Government Wants Control
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I'm sorry Robert, It was Bill Mayher, hope i spelled that right, he is the movie producer, that said God is a jealous tryant. |
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---wayne on 11/11/09 |
Robert, I have nothing in common with Bill Murry.
---wayne on 11/11/09
You do have a lot in common with this movie..
you like to spread hysteria. |
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---NurseRobert on 11/11/09 |
Robert, I have nothing in commom with Bill Murry. He said one time "that God was a jealous tyrant" and as for the other things you said, I have no idea what you're talking about. AWI'S. |
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---wayne on 11/11/09 |
Thats ok Wayne, you remind me of Bill Murray:
"This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff.
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!"
Keep going Wayne. You can make me smile. |
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---NurseRobert on 11/10/09 |
larry- //neighbor who works for the Veterans Administration and the son who joined the Coast Guard. IRS workers live in neighborhoods just like yours so the idea that government is some far off entity is just plain silly and a cop out//
These aren't the ones who make the decisions, they are just ordinary citizens like the rest of us. Nobody complains about THEM...they don't make decisions for the whole country.
Fortunately ,Congressmen and Senators are NOT some "far-off" entity. They sometimes act like it. They have been "hired" to work for the American people and the tax-payers who pay their salaries.
WE are their EMPLOYERS and we would be amiss if we did not supervise them closely and advise them. |
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---Donna66 on 11/10/09 |
Robert you remind me of the book Glen Beck wrote...AWI'S |
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---wayne on 11/10/09 |
Catherine, would George Bush have been part of the 'curse'? |
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---Janze on 11/9/09 |
Anti-government mumbo jumbo
2Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
2Peter 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government.
Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. >
Go ahead argue with scripture. You won't be the first. |
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---larry on 11/7/09 |
As I see it, people/governments throughout history sought power over other people, so there is nothing new here.
I see the institutionized church doing the same and continues to do the same. They control by teaching the tithe (actually all your money), and other controls by quilt.
As industries seek to monopolize, so the institutional church follows as evidenced in mega churches.
Governments always want as much control as possible. That's why the U.S. Constitution was made, to LIMIT the control of the federal government. |
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---Rod4Him on 11/7/09 |
As I sit here behind the golden EIB mike, I'm tell you'll this HC bill as I read it makes no sense at all. This is the biggest bunch of monkey jargon that's ever been in print. Wrote by some of the biggest Idiots as far as logical thinking goes.
Remember that in the 2010 elections. |
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---wayne on 11/7/09 |
Some people seem to have just woken up to the reality of the power of the US government. The truth is, goevernment does not want control. Government has had control for decades.
There is very little about the individual American citizen that the government or some other organization does not know. And this has been the routine practice for decades.
I would raise the question to those of you who current live within the USA. Name any two things that you do, as a citizen, that is not being monitored, in some way, by an agency, government or otherwise? |
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---Janze on 11/7/09 |
If this thing passes the gov will control about everything we do.
---wayne on 11/7/09
The sad part is, Wayne, is you believe this. I don't see any hope for you... |
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---NurseRobert on 11/7/09 |
The government is your neighbor who works for the Veterans Administration and the son who joined the Coast Guard. IRS workers live in neighborhoods just like yours so the idea that government is some far off entity is just plain silly and a cop out.
Frankly the government doesn't have a chance as both Wall Street and the Federal Reserve are private and have much more influence over the daily lives of Americans than Congress or your City Council.
It was private industry that pushed through relations with China, sought cheap illegal labor from Mexico and decided a C section was a pre-existing condition.
I have a chance to influence my congressman but no chance getting through to BP about $3 gasoline. Get a clue people. |
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---larry on 11/7/09 |
Do you think they do?
---Donna66 on 11/6/09
They may not, but they have people who work for them who do.
Yes, there is a word limit, but when posting 8 lines, with NO reference to what section, what paragraph, nothing, makes absolutely no sense.
Wayne was being juvenile when he did it. |
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---NurseRobert on 11/6/09 |
Robert..That's what I mean. It's that way all the way through it. With the excpetion of "the secutary shall determine later" inserted about 500 times.
If this thing passes the gov will control about everything we do.
Now Robert, are you comfortable with this?
I'm not making this up. It's there.
Rush or Beck didn't have to tell me anything. |
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---wayne on 11/7/09 |
Nurse Robert ---Isn't there a word limit on these blogs? No way to post even a whole paragraph of the document, certainly not 1990 pages.
CONGRESS needs to read all the references. Do you think they do? |
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---Donna66 on 11/6/09 |
Can anyone understand this?
---wayne on 11/6/09
Not when you only post part of a passage..
Post the whole thing, read the references and what it applies to. |
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---NurseRobert on 11/6/09 |
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ice category....Can anyone understand this? |
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---wayne on 11/6/09 |
There is a curse by God upon this nation. Obama is this curse....If you have not noticed it yet, you will. Just WAIT. |
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---catherine on 11/3/09 |
Most of what 0bama has done in office so far appears to be aimed at "Re-making America" into a Euro-Socialist nation. He dislikes free enterprise and has done what he can to discourage it (thus the high unemployment rate). Hate speech laws are an extension of this...since we, the public, are, as Pelosi says, like "unruly teenagers"
... we need Government to tell us what to think and say.
But CAP AND TRADE is something else! I'm sure he thinks it will "save the planet". but meanwhile it will accomplish nothing but lose hundreds more jobs (the number of "green jobs" can not compensate). It will dramatically raise the energy bills and the cost of living for all Americans...including the poor! |
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---Donna66 on 11/2/09 |
Now the gov plans to tax the rich and small business. More monie going to the gov to use at their discretion.
The bill is funded largely from a 5.4 percent tax on individuals making more than $500,000 a year and couples making more than $1 million, starting in 2011. The tax increase would hit only 0.3 percent of tax filers, raising $460.5 billion over the next 10 years, according to congressional estimates.
But unlike other income tax rates, the new tax would not be indexed for inflation. As incomes rise over time because of inflation, more families and more small business owners would be hit by the tax. |
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---wayne on 11/2/09 |
Tom2 - We are better off (in the US) in nearly every respect than the citizens of other countries. This is chiefly due to capitalism. Socialism is a Utopian ideal that deprives people of their individualism and incentive to achieve. It has never led to a prosperous and productive society. |
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---Donna66 on 10/30/09 |
even more dangerous is the free market system,and capatalism.look at their control,commercials,credit cards,high rate mortages,this country sadly is completely controlled by greed,greed for money,and power.But I guess really thats peopleI guess one of my favorite lines was in the movie contact by jodie foster replying to skeritt about the worlds not fair I quote,FUNNY i THOUGHT THE WORLD WAS WHAT WE MAKE IT. |
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---tom2 on 10/30/09 |
KarenD --- I haven't forgotten anything. This "change" is NOT what I voted for (though obviously many others did)! This does not keep me from speaking out about what I see as very wrong. When Bush was president, dissent was considered "the highest form of patriotism". If it was true then, it is true now.
Next election, maybe "we the people" will agree with me and the many others who share my concerns. |
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---Donna66 on 10/29/09 |
The government already controls us. If you don't think that is true, try driving down the road without a seat belt and going 100 mph. Try going straight to the counter at the post office without waiting in line. The problem is that we as Americans have forgotten one thing. We are the government. You get the CHANGE that you vote for. |
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---KarenD on 10/29/09 |
yes Donna, they just want control and they don't care if they destroy the dollar and small business. Why does BHO want a civilian task force? he doesn't like our constitution that's worked for 200 years.
There will be an unleash of the so called bail out monie in 2010 for campaign purposes for the liberals. Hows that for greed? |
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---wayne on 10/29/09 |
No, I see a lot of right wing paranoia. I see rightwingers spreading misstatements, falsehoods and outright lies to get their "point" across
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Is this because liberals are just too blind to see ...or because they themselves spread disinformation because they don't have ALL THE FACTS only a few?
how could "one party" be ONLY party spreading "lies"?
unless of course liberals are so full of themselves ONLY THEIR WAY is ever "right"
which is worse - spreading LIES about half truths ...or spreading QUESTIONS raising issues via statements about half-truths shoved down masses throats?
liberal half-truth campaign used hoping dull minds won't fuss just accept and forget |
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---Rhonda on 10/28/09 |
funny how events turn around to Lot standing at the gates of Sodom saying men and brethren don't do this wicked thing only to be told by the sodomites .. how dare you judge us now we will do worse to you. oh how i pray for the rapture 1 cor 6-9 |
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---jerry on 10/28/09 |
Wayne -- I agree with you. But I think they know they can't control people directly just yet. I think they are TRYING to control the "economy". Having a "pay czar" ,taking over the banks, the largest auto company, demonizing insurance companies and the Chamber of Commerce. And...if federal money pays for health care, they will have the ability to control many of our personal choices. I believe they feel that by "controlling" the economy, they WILL control the people. |
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---Donna66 on 10/28/09 |
Gov cannot control the economy without controling the people first. Yes it's a spiritual evil we face as someone pointed out. There is no right or left, it's up or down, good or evil. As long as the gov can keep us divided they will have a better chance at achieving their agenda. We must remind our elected officials THEY WORK FOR US. We are not the masses, we are individuals and can think for ourselves. We love God, family, freedom, our jobs, and our guns. Big gov equals less God. That's a fact. |
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---wayne on 10/28/09 |
When the gov controls the health care industry they will control us. Thats what it's all about. They don't care about our health. Now some are using the H1N1 to scare us into supporting the public option.
Can any spell (Idiots)? |
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---wayne on 10/28/09 |
Government control??? The government already
has control,they took prayer out of schools a
very long time ago.They already are against
Leviticus 20:13 and 18:22.Also Romans 1:24-27
and 32.This verses are in the Bible(Christian) that is!!! |
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---antha8986 on 10/28/09 |
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The health care bill doesn't really worry me. I am worried that Americans are losing their rights, though. |
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---amand6348 on 10/28/09 |
No, there is no trend where there is no truth. |
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---Eloy on 10/27/09 |
I don't see the paranoia. And I hear plenty of misstatements from the left ... (IF you have an insurance plan/doctor you like, you can keep it..)No bill says you have to give up what you have, but the natural consequences are that your plan and/or company will not be available for long under any proposed plan. (The public option is strictly voluntary) Not if you have no other place to turn.
The more control government has over our health care, the more individual liberties we sacrifice. MANY examples of this in other countries and in history. They will be "justified" in determining what we eat, drink and do for recreation, if they, (actually taxpayers) pay, they will control. |
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---Donna66 on 10/27/09 |
To Whosoever Has An Ear To Hear?
Those trends aren't new, they've been on-going & known since 1Sam.8:10-17, with the underlining theme "He Will Take" b/c it the only way man can give. While the Lord only Gives !
This will be the manner of king that shall reign over you. He will take your sons, and appoint them for his chariots & horsemen. He will appoint some to ear his ground, reap his harvest & make his instruments of war : and take your daughters to be confectioneries,cooks & bakers.
He will take your fields, vineyards, olive yards and ye shall be his servants as He takes a tenth of your seed & sheep, to give to his officers & back to you his servants.
Remember Rom.8:28 & continue to Pray ! |
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---Shawn.M.T on 10/27/09 |
Good point, NurseRobert! |
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---Cluny on 10/27/09 |
No, I see a lot of right wing paranoia. I see rightwingers spreading misstatements, falsehoods and outright lies to get their "point" across. |
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---NurseRobert on 10/27/09 |
The trend is no trend. If you don't have insurance you favor some type of health care reform, if you've been a victim of a hate crime you're interested in the bill passing, and if your convinced were putting too much junk in the air and soil you probably favor cap and trade. People are concerned with their own situations which has been going on since Cain, Able and Seth. Nothing new.
The wacko ideologues on the left AND right are dangerous only because they are blind. They believe the battle is against flesh and blood and spend most of their time railing against other americans. People who blame our problems on liberals or conservatives are pathetic and misinformed. How sad. Its selfishness and has always been selfishness. |
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---larry on 10/27/09 |
Not only the U.S.A. Gov, but the other Nations Governments will be under One Governing control. God knows when that will be. |
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---Lawrence on 10/27/09 |
Actually, it's the liberal elitists in government that want to control. They know that their views and ideas are morally and intellectually wrong so the only way they can get people to do what they want is through government control and statist rule. Nothing new under the sun. |
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