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The Hour Of Temptation

Any ideas as to what "the hour of temptation" refers to in this verse? Revelation 3:10"Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

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Moffatts translations says that " I will keep you safe through the hour of temptation ..." I believe this hour of temptation will be the temptation to take the mark of the beast and to worship his image. Revelation 20:4-6 shows many who escaped this temptation by being beheaded. All who die this way will be part of the first resurrection(ie) the rapture
---Brian_Hildebrand on 4/15/12


You all have it wrong. What Chrsit is speaking about is "being kept" from the TESTING. This testing or "hour of temptation" has to do with the plagues that will come upon the world at the second coming of Christ. There will be a rapture but NOT when you all think it's going to take place.

There will be much tribulation and we will go through it, but don't confuse that with the wrath of God, because it's NOT. The wrath or plagues of God will come at the Second Coming, at which time the 'true believers' will be caught up to "meet" Christ in the air.
---Gabriel on 3/27/11


It seems to be speaking of a single 'hour of temptation' for all the earth, which I take t be one or all of the temptations we are told of in revelation

But REvelation is always hard to interpret, and we must be careful in ayin things with great certainty
---Peter on 2/2/11


hour of temptation, when all the world will be temptated to take the mark , or receive the mark of the beast, the hour of gods jugement
---teddy_bear on 1/25/11


Jesus didn't ask the Father to take us out of this world, but that He would keep us from Satan's effort to destroy our spiritual life. The days coming will be very deceiving (Jesus said even the "elect" could possibly be deceived because Satan will use "signs and wonders" and all kinds of deception to attempt the destruction of our faith. But......We have the victory in Jesus. Remember this isn't our battle, it's the Lords' and He already won! Hold tight.....it's very close.Remember He is Faithful.....and Be still and know that He is God!
---michele_wilcoxen on 11/17/10




Luke 2:1
And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
---Bonita on 3/15/10


"Famous Rapture Watchers" on Google shows how the greatest NT Greek scholars of all time interpreted Rev. 3:10. They all said it means PRESERVATION ON EARTH (you know, "kept from" while on earth) and not being raptured off earth! Jon (And "Famous Rapture Watchers - Addendum" is great also!)
---Jon on 11/29/09


Yes, and most of these seem to be paraphrases of the original Greek.
---Cluny on 11/19/09


Then please, YOU translate it from the original Greek for us. Then we can truly read from the Gospel of Cluny.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/22/09


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The NIV translated it this way "you have kept My commmandments to endure patiently".

The New English Bible translates it this way "You kept My commandments and stood fast".

The ISV translates it this way "because you obeyed my commands to endure".

The RSV translates it "because you have kept my word of patient endurance".

and the NLT trnalates it this way "because you have obeyed my command to persevere".

Get the idea?\\

Yes, and most of these seem to be paraphrases of the original Greek.
---Cluny on 11/19/09


Maybe this is the hour of temptation..

Rev 13:16,17 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Those who do NOT have faith in Christ and His resurrection from the dead will fear death by starvation or the elements too much not to take it.

Whether or not we will all be required to prove our faith by suffering a physical death I cannot say. But I do believe that if we hold fast to our faith in Jesus Christ, He will give us strength in our hour of temptation. Maybe that is what He was referring to.
---JackB on 11/19/09




Cluny:

I have read several articles on the translation of this verse and there are different views on how this verse is translated, specifically the section you are using.

The NIV translated it this way "you have kept My commmandments to endure patiently".

The New English Bible translates it this way "You kept My commandments and stood fast".

The ISV translates it this way "because you obeyed my commands to endure".

The RSV translates it "because you have kept my word of patient endurance".

and the NLT trnalates it this way "because you have obeyed my command to persevere".

Get the idea?
---Mark_Eaton on 11/19/09


"what the hour of temptation refers to in this verse?" The deception of the spurious messiah, that Wicked One, whom the LORD shall destroy, or render operatively ineffectual with His coming. It is a period of time intended as a trial or trying of man's fidelity, integrity, virtue, and constancy via that "strong delusion" (as an active instrument of deception placed as a fraud or impostor) thrust upon the earth and positioned to mislead the faithless. Yet giving the faithful an opportunity to prove our character and faith in our stand against him. Therefore we have need of patience, that, after we have done the will of God, we might receive the promise. Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the LORD.
---josef on 11/19/09


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Jesus does not say do this and I will give this to you. No, Jesus says BECAUSE you have kept the word of my patience, I will keep you from the hour of testing. \\

So, what is the "word of [Christ's] patience?"

Please give book, chapter, and verse in your answer where He said EXACTLY what this "word" was.
---Cluny on 11/18/09


Cluny:

You read this incorrectly.

Jesus does not say do this and I will give this to you. No, Jesus says BECAUSE you have kept the word of my patience, I will keep you from the hour of testing.

What they did is in verse 8:

Rev 3:8 "I know your deeds. Behold, I have put before you an open door which no one can shut, because you have a little power, and have kept My word, and have not denied My name". Kept My words, repeated again in verse 10. This is the key idea.

It is similar to the phrase "He who overcomes". Do you really understand all that phrase entails what we must overcome, how we must overcome, who we must overcome? No, but we understand the meaning Jesus is intending.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/18/09


you do lnow that jesus said some will be put to death before his return.this was the case for many martyrs in the early church,but what makes you think it doesn,t apply to the anti christs rule and the mark of the beast?the church today would like to believe jesus promises to remove them from the tribulation,iam not so sure.If jesus rules your life,then through his strength you wont be tempted to take the mark,just to live,maybe this is what is being referenced.
---tom2 on 11/18/09


the passage that eloy quoted tells me that those who choose not to take the mark of the beast will die,and they will choose knowing they will die.The temptation is considering to take the mark.
---tom2 on 11/18/09


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Hypocrites were misjudging the members of this church causing them to become little. Jesus says, I will open a big door for you, and those saying they are of me but in truth they are not, I will make them as members of satan and cause them to bow down at your feet and they will know that I love you. And because you have remained stedfast inspite of the hypocrites persecuting you, I will keep you from the hour of temptation which will test everyones faith in me. Now how did the church in philadelphia overcome? As each one of us must, we love Jesus first and always and at all times: "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony, and they loved not their lives up to the death." Revelation 12:11.
---Eloy on 11/18/09


\\Cluny's response is what I encountered before. When you offer an explanation to the blog question, he offered a question on a completely unrelated subject. No answer, no counter-point, simply diversion. \\

I disagree.

The Lord has promised to deliver people from "the hour of temptation", but this is contingent upon "keeping the world of His patience."

Therefore, it follows that to obtain the promise, one must fulfil its condition.

Does anyone, including mima, know exactly what this condition is, and what is meant by "word of My patience"?
---Cluny on 11/17/09


Mima,

I believe you are trying to get me involved again in a Pre-trib rapture discussion.

Cluny's response is what I encountered before. When you offer an explanation to the blog question, he offered a question on a completely unrelated subject. No answer, no counter-point, simply diversion.

You have read what I posted on this subject, and you have also read what I encountered in this subject. I gave verses, passages, and explanation and all the while being called a heretic, a swine, and a spoil sport. Not once did any of them actually consider what I posted.

Your assessment is correct, the hour of temptation is not local to this church but world-wide.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/17/09


\\ Because they have kept the word of his patience he's going to keep them from the hour of temptation, not through the hour of temptation, but from the hour of temptation.\\

What is "the word of his patience," mima?

Do you have any idea?

There's no such thing as a pre-trib rapture. You are reading that into the text.
---Cluny on 11/17/09


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Because they have kept the word of his patience he's going to keep them from the hour of temptation, not through the hour of temptation, but from the hour of temptation. And that hour of temptation might well be having to take the mark of the beast, which we will be kept from because we will be raptured out. Notice also that this temptation is to come on all the world. It is certainly not local hardship or hard times!!!! This is not set in concrete but is a plausible interpretation.
---mima on 11/17/09


I understand that "the hour of temptation" will be a very hard trial. But it looks like Jesus *is* saying, that if we keep "the word of His patience", then there are very hard trying things that we will not go through. Maybe it is like how Mary "sat at Jesus' feet and heard His word." (in Luke 10:38-42) Meanwhile, Martha was busy busy busy, and in this business of not paying attention to our Groom Jesus, Martha was troubled. And haven't we found out how when we are just playing into things of this world, we get troubled by how things don't go our way. But if we just rest in the LORD, our attention to Him . . . this world's things can't play us like Satan's toys.
---Bill_bila5659 on 11/16/09


\\Seems to me you are fishing for someone to back up what you already believe it means.
---JackB on 11/16/09\\

You're not the first one to have noticed this about mima's postings, JackB.
---Cluny on 11/16/09


I think it means if we remain faithful to the promise that Christ will come back for us.

If we wait in patience He will deliver us from the 'temptation' to believe the Antichrist is God when the false prophet calls fire down from Heaven and makes the image of the beast come to life etc etc.

People who didnt believe in Jesus will be completely brainwashed.

It doesnt say to me that He will get us at that time, but that He will protect us from delusion. This is one of the reasons that Im not sold on a PRE-tribulation rapture yet. I do believe in the rapture, just not convinced of the timing
---JackB on 11/16/09


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And how does one ask an honest question about something they dont know about but then limit your answer to what they are willing to accept?

Seems to me you are fishing for someone to back up what you already believe it means.
---JackB on 11/16/09


The verse is not talking about a pre-trib rapture. There's no such thing.

The real question is what is "the word of My patience"?
---Cluny on 11/16/09




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