//1 John 5:3 And hereby we know we know him, IF WE keep his :commandments.
The problem here is that Biblical expositors will tell us the commandments John was referring to was not the 10 commandments given on Mt. Sinai, but the two he mentioned in 1 John 3:22-24 namely 1) to believe in the name of His son Jesus Christ and 2) to love one another.
This also makes sense if scripture is to be interpreted by scripture as we read in Romans 13:10 that love of neighbor is the fulfillment of the law.
One needs to read the Scripture in context, otherwise one would have to keep the Jewish sabbath- a commandment that has nothing to do with love of neighbor nor commanded of Gentile converts or even mandated by the early church writers. |
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---Lee1538 on 11/25/09 |
2 Timothy 3, written by Paul 45 to 65 yrs INTO CHURCH AGE:
16 Every SCRIPTURE is God breathed, and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for discipline which is in: RIGHTEOUSNESS:
The goal Righteousness:
Paul said that every scripture is God breathed for what?
FOR CORRECTION,DISCIPLINE
Since there was no NT when He wrote this teachings.
What is good for CORRECTION, TEACHING?
The Old Testament.
But dont call it that. Did Paul, or any of the Apostles? No!
Not even Christ. Shouldnt we follow His/their example:
Call it Word, Law and The Prophets, Scripture, Torah, even Christ did, incorrectly it has been taught to you as Old Testament |
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---Paul9594 on 11/25/09 |
1pet 2:9-But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, ...
Titus 2:14- ...redeem us from all iniquity, purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.---metuschelah on 11/18/09
Well GOD can do what he wants to do he is GOD.
You did a nice job of utilizing witnesses. 2 Old Covenant and 2 New Covenant. If you slow down just a little bit you will notice they all same the same thing about same people. Some additional marks/signs/clues are in these verses. Redeem=to buy back something previously your own. Chosen= hand picked out of existing. Peculiar=Special. Holy=separate. Royal=ISRAEL=RULING with GOD. Priesthood...well you get it. Heb 8:8,Jer31:31. |
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---Trav on 11/18/09 |
maybe if we studied Romans 9, 10 And 11, we might better see the difference in Israel as a nation And the Church as the Body of Christ
---michael_e on 11/18/09
Some do and you might. The only difference is widowhood. And laws in heart now. Throw in a penitent mind. Romans is a good place to find truth. Renew the mistranslated word Gentile to what is should be Nations or ethnos and a light might shine. Step over to Heb 8:8 then find out why Jeremiah would prophecy such in 31:31. Sneak peek, (but don't admit it) Jer 3:14 on the marriage statement, concordance divorce and you might glimpse the chruch as a body is Entire House of Israel who lost her married name. Might read Matt 15:24 for sheep supper. Then Heb8:10 to sleep on. |
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---Trav on 11/18/09 |
Ps 135:4- For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, [and] Israel for his peculiar treasure.
Deut 14:2- For thou [art] an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that [are] upon the earth.
1pet 2:9-But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Titus 2:14- Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
ALL WHO ARE SAVED whether hebrew or other nationality. |
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---metuschelah on 11/18/09 |
maybe if we studied Romans 9, 10 And 11, we might better see the difference in Israel as a nation And the Church as the Body of Christ |
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---michael_e on 11/18/09 |
The Apostle John knowing the SAME gospel standards per Christ applies for the WORLD not just Jew/Israelites teaches:
2 and HE is the propitiation for our :sins, and not for :ours only, but also for
the WHOLE WORLD.
3 And hereby we know that we know him, IF WE keep his :commandments.
4 Who saith that I know him, and keepeth not his :commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in this man,
5 but whoso keepeth his :word, in him hath truly the love of :God been perfected. Hereby
You starting point, the 10 commandments placed IN THE ARK of the covenant illustrating the core of your covenant with faith in Christ, walk after this, not apostasy. |
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---Paul9594 on 11/17/09 |
Trav
The only place where me and you differ on romans 2:29- is that I take it as there is no more physical jewish people as the apple of God's eye, why you ask, because they were never the people of god's eye ... ---metuschelah on 11/14/09
Word is swayed. But, the issue is: First you prophecy falsely.
Second,you do not understand the relationship GOD had with this 13 nationed people.
Deuteronomy 14:2
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all nations that are upon earth.
We only agreed that Judah does not = all nations of Israel.
You are jealous of the divorced wife. Common. Most are. |
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---Trav on 11/16/09 |
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There is one law for the Jew and the Gentile, this is from YHVH through Moshe and the Prophets . You are grafted in to the Nation of Ysrael, and are to walk the way Yeshua walked, He kept Torah and so should all who say they love Him. Yeshua said, Why do you call me Lord Lord and do not what I tell you. This is christianity since the 3rd century. You have forsaken YHVH and His Moshiach, but dont really care. How can you say you love Him with all your heart yet despise His Laws????? Oh thats right you run to Paul, even though you cannot explain the outright contradictions Paul makes. |
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---wayne on 11/16/09 |
TRAV -
(from your mouth- on 'who are the real jews' blog) on 9/25/09, trav you said "Metuschelah partly correct. No debating Romans 2:29" The same verse I use on this blog, but now I'm Blind, Your the one with blinders on my friend and being swade by the winds of doctrine on this site. |
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---metuschelah on 11/14/09 |
(HERE I AM MAKING A COMMENT ON 'Is remmarriage accepted by god')
Part1-I'm tired of hearing that the physical Jewish person is who the old testament was talking to. Who is a jew, (Rom 2:29)"But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly, and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter, whose praise [is] not of men, but of God".---metuschelah on 9/29/09
(HERE YOU ARE AGREEING WITH ME)
I'm like you, I'm tired of hearing jew as being all Israel. It wasn't. In the new testament the house of Israel and Judah are seperated by divorce. And will be reunited by a New Covenant. Heb 8:8 and Revelations last chapter.
Trav on 10/8/09 |
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---metuschelah on 11/14/09 |
Trav
The only place where me and you differ on romans 2:29- is that I take it as there is no more physical jewish people as the apple of God's eye, why you ask, because they were never the people of god's eye because all along when God was talking about the Jews/Israel/Jacob/, it was always talking about believers whether of jewish descant or other nationality, the physical jewish people at one time was a representation/parable of something else but not the very image Hbr 10:1- although talking about the law it also meant the people too. |
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---metuschelah on 11/14/09 |
TRAV, if you think i'm blind then PLEASE PLEASE pray for me.LOL. I think your the one that is blind , please stop commenting on me, because you can keep pointing fingers and call me a false prophet and what not, but i guest so did the pharisees and scribes in jesus's days ....---metuschelah on 11/13/09
I don't think you are... scripture proves that you are. If scripture is pressuring you....then you might pray and reconsider the danger.
I try to keep the personal element out of my post. Sometimes fail.
Pray....for what? You to follow scripture? If I do ....you will be a silent false prophet. |
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---Trav on 11/13/09 |
TRAV (Jer 30:11) "For I am with thee, saith LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee,
1.you were high-fiving me,
2.your view on this verse change.
3. you are being swade by the winds of doctrines on this blog site.
4. The day I hear what you ever have to say will be the day cats live under water.
---metuschelah on 11/13/09
1. You've confused me with another.
2. Couldn't/wouldn't change truth. It is the same view about one people GOD married/divorced/widowed.
3. Spirit of GOD only wind that moves my sail.
4. I suspected. GOD only can heal the deaf/blind/lame or make cat live under water. Now a Cat Fish can. |
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---Trav on 11/13/09 |
TRAV, if you think i'm blind then PLEASE PLEASE pray for me.LOL. I think your the one that is blind , please stop commenting on me, because you can keep pointing fingers and call me a false prophet and what not, but i guest so did the pharisees and scribes in jesus's days and they called him all kinds of names and finally killed him, actually keep calling me what you want because you can't see truth, I suppose i'm in great company. |
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---metuschelah on 11/13/09 |
TRAV (Jer 30:11) "For I am with thee, saith LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: I will correct thee in measure, will not leave thee altogether unpunished". It is speaking of saving the nation believers in christ whether hebrew descant or other nationality. Trav you seem to not remember which side you are on, because when I used this same verse (rom 2:29) on a similar blog, you were high-fiving me, but then as you were instructed by more bloggers, your view on this verse change. Seems to me that you are being swade by the winds of doctrines on this blog site. The day I hear what you ever have to say will be the day cats live under water. |
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---metuschelah on 11/13/09 |
The Law of God was given to all mankind, simply entrusted to the children of Israel, to be demonstrated to all men.
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable [to all] for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" Written in earlier times for the instruction of all mankind, "so that through perseverance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope."
The statutes and ordinances by the hand of Moses, written on parchment, given to govern His chosen nation has been nailed to the cross, and His Law, written upon tablets of stone has been transferred to the tablets of man's heart and still governs the behavior of His chosen, the light of the world. |
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---joseph on 11/9/09 |
Of course there is a difference. Do you think God meant to require circumcision for everyone? Do you think He meant that no body should marry outside their tribe?
The very reason for these requirements were to distinguish the Jews from other peoples of the same region... to "separate" then unto Him.
No one else was instructed to celebrate passover, or required to make blood sacrifices for sin. The Levitical priesthood was unique to the Hebrews.
When Jesus came, He extended His mercy to the Gentiles...but He never required of them all the ceremonial laws of the Jews. |
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---Donna66 on 11/6/09 |
part 1
No, there is no difference, in actuality when the bible refer to Jews or Israel it's direct audience are not the physical Jewish people, in fact it is speaking to believers ----metuschelah on 11/6/09
You are teaching...but, you don't know what. You have same blinders on that I used to wear. I recognize them. Don't want em back. Prophets removed mine, with the thousands of times former wife is mentioned....and that she is clean now. To be remarried. Heb8:8.
11For I am with thee, saith LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: I will correct thee in measure, will not leave thee altogether unpunished.
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---Trav on 11/6/09 |
part 1
No, there is no difference, in actuality when the bible refer to Jews or Israel it's direct audience are not the physical Jewish people, in fact it is speaking to believers in christ which can also be a physical jew, those who keeps his commandments (Rom 2:28-29) "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly, neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly, and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter, whose praise [is] not of men, but of God". |
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---metuschelah on 11/6/09 |
No, there isn't a difference, EVERYONE needs a Savior and His Name is Jesus.
Everyone needs to repent of their sins in order to be saved from the wrath of God and from going to hell.
Everyone needs to turn from their evil wicked ways, from their pride, bitterness, unforgiveness and turn to Jesus and receive the shed blood of Jesus for forgiveness for their sins.
EVERYONE needs a Savior, His name is Jesus. No difference what race you are, what color or tribe you are, it's the same gospel for all. |
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---Donna on 11/6/09 |
About the Jews, we have > "What advantage then has the Jew, or what is the profit of circumcision? Much in every way! Chiefly because to them were committed the oracles of God." > Romans 3:1-2 > see with Romans 9:1-5. And Jesus started with His twelve Apostles who were Jews. But what has come to them has now been coming to us who are not Jews. The cup has been running over, with what has been in their cup > "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." (Galatians 3:28) |
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---Bill_bila5659 on 11/6/09 |
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