sign seeking generation.
A true prophet will in the beginning be attractive yet very distasteful to the masses.Like Jesus' teachings,many will follow and many will turn back for tradition. Christianity will become Old christianity in light of greater revelation.New wine will not be compatable to put in old wine skins.The old skin will burst.
This is based on sign seeking generation such as this one.As was the last one so is this one.
---earl on 9/24/09|
No. some false prophets can produce supernatural works also. Recall Moses' opponents, the Egyptians, in front of Pharoah.
---Eloy on 9/24/09|
Jesus told us that in the last days, we shall ALL prophesy.
God no longer speaks to us by prophets,...
"but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son...".
...but because of pride/ego, FEW PEOPLE CARE that JESUS is the only hero in devotion. Some want to pass themselves off as a "prophet, and some enjoy being a GREAT STUDENT of a "prophet" (all is vanity).
1 John 2:27
"you have no need that anyone should teach you".
Those who sincerely wish to "draw near" (with a "faith for faith", Romans 1:17, Hebrews 11:6,...love for God) will learn "the depths of God" (1 Corinthians 2:10) and will realize the "anointing".
---more_excellent_way on 9/24/09|
Not necessarily. False prophets will be able to perform very convincing miracles:
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
"For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect."
---StrongAxe on 9/24/09|
NO!!! Working miracles is not proof of being a prophet. Our proof can be found in Revelation 16:13-14,"13-And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14-For they are the spirits of devils, WORKING MIRACLES, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty
So obviously devils can work miracles.
Proof of a prophet is their prophecies are never wrong.
---mima on 9/24/09|
Well, one proof of a false prophet is when the prophecy doesn't come true.
Ellen Gould White (whose name adds up to 666) is an example.
---Cluny on 9/24/09|
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