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Witnessing To Jewish Woman

I am trying to show love to a Jewish woman, but she corrects me and tells me what God does and doesn't do. For example: She told me God isn't going to take care of the aborted babies. God isn't going to give people money. How do I handle these comments? How would you handle them?

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Sounds like another IGNORANT "Christian"!

Hey Jewish Woman.."Jesus loves you!" He died for you!' Hey if you died today are you sure you go to heaven... (Nauseating ignorance) So the Jew asked... How did he fulfilled Prophecies, What about the Passover? The Laws? I thought his name was Yeshua?

REPLY...

Who cares! What his name is! Im save by grace that's all I care about. I said the 1minute "Get out of hell" prayer ticket!" Come by our Potluck we're having "Ham" Fellowship.

AS THE BLOGGER SAID...

"I am trying to show love to a Jewish woman" ...BECAUSE I'M IGNORANT OF MY FAITH!

Saul witness with facts!!!

SCRIPTURAL IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS!!
---John on 1/15/11


To respond to this directly, not all Jewish people believe that. It's not a case of what her religion is in this matter, but a case of her personal opinion. I believe G-d looks after aborted babies. And I don't support abortion 99% of the time.

G-d isn't going to hand money for no reason. G-d It/Himself loves to do good deeds (mitzvot) and for us too as well. In her case I don't understand why she doesn't think G-d doesn't take care of aborted babies. It may be her personal view on the afterlife or something like that. But I'm a Jew and do not share her view. Just as there are "denominations" or different views and opinions on certain things amongst Christians, there are amongst Jews.

I hope this in some way sheds light.
---Hadassah_Chayim on 1/15/11


Rhonda:

Are you saying that Jews have a different way to God than Christians? Are you saying that Jesus is not the way to salvation for the Jew?

You accuse me of demonination junk. Please stop that. I have rarely spoken about my church and I do not offer denominational views. My views are totally biblical and I offer scripture every time I post.

Rom 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek"

The gospel of Jesus is for the Jew. They have no other way to salvation than Jesus.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/14/09


You're either looking for a "new car" here or you're looking to destroy someone elses.

Which is it?
---JackB on 12/9/09

Good call JackB. Like Atheist's they drop in from time to time to view the animals as we are known in their "talmud-d".

Mystery Shoppers, pick up a few new ideas to beat the "goyim" down a little. Cause a little havoc. Wouldn't expect any less from some of Esau's kids.
---Trav on 12/11/09


Mark Eaton you choose to "witness" per denominational traditions and practices

sadly it is NOT from Holy Word of God

do as you wish to SERVE your denomination you do not honor or serve The Father in Heaven or Christ with this practice it is unbiblical

True Christians understand ONLY The Father in Heaven CALLS those to him - no MORTAL man

having lived in Jewish community outside NYC I have never met any orthodox Jew that has the claims you make to this religion

regardless you are outside of scripture by preaching to them ...if The Father in Heaven CALLED THEM they would be seeking YOU out they wouldn't be subjected to listening to your SALES PITCH about a "jesus"
---Rhonda on 12/10/09




Rhonda:

You are mistaken.

Most Jews do not know Jesus was Jewish or that he even has a connection to the Messiah. All they know is that they have been beaten, tortured, and killed for being a Jew and killing Jesus. Today most know very little about their own faith.

Rabbis of course know the truth, but they teach their congregations that Jesus is the same as Buddah, Mohammed, Krishna, a false prophet. They also teach that the OT (Tanakh) is the only Bible, the Torah is what God wants them to follow, and that the NT does not relate to them and they should ignore it.

I have confirmed this with Orthodox, Reform, and Conservative Jews from very young adults all the way to Holocaust survivors.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/10/09


It is no LIE. Few Jews really know that Jesus is Yeshua and that He is Jewish. They see Jesus as the Gentile god.
*****

few Jews? "gentile god"? what? which "Jews"?

Jewish people understand Christ walked earth REJECT Christ as Messiah fulfillment of prophecy

ONLY The Father in Heaven CALLS those to HIM - NO MAN CALLS anybody to salvation or to understand the messenger Christ with message of Gods Kingdom on Earth

True Christians know that we ANSWER questions we do not LEAD people as scripture states ONLY God Calls

Jehovah's Witnesses Other denominations teach AGAINST scripture to run around finding people to preach to and "save them" TAUGHT God is loosing battle with Satan
---Rhonda on 12/9/09


Rhonda:

You said "that's a LIE of course you want to convert and you are deceived if you believe you are "introducing"because THAT concept is certainly NOT from scripture either...

It is no LIE. Few Jews really know that Jesus is Yeshua and that He is Jewish. They see Jesus as the Gentile god.

Acts 17:23 "For while I was passing through and examining the objects of your worship, I also found an altar with this inscription, 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD ' Therefore what you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you."

Paul introduced the true God to them.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/9/09


Stop condescending to us Jews by telling us how much you "love" us. We find this insulting and patronizing. All it means is you want to proselytize and convert us. Leave us alone! - Sara

This is a Christian website right?

Ma'am, if you drive a half broken down Daihatsu into a Ford dealership and start looking at their cars do you honestly expect the salesmen to just sit there without tryin to sell you a better car?

You're either looking for a "new car" here or you're looking to destroy someone elses.

Which is it?
---JackB on 12/9/09


Rhonda:

Where do you get off saying that kind of junk to me?
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well then Mark Eaton WHERE IS SCRIPTURE to support the "JUNK" you CLAIM?

until then your IDEAS are simply denominational and have absolutely NOTHING to do scripture

many "christians" have a very watered down syrup-y sickening sweet idea they shove in others faces that has no basis from Gods Holy Word

YET EVERY TIME I say it is NOT from scripture I never get the scripture that supports the wild ideas claimed

I'm the one with "junk" because I called your non-scriptural ideas as such? too funny
---Rhonda on 12/9/09




Rhonda:

Where do you get off saying that kind of junk to me?

I know and love several Orthodox Rabbis and Jewish congregations in my area. I also attend Messianic Sabbath services from time to time. I truly love the Jewish people.

I do NOT try to convert them nor do I try to save them. Many simply do not know who Yeshua is. They think that Jesus Christ is a Gentile God and is unrelated to the God of Abriaham, Isaac, and Jacob. When they read the gospel of Matt. for the first time, they realize how Jewish Jesus is.

Do not be deceived. Jewish people have NO other way to God than Jesus. They need to be redeemed through Him the same as we do.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/9/09


Amen Pastor Jim ...Amen Sarah it is patronizing - sadly many denominations are taught idea's that do not exist in NT
---Rhonda on 12/8/09

Scripture supports all three of you.

It is sad Rhonda. You said denominations are taught. This is a deeper truth. Then they teach their ignorance and it has/is compounded.

Is where Christ the teacher comes in and Father. If sarah was/is drawn....then she would/will search...maybe she is now. A seeker of truth will find, a door will be opened.

Romans 3:11
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for, but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
---Trav on 12/9/09


Sarah:

We do not want to convert you, we want to introduce you to your Jewish Messiah, Yeshua.
******

that's a lie of course you want to convert and you are deceived if you believe you are "introducing" because THAT concept is certainly NOT from scripture either ...the false "christian" way is to "save people" or "witness to them" which is not scriptural

Amen Pastor Jim you took the words right out of my post ...it is NO different if any religion Hindu Islam etc were to "introduce" me or anyone to their beliefs if I didn't ASK THEM for their beliefs

Amen Sarah it is patronizing - sadly many denominations are taught idea's that do not exist in NT
---Rhonda on 12/8/09


After 10 tirbes scattered. They and Benjiman were left.
Today, There are Pharasee(Orthodox), Saducee(kariate), Reformed Jews, and secular Jews etc.
Therefore what type are dealing with?---Yochanan on 12/7/09

Don't forget the "Other" sect. The liars.
Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie,...

His own (Judah)would have him not.
John 1:11
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
John 10:14
I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (10mentioned above).
---Trav on 12/8/09


Sarah:

We do not want to convert you, we want to introduce you to your Jewish Messiah, Yeshua.

It is your own Rabbis who have lied to you about Him and have withheld the knowledge of your Messiah from you.

He came to save His own people and the books that were written about Him were written by Jews to other Jews.

He is not the god of the Gentiles. He is the Redeemer of the Jews and God has graciously included us Gentiles in His gift to you.

Find out for yourself. There are many temples and synagogues that have entirely Jewish congregations that have come to know and worship the Messiah.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/7/09


You have to study the history of Isra "el", Jews and their culture. After 10 tirbes scattered. They and Benjiman were left. Judaism changed after 70AD to a good works religion by Pharasee rabbis because temple sacrifcial system stopped abd jews scattered later in 135 AD.

Today, There are Pharasee(Orthodox), Saducee(kariate), Reformed Jews, and secular Jews etc. They are African, Europeoan and Asian.

Therefore what type are dealing with?

Many don't read written Torah, they study what their rabbis tell them through the lense of their Oral Torah-tradition.

Where is she getting her comments from, tradition or written TORAH?
---Yochanan on 12/7/09


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PART 2 (final) I would lead her in prayer to Messiah based on WRITTEN Law and PROPHETS.

I would show her how the new covenant letters relate with OT(Tankh). You'll find the same laws of ethic-Matthew 5-7 chapters.

Many Jews see Christians as pagans who hate LAW and have been persecuted by so called Christians etc. It takes YHWH to open the heart and eyes.

Jewish-Messianic groups like: Lew White,
"Bibles for Isreal" and "Jewish Jewels" witness and educate Jews and Christians on Judeo Christian heritage and YAHUSHUA(JESUS).
---Yochanan on 12/7/09


SARA, GOOD POINT!!!!

Nothing worst than hearing the ignorant say "Jesus loves you". If someone said to me "Budda Loves You" I would say "Who cares!"
Why should they expect a different responce from non-christians. Its ignorance and the selling of Messiah like laundry soap or medicine (since they like to add sugar to the message)

Rabbi Saul never did this, but only stated the facts. Most "so-called" Christians tend to be extremely ignorant of their roots and know nothing about their faith. So they say silly emotional things to people. Very condesending to You and The Christ they profess. In so doing they offend people and thereby achieve nothing for their cause.
---PASTOR_JIM on 12/7/09


Sara this verse, Romans 1:16,"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek." Makes myself and every other Christian responsible for delivering the gospel of Jesus Christ to the Jewish people. It is my prayer that God would open your eyes!!!!
---mima on 12/7/09


Stop condescending to us Jews by telling us how much you "love" us. We find this insulting and patronizing. All it means is you want to proselytize and convert us. Leave us alone! Jews have a different concept of God than you do, and you need to respect that. We do not try to "witness" to you and convert you, and we expect to be treated accordingly.
---Sara on 12/5/09


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First thing you should do is stop majoring in minor points. What is important is that the Tanak point to JESUS CHRIST as the Messiah. Study this topic and what the Old Testament says about who and when the Messiah would come.

Also point out that the Torah requires blood sacrifice to pay for sin. JESUS gave a blood sacrifice to save us from sin.

Concentrate on JESUS.
---Samuel on 12/4/09


KarenD, I really think you have me confused with someone else. I never ever continually mention money on this site, but I do support tithing and giving.

Please let me clarify this for you:

SHE wants me to put a PERCENTAGE of my SALARY (which means I don't have a savings account with money in it) into my company's 401K which means I would have to pick stocks to put that money into and I'm NOT willing to do that. THE MONEY WOULD COME FROM MY SALARY. I was speaking the truth, you just weren't getting it and for that I apologize.
I did mention suggestions on what to do with my inheritance I got LAST YEAR and I gave that away to feed hungry children all over the world, including the USA. Was that okay to do? Are you okay with that?
---Donna on 12/4/09


There are(from what I know) two schools of thought in the Hasadic Traditions. One is present day Israel Geo Political only and Zion will come later (3rd Temple). Another is present day Israel is New Zion as it stands(Lubavitch). Or are there other thoughts on this?
---Pastor_Jim on 12/1/09

Are other knowns, you like myself never considered. Jews calling themselves such...you have their word and your belief.
Israel was composed of 12 other nations. Christ came to seek these. His own would have him not.
Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
2 Corinthians 4:3
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
Two different kinds of lost.
---Trav on 12/4/09


".....I was simply telling her that I am against putting my money in stocks right now because it's a worldly system."---Donna on 12/2/09


"I have NOTHING left buy my salary that I work for." ---Donna on 12/3/09

Which is it? You either have money to put in stocks or you don't. By the way, Sister I was not trying to put you down. I was trying to give you advise to protect you since you continue to mention "your" money on this site.
---KarenD on 12/3/09


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God's ways are higher than ours and unsearchable. I would let her know that I don't know what God can't do. We only know what he can do:). He can do anything. I think you are on the right track by loving her and letting her experience love from a Christian. The Holy Spirit will let you know when she is ripe for the Word. Some sow to the Kingdom and some reap. Perhaps you are the sower. Just food for thought. Many blessings to you and your work for God.
---jody on 12/3/09


KarenD, where did I say I had "all that money?"

The little bit I had, I gave away to feed hungry children all over the world.

I have NOTHING left buy my salary that I work for.

Where in my post did I mention "all that money?" It's all gone - fed hungry children in starving countries including the USA.
---Donna on 12/3/09


Tell her that she does not know God, and until she becomes saved and receives the mind of God she will continue to not know God nor what he will or will not do.
---Eloy on 12/3/09


Donna...Please be careful talking about all that money you have. Someone online may try to get it from you. I am not trying to be cute or witty here. This is a sincere post. There are people online who will act like your best friend to get that money from you.
---KarenD on 12/2/09


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AlwaysOn, what profound advice you gave to me. Thank you for that.

TO: Trish & Cluny, a little clarification if I may. Trish, I never say a word back to her when she tells me what God is going go to, so I am LOVING her and telling her how much I love her, I am not trying to win any argument - we haven't gotten into one yet. And I won't do that. It's not my style or nature.

Cluny, I was simply telling her that I am against putting my money in stocks right now because it's a worldly system. That's when she blurted out God isn't going to give you money. Cluny, haven't you ever had God bless you with money? I have many times, and just when I needed it. BUt we weren't talking about that.
---Donna on 12/2/09


Donna,

You would need to get educated in all aspects of Judism/Christianity. Since they are the same(except for Messiah). This could take several years. If you do not have this knowledge you would appear as an ignorant "Jesus Love You" Christian.

An alternative would be to take her and Yourself to a Messianic Temple. I highly recomend Gentiles to attend these, and it would be your best witness to her.

At last resort I would recomend "Jews for Jesus" although I'm not impressed by their tactics (Tracts etc)

Good Luck Sister!!!
---Pastor_Jim on 12/1/09


You can only tell a person your truth, you can't make them believe it. Continue to speak what you know and if she corrects you politely state that you disagree, but do not argue with her. If she wants you to prove something, show her scripture, but don't expect her to be convinced since she doesn't share your faith in Messiah or His teachings. That's cool, just keep loving her anyway. Remember that love is patient and kind, it doesn't demand its own way and is not easily provoked. The greatest witness of the Messiah you can show her is to love her unfailingly despite her different viewpoints. Eventually, she will inquire about your peace and your strength and you will, as usual, direct her to Him.
---AlwaysOn on 12/1/09


Cluny is right. Tell this woman about Jesus. Don't tell her false doctrine like if she becomes a Christian she will be blessed with prosperity. She is already blessed to be a part of God's chosen people.
---KarenD on 12/1/09


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Are you witnessing to her, or trying to win an argument? Witnessing is loving and not being right all the time. So what if she thinks what she thinks. Who cares in the vast scheme of things.

Pray and seek the Lord for her. She needs to know who Jesus is, and how much He loves her.
---Trish9863 on 12/1/09


Donna, are you saying that you believe that God IS going to give people money?

Seriously, isn't that exactly what some Christians think witnessing is? Telling people what God does and doesn't do?

At least, that is frequently how it gets perceived by others.

Think about it.
---Cluny on 12/1/09


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