Can A Drunk Get Saved
In your opinion can a drunk, while being drunk, be saved? receive the Lord Jesus Christ? Be forgiven and granted salvation?
Moderator - A big yes as well as any other types of sins God can save us.
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---mima on 10/5/09
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"By faith the harlot Rahab did not perish with those who did not believe, when she had received the spies with peace" Because God saved Rahab from the destruction of Jericho, does not mean that God condoned her past sexual sins. Because Peter called Lot righteous does not mean that Lot was perfect.
Peters statements about Lots righteousness is similar to how Noah was surrounded by a sea of iniquity 2 Peter 2:5, Lot was surrounded by extremely wicked, filthy, lawless citizens of Sodom.
Lot was far from perfect, but he was not a wicked man. Lot separated himself from the unlawfulness of the inhabitants of Sodom and was even tormented "day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds" 2 Peter 2:8. |
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---Ralph on 11/16/09 |
Mima, that is correct. You are right on. This context also tells us in v. 5 "did not spare the ancient world" it is the second illustration Peter gives, the first been the fallen angels in v. 4, now he talks about God serving as precedent for God's future judgment on false teachers is the judgment on the ancient world through the world wide flood. The human race was reduced to 8 people by that judgment, and the third illustration is Sodom and Gommorah. This distruction destroyed every person in the area by incineration, and hear this, to make them an example. Yet delivered righteous Lot. |
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---MarkV. on 11/16/09 |
Jody, your answer was right on the money.
God can save anyone. He has saved millions of drunks, yet many He hasn't. He can permit you to hit bottom before He brings you up to salvation. While drunk you could meet someone that God placed to bring His word to you, or you could go to jail and lose everything, job, wife, kids, before He turns you towards Christ and bring you back to your family through some ministry or friends who love you and witness to you.
Whether a drunk or not, none of us are worthy of salvation for everyone deserves death. We have all sinned against God and owe that penalty of sin, that only Christ works through His death can take care of. |
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---MarkV. on 11/16/09 |
---MarkV concerning Lot, I believe Lot to be a perfect illustration of OSAS. And I believe Lot was called just by God before he made mistakes and after he made mistakes.
What do you believe MarkV? |
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---mima on 11/16/09 |
I agree with the Moderator. No soil is too fallow, no heart to hard, that the Almighty cannot save. |
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---Eloy on 11/16/09 |
Mima, as to your question on Lot, you seem to not agree with God making him righteous. In your understanding how can God continue to call him righteous when he did what he did.
I figured you believed that when God saves someone he is for sure saved if his faith is true faith.
In 2 Peter 2:7-10 God gives the reasons why Lot sinned the way he did. He was overwhelmed by all the immorality. Lot was troubled deeply and tortured (tormented) with immoral outrageous behavior of the people. Peter is tells us that God's people are always rescued. God's plan in this case is to rescue the righteous before His judgment falls on the wicked. He will not let them fall. |
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---MarkV. on 11/16/09 |
Jody, I could kiss you. Very nicely put! |
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---JackB on 11/15/09 |
Jesus told us that He came to save the sick/lost. God can save anyone and deliver anyone He chooses. Our sins are forgiven when we are saved and we are all sinners. Even after we are saved, we contend with a sinful nature (read Romans 7). Our salvation is through faith is Jesus Christ only because we will never be good enough no matter how hard we try. The bottom line is faith working through love. When we love Jesus and others, we become more like Jesus. Our eyes/minds must be fixed upon Jesus and not the law. Jesus is the fulfillment of the law. |
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---jody on 11/15/09 |
With God, nothing shall be impossible. |
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---Anne on 10/22/09 |
Actually, the question was:
" can a drunk, while being drunk, be saved? receive the Lord Jesus Christ? Be forgiven and granted salvation?"
It was NOT
"will someone who remains a drunk be saved."
Two different questions.
Possibly two different answers. |
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---Donna66 on 10/22/09 |
Actually, I THOUGHT the question was:
" can a drunk, while being drunk, be saved? receive the Lord Jesus Christ?"
not
"will someone who remains a drunk be saved?"
Somebody must just have wanted to answer that question instead. |
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---Donna66 on 10/22/09 |
Truth tells us the evidence (the way you can have assurance that you're GENUINELY saved), is that you do as a style of life the will of the Father. This is not works, but the evidence of true saving faith.
True evidence of being born-again/regenerated is that you can know a Christian by their fruit. It will show in the way you talk, walk in life, and in the passions of your heart. The fruits are seen in that we won't talk, dress, or speak like this world...we're born-again of God.
A drunk can be saved, through the life changing conviction of the Holy Spirit. But, that Spirit will remain, and change that man. |
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---Anne on 10/21/09 |
Oh Boy! I'm REALLY hoping somebody will address Mima's question! Who will be brave enough to give it a try?
(I'll likely not find out-- I'm about to get a new knee...with surgery and rehab, I may not see my computer for a while). |
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---Donna66 on 10/20/09 |
---Francis as I read the first two lines of your answer,"I think we are asking, will someone who remains a drunk be saved.
The answer is NO
I was reminded of Lot and what the Bible says about him in second Peter 2:7,
" And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:" notice that lot is called just. I remind you that this is the same lot that got drunk and committed incest with his daughters(he might've been drunk but I still believe he had some concept of the act of sexual intercourse) yet he is called just. Is there a problem here? Can you clear this up? |
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---mima on 10/20/09 |
I think we are asking, will someone who remains a drunk be saved.
The answer is NO!
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1 Corinthians 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, NOR DRUNKARDS, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
We all had one or more sinfull issues before we came to christ, but we MUST BE BORN AGAIN |
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---Francis on 10/20/09 |
Yes, indeed. The Lord God knows a person's heart. To think that a person in a state of drunkeness is too muddled to understand the truth of the Gospel, is foolish. You will see in time, after the person sobers up, how genuine his confession is.
And sometimes it takes the Lord awhile to clean someone up. So don't assume that a new Christian with a drinking habit will NEVER drink again! Some may not, but some may stumble. Don't write somebody off just because they don't meet your expectations.
We ALL try the patience of God! |
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---Donna66 on 10/19/09 |
Are you asking if someone who IS drunk can repent of their former life and follow Christ?
someone in a state of intoxication would not comprehend what is happening ...knowing many evangelists believe they call many to God I'm sure many would believe someone who is in a state of drunkenness could be saved but that would be a lie
someone who is an alcoholic who drinks to be drunk often and is in a state of soberness could most certainly repent of their former life of drunkenness and with prayer and help they can overcome with time |
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---Rhonda on 10/17/09 |
Yes a person can receive Christ while being drunk, but they must repent with a sincere heart and ask God to forgive them. Once they do this, God will save them. Before that person leaves the altar, they will be sober and saved.
Robyn: God can save anybody as long as they come to him wanting to change, wanting to be saved. A person doesn't have to be sober in order for them to receive Christ. I've seen a really drunk man stagger inside the church, he reaked of alchol. The Pastor was giving an altar call, the man staggered to the altar and fell on his knees and became very humble. When he left that altar, he was sober and saved. The smell was gone. Never hinder or deny a person from going to the altar. |
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---Rebecca_D on 10/15/09 |
Absolutely! Anybody can be saved. |
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---helen on 10/13/09 |
Yes. It can & does happen. |
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---Betty on 10/13/09 |
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hey, if an drunkard is able to pray and asked to be save, heck yea, Christ died for all. |
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---larry on 10/13/09 |
God can do anything but fail but I think the drunk needs to be aware of what he/she is doing before he or she can make a life changing decision like that. Deciding to follow Christ is a very serious decision. The most important decision we will ever make in our lives.If one has ever been in a drunken stupor(really drunk) we can't do much in that shape. Nothing,really. We don't even know our own names. Drunkenness is a terrible sin and character defect. We must be ble to sincerely repent and invite Jesus into our hearts, in order to be born again. I don't think a drunk is able to do that until soberness sets in.
I would not try to take a drunk person to an altar call or get him or her to receive Christ at that time. |
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---Robyn on 10/10/09 |
I think it would be safe to say that the God who can cast out demons on the spot can also cast out the infliuence of alcohol or drugs and bring that sinner to repentance. NOTHING is impossible with God. |
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---tommy3007 on 10/6/09 |
Yes. We were all in sin when God saved us. This person is sure to need some follow up and discipling though. When he sobers up, Satan will undoubtedly try to make him doubt. |
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---Donna66 on 10/5/09 |
I think that my dad was drunk when he received the Lord Jesus Christ. |
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---amand6348 on 10/5/09 |
Let me paraphrase your question to see if I understand you, mima:
Can a person in a state of intoxication or otherwise mentally befuddled, make an act of saving faith and say the totally unbiblical "sinner's prayer" to achieve pop-evangelical salvation?
Is this what you are asking? |
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---Cluny on 10/5/09 |
Salvation has already been accomplished (made available) for everyone on earth (but "ETERNAL LIFE" is the goal).
The "guarantee" of eternal life will come only from a "mature" LOVE devotion.
In time, spiritual growth will cause maturity (The Lord will tarry with them while they conquer their weakness).
Ephesians 1:14
"which is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it".
Romans 8:16
"it is the Spirit Himself bearing witness with OUR SPIRIT"....as The Lord leads, they will conquer their weakness. |
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---more_excellent_way on 10/5/09 |
Why yes, if he/she is repentant! God once ministered to me when I went to church badly hung over, He was soooo merciful to me! I was already a believer but I was a sick one at the time, nonethless "His mercies are new every morning"! :) Praise God! |
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---Mary on 10/5/09 |
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