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What Is A Soul

"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world & lose his soul?..." (Mt. 16:26, Mk. 8:36-37) What is a soul?

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The part of you that isn't physical.
---Angel11 on 2/6/10


donna, thanks for your reply. I don't pretend to have all the answers, but I do try to...1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and [be] ready always to [give] an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
The issue is context. Soul can mean:
Gen 2:7 body(corporeal) and breath(incorporeal)
1 Thes 5:23 mind and heart(incorporeal)
Hebrews 4:12 your spirit as opposed to His spirit(ref:John 3:3-7, 1Pet 1:23,1Cor 2:11)--incorporeal
Isaiah 10:18 mind and heart (incorporeal)
Luke 10:27 spirit or will (incorporeal)
Mt. 16:26, Mk. 8:36-37 must mean the incorporeal part of human, probably not just thoughts/mind/understanding nor intents/heart/wisdom, but soul/spirit.
---MIchael on 2/6/10


Test results are in Jerry. Too bad, you've earned an "F" for foolishness. :)
---Leon on 2/6/10


Jerry, again you ask a question to answer with your rediculous comments to try an make a mockery of spirit-soul concerning Biblical matters. There is no reason why anyone should respond to your questions. There is no good intention coming from them.
---MarkV. on 2/6/10


Leon: Now let me see if I understand you correctly. Your spook goes to heaven (or elsewhere), but it can't think because it doesn't have a brain? How much fun would that be? Going to heaven, but never experiencing it because you can't think. To quote the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz: "If I only had a brain!"
---jerry6593 on 2/6/10




Okay Jerry! One last time. :) You asked, so I will "again" give you my understanding of Ps. 146:4.

1. "His breath [spirit, soul, mind] goes forth [leaves his physical body at death],

2. he [his dead body] returns to his earth [his physical body is buried],

3. in that same day [the day of his death] his thoughts perish [his thoughts are no more "because" his physical brain is dead "because" his spirit, soul, mind has gone forth]."

Believe it or not, that squares with (isn't contrary to) Scripture & here ends the lesson.
---Leon on 2/5/10


The soul is the operating system of the life of an individual. Just like the hard drive of your computer cannot function without windows XP A body cannot function without a soul. Man can shock it back to life and cause the spirit of life to return but the body is in a vegetable state unless the soul is in operation. As the soul matures and grows it adds software that gives it the ability to add all kinds of functions that makes the souls a unique individual. A soul is born with carnal software that makes it Gods enemy. But through the operation of God by faith in Jesus we have the opportunity to download upgrades and software from God that brings us into the operating system of the Spirit of God.
---exzucuh on 2/5/10


Michael, my answer would be the same as yours. A description of soul & spirit being the same thing is in the passage Donna gave. Hebrews 4:12. two edged sword dividing "soul-Spirit," "Joints-marrow," "thoughts-intents,"
In the context of the passage, it is talking about the two-edged Sword, as a tool of judgment and execution for those who have not committed themselves to Jesus Christ. Some Hebrews were merely going through the motions of belonging to Christ. They were at least partly persuaded, but inside (soul-spirit) (thoughts) they were not committed to Him. The two edged Sword, "God's Word" would expose their shallow beliefs, and even their false intentions (1 Sam 16:7, 1 Peter 4:5).
---MarkV. on 2/5/10


It is the of a shoe...I jest.
---Eloy on 2/5/10


Leon: "my question has to be "who's interpretation""

Just curious, but how do YOU interpret:

Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth, in that very day his thoughts perish.
---jerry6593 on 2/5/10




I have noticed that scripture uses these words interchangeably in many passages. Maybe it is an issue of English translation. Frankly I don't know or care. Jesus said to not be afraid of what a man can do to you but fear the one who can cast your soul into hell. I am not sure that this really matters in the grand scheme of things. I don't think God will hold this point against anyone. Faith, Hope, and Love are important.
---jody on 2/4/10


"So HOW could soul also mean spirit?" Donna, 2/4

Is your mind, will & emotions (soul) flesh or spirit Donna?

---Leon on 2/4/10


michael said: Soul also means spirit

michael, if that is true, then how come Hebrews 4:12 says that the word of God is sharper than any two edge sword, etc.,...piercing even to the DIVIDING asunder of SOUL and SPIRIT.

The word of God is able to divide the soul (mind, will and emotions) from the spirit.

So HOW could soul also mean spirit?
---Donna on 2/4/10


Samuel.. Only to point out that the Bible uses the word 'soul' in different applications and context, hence different meanings, therefore we cannot take the Gen 2:7 meaning and apply it broadly across the whole spectrum of the Bible.
The 2 ends of this conversation seem to say--
There cannot be a spirit in man that outlives him because that's not what soul means.
--and--
Soul also means spirit and it applies to the everlasting soul/spirit of man..created, but eternal.
We do agree that we will be eternal upon Christ's return, even though created, but I am starting to find it vanity to discuss with any intensity what happens in between.
---MIchael on 2/4/10


Matt. 22:37 shows heart, soul & mind are the same. Did you notice Samuel, it didn't say "body/flesh"? Leon

It did not need to since Soul covered all of it. Is the heart a seperate conscious entity that just lives in a body? I Thess 5:23

independent-no, different-yes
'heart' equates to wisdom or emotion. 'mind' to understanding or knowledge 'Might' or 'strength' is usually body. MIchael

True.

'Soul' usually equates to spirit or breath, but sometimes to a person as a whole. MIchael

Mostly to a whole person.

To interpose synonyms.. Love the Lord thy God with all thy wisdom, understanding, body and spirit.--since 'soul' cannot mean the whole in this context. MIchael

Why?
---Samuel on 2/4/10


Excellent Scripture & good point Michael. Based on what you've presented from Scripture, my question has to be "who's interpretation" -- the one that agrees with Scripture or the one that's contrary to it? The interpretation of G2:7 is incorrect only if it's not God's interpreted revelation.

Bob: Yes, indeed!!! I think we get into serious trouble when we lean upon our own understanding instead of allowing God, the Holy Spirit (the Comforter) to guide our understanding as He interprets Scripture for us.

Matt. 22:37 clearly shows heart, soul & mind are the same. Did you notice Samuel, it didn't say "body/flesh"?
---Leon on 2/3/10


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independent-no, different-yes
Deuteronomy 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Luke 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind, and thy neighbour as thyself
Usually the 'heart' equates to wisdom or emotion.
The same with 'mind' to understanding or knowledge
'Might' or 'strength' is usually body or flesh.
'Soul' usually equates to spirit or breath, but sometimes to a person as a whole.
So to interpose synonyms.. Love the Lord thy God with all thy wisdom, understanding, body and spirit.--since 'soul' cannot mean the whole in this context.
---MIchael on 2/3/10


The interpretaion of Gen 2:7 that we are a soul is based on the meaning of the words so it is correct.

Soul can be used to remphasize the whole. Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Unless you are saying that the heart is independent of the rest of us.
---Samuel on 2/3/10


1 Thessalonians 5:23(-) and [I pray God] your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.--Why is spirit, body, and soul seperate here and in no particular order as if they are not parts of each other?
Hebrews 4:12(-) piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit--The soul and spirit can be divided and still be called soul and spirit?
Isaiah 10:18 And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth.--soul and body both? as if they are seperate entities.
Could it be that the interpretation of Gen 2:7 may be incorrect?
---MIchael on 2/2/10


Psalm 23:3 He restores my soul. My concordance refers to nephesh. A soul, living being, life, self, person, desire, passion, appetite, emotion. I would describe my soul as being made up of all the emotional elements which inhabit my heart and brain. These elements help to establish my conscience. Supposenly all mankind has a conscience. Before I was saved I used my own ability to control all of my thoughts, beliefs, actions, emotions, etc.. according to my knowledge, understanding, and justification. After I accepted Jesus as my Savior I received the Holy Spirit into my heart and soul to teach and train me in the ways of the Father. To not lean on my own understanding, but in all my ways to acknowledge Him.
---Bob on 2/2/10


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Leon: Sorry, but using the scriptures to call me a fool does not edify you or the Lord. Why must you turn a thoughtful discussion of biblical topics into a name-calling contest? Why not stick to the topic without getting personal?
---jerry6593 on 2/2/10


"...you might try offering some scripture to support your illogical views." Jer', 2/1

Loose interpretation: You're saying even if I gave you Scripture proving what I believe, you will reject it. Your tenacity only further proves my point. That's why I've said, "What can I further say to you?" You simply don't want to hear it because you cling to false assumptions/doctrine.

Here's Scripture that aptly applies to your situation: "A fool's lips enter into contention [a contest, strife], & his mouth calls for strokes [to be beaten with many stripes]. A fool's mouth is his destruction, & his lips are the snare [noose, trap] of his soul [mind]." Pv. 18:6-7
---Leon on 2/1/10


Leon: "What can I further say to you?"

Well, you could try answering the few simple questions I asked. Or you might try offering some scripture to support your illogical views. Instead, you resort to childish rants and name-calling. Get a grip, will you?
---jerry6593 on 2/1/10


What can I further say to you? Like many others on the CN blogs, you just don't want to get it Jerry because it conflicts with your religious indoctrination (belief system).

You twist & spin, & imagine falsehoods despite the Bible stated facts (like flashing lights) that are ever in your face. No dude, it's not about what Leon, Jerry or anyone else thinks or says. It's all about what the Bible clearly says without the need of false interpretations from any of us. That's something you'll have to deal with or else be dealt with because of your unbelief.

It's incredible how high your rating as a helpful blogger is. You must vote for yourself or have a loyal following of misled Jerryites?
---Leon on 1/31/10


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Leon: Please demonstrate exactly how my logic is illogical.

You seem to be expounding the non-biblical doctrine of purgatory. Was that your intent?
---jerry6593 on 1/31/10


Samuel, Mathew 10:28 does not indicate that God is killing the souls when people die. Not even close.
The next passage, "For the wages of sin is death" this is refering to the condition of all man who are descendants of Adam after the fall. They are spiritually dead, and need to be reborn of the Spirit and their sins forgiven by the blood of Christ. Once that happens they will be spiritually alive to God.
---MarkV. on 1/29/10


As usual Jerry, your logic is illogical. Unfortunately, it's quite apparent, you just don't get it -- yet. :)

MarkV: It is true, when a person dies bodily, his/her very much alive but lost soul goes to hell where it doesn't die, but is tormented (not to be confused with being tortured as some suppose). Like the parabled rich man in hell, lost souls have severe regrets that "torment" them.

Hell is death row for lost souls/ unrepentent, convicted sinner. Their execution doesn't take place until such time as their soul & physical body are reunited, & stand before God's White Throne Judgment. THEN -- destruction (execution, DEATH) in the Lake of Fire... (Mat. 10:28)
---Leon on 1/28/10


It does not mean that when people go to hell they die there. They have to pay for their rebellion against God. If they died there, then there would be no punishment. .... God does not tell us, that at some point, He will kill their souls. MarkV.


So being executed and placed in a prison is not a punishment?

Yes JESUS said He will destroy our souls.
Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death,
---Samuel on 1/27/10


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Leon, great points again, and to add to your last statement,
"Bottomline: Man nor death of the body can destroy a soul. Only God can!"
It does not mean that when people go to hell they die there. They have to pay for their rebellion against God. If they died there, then there would be no punishment. Since those who are lost are separated from God, it would benefit them to just die in hell and be separated from God as they always have been, but they will not escape what they have coming. God does not tell us, that at some point, He will kill their souls.
---MarkV. on 1/27/10


There are diverse opinions, but there is only one Bible answer. According to Gen 2:7, the "soul" is the combination of the dust of the ground (body) and the breath of life (life force from God). Thus, when one of the components of the "soul" ceases to exist, the "soul" itself ceases to exist. Logic demands it.

Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth, in that very day his thoughts perish.

Only at the resurrection at the 2nd coming of Jesus will the life of the "soul" be restored with a new, immortal body.
---jerry6593 on 1/27/10


Your soul is made up of your mind, will, & emotions. When your body dies, your mind,will, & emotions will part from it and live forever in either heaven or hell depending on wheather you conciously accepted Christ or not.
---Jed on 1/26/10


Leon, in answer to the first part of the question concerning Matt. 16:26, here in the context "For what profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?".
This is refering to at the time of judgment when one faces the disastrous hell of remorse and suffering for his lost soul, "with what will he buy it back from perdition?" the point is, He has nothing to buy it back with. It's too late.
Second, in this case the soul stands for the "Life principle of the person." Information on words used on the context of this passages can be found in a Wordstudy Bible with Grk and Heb.
---MarkV. on 1/26/10


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P.S. What Jerry & others don't understand (when quoting Scripture --Ez. 18:4, regarding the death of the soul) is God says when a person dies physically (bodily) & his/her soul (mind) hasn't (by faith in God) consciously repented of his/her sin, then that soul is subject to God's judgment. It immediately goes to hell when his/her body dies & at the time of the White Throne Judgment the soul is cast into the Lake of Fire & DIES (IS DESTROYED).

Jesus (the Son of God) said, "Don't fear those who kill the body, but aren't able to kill the soul. Instead, fear Him [GOD] who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Matt. 10:28

Bottomline: Man nor death of the body can destroy a soul. Only God can!
---Leon on 1/23/10


What is a soul?

In the OT, the word occur some 755 times and has the primary meaning of possessing life (Gen. 2:7) and is used also of animals. (1:20). In the Psalms, it stands for the life principle, also refers to the various states of consciousness - the seat of appetite, the source of emotions, and is associated with the will. Although seen as departing at death (35:18),it is never used for the spirit of the dead. In the NT it has similar meanings although its sense of life is more than physical (Mk.8:35). Paul uses it for life (Rom. 16:4) and desire (
Eph. 6:6) Others say the soul may be saved (James 5:20), New Concise Bible Dictionary.
---Lee1538 on 12/7/09


Jerry: I do understand. I don't mean to offend, but obviously you don't.

I stand on what I've previously said, based on what the Bible says. It is what it is as explained by Scripture.

For your soul's sake, meditate on the word of God (Scripture, the Bible) & ask God to explain to you what He'd have you to know. Don't trust the twisted spins (teachings) of any religious group. Have faith in God!!!
---Leon on 12/2/09


Leon: That's it? A moving smiley face? Does that mean that you are now convinced that the soul "is" the person and not the "breath of life" that comes from God to give life and goes back to God at death? Do you now understand that "the soul that sinneth, it shall die" (Exe 18:4), and thus cannot be immortal until immortality is "put on" at the resurrection and second coming of Christ (1Cor 15:53)?
---jerry6593 on 11/28/09


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"I checked my responses below to see if my quoting of scripture was in any way prideful...I couldn't find any." Jerry, 11/10

:)

,
Peace!!!
---Leon on 11/10/09


Leon: "Jerry: It seems to me you're just trying to win an argument despite the overwhelming Bible evidence that support my statements & refute yours. (Proverbs 16:18)"
---Leon on 11/9/09

I could say the same thing about you, but that would be unkind. I've given you substantial Bible evidence, and you've given a convoluted, self-contradictory theory. I checked my responses below to see if my quoting of scripture was in any way prideful as you assert. I couldn't find any. Would you please point them out?
---jerry6593 on 11/10/09


The Bible says:

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.

Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth, in that very day his thoughts perish.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. ...

Always go by the word of God and not the teachings of man.
---djconklin on 11/9/09


Jerry: It seems to me you're just trying to win an argument despite the overwhelming Bible evidence that support my statements & refute yours. (Proverbs 16:18)
---Leon on 11/9/09


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Since the Spirit returns to GOD.

Ecc 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

We know this is true. But the Bible never says the Soul returns to GOD. The soul and spirit are not the same thing. The doctrine of most churches is that the Soul is a seperate entity residing in a person.

Now some say here we are a triune person. In a triune compand if you remove one of the componets the whole is dissolved. So even this points to the sleep of the dead and no immortal soul.
---Samuel on 11/9/09


Leon: It seems to me that you have contradicted yourself.

Re Gen 2:7, you said:
"The man then became mentally conscious (a breathing creature, soul, nephesh, mind) -- alive." Thus, only when breath was added to dust did man become a soul = a conscious, living creature.

Then, re Ps.146:4, you said:
"At physical death, man's breath (soul/mind/consciousness)" Now you claim that the BREATH is the SOUL, rather than the life-giving component of the soul. And thus, the breath itself becomes the conscious, living creature.

You can't have it both ways.
---jerry6593 on 11/9/09


Genesis 2:7 speaks of that life giving force God created in the human body.

Psalms 146:4 merely speaks of the body being returned to the earth but says nothing about that life giving force within the person.

Also there is Stephen who asked Jesus to receive his spirit, obviously not his body but something within his very being.

Actt7:59 And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

So you have really offered nothing that would convince one that man is anything but a triune being possessing body, soul & spirit. And the Bible speaks of all three entities.
---Lee1538 on 11/7/09


"How would you 'interpret' these scriptures?" Jerry, 11/7

The referenced scripture adequately explains itself:

G2:7 - God caused the lifeless physical body of man to inhale His life giving breath. The man then became mentally conscious (a breathing creature, soul, nephesh, mind) -- alive.

Ps.146:4 - At physical death, man's breath (soul/mind/consciousness) "goes forth". That means it's spirited/exhaled out of (separates from) the physical body. So, what's left is a physically dead body. Absent of "thought" (consciousness: SOUL), the lifeless body is "returned to the earth" (buried).

I sincerely hope this helps your understanding Jerry.


---Leon on 11/7/09


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Jerry, I have said this before, you are a nice guy, and I am sure if we met we would get along. But what I see you are not doing is, really searching for the Truth. We have all kinds of Word Study Bibles with the correct words in Hebrew and Greek, so that we can check the words that are said in Scripture. This books are help adds. When someone is really devoted to Christ and loves Him with all his heart, they will do anything to learn about Him, with the resources they can affort. I even took a study in Hermeneutics, a small study, just to make sure I interpret things correctly. I could care less for denominations if they all taught the Truth. This way when we give this Truth it will have the power of God behind it otherwise it is useless.
---MarkV. on 11/7/09


Leon: "Jerry: You quote a lot of Scripture. But, you seem unable to discern the difference between what the Bible says about the physical/natural man & the spirit man (mind: soul). I believe this is why you're confused about what a soul really is."

Uhh, could you provide a scripture to substantiate those assertions?

I read:

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.

Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth, in that very day his thoughts perish.

How would you "interpret" these scriptures?
---jerry6593 on 11/7/09


jerry//If you'll notice, the four quotes I gave Leon were ALL from the Bible. Methinks it is you who needs to improve his reading skills.

While you sometimes quote from the Bible, the interpretation you give has to be that of Ellen White, whom you believe was an infallible prophetess of God.

Sorry but the Bible makes a distinction between soul, body and spirit and nowhere does it state that either of these entities disappear upon death.

The Adventist god is not the god of the living but of the sleepy heads!~



---Lee1538 on 11/6/09


Jerry: You quote a lot of Scripture. But, you seem unable to discern the difference between what the Bible says about the physical/natural man & the spirit man (mind: soul). I believe this is why you're confused about what a soul really is.

You conviently quote Scripture, but it's apparent you lack understanding of it because you're not looking to God for clarity & wisdom. Reading the Bible more, apart from the Holy Spirit, won't help beyond pre-K growth in the Lord. Seek God's lead...

MarkV: Let us always strive to study the whole Bible in right context to the edification of our soul.
---Leon on 11/6/09


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I applaud the idea that people use search engine and look up the word Soul and sleep to find the truth. I would add the word death and one other point. Blueletter bible and other search engine allow that after looking up a verse you can read it in different translations. That would add more depth to the study.

But sad to say I do not believe most people will actually do this. Since it actually uses the Bible as the final source of authority. It also requires time and effort to get to the truth. But if you do be sure and above all Pray to GOD for guidance from the HOLY SPIRIT.

May the LORD Bless and keep you.
---Samuel on 11/6/09


Many times in scripture, the word "soul" is synonymous with the word "life". "Then yhwh God shaped man, even the soil of the ground, and breathed into his face the breath of life. So man was made a living soul." Genesis 2:7.
---Eloy on 11/6/09


lee: "Jerry needs to read the Bible more and Ellen White less."

If you'll notice, the four quotes I gave Leon were ALL from the Bible. Methinks it is you who needs to improve his reading skills.
---jerry6593 on 11/6/09


Steveng: Good counsel to do a word search on "soul." Comparing scripture with scripture is the proper form of Bible study. Another good one for a word search is the word "sleep." It refers to the state of the dead more than it does to nightly slumber.
---jerry6593 on 11/6/09


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It's amazing. All of you are right in a fragmented sort of way.

Search the scriptures to find for yourself the meaning of "soul." Go to BibleGateway and do an online KJV bible search for the world "soul." Read all 498 verse concerning "soul." Reading all verse is not for the weak soul.
---Steveng on 11/5/09


Leon 2 continue: I posted a second part to my answer but did not come out.
The word soul "Nephesh" in another context means the vital principle which results in death when it leaves the body (Gen. 35:18 1 Kings 17:21) Nephesh can die or stop (Judges 16:30), it can be killed (Num. 31:19) and poured out with blood (Isa. 53:12, Lam. 2:12). So soul or "Nephesh" can is used in many phrases differently. Nobody can just say, this is what it is, since in Scripture it has many different meanings depending on the context of that passage the word is found in. That is why Lee is correct in his answer. If it can be killed, surely it was alive.
---MarkV. on 11/5/09


I find this statement,"Luther's right hand man continued to teach it after Luther gave up the idea." by ---Samuel on 11/5/09 the very misleading. To understand that Luther definitely believed in works you have but to read the small catechism and/or the large catechism. I fear that Luther's teachings have led many an unwary person to hell!!!!
---mima on 11/5/09


First Lee conditionalism was around and taught by churches before Ellen G. White was born. Luther's right hand man continued to teach it after Luther gave up the idea.

Now the Bible says we are a soul in Genesis 2:7. But on the reference about not being afraid of those who cannot kill the soul. Remeber all will be resurrected. Some will perish or cease to exist some will be given eternal life.

3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Those who do not follow GOD perish. They will stay dead forever. This makes the two phrases match not contridict as your interpretation does.
---Samuel on 11/5/09


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Your soul is your mind, will, and emotions. The soul in Eccle. was both the unsaved spirit and the mind together. Your spirit being dead because seperation from God was linked to the soul which was controlled by the flesh through the five physical senses.
Those who lived under the law when they died they went to Abrahams Bosom (a place next to hell) others who did not live according to the law went to Hell. Rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)
---Blaine on 11/5/09


//Thus, when the body dies, the soul does not continue living - it simply ceases to exist.

Then why did Jesus tell us to fear him who is able to destroy both body & soul in hell?

Mt. 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

And we see there is a distinction between soul & spirit.

Hebr. 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

Jerry needs to read the Bible more and Ellen White less.
---Lee1538 on 11/5/09


Leon:

Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing

Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth, in that very day his thoughts perish.

Act 2:29,34 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. ..... For David is not ascended into the heavens:

Joh 11:11,14 Our friend Lazarus sleepeth, but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.....Lazarus is dead.
---jerry6593 on 11/5/09


"...when the body dies, the soul does not continue living -- it simply ceases to exist." Jerry, 11/4

Is that Bible fact or "simply" your opinion Jerry? True, the soul of man has it's origin in the breath of life from God. Yet, the soul (though housed in the human body/the brain) isn't dependent upon the body for existence (life). Rather, the body depends on the soul (breath of God) for life.

When our physical bodies die, our soul lives on (either in God's presence or in hell). That's what the Bible teaches.

Jesus' statement (see Bible references above) implies we don't have to lose our soul (mind: will, emotions, intellect) "IF" we're obedient to God's word.

---Leon on 11/4/09


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Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.

SOUL IS THE BODY WITH THE BREATH OF GOD IN IT

At death the process is reversed
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
---francis on 11/4/09


Leon, in Scripture the soul is discripted in different ways depending in what context "soul" is mentioned in a given passage.
1. Nephesh-noun arises from the word naphash. it is the breath, respiration, life: Soul spirit, mind, a living being, a creature, person, self. Most of them are closely related concepts which break down to a few basic meanings.
2. The verb Naphash occurs three times in the Niphal (passive-reflexive) stern (Ex. 23:12, 31:17, 2 Samuel 16:14) and means to refresh one's self.
3. Nephesh, the deriv. noun, appears to be note "breath" in Genesis 1:30 (Gen. 2:7, 1 Kings 17:22, Job 41:21). It is the soul by which the body lives, continues to live by drawing breath.
---MarkV. on 11/4/09


SOUL in Strong's Concordance from an OT reference, the dominant definition of SOUL -- any living breathing creature or animal, there are about 5 or 6 exceptions in when it is a different Hebrew word.

SOUL, Greek NT usage you are going to get a significantly different definition that is closer to the term spirit. Biblical NT writers and modern theological y writers tend to use them interchangeably to some extent.

Generally you can apply an OT definition to a NT usage, it may be expanded but the original OT definition will be one of the usages but not necessarily the dominate usage. You general should not apply any NT definition to an OT passage as the probability is very high that it will not apply.
---The_Friendly_Blogger on 11/4/09


Again, according to the Bible, the soul is the combination of the body and the breath of life from God. Thus, when the body dies, the soul does not continue living - it simply ceases to exist.
---jerry6593 on 11/4/09


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Soul-the part that is individual.The mind,the will the emotions.
---shirley on 11/3/09


"Conscious awareness of ones being." Joseph, 11/3

Can you please expand upon your statement? Thanks.

What is a soul MarkV? :)
---Leon on 11/3/09


Leon, the passage is saying, that at judgment when he faces the disatrous hell of remorse and suffering for his lost soul, with what will he buy it back from perdition? he cannot buy it back, it is too late.
Losing his soul is to be found guilty and heading for hell itself. Where he will feel pain, after he receives his body prepared for hell.
---MarkV. on 11/3/09


"What is a soul?" Conscious awareness of ones being.
---joseph on 11/3/09


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Perhaps my last post would be better stated in this way.
'A' soul is one consciously and/or subconsciously aware of ones being (self, life).
'The' soul is representative of the conscious mind, as the seat of ones recognized 'will, emotions, appetites or passions'. (As in "The soul that sins, it shall die.")
Referred to as the "heart" when the aforementioned aspects are applied to the unrecognized subconscious. (As in "The heart is deceitful above all things..")
---joseph on 11/3/09


Pierre: If you were only breathing, would you really be alive? :)
---Leon on 11/2/09


Answer: The presence or absences of" the breath of life."
---Pierre on 11/2/09


The soul is simply who you are. Your whole being, save for your flesh-and-body which your senses operate through while you have breath. It encompasses all that you feel emotionally. It includes all that you think. Your memory and your knowledge. It includes your five senses of sight, taste, touch, hearing and smelling. It is everything that you are. Your soul is dwelling inside of a temporary flesh-and-blood body until Death comes (or the Rapture for some). At Death, your soul will live on in another body that will be "designed", as it were, to fit the Place that you end up living in for Eternity. Be that Heaven, or Hell and the Lake of Fire.
---Gordon on 11/2/09


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Good response Pierre. But, what determines whether or not a person is alive or dead?
---Leon on 11/2/09


Gen 2:7 KJVAnd the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.

NKJV - Gen 2:7 - And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being.

This seems pretty clean that a living soul is a living being a dead soul then would be a dead person.
---Samuel on 11/2/09


A "soul" is a living human being. To loose ones soul as mentioned in the text is to loose ones life. Obviously it would not do anyone any good to gain the whole world if he or she would loose his/her life at the same time for he or she would be dead.
---Pierre on 11/1/09


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