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Were There Christian Presidents

Were all the U.S. presidents, before President Obama, Christians? Is it a Constitutional requirement that the President of the United States be a Christian?

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Sorry Donna. Musta been something else I was reading... and got it mixed in, here, by mistake. Maybe I'm just getting too old to be on the internet.
---BruceB on 2/12/10


Bruce-- I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about.

I'd be hard-pressed to say that comparing anything said or written since then, against the scriptures, can be considered reliance on 21st century standards for its evaluation.

Me too. And I said nothing similar (Why would I? since we've had many other centuries besides the 21st!)
---Donna66 on 2/12/10


Donna66,

You are aware the most recent book included within the Bible was written some 1,900+ years ago--yes? I'd be hard-pressed to say that comparing anything said or written since then, against the scriptures, can be considered reliance on 21st century standards for its evaluation.

People may very well be products of their times. However, I can't find Adams' "...Exaltation in my own existence..." anywhere in scripture.

I can find this, however...

Lu 14:11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased, and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Last I checked, the definition of exalt, even with variance in literary stylings, has not changed in 1900 years.
---BruceB on 2/12/10


Mark Eaton --Thanks for bringing out a very important point. All too many people, products of modern public education, try to evaluate history by 21st century standards.
People are a product of their times. Unless we understand the general thinking of their day, we cannot begin to understand our ancestors. So much mis-understanding, in so many areas, result from a failure to recognize this.
---Donna66 on 2/12/10


That don't sound like "Christian-speak" to me.
---BruceB on 2/11/10

As I said, it was my best guess.

Men at this time in history did not think nor speak in the same way we do today. While his writing does have elements that we would consider today to be un-Christian, at the time they were very much thought and discussed by Christians.

Thanks for knowing so much about John Adams. He is one of my favorite historical persons.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/12/10




The simple answer is NO and Obama claims he is a Christian, but today almost all candidates claim some relationship with God. Some like Reagan or McCain speak in generalities about "God" and are given testimonies by their supporters and ideological twins. Some are cult members like Romney and are strangely given passes.
Romney (Mormon) is far more dangerous spiritually than Obama.
The only person I have heard mention salvation in Christ is Jimmy Carter and George W Bush. Governor Palin is the first "charistmatic" in my life time that could be a candidate for the presidency. The forefathers were christians, deists, secular slave owners, Masons and a mix of others as previously noted by Bruce and others.
---larry on 2/12/10


Mark E,

Adams was raised a Unitarian, and was educated at Harvard when the influence of deism was growing there. He used deistic terms in his speeches and writing. He believed in the essential goodness of the creation, but did not believe in the divinity of Christ.

"The Love of God and his Creation: delight, Joy, Tryumph, Exaltation in my own existence, tho' but an Atom, a molecule Organique, in the Universe, are my religion."

That don't sound like "Christian-speak" to me.

History (influenced by Satan as well as God) provides both truths and lies: both can be revealing. Belief in a supreme being does not a "Christian" make. Ask Muhammad--or Einstein.
---BruceB on 2/11/10


Wow. I bet you all flunked History in school.

My best guess would be John Adams.

His letter to Thomas Jefferson Dec. 8, 1818 "I believe in God and in his Wisdom and Benevolence: and I cannot conceive that such a Being could make such a Species as the human merely to live and die on this Earth. If I did not believe a future State I should believe in no God..."

Part of his inaugural address "...I feel it to be my duty to add, if a veneration for the religion of a people who profess and call themselves Christians, and a fixed resolution to consider a decent respect for Christianity among the best recommendations for the public service, can enable me in any degree to comply with your wishes..."
---Mark_Eaton on 2/10/10


If we are to believe Jesus' words, would it not be reasonable to assume that a Christian would be one who follows the Christ's teachings?

Mr 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe, In my name shall they cast out devils, they shall speak with new tongues,
18 They shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them, they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


Know of any Christian Presidents? Know any Christians--at all?
---BruceB on 2/10/10


President Lincoln also attended sances that were held in the White House.
---mima on 1/13/10




I actually think that most of our presidents weren't Christian, but there is one president who sat down every day and prayed and read the Bible. He,probably, was a Christian. Do you want to guess who it was? That's right!!!!!!! ABRAHAM LINCOLN
---girl on 1/11/10


Cluny ... as I said ... "anti-racist racism"

Waht did you think I said?
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/4/09


Trav ... Thanks ... I still see no evidence that Obama is a Muslim.
---alan8566_ofuk on 10/31/09

You just need to research more. There is much more than can be written here. Some of the lying posers quotes: "I never practiced Islam" - (but he did), he practiced daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so could run for office.
Mr. obhussein (Arabic all three names) described the call to prayer as "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset." After he gave, word perfect the opening lines of Arabic call to prayer 2-28-09.
---Trav on 11/4/09


Donna66 .... You are right. I had meant "in Obama's case", and wornglt extended that to general percesption of Marxism & Islam.

The true Marxist is of course against any sort of religion.
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/2/09


AlanofUK-- I remember Obama being (falsly) accused of being Muslim. I have read that he favors both Marxists and Muslims. (possibly true). There are those that see both Marxism and Islam as "evil"...I don't catch every post, but I can't recall anybody asserting they have anything in common (other than oppression of the populace).
---Donna66 on 11/1/09


\\Larry ... "Rev. Wright is crazy"
I don't know an awful lot about him, but some of what he says seems 'anti-racist' racism & thus rubbish \\

Racism against those of European descent is still racism.

Just as anti-male sexism is still sexism.
---Cluny on 11/1/09


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Donna ... " I've never heard anyone relate these two (muslims & marxism)!"
Well Donna, you have not been reading very closely here what some have said about Obama
And there is still no evidence given here that Obama is a muslim


Larry ... "Rev. Wright is crazy"
I don't know an awful lot about him, but some of what he says seems 'anti-racist' racism & thus rubbish

Cluny ... "true Christianity must ALWAYS challenge the prevailing cultural assumptions"
I know whaat you mean, but "Challenge" gives the wrong impression, since it involves "fighting with" I would agree with "ritically evaluate", or "test"
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/1/09


You're right Alan... I stand corrected. :)
---Leon on 10/31/09


About the quotes from Jeremiah Wright:

There was a time when many white Christians, especially in the South (and I grew up in Birmingham, Al), used their version of Christianity and their understanding of the Bible to support the status quo, which was VERY unfair to blacks. Many actually believed that the Bible taught that blacks were supposed to be in a subservient position.

And in the first century, Christians were considered disloyal to the Empire because they would not worship the Empire's deities.

Wright is right in this: true Christianity must ALWAYS challenge the prevailing cultural assumptions.
---Cluny on 10/31/09


Thanks Obewan and hello Trav, Alan. Rev. Wright is crazy, however no Marine who re-enlists and is then assigned to the besdide medical team of President LBJ would have passed FBI checks in the 60's if he had been a Muslim.

Wright's controversial sermon "Confusing God and Government" had a number of shocking statments besides "God ---- America", such as "Fighting to make peace is like raping for virginity", statements more suitable for a college lecture than a sermon.
His argument was that mixing God and Government here is the same thing Islamic fundamentalists do and both are "damned" by God. If he used the aforementioned sentenced without shouting it would have never made You Tube.
---larry on 10/31/09


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AlanofUK -- Do you really think people confuse Marxism with Islam? I can see associating "liberal" with "Marxist" because, in this country, extreme left liberals often praise Marxists. But Muslims are religious people, not atheists, and have virtually nothing in common with Marxists. I've never heard anyone relate these two!
---Donna66 on 10/31/09


Trav ... Thanks ... I still see no evidence that Obama is a Muslim.

I've watched Cone on Utube. He does not seem to be muslim, nor does Wright

Some here see liberal = marxist = muslim
It's not like that in the UK.

Leon ... This claims to be the largest interational Christian site. Not all who join in these blogs are American.
---alan8566_ofuk on 10/31/09


Even what you have now said is not evidence of O being a Muslim. So can you give the name of the book, so I can read in full what the Rev Wright says?
Thanks
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/28/09

If are sincerely looking, I apologize. Seems strange that with info available people are not aware who this man is or about. Utube James Cone. BLT theology nobama feed at the breast on over twenty years. Read then call me racist. Obama's own books acknowledge his leanings. His actions follow.
Donna informed.... "If you look at books on Black Theology or Black Liberation Theology you will see what Wright believes.
---Donna66 on 10/28/09
---Trav on 10/30/09


"...you know the answer so why ask such a ridiculous [?!] question.[?]" obewan, 10/29

Of course I know the answer Obewan! :) However, it seems many CN bloggers are woefully ignorant & /or, for misguided personal reasons, reject the facts in this matter. It seems for them ignorance is bliss as they rant & rave about what should be common knowledge to them as Americans.

My goal is to hopefully do permanent damage to their ignorance -- to enlighten & help them see the light of truth. I know, many here are adamantly opposed (resistant) to the truth regarding President Obama. So, that's an issue between them & God. :)
---Leon on 10/30/09


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\\
The true prophet of the gospel of God must become both "anti-Christian" and "unpatriotic." Pg. 55
We should not conclude that the Bible is an infallible witness. God was not the author of the Bible, nor were its writers mere secretaries. Pg. 31
If Jesus Christ is white and not black, he is an oppressor, and we must kill him. The appearance of black .. Pg. 111\\

And this proves that Obama is a Mahometan (as you claim) because.......??"????
---Cluny on 10/29/09


Obewan, most foot-stomping, tongue-talking, bible thumbing blacks and Hispanics are pro-life Democrats. Watch your mouth.
--larry on 10/29/09
Sorry, I did not intend to bash Democrats.

I was mainly teasing some of the ultra conservative radicals that frequent this board.

Thanks for posting up the Christian Dems who happen to be pro-life. That is something always good to hear about.

And I try to be non-partisan since I am a registered independent with Libertarian leanings.
---obewan on 10/29/09


Obewan, most foot-stomping, tongue-talking, bible thumbing blacks and Hispanics are pro-life Democrats. Watch your mouth.

The current kerfuffle in opposition to health care reform that has loophole funding of abortions is being challenged with a threat to defeat the bill by the chairman of the house Pro-life Caucus. That man is Bart Stupak a Christian and Democrat from Michigan. Stupak and Dan Boren, another Pro-life Christian and Democrat from Oklahoma oppose President Obama on this issue and have promised to do everything in their power to kill the bill unless loopholes are closed. Both however favor a public option. Good grief man, be friends of all who are friends of Christ and give that left-right garbage a rest!
---larry on 10/29/09


ALL presidents? Come on, you know the answer so why ask such a ridiculous question.

And since you know there have been some who were not Christian, then you also know the answer to the second question.

If people can accept the mind blowing concept that a Democrat could be a Christian then I would offer up the "born again" Jimmy Carter as one example of a Christian president.
---obewan on 10/29/09


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Jeremiah Wright has written numerous sermons and books. He is not a Muslim. He has said that a basis for Trinity's (Trinity United Church of Christ) philosophies is the work of James Cone, who founded the modern black liberation theology movement out of the civil rights struggles of the 1960s. Particularly influential was Cone's seminal 1969 book, "Black Theology & Black Power."

If you look at books on Black Theology or Black Liberation Theology you will see what Wright believes. Politically he identifies most closely with Marxism. Thus there is a VAST difference between the church of the pilgrims/puritans and Rev. Wright's church.
---Donna66 on 10/28/09


Trav: "Would rather have Luke Warm Christian leader Jr. over Anti-Christ muslim."

I wouldn't have either of them. A lukewarm christian is just as bad as an antichrist. But also remember that God choses the ones He wants in power to fulfill His will. God creates countries and He destroys them by puting certain people as leaders. By placing Obama, who is immature as a politian, it seems God is ready to destroy the United States. Obama has place czars who are against God into very powerful positions who are not in arm's length of congress.
---Steveng on 10/28/09


Trav ... Thank you for your reply ... "You are as bad as he is. Using the street con"

How can I be "as bad as he is" just by asking a question?

I am intersted in the evidence that you do now see fit to give me, which I have not seen or heard of before (in the UK we are somewhat remote from the uttereances of the leader a minor church some 1000s of miles away, and of whatis written in its creed-book)

Even what you have now said is not evidence of O being a Muslim. So can you give the name of the book, so I can read in full what the Rev Wright says?

Thanks
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/28/09


\\Below are Church doctrines he was part of at rev wrong's over 20 years...oath required to be a member. Married at this church. \\

Now, can you please provide the TEXT of said oath? (I might add that baptismal vows have been part of all classic baptismal rites, up through those of confessional Protestants.)

And how does membership in a congregation of the United Church of CHRIST (the continuation of those wonderful Pilgrims' and Puritans' churches) make one a Mahometan?
---Cluny on 10/28/09


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Cluny-- The Episcopalian Church was still strongly associated with the Anglican Church, the official Church of England. Those who resented the Crown and the Church, were also not the best Episcopalians. I suspect he attended because Martha wanted him to. But, again, only God knew his heart.
---Donna on 10/28/09


Trave ... Are you saying that Obama is an "anti-Christ muslim"?
Is there evidence of this?
---alan8566ofuk on 10/28/09

Say what? You are as bad as he is. Using the street con. Ha.
Below are Church doctrines he was part of at rev wrong's over 20 years...oath required to be a member. Married at this church.

The true prophet of the gospel of God must become both "anti-Christian" and "unpatriotic." Pg. 55
We should not conclude that the Bible is an infallible witness. God was not the author of the Bible, nor were its writers mere secretaries. Pg. 31
If Jesus Christ is white and not black, he is an oppressor, and we must kill him. The appearance of black .. Pg. 111
---Trav on 10/28/09


Trave ... Are you saying that Obama is an "anti-Christ muslim"?

Is there evidence of this?
---alan8566ofuk on 10/28/09


\\ Refusal to take communion is not a sign that one is NOT Christian...\\

Washington was theoretically an Episcopalian and served on the Vestry of the parish near Mt. Vernon.

He would LEAVE when the Communion service started in his church.

In the 18th-early 19th century USA, this was a sign that you did NOT believe basic Christian teaching.
---Cluny on 10/27/09


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Refusal to take communion is not a sign that one is NOT Christian... anymore than TAKING communion is a sign that one IS a Christian. Washingtons own diary would make me suspect he was a Christian. But all we can do is guess.

It is not for US to say which presidents were or were not a Christian. God is the only one who knows for sure. Someone with the power of the president can make serious mistakes, whether or not he is a Christian.
---Donna66 on 10/27/09


Bush (Jr) was not a christian!

A true christian would not bow down to a statue of another god like Bush did several years ago while visiting Japan. If he was christian, he surely disgraced the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
---Steveng on 10/26/09

I can't throw rocks at him. He wasn't leader needed perhaps didn't measure up to Christians standards. Find few do.....my self at end of line.
Would rather have Luke Warm Christian leader Jr. over Anti-Christ muslim. In overview...we've allowed these reflections of US to be placed. They are signs/marks.
Jr33:24Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, two families which LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? ...
---Trav on 10/27/09


From Atheist:I have always wondered about this idea...

So a mass murdered repents and receives salvation, but backslides and murders again -------Atheist

John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

I would wonder why GOD would draw a mass murderer....but, if he wants to....he is GOD. He can do what he wants. And will. Whether Atheist/Trav etc likes/approves or not.
King David was bloody. So much in fact that he couldn't......
read it yourself.
He also won't be degraded twice for sins.

Heb10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
---Trav on 10/27/09


Good question Leon, but its not a constitutional requirement the President be a christian. Christians don't vote by faith anyway but ideology.
Jimmy Carter, Hillary Clinton and President Obama have all claimed to be Christians, though Conservative Christians are more comfortable with pagan leadership such as Nixon, Romney or Cheney due to ideology.
Abortion and other social issues tend to push us toward candidates not confessions for Christ.
I don't understand pro-choice christians but God doesn't understand christians in favor of bombing Baghdad civilians in Iraq.
---larry on 10/27/09


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"I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful.

The Bible is "probably not" literally true. God created the world is "compatible with the theory of evolution". "I think you can have both,"

. The first quote is from Obama and the second from Bush. Both of these quotes will be attacked and defended on the basis of our idealogy not our faith. We are all hypocrites.
---larry on 10/27/09


Trav,---atheist on 10/26/09

Ha good one. I expect you/budd's would hang me/stone me/beat me long before election.
Uni-adulterated world walks with perverted/abortionist/muslim/etc,etc,confusion.
Like Israel of old...new won't include these/ur budd's. A hard time searching my own Christianity as you point out....won't know if I make it or not until time.
But, for you unbeliever's....it's a certainty.
Therefore say unto house of Israel, thus saith Lord GOD, I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among heathen, whither ye went.
Ezekiel 36
---Trav on 10/27/09


Did I read that George W has recently said that He does not beleive what the Bible says?
---alan8566_on 10/21/09


Not quite Alan, What he said to David Brody, a terrific reporter with CBN, is that he didn't take the Bible "literally".



Our forefathers included Christians, Deists, slaveowners, Freemasons, mysoginists and the variety of sinners we've seen since Genesis 6. Christians will cite the many "Christ" quotes from the Constitutional Convention and inscriptions on the Surpreme Court, Capitol and Mounument. In the irony of all ironies slaves built those symbols of Freedom and conservative educators have successfully kept that part of our history out of school books for over a century.
---larry on 10/26/09


Trav: "He acknowledged Christ as Christ and prayed daily. A disgrace? He did not coddle with the effeminate or the perverted. He served his country....the obamination wants the country to serve him."


Bush (Jr) was not a christian!

A true christian would not bow down to a statue of another god like Bush did several years ago while visiting Japan. If he was christian, he surely disgraced the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
---Steveng on 10/26/09


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Trav,

No doubt. But if everyone thought like you do,how much worse could it ge before we ere all dead or killing each other.

After 8 years of a President who claimed to be Christian, how would it look after a few years of President Trav?
---atheist on 10/26/09


Trav, you have confirmed my observations of you. I appreciate that. So go have fun with your Klan buddies....
---Curious.one on 10/25/09

Well thanks....believe I won't. I love House of Israel...all.
Psalm 98:3
He hath remembered his mercy and his truth toward house of Israel: all ends of the earth have seen salvation of our God.

Sorry, for bluntness, hurting feelings somewhere. Truth is ....hard. Coating/whitewashing lies doesn't accomplish anything. Thats why you don't believe and country is is in it's present condition.
Psalm 145:18
The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth.
Galatians 4:16
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
---Trav on 10/26/09


||George Washington. (some would disagree because he was a Freemason). He was a man of prayer, was the first president to free his slaves, and witnessed some true miracles.||

One of the great American myths is the piety of George Washington. He would refuse to participate in Communion services, much to the sorrow of his wife Martha.

\\There has never been a Christian president.\\

Who gave it to you to decide who is a Christian and who is not, frances?
---Cluny on 10/26/09


Trav, you have confirmed my observations of you. I appreciate that. So go have fun with your Klan buddies....
---Curious.one on 10/25/09


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Trav, you appear here as a white supremacist and antisemite. That makes you the true Christian here, I'd say.
---Curious.one on 10/23/09

Oy Veh!
---Curious.one on

Hard to be either one Curious. Last name of Israel in our background negates. Now yo messiah, Bary Sotohussienbamy could qualify in...an-other color supremacist views.

Oy Veh...by the way is yiddish. Not of the racial background of Israel being Ashkenazim in origin. Who adopted the religion. Not all Jews are Judean. Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie, behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
---Trav on 10/25/09


Just Curious ... My opening post here was a question, not a judgment.

It is not a judgment to report what someone has said.
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/25/09


Alan tells us 'who are we to judge?' and others judge harshly because they do not know how to read the bible, is he trying to convince his own mind he doesn't judge, when all he does is judge? he even started the first reply. lets call a spade a spade. he judges Genesis, the bible, our politics, with Bush he tells us he won't judge him and all he does is judge him. who is he kidding?
---more_curious on 10/24/09


True Christian?

Is there a racial or hereditary component to being a 'true Christian' or is it more a social idea?

Is it something that might be determined by a DNA test? Or is a secret sign or handshake involved?

Does 'True Christianity' have a history? Did some members at one time wear bed sheets, greet each other with 'Bubba', and burn crosses at their ceremonies, or further back in history wear black robes with hoods and use special interrogation techniques to determine those with hereitcal thoughts?

Do more 'true Christians' currently live in one part of the US than others, such as the South? Do false Christians eat brie cheese?
Can one be a 'true American' but not a 'true Christian'?
---atheist on 10/24/09


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It is not a Constitutional requirement that the president be christian. I do not think we had one, however we had Catholic and Protestant and are't these followers of Jesus Christ?
---BB on 10/24/09


The first GW probably was.
George Washington. (some would disagree because he was a Freemason). He was a man of prayer, was the first president to free his slaves, and witnessed some true miracles.
Unfortunately, a lot of modern Christians apply 21st Century culture (and Evangelistic standards) to great figures of the past.
---Donna66 on 10/23/09


The european forefathers whom came here on the Mayflower brought with them the Geneva Bible, "The Thanksgiving Bible", and they colonized New England and spread forward their government across America. I have not read anything which requires a person to be a Christgian in order to take office as the President of the U.S.A.
---Eloy on 10/24/09


Francis -- What makes you so sure we never had a Christian president?
---Donna66 on 10/24/09


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Alan of UK -- yes, who are we to judge?
Hard to know what "got into religion" meant. But he did give up "drink" (and he was strongly anti-abortion, which is rare in this country in a person without strong religious convictions).
---Donna66 on 10/23/09


This discussion should include Jimmy Carter as a President who was also a Christian. He taught Sunday School for years.
---Geraldine on 10/23/09


Trav, you appear here as a white supremacist and antisemite. That makes you the true Christian here, I'd say.
---Curious.one on 10/23/09


The closest we had to an Evangelical Christian as president was Mr. Bush, and he was certainly a disgrace, wasn't he.
---Curious.one on 10/22/09

He acknowledged Christ as Christ and prayed daily. A disgrace?

He did not coddle with the effeminate or the perverted.

He served his country....the obamination wants the country to serve him.
---Trav on 10/23/09


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There has never been a Christian president.
There has been several protestant presidents, one of two Catholic presidents. but never a Christian President
---Francis on 10/23/09


God can care less whether the president shows himself to be a christian because at the end of the day only god knows the heart of men.
---metuschelah on 10/23/09


Alan, that's rather disconcerting, isn't it.
---Curious.one on 10/23/09


There is no Constitutional qualification for religious duty. All of the Presidents, including those sometimes called Deists claimed to be Protestant Christians, with the exception of President Kennedy. Some were probably politicians who were Christians, rather than Christian politicians. To the best of my knowledge, the only recent President who specifically claimed to be one was President Nixon. ...and if so, proving Gods grace to save, and not our works.
Donna66 10/22, Change the "one" to a 'he'. Article 19 of the Constitution doesn't effect this qualification at all.
---Glenn on 10/23/09


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Donna ... Yes I agree with what you say there, but if you look at the whole of what George W said, he seems very unlike the Evangelical Christians we meet here. At one point, he said he "got into religion & gave up drink" Doesn't sound like being saved, does it?

But who are we to judge? But there are those here who judge other bloggers very harshly because they don't have an absolutely literal interpretation of the Bible ... I wonder what their view of George W would be?

I certainly won't judge him, except for his incomplete policy on Iraq (no plans for winning the peace ... and our own Tony Blair was at fault as well)and for following our Tony's relaxation of banking control which has got us into our present mess
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/23/09


//he was certainly a disgrace, wasn't he//
That of course, is a matter of opinion.

He//declares that his decision to invade Iraq wasn't based on his religious beliefs//
Most foreign poliucy decisions are not based on religion (which does not mean they are contrary to a leader's faith).
---Donna66 on 10/23/09


Curious One ... "The closest we had to an Evangelical Christian as president was Mr. Bush, and he was certainly a disgrace, wasn't he"

I found this on the Web: "President George W. Bush has told that ABC's 'Nightline' that his views on creationism don't necessarily conflict with evolution. The President also says he's not so sure to believe everything when it comes to interpreting the Bible and declares that his decision to invade Iraq wasn't based on his religious beliefs"
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/23/09


"Is it a Constitutional requirement that the President of the United States be a Christian?" This sounds like a rhetorical question to me. As far as I can tell, the current president is no more and no less Christian than most previous presidents. The closest we had to an Evangelical Christian as president was Mr. Bush, and he was certainly a disgrace, wasn't he.
---Curious.one on 10/22/09


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Were US presidents, before Obama,Christians?
Well, certainly, most CLAIMED to be.

It's not a requirement according to the Constitution. (A few STATE constitutions USED to have this provision for governors)

The be president of the USA, one must be at least 35 yrs. old, a natural born citizen, and have lived in the United States for at least 14 years. ( It doesn't say whether or not the 14 yrs. must be consecutive).

That's it! All of it!
---Donna66 on 10/22/09


There's No such a thing as a christian politician, if anything they'r trying to hide behind christianity. Politics Are corrupted & this would make a christian politicain vulnerable to Ratt God's people for their own gain. And No doubt it's being done any way.
---Lawrence on 10/22/09


All the presidents up THROUGH Obama were some kind of confessing Christian, even though many (if not most) would probably not be allowed to be members of the typical pop-evangelical church--or would want to be.

Two presidents who made their faith campaign issues. Jimmy Carter and George Bush II, were not that effective in office.

The U. S. Constitution specifically says that NO oath (save that upon taking office) or religious test shall be required of anyone holding a federal office, which means there is no requirement the President be a Christian.

The individual states have adopted similar measures.
---Cluny on 10/21/09


No, they were not all Christians, and no, it is not a requirement of the U.S. Constitution.
---Trish9863 on 10/21/09


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The best thing to do is to take the time and read all of the Constitution and the Amendments for general knowledge sake.

The short answer is that there is no Constitutional requirement for the President to be a Christian, but you could always start a grass roots amendment change through the state legislatures and see how far you can get.
---The_Friendly_Blogger on 10/21/09


Yes.

But of course,

and 'he' not 'she' must be able to recite the entire Bible backwards, from end to beginning, while simultaneously patting his head with one hand and rubbing his tummy in a conterclockwise direction with the other.
---atheist on 10/21/09


Did I read that George W has recently said that He does not beleive what the Bible says?
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/21/09


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