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Meet-Ups In Houston Texas

We'd like to organize some "meet-ups" in the Houston area for people who consider themselves as part of the faithful remnant in our days (no particular denomination). Would anyone here be interested? If there is enough interest, we can follow-up with a post that has a time and place.

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Cluny I am not saying anything. All I did was to take what the Bible says and put it into modern USA language. As for only Jews called remnant,the Bible shows there are Gentiles under grace called remnant by Paul himself. Romans 11:5,11,13 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.--:but rather through their(Israel) fall salvation has come unto the Gentiles,for to provoke them to jealousy. For I speak to you Gentiles,in-as-much as I am the apostle of the Gentiles,I magnify my office. Revelations 12:17 meaning of remnant,-which keep the commandments of God,and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
---Darlene_1 on 11/19/09


Cluny ... That "Alan" was not me
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/19/09


Cluny, I believe Christians can easily determine who is commited. For example I can tell you are VERY commited to a form of religion which aims to tear down Christians with your constant acidic comments that do not edify the Body of Christ.
---Alan on 11/19/09


\\I was trying to be optimistic that the folks who want to get together (remnant) are looking for committed believes, and nothing more.

I do suggest that many people who go to "church" are not very committed to Christ. Althought, that's God's business, not mine.\\

In other words, you are looking for people who are up to the same rarefied exalted spiritual level you believe yourself to be.

As you yourself has said, that's God's business to decide, not yours.

I really doubt you can see into other people's hearts to determine their level of commitment.
---Cluny on 11/19/09


Cluny, I am not sure what you are referring to. Apparently I didn't explain myself well.

I am not joining up with any "remnant."

What you asked was my same observation/question in a previous reply of mine to this issue, and that is as you ask, "And are you assuming that others who don't want to join up with you are not committed followers of Christ?"

I agree with your question.

I was trying to be optimistic that the folks who want to get together (remnant) are looking for committed believes, and nothing more.

I do suggest that many people who go to "church" are not very committed to Christ. Althought, that's God's business, not mine.
---Rod4Him on 11/18/09




\\Hopefully, the orignal goal of the remenant getting together with other committed believers was the ultimate aim without meaning to insult other follows of Christ.
---Rod4Him on 11/18/09\\

And are you assuming that others who don't want to join up with you are not committed followers of Christ?

|| Putting the faithful Remnant in perspective it is a nonelite group,sold out to God through Jesus.||

Darlene1, is this to say that those who do not like the prideful self-conferred moniker "remnant" are not sold out to God through Christ?

I think that God Himself knows best who constitute His "remnant"--whom the Bible consistently identifies as Jews.
---Cluny on 11/18/09


Anyway you look at it there is always going to be somebody that is closer to God, Somebody that is taking the kingdom violently. Using more than just their lip service. Not burying their talent in the ground or saying my Lord delays his coming, cross bearers, following Jesus into the regeneration enduring to the end and overcoming the gainsayers and the faith destroyers,rising above the ones that do not want the power or the changed life.
---exzucuh on 11/18/09


Putting the faithful Remnant in perspective it is a nonelite group,sold out to God through Jesus. Revelations 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman,and went to make war on a remnant of her seed,which keep the commandments of God,and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Remnant,7000 Jews God kept for himself who hadn't bowed to Baal. Paul said in Romans there was a remnant then who were under grace,there's a remnant at the end of world and there's always a remnant who follow no other than God by following the teaching of his son Jesus. They are commited to God,living holy,and being a Spiritual witness for the Kingdom of God. They don't go to left or right but keep on the straight and narrow. You will know them by their love of God and mankind.
---Darlene_1 on 11/18/09


Great example Strongaxe.

Hopefully, the orignal goal of the remenant getting together with other committed believers was the ultimate aim without meaning to insult other follows of Christ.
---Rod4Him on 11/18/09


This whole business of claiming to be part of a "faithful remnant" is nothing more than the ancient heresy of Gnosticism.

The Gnostics, too, thought they had a secret "IT" that was not given to the ordinary believer in Christ.
---Cluny on 11/18/09




exzucuh:

I personally have nothing against people getting together, nor do I have anything against what the Holy Spirit is doing. I was just pointing out the dangers of pride that can happen when people use certain exclusionary language.

In an unrelated example, consider a breakfast cereal that has the label "Contains no cancer-causing phosphates". While this statement is certainly true, it also falsely implies that other cereals DO contain such chemicals, giving the false impression "ours is therefore better than theirs".
---StrongAxe on 11/18/09


MarkV, I hope you are right. I started off hoping for the best,however Dru's last description seemed different than his first, which was confusing.

I agree with the concept, and maybe Dru is saying the same thing I have been trying to communicate. And that is, I pick on the "pastor and the institutionalized church" because it pacifies the masses, which creates the "low level of commitment."

That's why I suggested different wording, "Perhaps looking for people who are committed to Christ and are not confortable being a spectator."

Maybe I am dicing words. I too am looking for those people who have given their lives to Christ without reservation.
---Rod4Him on 11/18/09


Rod4him, I believe what Dru is saying is that they want Christians that are serious. Lets be real, there is many who are not serious. Many who don't show one bit of a change in their lives yet call themselves Christians. I believe that is what Dru meant. People that really love the Lord and want to do special things others would never want to do. And let me tell you there is many that don't want to do a thing but just be a part of the group. That is what I think he means. I didn't take anything he said wrong, because I wasn't looking for anything wrong. Just my opinion.
---MarkV. on 11/18/09


Gainsayers should all get together and be their own remnant and they then can condemn and discredit the work of the holy Spirit to their hearts content. They should take a CPR class for those that choke on all those gnats.
---exzucuh on 11/17/09


Dru, you are now describing better what you were apparently trying to describe, but that's not what you said.

If you had said that you were looking for who have a very high commitment level wanting to find other people like that, that would have been easier to understand.

However, you seem to have a chip on your shoulder pointing the finger at others thinking they think they are better than your group, when you are doing the same thing you accuse others of.

How do you know others' level of commitment to Christ? Based on if they had a high level of commitment, they would be part of your group?

Who is saying they agree with the status quo?!!
---Rod4Him on 11/17/09


We're concerned about the dilution of the gospel that seems to be a trend in modern evangelicalism, and the low level of commitment that is considered normal. I am not surprised to hear people say that someone who dislikes the status quo is acting arrogant or superior - people always say that, in every context (religious or not), about people who go against the grain. (i.e., How dare they? They think they're better than us?). Churchgoers span a wide range of commitment levels and consistency, and there is nothing wrong with the people who are have a very high commitment level wanting to find other people like that.
---Dru on 11/17/09


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Dru ... (faithful remnant),

But what does it mean??

You do seem to be saying it is some special kind of Christian.
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/17/09


\\We do not believe those are the only two options (sectarianism or mediocrity), \\

There a third option.

Your thinking yourselves spiritually superior to those whom you consider mediocre.
---Cluny on 11/17/09


Dru, I am sorry if I am missing understanding the term "remnant," and you seem quite set on it.

It comes across as if a person is not the "type" of person that remnant resonates with, then that person isn't quite the "remnant" and won't belong and probably isn't committed to Christ.

I hope I am missunderstanding, but this comes across quite elitist.

If you are looking for people who are struggling to grow in the institutional church, that may be another issue.

Perhaps looking for people who are committed to Christ and are not confortable being a spectator. umm. Something seems off.
---Rod4Him on 11/17/09


Response 1... We are trying to find a particular type of person, believers for whom the idea of remnant would resonate internally, who perhaps feel alone in their concerns about the status quo of modern evangelicalism. We have plenty of churchgoing friends and acquaintances who would instantly bristle at the phrase (faithful remnant), like most of the respondents here. We know that many mainstream churchgoers would feel that sectarianism is a worse evil than spiritual mediocrity, and that believing otherwise is some kind of heresy. We do not believe those are the only two options (sectarianism or mediocrity), but we were hoping to meet other people in our area who are really serving Christ wholeheartedly and share our concerns.
---Dru on 11/17/09


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Response 2...We assume that most of the people we meet like this will be active and committed in a church or group already, and are not looking to switch churches but we would still like to get to know them. We are not merely recruiting. Also, we do not believe that only one church or group is the faithful remnant, or that only one doctrinal position determines whether one is part of a faithful remnant. I thought that was reasonably explicit in the initial query that I posted, sorry.
---Dru on 11/17/09


Dru ... as I said before I'm a continent away from you, but it would still be helpful to me, and I suspect others, if you could define just what you mean by "faithful remnant", as opposed to "Christian"
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/17/09


Response 3- In some ways, it is helpful when people unambiguously declare that they do NOT identify with the term remnant, because it signals to us that we should look elsewhere. We are really searching for people who are harder to find and we suspect they also have trouble finding others who can relate to them and encourage them.

We have not planned any specific event yet, as we were seeing what kind of interest we could garner first. We will keep searching for ways to meet serious, kindhearted believers from our area. God bless you.
---Dru on 11/17/09


Dru that sounds like a great idea. I am in Texas and if I wasn't disabled I might well have been there. Many years ago I attended a Women Aglow Fellowship Internatioal Meeting,it was wonderful,and by the way,in Houston. Women of many denominations from all over the world coming together to love our Lord God. One lady from oversas wanted to come badly but didn't have the money,as she stood at the kitchen sink she looked out over the land and there on a hill was a cow at pasture. She said God you own the cattle on a thousand hills,please give me just one so I can go. God did exactly that,gave her a cow,she sold it for enough to make the trip. Sharing like that builds anyones faith.
---Darlene_1 on 11/17/09


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Karen D, you said as most of understand, and if you understand why are you still laughing? You expect the unbelievers to laugh and you are laughing yourself. Don't wait for someone to jump on his talents, be aware someone jump on your statement first.
with your answer you try to bring criticism to his talents, just not right. when all he wanted was to meet christian people.
---Bobby1 on 11/17/09


I live in Alabama but I was born in Bryan Texas
raised in Normangee Texas. I am in Texas right Now only 120 miles North of Houston. My grand Parents lived in Houston 50 years in the Heights. I spent many years there myself. I was there during the charismatic movement and went to the Charles and Francis Hunter meetings. Francis has went to be with the Lord. I know well what this man means by remnant and also I know of his hunger to meet with people of like same Faith. May the Lord bless his efforts. I know if he can do this thing God will move and he could be the start of something new to bring revival and repentance.
---exzucuh on 11/17/09


Moderator...Thank you for being honest with us on this one. I'm still laughing at what a non-believer might think about a lawyer who is also a "tent maker" which, of course, most of understand. Now I am waiting for the other responses on this multi-talented guy (lawyer, theologian, tent marker, professor). Which is it?
---KarenD on 11/16/09


I live about 400 mi. from Houston and drive there occasionally. As I said on 10/10

//I see nothing wrong with people getting together to share their lives in Christ.
Many Christians feel Jesus will be returning soon. I think the "remnant" (whatever size) IS comprised of people from many denominations. And "faithful" doesn't mean the same thing as "holy" or better than
others, it only means determined to stay true to Jesus and to continue to grow in Him//

I would enjoy a get-together but couldn't come often.
---Donna66 on 11/16/09


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why are people so threatened? Remnant, obviously, was an inartfully chosen word, but we wanted to send a call out to those Christians who are serious about their faith. We are not JWs. We are completely devoted to Christ, and want to live for Him. Period. Our aim is to be used by the Lord to GET PEOPLE SAVED. Last night, we had the opportunity to lead someone to the Lord. That is what we live for, and it would be nice to have some team members. Hence the post. --[Dru's wife]
---mb on 11/16/09


I live about 400 mi. from Houston and drive there occasionally. As I said on 10/10

//I see nothing wrong with people getting together to share their lives in Christ.
Many Christians feel Jesus will be returning soon. I think the "remnant" (whatever size) IS comprised of people from many denominations. And "faithful" doesn't mean the same thing as "holy" or better than
others, it only means determined to stay true to Jesus and to continue to grow in Him//
---Donna66 on 11/16/09


Thanks, 1st cliff, interesting...

I hadn't heard that terminology before.

Dru, what is up? Most of us here are up to learning, I think. But one needs to know what they are talking about because we need to be able to support our belief systems.
---Rod4Him on 11/16/09


This proposal would be of no interst to me since I live a quarter or a third of the world away from Houston.

But I came across the blog and various comments that have been made.

I have to say that the use of the term "faithful remnant" did seem to me to indicate some exclusivity, and that it was some sort of special Christian who is included.

I did not know what Cliff now says about the JWs but it does tend to support my initial feeling of this term.
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/16/09


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The term "Remnant" is very familiar to all JWs
They believe that the Remnant are the last of the 144,000 remaining on earth, destined for heaven to rule as kings and priests with Christ for the 1,000 yr.period.
The rest of believers are simply called "Other Sheep".
The Remnant are the only ones who take the bread and wine at Communion (once a year) at Passover!
Strange part is only "they" know who they are!
They were all supposed to be of the 1914-1918 generation. (that generation is dead) but somehow they still have some "Remnant??" FYI
---1st_cliff on 11/16/09


Hi Karen,

Yes, we are in the Houston area and our CEO met Dru and encouraged him to post a blog here. Dru is a Wheaton graduate in theology and a Yale Attorney. He is a tentmaker as a Law professor in Houston and was just looking for additional ways to meet Believers in the area beyond the church setting.

I hope the comments in this section have not discouraged him from wanting to bring Believers together.
---Moderator on 11/16/09


MarkV. where do you live? I live near Sacramento in Sonora near Yosemite.

I wondered if Dru didn't really know what he was asking and just wanted fellowship.

I have found that fellowship is extremely lacking in the institutionized church.
---Rod4Him on 11/16/09


Moderator...Isn't ChristiaNet in the Houston area? Is this "pastor" affiliated with CN?
---KarenD on 11/16/09


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Dru, I wish I lived in Texas just to go to the meeting. I would have liked that very much. I hope others that live close by can make it. I go to a special meetings too in Sacrament about 50 miles from here, just to meet with many brothers and sisters from many denominations. We get sometimes John MacArthur, or R.C. Sproul to come, other times other great brothers and sisters come and they are great, and we seat and eat together and converse among us.
---MarkV. on 11/16/09


Exzucuh and Mark. Thanks for bringing some common sense to this blog. The poor fellow that posted this blog is a Pastor just trying to have some fellowship with other Believers in the area. I believe the negative attitude has probably discouraged him of the idea as he has yet to reply.
---Moderator on 11/16/09


Stongaxe get that Nat out of your throat before you choke on it.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

You want every one to be nothing. If all are nothing then the sin will not be noticed. If every one is drunk no one notices, but if only one is drunk he stands out as a nuisance. No, No, that is not how it works in the Kingdom of God. Many are called but few are chosen and the chosen reveal the darkness by the light that is in them.
---exzucuh on 11/16/09


exzucuh:

That's my point. You CAN'T tell what kind of fruit people have just by their names. Unfortunately, when people use exclusionary terms, they ASK you to judge them by their names alone. For example, if a group calls themselves "The True Church of Christ", "true" implies that one should distinguish them from other churches which AREN'T true. That's fine for those who ARE true, but those who AREN'T may well lie and say the same thing.

When I get an email that says "Certified virus free", how can I know if that's a virus scanner's seal of approval, or if it's a virus lying and pretending to be safe? I must ignore any such claims, and judge it solely on its own merits (i.e. by scanning it myself).
---StrongAxe on 11/16/09


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Why does everyone go haywire for a simple question? "the faithful remnant in our days" means just that. Remnant= A minority of humanity that has remained faithful to the Lord in every age since the fall of Adam. In Elijah's day it was seven thousand people who had not been corrupted by Baal worship (1Kings 19:18, Romans 11:1-5). In Isaah's day it was "very small" ( Isa. 1:9). Today it is composed of members of the true Church (Romans 11:4,5). In the tribulation time it will be the 144,000 Israelites (Rev. 7:3-8). and a great number of Gentiles (Rev. 7:9).
---MarkV. on 11/16/09


exzucuh:

It is one thing to call oneself Christian (i.e. one who follows Christ). This is an inclusive term that embraces the entire Body of Christ. It is another thing to call oneself "remnant" which is generally an exclusionary term (i.e. "of all Christians, I'm one of the few genuine ones, and you're not"). Unfortunately, many people use "Christian" this way as well.

Similar nuances apply to terms like "God's chosen", etc. For example, this may be used by people God specifically chooses to do a task (like an apostle or prophet - I believe Paul used it this way), but many false teachers use such terms as well, as do many genuine believers who nevertheless have delusions of self-importance.
---StrongAxe on 11/16/09


Strongaxe how can you tell the kind of fruit these people have in their lives by them writing on a blog the word remnant?
---exzucuh on 11/16/09


2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

There are people who call themselves christian
that do not have the divine nature through the Holy Spirit, they Are lip service Christians. They honor Christ with their lips but their hearts are far from him. Meaning they do not take up their cross and they do not separate themselves as disciples. They do not lay down their lives and they do not consider themselves the body of Christ. These people are not the remnant they are tares.
---exzucuh on 11/15/09


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Then why call yourself a christian,Warwick? You can apply that the same as what you are saying about people who call themselves the remnant. Jesus did not name us Christians the Romans did. Christians originally referred to themselves as being in the way. Will you attack them for calling themselves people of the way. You people are the ones that are being ridiculous.
---exzucuh on 11/15/09


I meant to say strongaxe rather than warwick some of you people I cannot distiquish, you all sound the same.
---exzucuh on 11/15/09


exzucuh:

I never said that people should do nothing. I was merely pointing out that when people make a point of calling themselves "remnant", "people of God", "chosen of God", or any other such exclusive term, as often as not (or even more so), such claims are presumptuous and premature.

Jesus said "by their fruits you shall know them" (Matthew 7:16-20). NOT "by what they call themselves you shall know them".

He also said those who humble themselves would be exalted, while those who exalt themselves would be abased (Matthew 23:12, Luke 14:11).
---StrongAxe on 11/15/09


I would like getting together with faithful Christian believers. I think the choice of words "remnant" causes some confusion. There is no particular church or denomination set aside as the "remnant" but rather believers. Gods people are found everywhere. Since I live in Texas, it would be possible to go to a meeting of this nature but I would not suppose that anyone who doesn't belong to this site or lives too far away would not be part of the "remnant":)
---jody on 11/15/09


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Strong.Axe...AMEN!!!!!
---KarenD on 11/15/09


\\How can anyone be part of the remnant now because the rapture has not happened yet and we are not yet in the tribulation?\\

The Tribulation comes first, then the Rapture when Christ returns as judge at the end of the Tribulation.

There's no such thing as a pre-trib rapture.
---Cluny on 11/15/09


Stong axe Did the animals walk in the Ark or were the transfigured by God?Are people saved by doing nothing? are do they have to repent
be baptized? Did lot have to leave Sodom are did God save him where he was? I guess you do not believe Abraham had to obey God? Jesus probably did not have to even die. Nobody has to do anything we just live our lives and what ever happens!
Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
Agreeing with the devil is dangerous.
---exzucuh on 11/15/09


First of all I am not agreeing with the people for their meeting but there is nothing wrong with what they are Doing.

I only commented because you attacked them without cause and played the gainsayer.

Titus 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
---exzucuh on 11/15/09


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exzucuh:

It is definitely possible for God to draw his remnant together from wherever they are scattered - after all, he's done it several times before.

On the other hand, in the Bible, it's always God who is doing the gathering, and not people who call themselves the remnant. All too often, it's the one who cry the loudest that they are God's chosen, that prove by their very actions that they aren't. Those who really are, generally don't need to broadcast the fact.
---StrongAxe on 11/15/09


Acts 13:41 Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.
---exzucuh on 11/14/09


How can anyone be part of the remnant now because the rapture has not happened yet and we are not yet in the tribulation?

My read of scripture is that we will not know who they are until it happens.

And if they are so faithful, why do they get "left behind"? Or am I confused?

I am just a regular born again non-denominational Christian. I know I am saved and if I encounter false doctrines I do come out from among them, but I don't call myself a "remnant".
---obewan on 11/14/09


KarenD -- Guess I'm not part of the "remnant" either. I haven't read any scripture that explains how to be one. I always thought that being a believer and follower of Jesus Christ, was all I needed.
---Donna66 on 11/14/09


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Revelation 11:12-13 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies beheld them. And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and THE REMNANT were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the REMNANT of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
---exzucuh on 11/13/09


Oh Phooey!!!! I'm not part of the "remnant" cause I asked them what they thought it meant. Poor me!
---KarenD on 11/13/09


\\The remnant church knows the truth and follows the teaching of Jesus and not man made doctrines that contradict and separate the church.
---exzucuh on 11/13/09\\

"Remnant church" is neither a phrase nor concept found ANYWHERE in the Bible.
---Cluny on 11/13/09


I know what they mean by it the reason you do not is because you are not the remnant. Read the parable of the wheat and the tares. The tares are taken first and burned, then the remnant the wheat is stored in the barn. In revelation the Woman the church that gives birth to the child that is the regenerated likeness of the Son of God is taken on the wings of an eagle as a remnant to hide in the wilderness. The remnant church knows the truth and follows the teaching of Jesus and not man made doctrines that contradict and separate the church.
---exzucuh on 11/13/09


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Dru....Yes, please do explain what you mean by "faithful remnant" as some on here really want to know. Thanks!
---KarenD on 11/12/09


StrongAxe-- I totally agree with you.
---Donna66 on 11/12/09


KarenD -- You are extremly wise to be able to judge so many, about whom you know so little. What amazing discernment that is!

I would like to see what THESE folks mean by "remnant". The very term arouses some suspicion with me, but I wouldn't judge soley on the basis of that term with no other information.
---Donna66 on 11/12/09


Donna66:

You can fix problems, or walk away. Matthew 18 explains how to deal with people who err. If you are successful, you have fixed a problem.

There are two problems with walking away and starting your own church. First, whatever caused the problem won't get fixed, and others fall into the same trap. Second, it contributes to the splintering of Christianity into many subsects. Most denominations and cults are started because their founders believed (rightly or wrongly) their way was better. And given the vast proliferation of cults, more of them were wrong than right.

"Get out from among them" is not always a bad thing, but it should not be the first choice. Paul rebuked Peter instead of starting a new church.
---StrongAxe on 11/12/09


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John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another, as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

The witness to the world that the remnant is of Christ will be fellowship based on true love. And only those that walk in the light can have fellowship with one another.You have to walk in the light to truly be cleansed of you sin.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
---exzucuh on 11/11/09


\\THE REMNANT is a Catholic newspaper, by the way.
---KarenD on 11/11/09\\

I've seen it on line. It has exactly the attitude you'd expect with a title like that. Mabye Dru would enjoy it.
---Cluny on 11/11/09


Donna66...I have found that few on these blogs who call themselves Christians actually have any discernment.
---KarenD on 11/12/09


KarenD -- If you connect to a group that's not biblical, you QUIT. If they are starting a church you don't want to join, you QUIT. Why do you assume people here can't make that judgement for themselves?
A Christian's loyalty is to God, not groups.
But that doesn't mean some groups are not helpful for fellowship and to encourage each other in the Lord.
---Donna66 on 11/11/09


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THE REMNANT is a Catholic newspaper, by the way.
---KarenD on 11/11/09


The big problem with this is: just who exactly is the "remnant"? God surely knows, but we don't. One of the problems with delusion is that people who are deluded believe that they have the truth - so that while people who are truly chosen may realize it, many who AREN'T chosen erroneously believe that they ARE chosen.

So this leaves us with the problem of separating the wheat from the chaff - something that can never really be done completely before the final judgment. Even the 12 apostles were clueless about one bad apple in their own midst.
---StrongAxe on 11/11/09


Dru, it doesn't matter if PEOPLE consider themselves as part of the faithful remnant, it matters ONLY if God considers them part of HIS remnant.

Do you know what the remnant is?

I have friends who are angry at God for various reasons, one divorced her husband and remarried after sleeping around and choosing the best man for her, friends living in horrible sin and they TRULY believe they are part of God's remnant. Pray and ask God to send people your way who are HIS remnant, HIS true followers.
---Donna on 11/11/09


\\cluny....Was it the "faithful remnant" that gave you the first clue?\\

Indeed.

The term "remnant" is used on the Bible (when talking about people) only for JEWS.
---Cluny on 11/11/09


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cluny....Was it the "faithful remnant" that gave you the first clue? The scary thing is that there are people who would go ahead with this kind of meeting and have no idea what kind of people are actually organizing it. Probably someone who is trying to start their own church is my guess.
---KarenD on 11/11/09


I see nothing wrong with people getting together to share their lives in Christ.
Many Christians feel Jesus will be returning soon. I think the "remnant" (whatever size) IS comprised of people from many denominations. And faithful doesn't mean the same thing as "holy" or better than
others, it only means determined to stay true to Jesus and to continue to grow in Him.
---Donna66 on 11/10/09


\\ We'd like to organize some "meet-ups" in the Houston area for people who consider themselves as part of the faithful remnant in our days (no particular denomination). \\

So you can talk about how holy and sanctified you are, compared with the unwashed masses of other Christians? Sort of a "God, we thank Thee that we are not as other people" thing?

There's a conventicle in my home city called Faithful Few Spiritual Church. I wouldn't darken the doorstep of that building.
---Cluny on 11/10/09


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