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Is The Death Penalty A Sin

Someone asked me if I think it is a sin to support the death penalty. Do you think it is a sin?

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Jerry ... You said to me ... "Why should I show you anything?"

And yet you ask me questions!

Unlike you, though, I will have the courtesy to answer yours:

Yes ... I live in a monarchy.

No ... I do not approve of socialism, because it tends not to work very well.

But I do not have your hatred of socialism, nor do I fear it in the same way that I fear (with sound and demonstrated reason) communism. They are quite different things.

Now perhaps you will answer my earlier questions? Out of courtesy and honesty?
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/31/10


NO!!! Beginning with Adam & Eve, the death penalty is a major consequence of sin & is seen (even ordered by God) throughout the Bible to punish lawless people:

1. God has established law & government to deal with lawless people in order to maintain good civil order.

2. Unrepentent sinners are living under conviction of sin (are on death row) & facing the ultimate penalty (execution), i.e., eternal death in the Lake of Fire.
---Leon on 1/31/10


Alan: OK, It's time for a review.

(1) Do you or do you not approve of socalism?

(2) Do you or do you not live in a country that is technically a monarchy?

Just yes or no to both, please.
---jerry6593 on 1/31/10


Jerry "your stated affinity for political socialism"

"Your entire world view is subservience to a monarch"

Wow ... on one blog you accuse me of being a socialist, and on the other of being a monarchist!
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/30/10


Alan, I would be greatly honored to become a UK citizen, and I have respect for the leaders of your land and would also have pride knowing that the leaders were "doing good" and not evil as Jerry disses good leadership. Perhaps Jerry is not a democrat and perhaps he is also a prejudicial racist against blacks and therefore he disses anyone whom is not like he is, how sad to be prejudice and bear false witness against others. Don't be sad little man, perhaps a white republican will be elected in the future again, or again, perhaps not, for we have already seen their impact and deficits made by these.
---Eloy on 1/30/10




Jerry ... Indeed I do live in the UK and not the USA.

Europe was for 8 years or so was raped and pillaged by Nazism, and my country faced that threat irself. Then for decades, the whole of Europe faced the very real threat of Russian Communist rule, and we saw and feared what was happening in Eastern Europe, and heard first hand after the Velvet revolutions what it had been like.

So we know full well what communism and fascism is about, and those things I mentioned were features of them.

You equate "Obamanation" with that, but I've not heard of any of these features happening in the USA. Perhaps your secret police are keeping them quiet?

Do you have evidence that these things are happening in the USA?
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/30/10


Alan: "Show me....blah, blah, blah." Why should I show you anything? You live in the UK - not in America. Your entire world view is subservience to a monarch. While I mean no disrespect to your Queen, she still is the head of your government (as she confirms the PM) as well as the head of your Church. When we rebelled against your King, we put off forever the notion of subservience to a monarch. Our president serves us - not the other way around. Our current obamanation thinks himself above the Constitution he swore to uphold, and if possible would anoint himself king of the world. There is now in America the undercurrent rebellion beginning anew. Not a rebellion of arms, but a throwing off of the yoke of socialist tyranny.
---jerry6593 on 1/30/10


Its an issue for pagans not for believers.
They must have it and we don't need it.

Under the OT it was an eye for an eye which covered not only murder, but fornication and the disrespect of parents. That would take care of almost anyone participating in this discussion.

Man's heart is desperately wicked and therefore Levitical law along with government, ironically railed against by those who support the death penalty, were set up by God as the only way to save man from his own wickedness.

Under the law no one deserved to live or was justified so why go there?

Being the most famous death penalty victim was Christ it would look kind of stupid for his followers to be on the other side.
---larry on 1/29/10


Alan, A-men. Preach it brother! All these so-called Cristians harboring hate in their hearts against the President of the U.S.A. because they are prejudicial racists. Recall what God did to Miriam, Moses' sister, for speaking against Moses' black ethoiopian wife? He struck her with leprosy. Now stop dissing the president and start supporting him. If he were evil then I would be commanding you to do otherwise, but he is not, he is a good man with a good mind on his shoulders, and I pray Godspeed to him, may he bring about great good in this land. In Jesus I pray, Lord help guide president Barak Obama to do your will, yes Lord, your will we pray, in Jesus A-men.
---Eloy on 1/29/10


Jerry ... Show me Obama's concentration camps. Show me his SS or KJB, show me his murder of the peasants. Show me his expropriation of homes and small businesses. Show me his racial hatred and oppression, Show me the wars he has started. Show me his torture chambers. Show me his concentration camps. Where are his gulags? Show me the murder of his political opponents. Show me his racial murders. Where are his 6 million victims? Show me his murder of intellectuals and artists. Show me his seizure of profitable industry. Show me the spittle as he makes hate-filled speeches. Show me his Wall.
---alan8566_of_Uk on 1/29/10




Alan: "Obama's policies"? He doesn't have any policies, he just reads whatever someone else puts up on the teleprompter. He does indeed amalgamate the worst of multiple ideologies. He combines the class warfare of Marist Communism with the usurpation of private industry characteristic of fascism and the nationalized socialism of the Nazis. He's to the right of your country? Boy, I'd hate to live in the UK. Stalin and Mao would have been proud!
---jerry6593 on 1/29/10


Jerry ... You chose elsewhere to judge my attitudes to Churchill and Chamberlain, so I thought you knew something about European history.

But now I wonder, for you say "America is now getting a good look at just how much damage a leftist, socialist, fascist, communist regime can do"

Now if you knew anything about these things, you would know that Obama's policies are way to the right of our own socialism, which itself is nothing like Communism.

Also, Fascism is right wing, not left wing, and that the facist Nazi party was National Socialist.

So you're a bit mudddled to lump all that lot together.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/28/10


Nursey: "I didn't know McCain was a lefty?? How many right-wingers are in the same boat?"

Yep! He, like half of the republican party are nothing but Democrats in drag. But don't worry, we're starting to replace them with REAL Republicans. America is now getting a good look at just how much damage a leftist, socialist, fascist, communist regime can do. And we don't like it!
---jerry6593 on 1/28/10


Jerry is correct, the far left is drunk with illogic ---larry on 12/13/09

I didn't know McCain was a lefty?? How many right-wingers are in the same boat?

You paint with too broad a brush.

"Capital punishment is our way of demonstrating the sanctity of life."
-Orrin Hatch
---NurseRobert on 1/27/10


i don't think the death penalty is a sin. You know we human beings tend to get very sentimental on certain issues.anyone who kills another human being deserves to die as well.
---zoba on 1/27/10


Jesus did not say the woman was judged rightly. And that is the problem today. No one judges rightly.
---catherine on 1/27/10


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well,Jesus said the woman who was caught in adultery was judged rightly,and stoning to death was the judgement,but he also said let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone.
---tom2 on 1/27/10


In now days, I certainly do. Man don't know what it's doing.
---catherine on 12/23/09


JackB - I agree with you that many from different denominations are genuine Christians despite the fact that the denomination may not have good doctrinal beliefs or practices in our opinion.

I have noted that, as I have given presentations in many different churches for the Bible distribution society I belong to, many donated much money for us to distribute to the Word of God in motels, hotels, jails, schools, universities, military facilities, etc.

We need not be hasty in calling someone a nonChristian just because the denomination may have beliefs we reject since it is the individual that may or may not believe what his denominations holds.
---Lee1538 on 12/23/09


Im non-denominational. I dont believe any one Christian sect has all the answeres.
---JackB on 12/22/09

Sometimes the answers they offer are a diversion/separation of truth.

Blessings too you. Wide is the way to destruction. I believe it on either hand, the gospels/denom's of some that are not witnessed scripturally as truth, and the world on the other.

Philippians 2:12
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
---Trav on 12/23/09


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Just to explain that a bit further. I've been to Baptist, Catholic, Methodist and Calvanist churches before.

I've seen Catholics that refused to honor Mary saying it was unbiblical, Calvanists that didnt believe in election, Baptists that didnt believe in hellfire and brimstone preaching, Methodists that didnt recite the creeds.

If one church had it all right I suppose that church would be listed at the front of Revelations somewhere around chapter 2.
---JackB on 12/23/09


JackB, The forgiveness of sins from GOD only benefits those who actively choose to receive it, and by repenting of their sin. The criminal on Death Row is not to be denied the opportunity to receive Salvation. But, receiving Salvation is not a guarantee that GOD will put a stop to the execution. GOD has already warned us that sin always brings death. That can be a literal physical death, or whatever. Look what happened to Ananias and Sapphira. Who bumped them off? WHO? And, that happened during the new Church Age, the Age of Grace, after the Resurrection of YAHUSHUA, and after the first filling of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:2-4). A percentage of today's Church has streched GOD's Grace into an unrecognizable, exaggerated form.
---Gordon on 12/23/09


Well Paul I tried to post my denomination and it wasnt allowed, so Ill try one more time.

Im non-denominational. I dont believe any one Christian sect has all the answeres.
---JackB on 12/22/09


Ill still stick to my guns.

We can't praise God for his mercy when we deserved death and he set us free because of what Christ did for us, then turn around and hold others to their death sentence without mercy.

Arent we supposed to live by the same mercy that saved us? Showing grace toward others as God in Christ did for us?
---JackB on 12/22/09


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I've never heard of the Church of Abraham but ok
---JackB on 12/22/09


Larry, GOD is the Author of Capital Punishment. He is the One Who commanded that some of His own people be stoned to death when they violated His Laws. The Death Penalty also served as a warning to other people to stay away from sin, including the kinds that caused people to be stoned to death. Yes, GOD is indeed the only One Who can take the life of a person, and He has delegated power to our Civil Authorities to execise this Authority. That's why it is wrong for any human being to take the life of another on their own accord. GOD alone can say when a human being is to die, and when He sees fit to have someone put to death for a crime such as murder, He delegates that Authority to the Civil Authoritative System that HE set up.
---Gordon on 12/22/09


Moses and David both committed murder by hand or by conspiracy.

God used them both for great things.

James 2:10
For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy, and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

Romans 4:8
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
---JackB on 12/21/09

JackB, David lived under a Theocracy in Israel, and was not accountable to anyone but God. No comparison to our day or our country. We are not a Theocracy as was Israel.

And yes, if Pharaoh had caught Moses I'm sure there would have been consequences.

Thou shall not kill was first given to Noah!
---kathr4453 on 12/22/09


Some innocent people are killed by the death sentence. And it is not possible to forgive and love your enemy, and also hate and kill them at the same time. The Lord God Jesus says, "You all have heard that said, Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth: but I say to you, revenge not whom bad, but it anyone strike you on the right cheek, turn to whom your other. You all have heard that it was said, You will love your neighbor, and hate your enemy: but I say to you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them hating you, and pray over them that shame you and persecute you." Matthew 5:38,39,43,44.
---Eloy on 12/22/09


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Rhonda
"Robert ...are you kidding me? and this "murderer sentenced to prison" will commit another murder ...how? by telepathy?"
*****
Use some search engine and you will find various cases like that, even in maximum security prisons in your country. Note that I wrote nothing about escapes - I was thinking mainly about murders committed in such prisons. (Or perhaps they are just not important enough to worry?) Check for example the story of Corey Fox, and there are others like him.
---Robert on 12/22/09


I'm not sure why Christians are involved in death penalty arguments.
The death penalty as Gordon points out is ordained by God for civil authority. Where Gordon errs is forgetting the death penalty is NOT an issue for the redeemed because its not needed within our congregations. We oppose the death penalty for the same reason we oppose abortion, we have no right to interfere with God's plan for someone's life INCLUDING our own.
Pagans SHOULD and MUST have the death penalty but we have a better way. Physical death is always THEIR solution (war, abortion) because it kills any chance for repentance. And who do you think is behind that idea? The Accuser himself.
---larry on 12/22/09


JackB:

u said 2 me:
I have yet to see a post where you explain what faith you belong to....

What faith do I belong to?

My faith is as Abraham's faith, He received THE PROMISE, AND he kept Father's laws, with Faith in Christ!

Genesis 26:5

Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my my my my my LAWS.

Have you been told the FULL STORY of Abraham's faith unto salvation, unto righteousness?

If the Father dind't refuse Abraham THE PROMISE WHILE he kepts Father's laws, why would he refuse u, if u do same?
---Paul9594 on 12/21/09


Rhonda, what do you say when "imperfect men" on the basis of "man made gathering of evidence" sentence a serial murderer to prison (not to death), and afterwards he commits another murder?
*****

Robert ...are you kidding me? and this "murderer sentenced to prison" will commit another murder ...how? by telepathy?

maximum security prisons (where murderers rapists and highly violent convicted criminals are located) do not have a very successful escape ratio -borders on nil

IMPERFECT MAN is very essence of not being perfect ...as in we are Gods creation - we are not all-knowing divine "gods" no matter how loudly some "christians" claim they are
---Rhonda on 12/21/09


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We were all under a death sentence before Christ set us free...

It only seems natural to extend that to others
---JackB on 12/21/09


Moses and David both committed murder by hand or by conspiracy.

God used them both for great things.

James 2:10
For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy, and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

Romans 4:8
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
---JackB on 12/21/09


Rhonda, what do you say when "imperfect men" on the basis of "man made gathering of evidence" sentence a serial murderer to prison (not to death), and afterwards he commits another murder? Is our system perfect enough to guarantee that it won't happen? And if this happens, are you happy with the conclusion "oh well, let's just wash our hands in front of the crowd - not our fault. Certainly. We are good Christians after all". Is that what you would say?
---Robert on 12/21/09


Cluny - // is there really any earthly government that is righteous enough to impose the death penalty,

Clearly not! Just yesterday a man here in the USA was release from prison after spending 35 years there. Again DNA was the tool that proved that man innocent. He joins hundreds of others that have been proven innocent and released from prison.

In short, the system is very far from perfect with prosecutors determining to win cases against the accursed and often without considering all the facts involved.

The death penalty should be imposed only on serial murderers and that with complete and very substantial evidence.
---lee on 12/19/09


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Cluny, If one takes the physical life of another, they have automatically opened the door to have their life taken from them, but, only by the Civil Authoritative System that GOD Himself established. Recall how GOD chastened or punished rebellious Israel by using Israel's enemies to attack her, slay her, and/or to bring her into captivity. GOD has not changed, He can (and will) do the same kind of thing today. Part of the problem of today's Church to accept this fact of GOD using "Capital Punishment" as a retribution on murder, etc., is the slow decades-long process and dumbing-down of the awareness of GOD's ever-present Wrath against the sins of mankind. The Bible says that GOD is angry with the wicked every day.
---Gordon on 12/19/09


Rhonda, Of course there are imperfections in our Justice System. But, we can't just throw out the baby with the dirty bath water. As in America's case, it's up to the people to learn about politicians and learn what they stand for and make a better effort to get involved in the problems of society, and get involved better in the voting process. And, this primarily applies to the Church. So many christians think that politics are "of the world", and therefore, the Church should just focus on "churchy things" like Evangelism, etc. But, the Church is to be the Salt and Light in this dark World. But, some people don't care enough. Just curious, why did you not pray for GOD's Direction yourself during jury duty?
---Gordon on 12/19/09


Always On, Your last post about Moses, king David and Saul (Paul?)... GOD knows the inner heart of each person. In the above cases, He tugged at their hearts to repent, and they responded affimatively, and GOD was then able to use them for His Glory and Kingdom. But, they still each paid some kind of painful consequence for their actions. They did not get off Scot-free. The Sword never left king David's household, his sons were rebellious to different degrees. Paul was imprisoned, stoned and left for dead, beaten with rods, for GOD said (in Acts) that He would show how Paul would have to suffer for the Kingdom's sake, as a result of his former inflictions upon the Church before his Conversion.
---Gordon on 12/19/09


\\the foremost commandment in Adventism and other Hagarian sects. (see Gal. 4:24f)
---Lee1538 on 12/13/09\\

I see you've reached the same conclusion about Hagar and her children that I have. It's not for nothing that "Hagarene" is used in Slavonic liturgical books to refer to the Khazars.

However, to get back to the original question, is there really any earthly government that is righteous enough to impose the death penalty, especially in light of the qualification for the executioners that Jesus Himself gave in John 8?
---Cluny on 12/19/09


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Gordon,

you fail to recognize the verses you use are worthless to the JURY who ultimately chooses BY mans reasoning of evidence to MURDER the defendant

have you ever been on a Jury?

I have ...we didn't PRAY to God for our decision to be HIS WILL

we evaluated the evidence given by IMPERFECT LAWYERS who ARGUED their case and by imperfect reasoning we came to a decision

people have free moral will and that will is exercised when a JURY working outside of Gods Will MURDERS a defendant using imperfect evidence from mortal man

Amen to the 12/13 post of AlwaysOn
---Rhonda on 12/18/09


Rhonda, Forget the word "corrupt", for your case, (though there ARE corrupt individuals in civil authoritative offices....) nevertheless, corrupt or no, it does not change that GOD set up civil authorities to carry the sword, and that, not in vain. A sword is used for dismembering or slaying to death. You know that GOD has not changed. He feels hatred and repugnance toward sin today as He has during Old Testament times. We live in the Day of Grace, but, that's not a free license to murder and not reap the appropriate penalty. Rev. 13:10a says "HE that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed by the sword...".
---Gordon on 12/17/09


Rhonda, Yes, there are corrupt civil authorities but, it does not dispel the fact that GOD set-up the office and position of the Civil Authorities.
******

Gordon I never used the word "corrupt"

a corrupt government operating outside of its authority and power for more power or money is in no way equated to authorities being given power for GODS PURPOSE and those within that authority are VOID of God

Jurors do not sit around and PRAY to God about a decision to murder somebody

Jurors make decisions based upon MAN MADE gathering of evidence ...it is NOT the government that gives out the sentence it is mortal IMPERFECT MAN - societies death penalty is not from God
---Rhonda on 12/16/09


No. This is why God placed KINGS over Nations, and not the Church.

Those who want to apply this to our Christian life is a bit silly. Here's why. Someone in your church who professes to be a Christian molests your 5 year old....and you say no consequences...just Hay man...I love ya, I forgive ya is silly.

Yes we are to forgive, because God is the judge, however in civil matters there is still accountability that must be dealt with. YET, we don't need the RCC/Inquisitions breathing down our necks either.

There will be a Judgement of NATIONS and they will be held accountable to God as well.
---kathr4453 on 12/14/09


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Rhonda, Yes, there are corrupt civil authorities but, it does not dispel the fact that GOD set-up the office and position of the Civil Authorities. As Romans 13 states, ALL Power is from GOD, and GOD has delegated some power to the Civil Authorities. That includes Capital Punishment. Verse 4 states "...for he beareth not the SWORD in vain...". This means that the sword may well be used at the appropriate time. The SWORD is an instrument of DEATH here. GOD intends that the sword (lethal injection, etc....) be used for vengeance as a consequence for the murder of (an) innocent person(s), etc. GOD is not against Capital Punishment. How could He be when He is the One who first established it, as in the Old Testament? And GOD changes not.
---Gordon on 12/14/09


Although they had all been a party to murder before, I'm glad that Moses, David and Saul were forgiven instead of going before man's court and given the death penalty. Isn't it just amazing what God can do to turn a person's life around?
---AlwaysOn on 12/13/09


Amen Alan

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For there is no Power but of GOD: the powers that be (civil powers) are ordained of GOD...Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power?
****

except society does not ALL believe in God

the civil powers are ordained by God YET not all civil authorities are God FEARING or are in awe of believe in HIS POWERS

in America the JURORS do not all follow or believe in God and do not SEEK God in their decisions in the courtroom

due to LACK of consulting God on behalf of majority of JURORS (who base their ruling on evidence) I believe capital punishment is just another murder it serves no purpose other than to appease society and its "victims"
---Rhonda on 12/13/09


Interesting that the Old Testament provides for the death penalty of children that disobey their parents, and for violation of the Sabbath - the foremost commandment in Adventism and other Hagarian sects. (see Gal. 4:24f)
---Lee1538 on 12/13/09


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Jerry is correct, the far left is drunk with illogic to be in favor of abortion and oppose the death penalty.
The right is equally pathetic because we know from the OT that no one would survive the penalty if given what they deserve.
Christ is the best argument against the death penalty due to its dependence on humans to fairly administer.

I oppose the death penalty because I have no right to interfere with God's plan for someone's life including my own.

Secular society however must have the penalty because they have no reliable internal controls on their wickedness

In short Christians should oppose the death penalty, but secular societies are required to have it.
---larry on 12/13/09


Did you ever notice that the majority of people who are against the death penalty are in favor of abortion? Go figure.
---jerry6593 on 12/13/09


While it may not be a sin as expressed by the Bible, to support the death penalty is really sinful if measured in terms of cost usually in the millions - money that can better be spent on something else.

And all too often we read of someone that has been on death row for years before evidence was presented (often DNA) that proved innocence. Our court system is not very good and often flawed.

If you were to view the death penalty on the basis of race, minorities has suffered the most lacking funds to defend themselves.

Thus I would vote against the death penalty except in cases of serial murderers.
---Lee1538 on 12/12/09


If you sin under the law you die by the law and God does not change. The law does not change as far as how God looks at the death penalty. He just sets people free from the law in their spirit. How simple is that?
---Paula_Zimmer on 12/12/09


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The death penalty is a govermental agent bringing judgement for henious crimes. if you will simply read Romans Chapter 13 you will see that agents of the goverment bring judgement on evil doers. Great care is taken so that this particular form of punishment is administered justly and compassionately. Yes you die but not in a cruel way. If it's constitutional then it is considered just. And we as chriastians must abide by Gods' Word.
---George on 12/12/09


Yes, Rhonda, and those unjust judges will get their just desserts in due time. But, in the meantime...GOD says in Romans 13:1-4 "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers (civil authorities). For there is no Power but of GOD: the powers that be (civil powers) are ordained of GOD...For rulers are not a terror to (those who do) good works, but, to the (ones who do) evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of GOD to thee for good. But, if thou do that which is evil, BE AFRAID, FOR HE BEARETH NOT THE SWORD IN VAIN, for he is the minister of GOD, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil!" This was written AFTER the Old Testament.
---Gordon on 12/12/09


Capital Punishment is the justified consequence according to Scripture. We need to learn to be afraid of sin, it brings damning consequences, GOD warns us so.
*****

in Gods World that would be correct and God determines who the nations "Kings" are today ...YET it is STILL Satan's world 2Corin 4:4

and not all the people on societies juries are living for the The Father in Heaven

to have death penalty ruling by people today is same as committing murder because the majority of jurors would not be CONSULTING God in their decision to give out a death penalty sentence - they consult lawyers evidence and human reasoning ...evidence and human reasoning fall short of divine inspiration
---Rhonda on 12/11/09


It seems to me that there are three purposes of punishment:

Retribution
Deterrence
Protection

I think the latter two are more valid than the first, for it is God who should PUNISH.

But, however valid it is to protect society (perhaps by the death penalty) from murderes and rapists, I am worried by the demonstrable possibility of mistaken identity, and the execution of the innocent. It has happened many more times than once.
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/11/09


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I don't think the death penalty is a sin. But I don't think it is a requirement either. We don't execute people for blasphemy the way they used to... and I don't think we should.
We can decide as a society what we want to do with those that choose to attack society. Murder, robbery etc are attacks on the civil socieety.
Personally I think we should execute more because some are simply incorrigable and do not belong in society at all, even in a prison society.
---Jim on 12/11/09


Gordon ... So Hitler was not sinning when he sent those 6 million to the gas chambers

????
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/11/09


---Tyge on 12/11/09

Tyge, I agree with all that you are saying except I think you forgot one scripture: God is the same yesterday, today and forever.

So whatever He said yesterday in the Old Testament, He is saying today and forever.

What about Ananias and Sapphira in the book of Acts who were struck down dead because they lied to the Holy Spirit? Wasn't that JUDGEMENT? It was God's judgement, but it was still Judgement, right?
---Donna on 12/11/09


The Death Penalty is not at all a sin. GOD said that He established the Civil Authorities in society, and these authorities do not bear the sword in vain. GOD Himself established the Old Testament Penalty of stoning to death anyone who broke His Law. We are still to enforce penalties for breaking Moral Laws. The Penalties differ nowaday according to the crime. But, if someone intentionally takes the life of another in cold blood, then Capital Punishment should be considered as a consequence. It's never right to intentionally take the life of an innocent person. For cold-blooded murder....Capital Punishment is the justified consequence according to Scripture. We need to learn to be afraid of sin, it brings damning consequences, GOD warns us so.
---Gordon on 12/11/09


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DON'T quote the old testament and contradict the new! Jesus said to love our enemies, turn the other cheek etc. The death penalty is judgment and we are not to judge but to forgive, as an example to all the world, as the 'salt' of the earth.

Today the death penalty is NOT used for punishment but rather control through fear. No government has the right to take the life of another human, only God has that right, "let him who is without sin cast the first stone' But all are guilty equally. "if your guilty of one sin, you're guilty of them all" etc etc etc
---Tyge on 12/11/09


What should the punishment be for those who falsely accuse and carry out a death sentence on the innocent?
What should the punishment be for all those who take part in these cases?
---AlwaysOn on 12/10/09

Judgement would/does not fall on the " all. It falls on the false accuser. "all" you refer to are judging by presented facts of false accuser.
GOD will sort this out....you think your bleeding heart saving a killer to kill again will clean you? You would be the dirtier one to me that let him kill again,again,again.

You are an example why it is twelve + 1 that judge in U.S.. I would be the other.
---Trav on 12/11/09


What should the punishment be for those who falsely accuse and carry out a death sentence on the innocent? As I'm sure many of you are aware, a lot of people have been released from death row after their innocence was discovered. Unfortunately, however, some were only found innocent AFTER their execution.

What should the punishment be for all those who take part in these cases?
---AlwaysOn on 12/10/09


No, abortion is sin. The murderer is guilty - deserving of death. The unborn are innocent.
---jerry6593 on 12/10/09


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No I don't think it's a sin, for a number of reasons, number one being it's mentioned in the Bible. Also, if my brother's killer had been put to death, he wouldn't have been around to harm all his future victims, such as at least one child he molested.
---Mary on 12/7/09

Yeah, I'm with you. There is a difference between killing and murder. Jesus even advised to sell the garments and buy a sword. But, you won't hear many socialist,effeminate or wolves preach this.

Anyone of the bleeding hearts that are confused on the subject would throw the first execution rock if any member of their family were murdered/molested or otherwise.
---Trav on 12/9/09


I agree with josef except that the bible tells us if you shed a man's blood, your blood shall be shed.

josef said: However I would ask what man is qualified to carry out the sentence?

NO ONE is except we live in a land under laws and have to obey the laws of this land and since murdering someone is unlawful as well as a crime, when a law is broken, and a crime is committed punishment must take place because if that person isn't punished under the laws of the United States or whatever country they live in, wouldn't it be likely they will commit the crime again?
God did say if you shed a man's blood, your blood shall be shed. If we believe in the death penalty, we are agreeing with God. A Crime must have it's punishment, amen?
---anon on 12/8/09


God has a good reason for commanding some people to death. We can't change God's reasoning. We just have to accept what HE says and live with it.
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when God was working with ancient Israel ...today through society and courts it is determined who lives or dies making society ABOVE The Father in Heaven ...a group of people determining through "evidence" is not the process with The Father in Heaven

no mortal man has the right to determine who lives or who dies

although RARE society has locked up innocent people - it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to understand it is very possible a few innocent people have been executed through death penalty - people make errors - God doesn't
---Rhonda on 12/8/09


Bingo, Josef and Cluny!

And not only is man unqualified to carry out the sentencing (as they were unqualified in John 8), but man is also, at times, deliberately corrupt or otherwise found to be wrong in his accusations and judgment. One only needs to look at the cases of people who have been executed and later found to be innocent, or those who have had their innocence surface and been released from imprisonment while waiting to be sent to the death chamber.

As long as corruption exists within the system, how can anyone support the system?
---AlwaysOn on 12/8/09


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"Is The Death Penalty A Sin" No.
However I would ask what man is qualified to carry out the sentence?
What man under the leadership of the Holy Spirit would be comfortable in taking the life of another?
Jesus said "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill, and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:"
The believer is instructed not to render evil for evil, but contrariwise blessing, for to this we are called, that we should inherit a blessing.
Take those deserving of death permanently out of society and require of them daily, constructive work for society.
---josef on 12/8/09


Only God gives life, and only God can take life.

In John 8, our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ gave the qualifications for the executioners.
---Cluny on 12/8/09


NO!

I've was told that anybody who is a "true" Christian CANNOT support the death penalty. This came from the Pastor of a non-Catholic, Evangelical church. Hmmm.

If the Bible commands it, then I have to support it. That Pastor was obviously wrong. I won't ever visit his church again.

God has a good reason for commanding some people to death. We can't change God's reasoning. We just have to accept what HE says and live with it.
---Sag on 12/7/09


No!!! The death penalty is a major consequence of sin & is seen (even ordered by God) throughout the Bible to punish lawless people.


1. God has established law & governments to deal with lawless people & to maintain good civil order.

2. Unrepentent sinners are living under conviction of sin & face the penalty of eternal death.
---Leon on 12/7/09


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No I don't think it's a sin, for a number of reasons, number one being it's mentioned in the Bible. Also, if my brother's killer had been put to death, he wouldn't have been around to harm all his future victims, such as at least one child he molested.
---Mary on 12/7/09


Yes, killing a person because it is said that they have killed a person does not bring back the first person which was killed, but instead now two people are killed rather than just one. If a killer does not repent, then they will indeed perish, for vengeance belongs Jesus: but if a person whom has killed a person repents for their crime then they should be forgiven. Jesus Commands: "You all have heard that said, Eye for an eye, and tooth for tooth: but I say to you, revenge not whom bad, but if anyone strike you on the right cheek, turn to whom your other. You all have heard that it was said, You will love your neighbor, and hate your enemy: but I say to you, Love your enemies."
---Eloy on 12/7/09


No, I personally do not think the "death penalty" is a sin, since Romans Ch 13 tells us that the Government was ordained of God to enforce right. If the death penalty were a sin then God Himself would be guilty of murder since we have many references to God's command to stone people for various offemces.
---tommy7376 on 12/7/09


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