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What Is The Mark Of Cain

What was the mark of Cain? (Gen. 4:14-15)

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Cain's spirit was one of self-centeredness & self-righteousness. He felt entitled (authorized) to rise up against, fall down upon & strike his brother dead. He was loveless (G4:9) & God's word wasn't good enough for him since it wasn't what he wanted to hear. With religious fervor, Cain opposed (bullied) all who stood in his way. His spirit of rebellion was passed on & seen in his great-greatgrandson Lamech who also felt authorized, even justified in killing a man. (G4:23-24)

Cain's spirit is yet with us today, raising hell (Cain) worldwide thru totalitarian & theocratic dictatorships, & religous fanatics of all kinds & in misguided people on the internet wanting to force their will upon others.
---Leon on 11/29/09


Trav, your spin on Zipporah exceeds anything I've heard

Miriam was not punished for opposing the world's first recorded interracial marriage, she was punished for speaking against what God approved.
---larry on 11/19/09

Larry, That is the point. Punishment. Some spin the story. There is not one GOD APPROVED case of doing what GOD forbid. To suggest that Moses would on this,after past punishments for is incredible.
When a false doctrine based on False and misleading information causes many to err as Baalam/enticed....that needs pointed too.
Now you roll em any way your heart dictates. I only pointa to error. Your enticing/embracing 1 World universalism. Baalams curse.
---Trav on 11/20/09


Ex': I've taken you for what you are. Peace, pleeeze!!! :)
---Leon on 11/19/09


Trav, your spin on Zipporah exceeds anything I've heard on the so-called savings with health care reform.
You've missed the entire lesson behind Moses marrying a dark-skinned African.
The lesson for Miriam and apparantly you is that if God's blesses something its not your business to speak against it.
Miriam was not punished for opposing the world's first recorded interracial marriage, she was punished for speaking against what God approved.
To use a facade of historical intellect to argue against the pigmentation of a woman that otherwise would be insignificant is beneath you my brother.
---larry on 11/19/09


leon you are very wrong, the body is not the same, some have more authority than others. you have a rebellious attitude as one who despises authority.
1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
Authority is given to those that are called many are called but few chosen. The reason is that not all are willing to follow Jesus laying down their lives and taking up their crosses. You have mistaken me for one without authority.
---exzucuh on 11/19/09




That's kind of out there? what is not out there concerning the Bible? That's why the world will not believe, That's why you do not believe God has a Son, It's too far fetched,
this mystery that was from the foundation of the world, that God had a Son before everything was created and by him did God create everything that is. Why do you even believe anything about the Bible, It is all kind of out there by Carnal standards.
---exzucuh on 11/19/09


"The study of Twins could be another topic." char, 11/18

Balls in your court -- start a Twins blog. :)
---Leon on 11/19/09


Sorry but thats just kinda out there, Ex

And please dont compare how people reject your explanations to the way people rejected Christs message. That is seriously thin ice to be tredding on, sir. Not 1 single Christian in this world has all the right answers or all the power they need to make it on their own. God made us the way we are for a reason. We are all parts of the body of Christ. We need each other for our individual strengths which are given to us BY God.

If the pinky toe operates more strangely than the rest of the body, are chances greater that the toe is malfunctioning or the rest of the entire body is?
---JackB on 11/19/09


2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,

The falling away from the truth is where we are the church selling Jesus out for lies and politics and redefining of moral standards. they have resurrected Judas and he lives in them, Control freaks, they have taken the bride of Christ like Absolam took his Fathers wives and are molesting them in the view of all the world. But they are being revealed as the Sons of Perdition the tares the ones with the mark of Cain. Soon Jesus will appear and judge them for what they are.
---exzucuh on 11/18/09


The serpent, the mark of Cain, the dragon, the mark of the beast, the false prophet, the spirit of the world, the Antichrist, the son of perdition, are all synonymous, God speaks in metaphors, picture language, a person with dyslexia can relate because they process information by pictures in their mind not words. the pictures represent words but if you do not know what God says the pictures represent you cannot know the meaning of what he is saying.
---exzucuh on 11/18/09




Leon,
Checks and balances are good for the soul,thanks.

Nephilim or Giants of Genesis.
From:
naphal which is to fall and Nephilim meaning fallen ones.
Num13:33
The sons of Anak,of the nephilim.
Gen 6:4
...in those days,and also [After That].
Anak was a descendant of the Nephilim,and Rapha was another,(different clans).
Anak's father was Arba,and builder of Hebron(Gen35,Josh15,21)
[Palestine branch not called Arbahim after him,but Anakim after Anak].
Great mighty and Tall(Deut 2,9)

Satan:a fallen one,resulting a separation and division.
Angel:fallen ones, separated/divided
Cain:fallen,separated/divided
The study of Twins could be another topic.
Good study,Thanks.
---char on 11/18/09


Leon what makes your interpretation so accurate. Is it because it is what men have been teaching for so long you think it is right. The Jews thought Jesus's teaching would destroy their religion and it did and what I am saying is messing up your religion and also it makes more sense and you don't like it because it hit's home and make's you uncomfortable. Yeah! to much compromising in peoples lives, leads to the Mark of the beast and they make their own doctrines to cover their nakedness like fig leaves.
---exzucuh on 11/18/09


That's an incredibly inaccurate spin Ex'. Obviously, you've made up your mind to believe error. I hope you'll one day come to allow, by the leading of God the Holy Spirit, the Bible to speak to you rather than your continuing to hop down the bunny trail of self-interpretation. Peace!!!
---Leon on 11/18/09


Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

This says he CAUSED it not put it on them.
The Antichrist Spirit influences, Just as he he influenced Eve to be his false prophet to Adam.

Romans 1:28 God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient,

This says God gave them over to the Mark of the beast the reprobate mind of Cain

The Mark is the fruit of the tares when they ripen.
---exzucuh on 11/18/09


"The Mark of Cain was the same Mark as the Mark of the beast it was the Mark of separation..." Ex', 11/17

Wow!!! That's quite a stretch of your imagination. However, it can't be true since G4:15 says, "the Lord set a mark on Cain." But, in Rev. 13:16 the beast caused people to receive his mark. Therefore, the mark placed on Cain isn't the same MARK.
---Leon on 11/18/09


Well God marked him , because even though Cain killed his brother , he was a seed of Adam and Eve< they and their decedents where the originally Jewish nation that God created that where his.But no one was allow to harm Cain and the was the sign , because God would kill those who try to harm him.( if it is the same as the mark of the beast , God would of dismissed him) i think if anything it would be more symbolic of the sealing of the holy spirit if any thing. where you get it was the same as a mark of the beast is beyond me,
---Nefidela on 11/17/09


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Well leon you know people can believe anything they want but very few know things by the Spirit of God. The Mark of Cain was the same Mark as the Mark of the beast it was the Mark of separation meaning he was controlled by the beast carnal nature that God warned him about.

Genesis 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

God gives men over to their desires and the lust of those things rule their lives with beast like cravings and desires that cannot be quenched.
---exzucuh on 11/17/09


Exzucuh: So, do you believe God probably marked Cain with characteristic attributes like Al the great or the pint sized Napoleon to keep his enemies at bay -- from killing him? While I believe the men of renown likely were tyrantical bullies & descendants of Cain, I find what you say very hard to believe of one who was made an outcast, vagabond & fugitive in the earth with no armies to command & protect him from the wrath of "every one". :)

No, I'll stick with this pitiful man (Cain) being made into a

"GIANT"

(a very big guy) for the dread of "every one" & Cain's personal protection.
---Leon on 11/17/09


nef-eel'
or nphil {nef-eel'}, from 5307, properly, a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant:--
giant.

The word giant that is used in Genesis 6:4 does not necessarily mean a large person but a powerful man like Alexander the great, Or napoleon Bonaparte,Men of renown famous for their terror and destruction. But it can also mean huge. The Sons of Adam married into the family of Cain and this was forbidden because the anointing that was upon them made them more powerful and they used it for evil. Therefore God destroyed them all.
---exzucuh on 11/16/09


Jesus was most likely very dark. So why doesn't that make sense? i mean, we will never know for sure, but it is an interesting thought, huh?
---casey on 11/8/09

Hmmm. Made sense to me. What I always believed.
Until, I seen a copies of letters from Pilate to Tiberious in Rome describing YAHSHUA with golden hair and beard. Original in library of Rome,copy in Library of Congress.
Another observation peculiar, about self proclaimed Jews in Washington/Israel/California/New York/Ohio.....or congressmen calling themselves Jewish....they look a little pale.
Mark 13:5
And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

Yes, any man. Search for yourself.
---Trav on 11/16/09


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"They came from Canaan son of Noah."
Exzucuh, 11/16

How then do you explain the Genesis 6:4, pre-flood era, GIANTS who lived long before the post-flood times of Canaan & his descendants?
---Leon on 11/16/09


They came from Canaan son of Noah

Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants:

Joshua 15:13 And unto Caleb the son of Jephunneh he gave a part among the children of Judah, according to the commandment of the LORD to Joshua, even the city of Arba the father of Anak, which city is Hebron.

Joshua 14:15 And the name of Hebron before was Kirjatharba, which Arba was a great man among the Anakims. And the land had rest from war.

Amos 2:9 Yet destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks, yet I destroyed his fruit from above, and his roots from beneath.
---exzucuh on 11/16/09


JackB: That's very, very funny. :D

But, Cain was very concerned he'd be physically harmed, even killed. (G4:14-15) While it's true "baldness" likely would've set him apart from the "every one"/"whosoever", I don't believe it would've kept him from being harmed.

I believe since Cain rose up, fell upon & killed his brother Abel, the Lord increased his physical size (marked him as a giant, atleast larger than everyone else) to intimidate & keep "every one/whosoever" from trying to harm him less they be killed in the process.

Is my belief a gigantic stretch of the imagination? Can any of you better explain, using Bible evidence, where the giants came from? :)
---Leon on 11/16/09


Joseph, your answers seem more likely then marks on the inside. How could other's know not to harm him if something didn't identify him to others?
The mark is not indentified in the passage, but it had to be some sort of indentifiable sign that he was under divine protection which was mercifuly given to Cain by God. At the same time, the mark that saved him was the lifelong sign of his name. When I say saved him, was saved from been killed by others. Not that he was saved to go to heaven.
---MarkV. on 11/16/09


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I didn't mean to insult you & get your hackles up char. Please forgive me. :)

Does anyone wonder where the "giants" came from?

1.) G4:14-15 (*Cain: fugitive, feller/felon, vagabond, outcast)
2.) G4:23-24 (slayer)
3.) G6:4 (giants: "big" bullies, tyrants, "men of renown": a mark* or memorial of individuality)
---Leon on 11/15/09


I think he was bald

One bald man would certainly stand out among people with a full set of hair.
---JackB on 11/15/09


Trying to discuss a topic with brotherly love explains it better.
Perhaps that wasn't as obvious.
If not,
Thanks for the call out.

The Holy Spirit is the true teacher.
Jn 14:26
1Cor 2
---char on 11/8/09


Casey ( & Leroy): Is it possible God does tell us but we're not really listening?

Casey: I've gotta ask, what does Jesus being, "most likely very dark," have to do with Cain's mark? :) By the way, a gentile is a non-Jew.

Rosalie, Joseph, char...You're tryin' too hard to explain what should be scripturally obvious.
---Leon on 11/8/09


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Actually i have no idea and i don't claim to. however, all we can really do is speculate about these things because GOd doesn't tell us. But, I heard an interesting sermon that said maybe the mark was the color of white skin. You know because white people are gentiles, for the most part and in all realisticism, Jesus was most likely very dark. So why doesn't that make sense? i mean, we will never know for sure, but it is an interesting thought, huh?
---casey on 11/8/09


Mark means....its symbol of curse, or ownership. like branded products it signifies ownership. When it says "MarK" that particular persons owns by??? We study "Mark" means....Please be careful this is important. "Mark of Cain" is associated with those who are cast out...ownership of the devil, Mark of sin. like in Revelation 13,16 Mark of the Beast, or 666. Eze.9:4

If we say Mark for God where ownership of God like in verse psalm 37:37, Gal 6:17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

Its is important to check our Bible...how it defines it by scripture to scripture. Nice question.

---rosalie on 11/7/09


Thanks Joseph,
Understood.
I do always look forward to your post.
Shalom.
---char on 11/7/09


Char I was simply thinking, during the time of my last post, in terms of the uniqueness of His name, note: no one else in scripture has that name, and the only derivative of it is the name tubal-cain. Anyway, I understand where you are going, If allowed by the Mods. I will respond. I say if allowed because at one time you inquired concerning the seed sown by Satan (Gen.3:15) in the garden and what or who that seed was in reference to. I want you to know that I did respond but the response was not posted. Perhaps we can only go so deep in this particular forum:o)
---joseph on 11/7/09


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Joseph,
...via word of mouth,or perhaps as if by Divine Inspiration,as a foreboding omen....If not instinctively,by the name Cain.

Good thought.

Can we tap into this alittle?(walk me through this).
..Cains character was one of disobedience.Quayin/kayin-Qana being the root word meaning 'acquire or to get' from God.
Kenites-Offsprings of Cain
Quayinites-lance or a spear(not sure about them).
Note:Kol-translated,no one,
anyone,whatever,anything,or all things.

Cain is associated with evil and wickness,he himself can be a sign for all to see who committed "blood" would be banished.
Taken both literal and symbolic,Physical and Spiritual.
Input welcomed.
Thanks.
---char on 11/6/09



THe number of the beast is john 6:66 it is the number that reveals the Antichrist . John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
1 John 2:18-19 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists, whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us,
---exzucuh on 11/6/09


But presumably you will tell us why "Adam" signifies Caucasian

Thanks
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/5/09

I learned late in life that I only TRULY believe what I find myself. If there are two or more (proven) witnesses on a particular unknown.....it confirms a fact.
I've found thousands of witnesses/confirmations on one subject. 2-3 will stand.
So I'll point. Look if interested enough.
First get an original language concordance...it easy. It's even free online and faster. Look up the name ADAM.
Adam means ruddy. Ruddy means to blush or show red in the face. You ruddy englishmen.
---Trav on 11/6/09


As a matter of fact Moses married an Etheopian(sp) woman.
---kathr4453 on 11/5/09

Always attempting to teach but never learning anything.
Moses had more sense than to break this particular law. Whether you do or not.

There was no country named Ethopia in Moses time. This word is a MIS-translation of word CUSH. Cush found in Noah's lineage. Woman was more likely a moabite. As land was also called MOAB. Moab is relative. Because she was from here residing in land of, does not make this race. Moses knew she was acceptable...unseeing,out-(law)of order (like found)jealous wife brother did not.
2 Peter 1:2
Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,
---Trav on 11/6/09


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"What was the mark of Cain?"
Cain's mark was the Father' ominous warning concerning him. "whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold."
This warning would have gone before him via word of mouth, or perhaps as if by Divine Inspiration, as a foreboding omen.
How would they have known him? If not instinctively, by the name Cain.
---joseph on 11/6/09


Greg,your statement:
The mark placed on cain was not in his mind.Who could see it and know not to slay him?

Also understood.
As a suggestion, not implied as fact.
Suggestion #2 of my previous post.
The mark (could've) been the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet "tav" (a cross).
My positioning is as posted.
---char on 11/5/09


Matthew 19:4-5, Jesus quotated Gen1 and Gen2."
Tongue, 2 stories?:
Gen 10:5: "By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands, ..."
...
v20:
v31: "These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations."
v32: "These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood."

Gen 11:9: "..., because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
v10: "These are the generations of Shem: ..."




---Nana on 11/6/09


Wow.... everything in the bible matters and is important. That dose not mean we are to imagine we understand, but be lead of the Holy Spirit into all truth. It is written, we shell give an account of every ideal word we speak and "Be not many masters (instructors) among you knowing you shell receive a greater condemnation."

The mark place on Cain was not in his mind. Who could see it and know not to slay him? The mark was whatever God place on him to let other's know not to harm him, an obvious mark which could be seen.

This mark is not placed on people today for protection, no matter what some "Preach." We are no long in a dispensation of innocence (ignorance) as Cain.
---Greg on 11/5/09


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Kathr4453,agreed.
Interesting and Beautiful.
Acts9
Saul persecuted Jesus,working against the truth "kick against the pricks".
Having his eyes opened,scales fell,recieved sight,preached Christ and suffers for the Lord's name sake.
Saul chosen and changed:Pauls mind is renewed and his hands now work unto the Lord,his mark is a stigma,like a run away slave for the cause of Christ,marked as Christ faithful and approved votary,servant,soilder.
The prick or mark of a pointed instrument,branded for Christ.
Putting off the sins of the flesh and raised up together with him,identifing in Christ's death and resurrection by the Holy Spirit.
Amen.
Forgiven and redeemed
---char on 11/5/09


It doesn't really matter what the mark of Cain was. Paul warned Timothy about such issues, they lead no where. The only focus today is Christ and loving your neighbor as your self.
---leroy on 11/5/09


(Sealed with a promise.)


Char, we know the seal is the seal of the Holy Spirit.

It's interesting, Paul said I bear IN MY BODY, not on my body the marks of the Lord Jesus. I believe he was talking about the marks of the cross in our lives. The marks of the fellowship of his suffering. These are the marks of those who have been crucified to this world and are a New Creation of the New Creation! Paul uses circumcision,physical marks in comparison,yet we know true circumcision is Colossians 2...circumcised with the circumcision of Christ! That TRUE Circumcision..of putting off the sins of the flesh and raised up together with Him only comes to those who have identified in Christ's death and resurrection life.
---kathr4453 on 11/5/09


(Sealed with a promise.)
The mark on the hand and forehead could be WHAT your MIND is renewed WITH and WILLING to put you're HANDS too.
A mind NOT renewed with the Word of God(Jesus,the Christ,Son of God)and NOT Having the Holy Spirit confirming and working THROUGH you,would be opposite or anti-of God's will.
Mark of Cain:
Ezekiel 9:4
"vehitvita tav al mitshlot ha ahashim"
'Vehitvita" means,"to make a mark"
"tav" a noun meaning "a mark", comes from the verb "tavah",the rest of the phrase means,"upon the foreheads of the men".
Two Suggestions:
1.The mark is not indicated
2.The mark could've been the last letter of the heb alpha:"tav"(a cross).
---char on 11/5/09


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---kathr4453 your statement
"Revelation speaks of the 144,000 having the seal/mark of God...." triggered off in my mind something I have heard before that namely the mark of God(which as you have said does not have to be physically visible to the eye) might well be, remember we are talking about Jews here, the ones who become believers in Christ and Christ's total security.
I know of no messianic Jews that are not OSAS.
---mima on 11/5/09


The suggestion of race is an American phenomenon pushed in the late 19th century by Satan and his princes of hate and division.
---larry on 11/4/09
Absolutely larry,

As a matter of fact Moses married an Etheopian(sp) woman.

The mark of cain can also be seen in contrast to those who have God's mark on them. Paul also stating in Galatians, he had the Marks of Jesus. These marks don't necessarily have to be visible to the eye.

Revelation speaks of the 144,000 having the seal/mark of God....

Then we also have teh mark of the beast. Will that be visible or is the hand and forehead symbolic?
---kathr4453 on 11/5/09


Trav .... "Adam's very name signify's caucasion persuasion"

Can you explain?

The only possible connection I can find is that "Adam's Needle" is a name for the Yucca, which "a plant of the agave family, with sword like leaves and spikes of white bell-shaped flowers, native to warm regions in US and Mexico" (Concise OED)

But presumably you will tell us why "Adam" signifies Caucasian

Thanks
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/5/09


Trav, its really time to get with God on the rage and hate in your heart for the president. There is no denying the obvious and at its heart its sin and rebellion against God's clear instruction for believers and their leaders (Kings).
BTW, the Audacity of Hope has only three sentences concerning schools in Indonesia, one Catholic the other Muslim.
The President's mother was ambivalent toward ANY religion telling him religion required no sustained commitment and was simply a reflection of human culture.
Some of this no doubt a reaction to the treatment she received from conservative Christians who condemned the 18-year old pale-skinned Brunette with a little brown baby.
---larry on 11/4/09


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There is no scriptural expository on how the mark appeared, its only evident that it was a warning that Cain was God's property. Cain said "my punishment is more than I can bear" and "I will live in constant danger of reprisal" to which the Lord responded, "No you won't." The point being that even the guilty man is God's property and such designations are entirely his providence. Cain was a murderer and so was David.
The suggestion of race is an American phenomenon pushed in the late 19th century by Satan and his princes of hate and division.
---larry on 11/4/09


Can any of Ishmael's descendents become Abraham's SPIRITUAL Children in Christ? Absolutely.
---kathr4453 on 11/4/09

Oh fearless one.
Post two Prophets actual verses stating "spiritual Children" for a change and I'll stand corrected.

15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

16So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
---Trav on 11/4/09


The child of Hagar Ishmael, the father of this group of wild men. Who obamanation identify's with/loves/caters too is connection you've missed...as Christian.
Genesis 16:12Trav***

Travelosity, ABRAHAM was Ishmael's father. However let's go back a few verses. God Promised Abraham a son. Sarah was to be the mother, not a surrogate.

Isaac was a MIRACLE Child, given to both when they were past age. ONLY God could do that!

Through Isaac would come the Messiah, God's Promised child! HINT!!

Can any of Ishmael's descendents become Abraham's SPIRITUAL Children in Christ? Absolutely.

To degrade a race based on their Genealogy is horrible, judging after the flesh. Jesus died for ALL flesh everywhere!
---kathr4453 on 11/4/09


Mima, has it occured to you that Adam, Eve & "every one" else (G4:13-15) were likely brown-skinned (tan, earthtone) people (huemans) & Cain's mark may've been albinism (whiteness)? :) Can you imagine how scary that would've been for all to see (a kind of a non-contageous leprosy "every one" may've tried to avoid, for fear of contamination, by all means)?

Personally, I don't think Cain's mark had anything to do with the superficiality of skin color. ---Leon on 11/4/09

It is unknown what the mark was. Adam's very name signify's caucasion persuasion. Leprously scary....aaaahhhhh. I mean haaaaaa. The first men that were created in Genesis 1 probably earthtone.
---Trav on 11/4/09


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Travis: You just stumbled thru the wrong door. :)
---Leon on 11/4/09


"...the mark of Cain was the blackest of the Negro!!" Mima, 11/2

This is typically the position of religiously astute morons. Since you've cunningly brought color into play Mima, has it occured to you that Adam, Eve & "every one" else (G4:13-15) were likely brown-skinned (tan, earthtone) people (huemans) & Cain's mark may've been albinism (whiteness)? :) Can you imagine how scary that would've been for all to see (a kind of a non-contageous leprosy "every one" may've tried to avoid, for fear of contamination, by all means)?

Personally, I don't think Cain's mark had anything to do with the superficiality of skin color. Cain characteristically was a big bully...
---Leon on 11/4/09


....Obviously, you know nothing about Islam.
---Cluny on 11/3/09

The child of Hagar Ishmael, the father of this group of wild men. Who obamanation identify's with/loves/caters too is connection you've missed...as Christian.
Genesis 16:12
And he will be a wild man, his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him, and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
The imposter says: My school in Indonesia was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
---Trav on 11/4/09


"Therefore the Lord set a mark upon Cain", some special sign. This was not a mark on Cain, nor was it, as Rabbi Joseph asserted, a long horn out of his forehead.....Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord. This is true both physically and spiritually. This portrays the direction of fallen and unsaved humanity. Into exile, without God, without hope in the world. What a sad commentary on the unsaved.
---catherine on 11/3/09


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"Behold, his erudition." Cluny, 11/2

Yes indeed, at the dictate of his personal demon, i.e., the so-called Angel Moron'.
---Leon on 11/3/09


\\But the official position of the Mormon Church used to be that the mark of Cain was the blackest of the Negro!!
---mima on 11/2/09\\

There were a lot of white Christian Southerners who believed that once upon a time, too. One of them was my own mother.

Joseph Smith claimed that Ham--or maybe it was Cain--married a black woman called "Egyptus."

Notice that he sticks the MASCULINE ending on a Latin word for an AFRICAN woman.

Behold, his erudition.
---Cluny on 11/2/09


Well, I have understood the mark the LORD put on Cain could have been a spiritual effect that kept people from killing him. But there could have been something physical and visible, but I'd say just an outward mark would not be able to stop someone from killing him. Let's see > the Hebrew word for "mark" in this scripture can mean a *signal* . . . which could be a spiritual signal that effected people when they met Cain or even saw him at a distance . . . from where they could not see a physical mark on his forehead, if there was one there > it does not say where the LORD set the mark. I'll bet each unique person would give you a different answer (o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 11/2/09


I do not know!!!

But the official position of the Mormon Church used to be that the mark of Cain was the blackest of the Negro!!
---mima on 11/2/09


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