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Is Remarriage Accepted By God

Does God accept divorce and remarriage as legal in His eyes? Whatever happen to the vowels that I took that said til death to you part?

Moderator - What happened Biblical to the person that committed adultery if you were a Jew? What was then the status of the remaining spouse?

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Dee -**I completely agree with Wal_Rev.

So you truly believe that if someone (believer or unbeliever) divorces and then re-marries those persons have sinned and there can be no forgiven thereon?

The church believes in forgiveness & restoration but apparently you do not.

And what if a couple that are divorced and re-married come to an evangelical meeting where they hear the Gospel for the first time and come to faith? Should they immediate leave their present mate and family and be rejoined to their orginal mates who may not be Christians at all? Should they be told they have sinned and are not welcome into the church?
---Lee1538 on 11/4/09


I completely agree with Wal_Rev.

Many people on here clearly give the Bible no authority, or give it authority only when it suit themselves.

This is why we have so many broken homes and broken people in the Western world today.

It is surely time to come back to God and His principles, not ours.
---Dee on 11/4/09


Anne -//Good observation Lee. Wal-rev can you please respond to Lee's post. Thank you.

I would be surprised if we see any kind of answer from wal-rev as these types seem to run away when they are faced with truth.

Christ came to save what was lost, not to condemn those that have suffered from their sins or worst, the sins of others.

Lu 19:10 For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.
---lee1538 on 10/30/09


Part 2 Westminster Confessions

VI. Although the corruption of man be such as is apt to study arguments unduly to put asunder those whom God has joined together in marriage: yet, nothing but adultery, or such wilful desertion as can no way be remedied by the Church, or civil magistrate, is cause sufficient of dissolving the bond of marriage:[14] wherein, a public and orderly course of proceeding is to be observed, and the persons concerned in it not left to their own wills, and discretion, in their own case.[15]


[11] Matthew 1:18
[12] Matthew 5:31
[13] Matthew 19:9
[14] Matthew 19:8
[15} Deut. 24:1
---Lee1538 on 10/28/09


Good observation Lee. Wal-rev can you please respond to Lee's post. Thank you.
---Anne on 10/27/09




Wal-rev, as I mentioned before the church as a whole has decided on the issue of divorce & re-marriage, so all you have is your own perferred interpretation of which you are entitled to.

For those churches that follow the Reformed tradition, Westminster Confessions, read Chapter XXIV

V. Adultery or fornication committed after a contract, being detected before marriage, gives just occasion to the innocent party to dissolve that contract.[11] In the case of adultery after marriage, it is lawful for the innocent party to sue out a divorce and, after the divorce,[12] to marry another, as if the offending party were dead.[13]

(continued)
---Lee1538 on 10/27/09


wal-rev, I am not sure how you view divorce & re-marriage in all cases.

Is there any allowance for forgiveness & restoration?

Say a couple that has been divorced and re-married but are not Christians but comes to faith in Christ say at a evangelical revival meeting. Will they be received into the fellowship of the Church or are they condemned as adulterers and cannot be received into the church? Will they have to go back to their former spouses who may not be Christians?

As you can see, the issue is more complex than it appears on the surface, and that is why Scripture must be interpreted with Scripture and with the view that the church has been given some authority to make decisions on these types of issues.
---Lee1538 on 10/27/09


Mich-I would say that the ex-husband has chosen to commit to a life of adultery and is in serious trouble. Likewise, the woman he re-married is an adulteress so there is nothing good or pure to that relationship. The adulteress is the opposite to the woman of god. Outside of god,there can be no love and, to love god is to obey his will where there is freedom from the bondages of sin. The bible says god will test the heart with fire, and with fire it will be tested. I think for the wife, she has suffered greatly. I think god will keep her close to his heart, comfort her and guide her life for his will, if she so asks. In that can be the greatest joy, without a man. The bible says God will judge the fornicators and adulterers of this world.
---wal_rev on 10/26/09


Okay Wal rev,
Answer this- What of the husband cheated then divorced his wife to marry the woman he cheated with?
Is the woman that was put away and divorced to remain unmarried even though she did nothing wrong?
Even if she tried to reconcile and he just wouldn't hear it.
Deuteronomy 24 says she can go and be another man's wife. WHY? Because she didn't do the divorcing, the man did.
---miche3754 on 10/26/09


I don't think we should make light of what wal-rev is saying because --- just look at this crazy mixed up world...does anyone think God loves this constant state of people divorcing and broken families?

I know God is exceedingly forgiving, but I believe we need to be ever so cautious and fearful of God when it comes to the subject of divorce. It at all possible, STAY married.
---Anne on 10/25/09




Anne, the following verse says nothing about the topic of remarriage. 1 Corinthians 7:15 15But if the unbeliever leaves, let him do so. A believing man or woman is not bound in such circumstances, God has called us to live in peace. God does not contradict himself and he does not make mistakes. Any woman who remarries while her husband is still alive is termed "the adulteress". Everything taught by god, jesus and the apostles supports this.

Premarital relations (fornication) and divorce and remarriage (adultery) have brought forth so much defilement, destruction chaos and pain to human lives- and often the ones who pay this price are the children. We are to die to sin , and live as christ specified.
---wal_rev on 10/25/09


Wal rev: Ya' know there are woman out there whom has had their spouse cheated on them. I am one of them. You cannot tell me, that me re-marring someone else is my fault, when he was unfaithful. I did not cheat on my spouse, he cheated on me. And yes I remarried and I'm glad that I did, cause I have two wonderful children. I think you need to re-read the bible. Just because there is a divorce that doesn't mean it is the woman's fault.
---Rebecca_D on 10/24/09


wal rev, I guess you are another that doesn' mot accept all scripture when it comes this matter.
You accept one gospel but not another?
That is wrong.
You should read Deuteronomy 24. Then go back and read all the gospels and what Paul has said and see if what you believe is the truth of What God is really saying.
---miche3754 on 10/24/09


Scripture reads, God hates divorce, just as he hates adultery. But sometimes divorce ( a forced divide) from an adulteress or from an adulterer is necessary in order to save the innocent spouse.
---Eloy on 10/24/09


Isn't it extraordinary how obsessed most Christians are with sex?

Sex is one of the strongest instincts in man, since on it depends the survival of the species.

Because of that instict, it is likely that there will be mistakes made.

Teaching to help us resist making those mistakes is therefore very important.

But to make sexual mistakes into the worst and most unforgiveable sin goes against Christ's teaching.

Why do we do it, why do we have this prurient & condemning fascination with other's sexual sins? Is that not a sin in itself?
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/24/09


wal rev~ Please read what Glenn wrote on 10/20. I believe what Glenn wrote is correct, but could you please share your thoughts on it as well. Thank you.

Also, God is a forgiving and merciful God. Let's say someone is an unsaved Christian and living in adultery because he married someone who is illigitimately divorced. This unsaved person later hears the message of salvation and repents and believes. However, he or she is living in adultery and cannot get out of it since he or she is married to that person. How can that person be assured of salvation?
---Anne on 10/23/09


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The only view point is christ's.
It is a wicked and adulterous generation.
JESUS SAID Mark 10: 11"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits ADULTERY." Romans 7:3 So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an ADULTERESS. 1 Corinthians 7:10 To the married I give this COMMAND (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be RECONCILED to her husband. 1 John 2:4 The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. The book of proverbs says it all.
---wal_rev on 10/23/09


By the way, during my 30+ years of marriage to a faithful wife, I have seen many different situations from people who have been divorced and re-married.

Some are clearly victims of their spouses unfaithfulness. To penalize the innocent victims is not the love that characterizes either God or His church.It is simply hate.

Others simply have acknowledged they were not Christians in the first place and should not be held accountable for sins they commit prior to becoming genuine
Christians.

And not a few have concluded that they simply married outside the will of God in the first place, have repented of their sin and have been restored to the fellowship of the Lord & His church.
---lee on 10/22/09


pat_miaoulis, while I understand your reasoning, most of us believe the Lord has given authority to His church to make decisions involving marriage, divorce, and re-marriage. I believe you can find the scripture as well as historical precedence that supports this viewpoint.

In our way of thinking, divorce by all definitions dissolves a marriage making the participants no longer married or having any obligation to their formal spouses.

And there are the Scripture that states if an unbeliever departs the believer is not under any obligation to the former mate. 1 Cor. 7:15

Further to demand that one leave a wife to rejoin a formal spouse may very well create victims out of children from the later marriage.
---lee on 10/22/09


//......find me one verse that says the quilty can ever remarry anyone.

Show me one verse in the Bible that states one cannot repent of his or her sins and not be allowed to be restored in his or her fellowship with the Lord and with His church.

Christ did not come to condemn the sinner but to restore him or her upon repentance of sin.

You are effectively making divorce & re-marriage on any grounds an unforgivable sin, it is not.

Perhaps you would like to see a woman who has needs for support and a father for her children to be without due to your theology.
---lee on 10/22/09


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lets say the innocent is free to remarry...find me one verse that says the quilty can ever remarry anyone..its not there..so if thise persons remarry they are living in sin and an adulturus lifestlye..adultry against who,..the first spouse...repent means to have a change of heart and mind..we are to flee from sin..so these folks can not stay in a marriage God calls adultry, no matter how it looks from there works...we arent saved by works..are they going to hell...christ is the judge not me or anyone else, but as belivers we must speak the truth and be sure noit to have fornicators,adultures,murderes in our conreations as memebers of the body, unless they repent and i feel confess there sins one to another[the one who they sinned against]..
---pat_miaoulis on 10/21/09


wal-rev, so you essentially believe that someone who divorces and/or re-marries cannot repent but is stuck in a state of sin from which he or she cannot be delivered from?

While you are entitled to your own opinion, it is doubtful that any minister of the gospel can agree with your position.

Unfortunately over half of the church today is divorced and re-married, so you say these people are in sin and cannot repent but will be condemned to eternal damnation?

Are you by chance a member of the older Worldwide Church of God or one of its offspring founded by Armstrong?
---lee on 10/21/09


God can not contradict himself. There is no blessing in sin, even though it appears to thrive.. it is in the absence of the holy spirit and the wages of SIN is death. Divorce and remarriage is not the lords will. Jesus, god and the apostles taught clearly.. any woman who divorces and remarries commits adultery. Adultery is an abomination and it defiles the sacred covenent. Corinthians teaches --do not be decieved, adulterers will NOT inherit the kingdom of god. Many scriptures suppor this. They may be in the churches, but it is not the hearers that are righteous, it is those that OBEY god.
---wal_rev on 10/20/09


I have seen God blessing some in the church that have been divorced & re-married. So what does that tell me?

Simply that divorce is a forgivable sin or that God is in the business of restoring fully those who have may have married outside the will of God in the first place.

In todays world, nearly half of the population is divorced and many of them are active in their church doing the Lord's will.

Usually those who forbid divorce & re-marriage are fearful that their own marriage may fail, or they simply need some carnal justification to stand in judgment on the spirituality of others. Even the Pharisees were obsessed with their own righteousness.
---lee on 10/20/09


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Jesus prohibited divorce except for adultery, that included lying about ones virginity. The non adulterer could remarry. The adulterer, and anyone marrying one, is entering a prohibited marriage. A divorce without cause, was no divorce, and so, another marriage was a type of bigamy. The exception is in 1Corinthians 7:15. If the unbeliever departs, the Christian can remarry because the marriage was not 'in the Lord'. Matthew 19:9, 1Corinthians 7:27-28 allow remarriage.
Deuteronomy 22:17-19, 28-29, 24:1-4, Proverbs 2:17 (forsaketh husband), Isaiah 54:4-8, Jeremiah 3:1, Malachi 2:14-16, Matthew 5:31-32, 19:3-12, Mark 10:2-12, Luke 16:18, 1Corinthians 6:15-16, 7:10-17, 27-28.
---Glenn on 10/20/09


Jesus gives reply to that very same question. He said that because of the hardness of your hearts, Moses gave a command of a writ of divorce. Jesus said from the beginning it was not so. So GOD's plan is not for divorce, but for man and woman to work it out through forgiveness. You may say I can't do that, but didn't Christ forgive us when he had no reason to. When we say we will not, we place ourselves higher than Christ. That is a dangerous place to be. Get truly honest with GOD and devoutly seek his face in this matter, you will see. In Malachi GOD said he hates divorce. Things he hates are sin.
---James on 10/19/09


God destinguishes between israel and gentiles. Why you don't is quite beyond me.
---miche3754 on 10/17/09
Have faith....but, not in falsehood.
You wrote the above. Personally I've come to terms with the above. Most cannot, so they skew scripture. Whole denom's in fact.

If I/U R or R not....GOD will still do as written. U/I/We BELIEVE, where Israel doesn't sometimes. A JUST GOD.
He will do Justly with ALL believers.
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all nations that are upon earth.

Matthew 20:15
Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
---Trav on 10/16/09
---Trav on 10/19/09


Trav,
God never says anything about color. Period.
ANd he says in the NT that he will graft the wild branch where the original is and Blind israel temporarily until the fulness of the Gentiles comes in.
God destinguishes between israel and gentiles. Why you don't is quite beyond me.
And God says that the two become one through Christ Jesus. So, you can ingnore scripture all you want. Right now you have a spirit of rebellion upon you that causes you to think God made color/racial lines when he didn't.
He opened the door to him for ALL through Christ Jesus.
By the way, if you are white, then to go by color/race, Israel certainly is not and has never been white. So, by YOUR definition you exclude yourself.
---miche3754 on 10/17/09


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That's your problem right there. If you weren't pressured, you wouldn't be prejudice. ---miche3754 on 10/16/09

I point that your eye may be evil because GODs is good.
U keep making the same loop here. Prejudiced means without basis. GOD found some "basis" himself, hunny. Let scripture tell it.
Deuteronomy 14:2
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all nations that are upon earth.
Matthew 20:15
Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
---Trav on 10/16/09


When GOD forgot it I did. He didn't.- Trav

Yep, God sure did. He sent Jesus to call all sinners to repentance. Sin has nothing to do with race. It is in all mankind.

"whether I like it, or it fits my idea of what he wants...." trav

That's your problem right there. If you weren't pressured, you wouldn't be prejudice. This is a form of hatred and God doesn't allow it. Jesus plainly said love your neighbor and he wasn't talking about just the one next to you or down street. He also said love your enemy too.
It is difficult to have Christ in you when you are carrying hatred like prejudice in you.
---miche3754 on 10/16/09


Trav, you should really forget the race thing because after Christ came,....Word says- "The veil was rent in twain" Matt 27:51
---miche3754 on 10/14/09

When GOD forgot it I did. He didn't. Scripture states there will be others.
I trust that he will do right...if I/we do.

Bending/twisting scripture is not righteous and dangerous. Better/easir to accept scripture. When I realized/accepted that GOD can do what he wants....whether I like it, or it fits my idea of what he wants....I was immediately unpressured. I am not jealous of Israel anymore...I rejoice that he loved a people enough to marry. It is our blessing he did.
---Trav on 10/16/09


Pat, that is not what God's word says.
Please do your research of ALL scripture before you come here and condemn innocent people.

Kath, I know he has something for me that is better than marriage. I already have that and it is salvation through Christ.
I want a husband for while I am here in this fleshly body.
Paul did state that to prevent the burning of desire and cause yourself to sin, it is better to marry.
God knows this in my heart. And he says that if I follow him he will give me the desires of my heart. I believe what God says.
---miche3754 on 10/15/09


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definre marriage..one man to one woman till death due us aprt..even if one leaves the marriage oneness can not be broken by some civil court..this is either one marries another is is called adultry..if adultry then the guilty party must flee from sin and not live in it to repent..words arent enough..the innocent must remain single no matter what..till death
---pat_miaoulis on 10/15/09


Yes ma'am! I sure am very single and celibate.
That is part of the reason God was able to draw me back to him.
I realized that a husband is given by God and that we women are to prepare ourselves then wait. It was a very hard lesson to learn and boy did I take a lot of wrong turns but now being back in God's will, yes I would like a husband and I wait patiently on the Lord.
---miche3754 on 10/14/0

Miche, I bet, if you wait, you may find out in the meantime what God has for you is something even better than a husband.
---kathr4453 on 10/14/09


Yes ma'am! I sure am very single and celibate.
That is part of the reason God was able to draw me back to him.
I realized that a husband is given by God and that we women are to prepare ourselves then wait. It was a very hard lesson to learn and boy did I take a lot of wrong turns but now being back in God's will, yes I would like a husband and I wait patiently on the Lord.
---miche3754 on 10/14/09


Miche, I can relate..totally! Do I understand you have not re-married? and are waiting for the Lord to bring you someone?





---kathr4453 on 10/14/09


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Yes Kath, that was created because of the hardness of the heart.
And that is what happened to me. My ex's heart was hard and no matter what I did, he didn't want me anymore. He even lied to me and took everything I had brought into our marriage. But that is okay, God is restoring everything back to me. And He will also give me a husband to replace the one that put me away for no reason other than he wanted someone else instead of me.
So, I wait patiently upon the Lord not like the first time when I had no knowledge of what I was doing.
---miche3754 on 10/13/09


All too often people including Christians marry outside the will of God. But is this often the ocassion for divorce?

I would say yes since the Christian could be unequally yoked with one following Christ, the other the father of all lies.

Perhaps it is God that permits divorce in the case of one being unequally yoked in order that the Christian (and perhaps the children) can grow in Christ.

As for the vows, perhaps they were not valid in the first place.
---lee on 10/10/09


Deut 24

Jesus said Moses allowed this because of the HARDNESS in their hearts....

May it never be said of us, God allowed divorce because of the hardness of our hearts.

However in these verses it was the Husband who found uncleanness in his wife he could send her packing. Maybe he was deceived by her not being a virgin, however, I don't think that's what it means, because then she would be stoned???

Maybe she just didn't like washing the dishes or making the bed??

But, when it came to woman upset because the bumb didn't put down the toilet seat or pick up his socks.....Oh Well, there were no equal rights!!.

Under GRACE the HEART of man/woman learns to LOVE through the fruit of the Spirit.
---kathr4453 on 10/9/09


I will agree with Kath on this though this does not make either one of us a Christian. It is good christian counsel, none the less. One might get a heb/greek lexicon for proper word meanings and translations. It has help me considerably seeing SOME words have such differnt meanings and can easily be taken out of context.
---steven-rem7000 on 10/9/09


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I think it is just common sense. If there is not going to remarriage...there is no need for a divorce. God didn't want divorce but gave it to Moses so people would not be stuck in limbo. Being married without any of the benefits or protections of marriage would be hell on earth and a waste. The only reason for a "writ of divorcement" was so that the unwanted person could be set free. And be free to move on with their life. What do you think?

PS How horrible that you didn't want the divorce and yet it happened anyway. I am so sorry.
---brenda on 10/8/09


"no where in scripture OT or NT, regardless of adultry, is one given clear direction that it is ok to remarry" Kath
Please read Deuteronomy chapter 24 the first few verses.
It God says that if a man divorces his wife, she may go and be another man's husband.

So, since it was not me that sinned and according to this word from God, I may be another man's wife.
I have done extensive research on this particular subject since I have been divorced for 14 years. Everything that I have said on this blog comes straight from God's word.
---miche3754 on 10/9/09


Part1
I'm tired of hearing that the physical Jewish person is who the old testament was talking to. Who is a jew, (Rom 2:29)"But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly, and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter, whose praise [is] not of men, but of God".---metuschelah on 9/29/09

I'm like you, I'm tired of hearing jew as being all Israel. It wasn't. In the new testament the house of Israel and Judah are seperated by divorce. And will be reunited by a New Covenant. Heb 8:8 and Revelations last chapter.
---Trav on 10/8/09


I kept my vows, It was my ex who didn't. And it was him who divorced me. I pleaded with him and he didn't care. His heart was hard.
Like I have said to you before, you are not LOOKING AT ALL SCRIPTURE!
---miche3754 on 10/6/09

Miche, Paul tells us that if an husband or wife chooses to leave we are to let them go.

However, no where in scripture OT or NT, regardless of adultry, is one given clear direction that it is ok to remarry, even if those were teh grounds. It states that we can divorce on those grounds...but it never says we can re-marry.

Grace does not mean we are FREE to do what we want, because we are now under Grace, and Jesus will forgive us anyway. That's why so many people attack GRACE.
---kathr4453 on 10/8/09


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Ecc 5:4 When thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it, for he hath no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed.
Ecc 5:5 Better is it that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay.
Ecc 5:6 Suffer not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin, neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy voice, and destroy the work of thine hands?
---steven-rem7000 on 10/4/09

I kept my vows, It was my ex who didn't. And it was him who divorced me. I pleaded with him and he didn't care. His heart was hard.
Like I have said to you before, you are not LOOKING AT ALL SCRIPTURE!
---miche3754 on 10/6/09


Steven,

Matt 5:32 says that divorce for fornication is allowed. I wasn't the one who filed for divorce, my ex did,So he could marry the woman he cheated on me with.
He divorced me for no reason but that. I tried several times to reconcile.
see 1 Cor. 7:15
It was not me that sinned. It was him.
So, Obviously you didn't read all of 1 Cor. 7. See v.11
But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
I didn't depart from him. He put me away and gave me a bill of divorcement(deut 24).

So, yes I am free to be another man's wife.
According to all of God's word not just the bits and pieces you like to quote.
---miche3754 on 10/5/09


mich your free? read all that in context you are free from that relationship, but only death dissolves it. You made a vow before God, now the reason David killed Uriah was because of that law? Then Namann the prophet, that God sent, went and told him what was up.

personlly I hope you could marry as may as you want till you find the right one. That just is not the case of the scriptures. It is a picture of God married to His people, He will never marry another.
---steven-rem7000 on 10/5/09


cut this one out too
Ecc 5:4 When thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it, for he hath no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed.
Ecc 5:5 Better is it that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay.
Ecc 5:6 Suffer not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin, neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy voice, and destroy the work of thine hands?
---steven-rem7000 on 10/4/09


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Ralph, Yes, I use the Bible - God's word for my whole life and any decision I have to make. I just went through a big mess with my daughter. We thought she was with child. Thank God she isn't. But I sought HIM for advice not others. I believe 100% hat it was a test of my faith for Him. I even tell her, though she has no fleshly father, GOD is her father.

Steven you are right that some ignore. I didn't. I went searching God's word. It says that since my ex divorced me even though I tried so hard to reconcile with him, that Im free. Incedentally, he also fathered a child from another woman while we were married, I still tried. God says Im not held accountable for what he did. If its his will, I can get married again.
---miche3754 on 10/4/09


God accepts people through Jesus Christ as they are. Jesus said, "Go and sin no more."
If a person is not a follower of Christ, it really doesn't matter what they do, although their life on earth will become more challenging through their actions.
If a person is in Christ, divorce and remarriage is not an option Biblically.
However, God accepts people in whatever condition they are in when they confess their sins and yield to Christ. Their life in Christ or out of Christ will still become more complicated because of going their own way.
However, God is in the business of healing people's lives inspite of the messes they make of them.
---Rod4Him on 10/3/09


Yes Mich we do interpet Scripture with Scripture line upon line, precept upon preceptIsa28:13

Under the New Testament this letter was written to a New Testament Church in Corinth it is binding for todays saints. Paul was probably ask about those verses you brought up and he goes on and explians how it (marriage, divorce and remarriage) is under the new covenant. If you want to live under the Old Testament Laws by all means one would have to start scrafices again also. The problem with this subject is people in these situation will find someway to get around it as most denomonations or professing christians
---steven-rem7000 on 10/3/09


"You can't cherry pick. You have to consider the Entire WORD of GOD when talking about marriage/divorce/remarriage."

Miche, is marriage/divorce/remarriage the only area of life where a Christian should consider the entire Word of God, or should we consider the entire Word of God for all areas of life? Just curious.
---ralph7477 on 10/3/09


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Steven,

I liked your last post. BUT-
What I am wondering is why you aren't considering the entire WORD on the matter?
You can't cherry pick. You have to consider the Entire WORD of GOD when talking about marriage/divorce/remarriage.
Why did you ignore the scripture I posted but up hold the rest of scripture?
You should not do that.
---miche3754 on 10/3/09


Our relationship with the Lord is not brought about by seeking a formula we ask others to give concerning our life in any way.

This is not a question that anyone should be asking or answering except the Lord Himself while you get on your knees and ask Him what His will is for your life.

---Ralph on 10/2/09


Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
not to be saved but for those whom are saved, which by your own volition show yourself trying to be religious. Joh 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand
---steven-rem7000 on 10/1/09


honestly Mic, you are missing it ALL, though you are fulling prophecy.
---steven-rem7000 on 10/1/09


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#1 Honesty God as my witness you hate the God of the bible, whom is my Father.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Obedience not to be saved, but for those whom are saved, which by your own volition show yourself trying to be religious are in opposition to the Scriptures. You have yet to come to a saving knowledge of Whom God is and why He sent His Son and Matt1:21 to SAVE HIS PEOPLE FROM THEIR SINS you say he cant do it unless you believe. The bible will not support you or anyone, God saves His people that is the work the Father sent Him to do. Honesty God as my witness you hate the God of the bible whom is my Father.
---steven-rem7000 on 10/1/09


Rem-rem,
here is part of the law also.

Deuteronomy 24
1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.

2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.

Matthew 5
32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery

If you accept the law in 1 Cor. then you must live by these also.
---miche3754 on 10/1/09


this is for Lee

1Co 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth, but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will, only in the Lord.
yes, they are in violation and try manipulating Scriptures to do so. Not many people want to hear what God has really said.
---steven-rem7000 on 10/1/09


sag>> God our Father PERMITS Remarriage. However, it is NOT his plan for anyone. I believe that God PERMITS Remarriage because we live in an imperfect world polluted by sin.

Very true, and many times our marriages end in divorce because we marry outside the will of God. We should teach others to spend more time on their knees in prayer to God before we get married as all too often what lies hidden beneath the surface could be very devastating later one.

Such was the case of the one who married an "ideal" woman, but found later that she would refuse to be the mother of his children nor would she want to limit herself to one man.
---Lee on 10/1/09


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Part1
I'm tired of hearing that the physical Jewish person is who the old testament was talking to. Who is a jew, (Rom 2:29)"But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly, and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter, whose praise [is] not of men, but of God". God used the physical jew to explain a higher wisdom, which is that as god's chosen people(jew), we are to keep the laws of god, it is to be written on our hearts.
---metuschelah on 9/29/09


1st Cliff see Malachi 2:16 and read the entire chapter for perspective. Yes, God hates divorce and about 45 other things listed in scripture.
Do a search, find the 45 pairings of God and the word "hate" and run away from every one of those 45.

God bless.
---larry on 9/29/09


I think that Remarriage compares closely to the novel "Frankenstein".

In the novel, the mad scientist, Dr. Henry Frankenstein, tries to play "god" and successfully transplants a human brain into a dead man's body. An electrical storm brings Frankenstein, the dangerous monster, to life. Playing "god" was a bad idea and brought along "trouble".

God our Father PERMITS Remarriage. However, it is NOT his plan for anyone. I believe that God PERMITS Remarriage because we live in an imperfect world polluted by sin.

Just as in "Frankenstein", trying to work things out OUR way [Remarriage], instead of God's way [ONE marriage for life], can turn out to be dangerous.
---Sag on 9/29/09


*God hates divorce*???
God divorced Israel,never took her back,now is betrothed to Christians..right??

How does that work???
---1st_cliff on 9/29/09


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For the Lord God of Israel hates divorce...



You getting remarried is not listed in scripture as one of God's priorities, for his will can likely be carried out by the single as well as the married person.
I will not condemn a person who gets remarried, but I suspect that in many cases our urges, appetites and libido tell us we just can't be alone, jump into the next marriage on the rebound and believe God will understand. All of this with no more wisdom and spiritual maturity than our last relationship.
Many second marriages have become bliss for dedicated Christians but that doesn't mean remarriage is God's will.
I find nothing biblically of God's support for remarriage unless I missed something.
---larry on 9/28/09


This is an interesting question. Here are some thoughts to help envaluate some of the answers here.
If one uses the OT for quidence, remember that it was written to the Hebrews. Most of us are not Jewish. The Hebrews were set apart people for God in those days. God's Jewish law was to keep them separated and dedicated to God.
Questions, are the married couple believers? Were they married/divorced while unsaved? Have they repented?
God is in the business of forgiveness, not accepting sin.
---Rod4Him on 9/28/09


Promise are made not to be broken but to be kept. Marriage is a promise. This promise is made not to humans only but to God too, that is why as Christians, marriage takes place in the church. It would sound meaningless if we heard a teaching where God promise something and he didnt fulfil His promise.We as christians are here to follow Jesus way of life, we have to stop thinking of exceptions.That is why it is important to know who you marry and if he is a christian and take time before you say, "I do". Promises should not be taken for granted. It may sound orthodox but we christians today try to accept everything:- divorce, gay marriage, abortion just to fit in this world.We have to be careful of false teaching, and false teachers.
---Blink on 9/28/09


//Yes and No, there are grounds for divorce, though remarriage is only permissible upon the death of the spouse.

Can you support that view from Scripture?

Scripture tells us that if any unbeliever depart, the believer is not under any obligation and can re-marry.1 Cor. 7:15

And is it better to marry than to burn with passion in view of the fact that divorce does end the marriage contract making both parties single again?

Usually those who hold that re-marriage is not permitted are those who fear their own marriage may fall apart.

Pastors of evangelical or fundamentalist churches do marry divorced people. Are you saying they do violate the Scripture?
---Lee1538 on 9/28/09


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Yes and No, there are grounds for divorce, though remarriage is only permissible upon the death of the spouse.
The Scpriptures are very clear on these matters, as it so that God hates divorce coz it is a picture of His union with His children whom Christ gave His life a ransom for, though not all are His children.
---steven-rem7000 on 9/28/09


a-e! i. o. u. > hey, I owe you that I love you > "Owe no man anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law." (Romans 13:10) So, first you owe yourself and God, that you love him the way God wants, and all others, also. See what God has you do, once He has you in His peace with His sense. In New Testament marriage, it is the man with his wife the way Jesus is with us His Bride (Ephesians 5:22-33). If you have an affair with Satan--by worrying, arguing (Philippians 2:14), hating, being unforgiving, etc.--does Jesus divorce you? If you can divorce him, I guess this could mean Jesus can divorce you for cheating on Him our Groom.
---Bill_bila5659 on 9/28/09


Leon:

I agree 100% with your answer.
---Augie on 9/27/09


Aaaa, I'd like to buy a vowel Carla. Can I have an "a"? I'd like to buy another vowel, an "e". Give me an "i". Carla, another vowel please -- an "o". May I have a "u"? I'd like to solve the puzzle Carla. :)

Mat. 5:31-32, 19:3-9 -- Mk. 10:2-12 -- Lk. 16:18 -- 1 Cor. 7:1-16.

Moderator: After an OT adulterous person(s) was stoned to death, their surviving spouse was free to marry someone else. I believe the NT says, if one can't find it in his/her heart to forgive & be reconciled with an adulterous spouse, he/she has permission to end the marriage by legal divorce & thereby dismiss or depart from their offending spouse as if he/she were dead.
---Leon on 9/27/09


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Carla: Vowels are letters in the alphabet.

Vows are promises that are often broken, especially the vow to keep oneself only for the other spouse. Study the scriptures to learn what God says about that.
---Trish9863 on 9/26/09


Matt 5:29-31, Jesus said, "Pluck out the offending eye, cut off the offending hand and divorce the adultery committing partner."
The marriage of Joseph and Mary almost ended in divorce.
If you divorce your mate because of sexual sins/fornication/adultry then they are to be treated as dead in the marriage. That is why it is not allowed to remarry the same person once divorced.
As to marriage vows, we do not have the poetic vows anywhere in the Bible. "Till death do you part" is a great Godly concept.
Most biblical divorces ended in stoning. That is why Joseph "thought on these things" Matt 1:18-25. He had made up his to divorce but not whether to do it publicly or privately.
---Elder on 9/26/09


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