Well, tom2 said it real well. |
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---catherine on 11/14/09 |
Having Eloy's exchange with 1st Cliff, it strikes me that if Heaven is physically above each of us, it will be well spread out. And it would mean that while I would ascend up from my home in the UK, Warwick would ascend up from Australia. We would be going in opposite directions, and would never be able to meet.
I don't think this idea od Heaven being a mantle surrounding the earth can re right.
It would also mean that those who are lost would descend downwards, to Hell ... but the centre of the Earth is already full of material ... there would not be much space left for all the lost.
No, I don't think either Heaven or Hell have a physical geographical location relating to the earth |
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---alan8566_of_uk on 11/14/09 |
yep,and so is hell. |
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---tom2 on 11/13/09 |
"does it really matter as long as we will be eternally with our savior?"
That Casey, is the Heaven of our existence at the moment we yield ourselves to the mental ascension that is in the embracing the fact that He is not only with us, He is within those of us who recognize and acknowledge His presence, and where He resides, is Heaven.
He has given the believer the awesome privilege of being, at this present time, seated spiritually with Him, on His throne, in that Heavenly place. |
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---Josef on 11/9/09 |
Yes Heaven is where The Father resides on His throne |
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---Rhonda on 11/8/09 |
does it really matter as long as we will be eternally with our savior? |
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---Casey on 11/8/09 |
1st clif, Come on Cliff, up is the opposite of down, top is the opposite of bottom high is the opposite of low. The Lord God Jesus is the Most High God, high and lifted up. It would make no sense to say he is up lifted down, or the Most Low God, no, not by any means. Look up for your redemption draws nigh, it is not look down. |
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---Eloy on 11/8/09 |
"Is Heaven an actual place?"
If one considers the space immediately above us and/or outer-space a place, Yes.
Other than that, Heaven is a state, as in a state of mind and/or being that transcends the sensual.
Tangibly "God called the firmament (visible arch of the aerial which locks in our atmosphere.) Heaven." Which, as concerning this question, can include the limited portion of the vast expanse of the sidereal visible to us by whatever means available.
To call "Heaven" His abode, other than as a reference to His state of Being, is to limit Him to something that is contained within Him. Father inhabits eternity, and The heaven, and The heaven of heavens cannot contain Him. 2Ch 6:18 >Isa 57:15 |
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---Josef on 11/8/09 |
Eloy, "Up" to us is "down" to those in Austrailia, and vice-versa....which way is "Up" Eloy??? |
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---1st_cliff on 11/7/09 |
Yes the so-called "third heaven" mentioned only once in scripture is where you will spend the afterlife.
It is the place of praise and worship and home for celestial beings. |
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---larry on 11/7/09 |
God's Spirit is omnipresent, in all places at all times, nevertheless his home is in Heaven localized "above", and hell is localized to "below". Elijah was carried up from off the earth to heaven, Jesus ascended physically up to heaven where he came down, when Christ returns the skys will be parted as a scroll, and the trumpet of God will sound, and every eye will look upon him whom they have pierced. Yes, although heaven is inside of us true Christians, the physical location is above, localized upwards over our head and over the earth. |
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---Eloy on 11/7/09 |
"But the contexts clearly say that we're not supposed to localize God even to heaven."
---Cluny on 11/6/09
John 17:21: "That they all may be one, as thou, Father, art'> in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." |
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---Nana on 11/7/09 |
Yes heaven is an actual place. Also hell is an actual place, and eath is an actual place too. |
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---Eloy on 11/6/09 |
Yes, Heaven is a real Place. It is sometimes referred to as the "Third Heaven". It is where GOD's Throne sits. It is where the Saints of GOD, who have passed on, dwell. That is the "New Jerusalem", the City of GOD and His holy Saints. Gates of Pearl, Streets of pure Gold, Structures like Jasper. Nothing sinful, evil, nor unholy is present there, nor ever will be. Only Peace, Love, Joy, Happiness, Rest, Music, Beauty, Water, Food, Relationships and more. |
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---Gordon on 11/6/09 |
\\ The bible tells us "Heaven is my home and earth is my footstool." \\
Actually, the verse is "Heaven is my THRONE...."
Isaiah 66:1, Acts 7:49
But the contexts clearly say that we're not supposed to localize God even to heaven. |
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---Cluny on 11/6/09 |
It sure is. The last chapter of Rev. talks about it. |
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---amand6348 on 11/6/09 |
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yes,I go to prepare a place for you,so that where Iam you may be also.Thats what jesus said to the apostles,and he told the thief on the cross,today you will be with me in paradise. |
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---tom2 on 11/5/09 |
The bible tells us "Heaven is my home and earth is my footstool."
Yes, Heaven is an actual place. It's God's home. |
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---Donna on 11/5/09 |
It's an actual place, but I don't believe it can be located in this present physical universe. |
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---Cluny on 11/5/09 |
Absolutely!!!! And it is be too grand and wonderful for natural human lips to describe.
Here I have my Franklin and biblical dictionary and commentary with me as I try to drown myself in the word. In heaven all of this will be unnecessary, effort will be a thing of the past, instant accessibility to all knowledge will be ours, that we'll be something! I cry out praise the Lord many times a day here on earth but in heaven the praises of God will flow freely, continuously, and fervently!!!!!
Glory hallelujah to the name of the lamb. |
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---mima on 11/5/09 |
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