Blotted Out Of Book Of Like
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Good going michelle, that is how I read too.
Isaiah 44:22: "I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me, for I have redeemed thee."
Pslms 69:28: "Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous."
Acts 3:19: "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord,"
Matthew 7:23: "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." This one is like Arnold Schwarzenegger in "Eraser", "You have been erased." |
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---Nana on 11/20/09 |
Miche, again, you have to go read what I wrote. Did I say no souls were been saved? No I didn't. Do not imply something not there. If you knew God, you would have known that God already finished the plan. That all of it is open to His eyes. That when He makes something it is alway right and just. That He knows the beginning and the end of all things. He does not learn through time every time someone is save. He already knows who is and who is not, who will come to Christ and who won't. The only reason you have trouble with Scriptures that seem to imply something is because you do not know the God of the Bible and when comparing passages you concluded He does not know, which is saying, our God is dumb or is learning like a child, His Omniscient. |
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---MarkV. on 11/20/09 |
Miche, 2 continue:
let me make something clear again before you get angry again.
When I say you do not know the God of the Bible I mean you have never studied who God is. By not sudying who He is you make many errors in your answers. You conclude many times, He is learning. Let me say He is not controlled by time. He is not increasing in knowledge. He knows all.
Then when you read a passage that seems to imply something you go for it and in doing so you compromise His deity or His nature or even His character. |
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---MarkV. on 11/20/09 |
If it's not there, it will never be there. - markv
Are you saying God doesn't save souls everyday?
If it was removed because of some action you did, then God would have made a mistake and He never makes mistakes. Only man make mistakes.
---MarkV. on 11/20/09
Man does make mistakes and they can come to Christ only to fall away. I thought that was what the great falling away is. People who were in the Book of life but were blotted out because they fell from Grace.
This verse tells me that they can be blotted out for not remaining and enduring with God.
Blotted means to remove or erase.
How could they be blotted out if they weren't written in it in the first place?
what you are saying makes no sense. |
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---michelle on 11/20/09 |
Michelle, what it means is that if you do not overcome, you are not an overcomer, and if not an overcomer, your name will not be listed in the book of life. All the names of every single overcomer is listed in that book. If it's not there, it will never be there. If its there it will always be in there. If it was removed because of some action you did, then God would have made a mistake and He never makes mistakes. Only man make mistakes. |
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---MarkV. on 11/20/09 |
"Dont live in daily torment.
Sancitification IS instantaneous.."
JackB
"For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." Who is perfected are those which ARE santified.
Jeremiah 4:4: "Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings." Thereafter comes the perfecting, yet even a serious foot washing (sin is no small matter) here and there is needed.
Yeah right, trying to climb any other way... |
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---Nana on 11/19/09 |
Dont live in daily torment.
Sancitification IS instantaneous..
Heb 10:10,14 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Rom 4:4-8 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Trying to climb the ladder to Heaven will land a man in the pit of hell. Unless you allow God in His wonderous mercy and grace to set you on the top rung himself. |
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---JackB on 11/19/09 |
Without Holiness, no man will see the LORD. Holiness means turning from sin and evil. Holiness involves loving GOD first and your neighbour as yourself. Holiness means loving Truth and disdaining evil and sin, no matter how pleasurable or attractive it is. Heaven is a Place for people who have learned to love GOD and man, and learned to live righteously before GOD. This involves time, and is a process. Santification is not instantaneous, it is a daily surrender to YAHUSHUA (JESUS). It is a daily decision to "crucify the flesh nature", and to follow the Spirit. I myself have not "arrived", but, this is my Goal. If a Christian deliberately chooses to hang on to a pet sin, it will be enough to land him or her in Hell at death. |
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---Gordon on 11/18/09 |
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony, and they loved not their lives unto the death.
It takes a humble heart willing to place your faith solely in the blood of Jesus Christ to overcome Satan and the world. Gods grace is the only thing we can boast of. |
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---JackB on 11/15/09 |
The bowing of the knee and the confession of the tongue that Jesus Christ is Lord will take place at the great white throne judgment where the resurrected wicked will be judged and sent to the lake of fire. |
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---mima on 11/11/09 |
Yes, that is the same thing. When God says, the repented obedient will not be condemned, that is the same thing as, the nonrepented disobedient will be condemned. |
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---Eloy on 11/11/09 |
Samuel ,How will they will recognize an "exact amount of punishment" ? They will never be resurected to know.They will never regain consciousness.There will never be a skip in memory like one may naturally die of old age or go to sleep for they will never regain that memory that belonged to them.They are as though as they never was. |
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---earl on 11/11/09 |
Many good points.
The resurrected wicked will proclaim before they perish that GOD was correct and bow down to them. Then they will be destroyed in the lake of fire. Each will recieve the exact amount of punishment they deserve. |
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---Samuel on 11/11/09 |
"Does this mean that if we don't overcome, we will be blotted out of the Book of Life?" Yes.
Therefore recognize just what it means to overcome, and just what it is that we are overcoming.
"whatsoever is born of God overcomes the world:" and "Who is he that overcomes the world, but he that believes that Jesus is the Son of God?"
For "Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwells in him, and he in God.
You are of God, little children, and have overcome them: [those who oppose Christ, and who you are in Christ] because greater is He that is in you, than 'he' [that Wicked One] that is in the world, and this is the victory that overcomes the world, [even] our faith." |
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---joseph on 11/11/09 |
1stcliff,
I was only quicker with the pen.Thanks. |
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---earl on 11/3/09 |
Earl, I couldn't have said it better!
Problem lies in the erroneous belief in the "immortality of the soul" Nice answer! |
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---1st_cliff on 11/2/09 |
The registry book of life for our world contains all living beings that are created in God's image.You might say it is a registry.It is as it is a book of life-those who are of the living.
Complete personality extinction occurs when at roll call one is blotted out from the book-.This also is known as to perish as in Jo.3.16.
To be blotted out is permanent,the judgement is final and the personality ceases to exist in personality,conscoiusness or any human like or non human like form.
The personality will never see hell because the person is blotted out of existance. |
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---earl on 11/2/09 |
You got it right! |
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---Pierre on 11/2/09 |
The answer to your question depends on what you belive "Book of Life" means.
Is it a literal book, or collection of books, in heaven?
Are they scrolls or codices?
Or is this a figure of speech? |
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---Cluny on 11/2/09 |
I believe he that does not overcometh will be the blotted out of the book of life. Go to hell.
But let these verses and first John comfort you. "4-For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5-Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?" |
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---mima on 11/2/09 |
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