Is Circumcision For Today
Because your Christian friend was studying in Israel, having his son circumcised may have been something that could facilitate his relations with Jews. Paul had Timothy circumcised despite neither he nor the Jerusalem council demanded it.
Like today, there are many who believe Gods laws should be followed even if they are found only within the Old Testament. Things such as the dietary laws, Sabbath observances, etc. - optional in the New Covenant (Romans 14)
Acts 16:3 Paul wanted Timothy to accompany him, and he took him and circumcised him because of the Jews who were in those places, for they all knew that his father was a Greek.
The Jews feel much better around those who can identify with their religion.
---Lee1538 on 2/20/10|
"Is there any biblical reason for a christian male .... or for a believer's male children to be circumcised?"
Other than as a preventive aid concerning one's physical health. No.
"For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but faith which worketh by love."
If one is circumcised, [because one deems it necessary to fulfill a biblical law] Christ shall profit you nothing. For every man that is circumcised, [for the aforementioned reason] is a debtor to do the whole law.
Circumcision is indeed advantageous, if one practices the law: but if that one transgresses any of the law, then the physical circumcision is pointless.
Post refs. Gal 5:2,3,6,>6:15>Rom 2:25-29
---Josef on 12/16/09|
1st of all, you need to read the Scriptures IN CONTEXT pertaining to each individual "item" of interest/concern. The Laws of Moses were given for the nation of Israel, and was intended to set them apart from the nations around them. Circumcision was given as a sign of the covenant between God and Abraham and was restated in the Mosaic Covenant, it is therefore of no intended significance to the Christian believer because we receive the "circumcision" of the Holy Spirit in our spirits.
---tommy7376 on 12/16/09|
Circumcision was a token of the Abrahamic covenant.
The rainbow is a token of Gods covenant to never destroy the earth with a flood again
The Holy Spirit is the token of the new covenant
---JackB on 12/16/09|
"I take Jesus very seriously in Matthew 5 when he says that he came to fulfill and not abolish the law.
Additionally, I read in the New Testament that those that are non-Jewish are grafted in through Abraham by faith. Abraham believed God when it was not reasonable according to his human experience and it was accounted to him as righteousness (Genesis). This happens before he is circumcised and he is told that circumcision is to be the sign of God's covenant with Him. This covenant is shared by those that are grafted in by faith rather than blood.
Just so you know, I do not believe that circumcision has anything to do with salvation! It is rather obedience to God's teaching."
From a friend, what do you think?
---Rod4Him on 12/15/09|
The laws, the ordinances, the commandments of the old covanent and the new is like a mortgage - the laws are the same, but the terms are different.
We all must be circumcised according to the law -
the old covenant a physical circumcision, the new covenant a spiritual circumcision. But God DID teach both in the old testament (Jeremiah 4:4).
1 Corinthians 7:19
It is LOVE that will get you into heaven.
---Steveng on 12/15/09|
Circumcision was a jewish covenant, required under law Ex 12:48-50
Gen 17: 9. And God said unto Abraham, Thou SHALT keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
10. This is my covenant, which ye SHALL keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee, Every man child among you SHALL be circumcised.
---michael_e on 12/15/09|
When I read the word obedience questions always come to my mind. Because I am concerned about salvation the verse Romans 5:19, always comes to mind. And it says,"For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous." This scripture offers the greatest comfort to me because I realize that it is not my obedience but the obedience of the Lord Jesus Christ that my salvation rests upon.
But as concerns your friend we might recall the saying," when in Rome to as the Romans do". Certainly it is inconsequential except for appearance's sake.
---mima on 12/14/09|
I agree with Cluny and mima. The reason I proposed this question is because I have a christian friend who is studying in Israel, and he just had a son born.
He told me that his son will be circumcised the 8th day for "obedience," not for salvation.
Umm...my friend's point of view is troubling, and I want to hear different points of view and see if there is any sense in what is presented. I know folks on these blogs are usually very informed and express different points of view.
---Rod4Him on 12/14/09|
---Cluny is correct. For the Gentiles circumcision represents a health issue.
---mima on 12/14/09|
Read Acts 15.
It deals with this very issue.
Furthermore, St. Paul had some salty words about requiring Gentile Christians to be circumcised for religious reasons.
This, of course, says NOTHING about circumcision when recommended for medical reasons.
---Cluny on 12/13/09|