Thanks Donna66, sometimes a person needs to hear what they know they need to hear. thanks |
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---Rod4Him on 3/10/10 |
Rod4Him ...If it was my father (he lived to 97) I'd pray for the Lord to stop his violent impulses or protect others from them. I'd pray that the people he "sees" that aren't there, would not agitate him.
I'd ask the Lord to ease his breathing. AND I'd ask for patience ...your task is very difficult and I applaud you for undertaking it. ( If you doubt his salvation pray about this, too. Faith doesn't depend on being completely oriented.)
When he is gone (which won't be too much longer) you will be glad you cared for him as you have. |
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---Donna66 on 3/9/10 |
Interesting question. Each situation is different, however, here's a current story.
My wife and I have been taking care of her father, who is almost 91. He sees people outside who aren't there, sees unseen people in the room, talks to people not there, sleeps most the time, can't eat without falling asleep, can't dress or undress by himself, can't shave by himself, can't breath well, breaths sometime like a fish out of water, has congestive heart failure, becomes violent sometimes, tried to choke my wife the other night, so how does one pray? |
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---Rod4Him on 3/8/10 |
NO! God might do it. He is a merciful God....Make sure it is God. Make sure you are saved, forgiven of your sins, my friends. Sorry about the pain.++ |
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---catherine on 3/8/10 |
I am not sure, though it is true that Elija (strange, since he was one of only two people who never died) did either ask God to die or stated he wanted to die, so no, it is not wrong, especially when one is in great pain. But he should remember that maybe, God will keep him alive to show what God can do. In the end, in Heaven, he will see WHY either God allowed him to die sooner, or kept him alive longer |
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---Peter on 3/8/10 |
Unless you have been in the severe intractable pain, day in and day out, and have given up an active life for one in which any movement causes pain...perhaps you should not be so quick to advise. (family could ask the MD if his pain can't be better managed)
At age 71, most people are not in denial about death as are younger people. They've seen peers die all around them and know that that their time is limited.
There's a chance for a miracle. And that's the only way healing can come for him. I would pray for healing, more especially pain relief. A prayer for his his survival might be partly because I would miss him if he dies. BUT perhaps God will relieve his pain by taking him home. Nothing wrong with that. |
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---Donna66 on 3/7/10 |
Unless you have been in the severe intractable pain, day in and day out, and have given up an active life for one in which any movement causes pain...perhaps you should not be so quick to advise. (family could ask the MD if his pain can't be better managed)
At age 71, most people are not in denial about death as are younger people. They've seen peers die all around them and know that that their time is limited.
There's a chance for a miracle. And that's the only way healing can come for him. I would pray for healing, more especially pain relief. His survival would fill my need, because I would miss him if he dies. BUT perhaps God will relieve his pain by taking him home. Nothing wrong with that. |
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---Donna66 on 3/7/10 |
I agree with amand6348 comments.
Those of us not in pain cannot know how difficult it is.
I would just like to encourage you with the scripture (Romans 8:18)that tells us that the sufferings of the present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that shall be revealed in us.
It is not easy to watch a loved one suffer...I have done this with two family members so I know.
I will be praying for your brother's healing and peace of mind. God Bless.
Sandy G |
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---Sandy_G on 3/7/10 |
Instead of asking for death, why don't you pray for your brother to be healed of his pains. But you must believe with all your heart that he will be healed.
Have a strong heart in the Lord, and God bless. |
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---JoelV. on 12/22/09 |
\\ Elijah asked God to die so yes I would say yes it is all right for your brother to this.
---mima on 12/21/09\\
And did Elijah die?
No, he has not. |
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---Cluny on 12/22/09 |
Bob, Anger at the Almighty and hurling ultimatums at him usually do not acquire any positive response from him, but if Bud really wants the Almighty Jesus's help, then Bud should go to Jesus in prayer with a surrendering, penetant and seeking heart, in order to seek out his help and his healing. |
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---Eloy on 12/22/09 |
He can ask God for anything He wants. For the Word says to cast all of our cares onto Him. I Peter 5:7
Casting all your care upon Him, for He careth for you.
As long as he doesn't kill himself he should be okay. |
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---amand6348 on 12/22/09 |
My brother has many problems but the major one is his spinal column has deteriorated so bad that he can't be operated on. All of his nerves are affected and any kind of movement results in some type of pain. His only relief comes when he falls asleep. I pray for him daily and he has had a lot of prayers offered up on his behalf. He also prays for himself and others to be healed. He said "I got angry and asked God to either heal me or take me home". He is 71 years old and his pain got worse over the last 15 years. He use to be able to get around but now he can't hardly get out anymore. His name is Bud and he can use your prayers. God Bless You! |
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---Bob on 12/21/09 |
Elijah asked God to die so yes I would say yes it is all right for your brother to this. |
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---mima on 12/21/09 |
There's a scripture that says, "He works all things after the counsel of HIS will."
Your brother should ask God, "Lord, I'm suffering greatly down here, can I ask you to please reveal YOUR will in this situation?" "Is it your will for me to be healed? then please show me HOW you want to do it. If it's your will for my brother to die, please take him Lord, in Jesus name I pray."
When my mother was ill in 2002 and almost dying, I asked the Lord, "What is your will in my mother's life?" The Lord began to give me scriptures on healing and I read them to her and spoke them out every day at the hospital. Today my mother is healed of that disease, but has other ailments she's dealing with. |
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---Donna on 12/21/09 |
He should be asking Almighty God to heal him and to take away his pain instead. |
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---Eloy on 12/21/09 |
He can find out with God what to do. |
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---Bill_bila5659 on 12/19/09 |
It is easy to say "I want to die". But why not have your brother ask God how He can use him to minister to others instead of seeking death? His testimony about how he trusting God will make a greater positive impact than asking God to end his life. |
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---Nick on 12/19/09 |
You've not said what illness your brother has.
I know a man who is on 180 mg of morphine, as well as a fentanyl patch and Vicodin to control his pain from fibromyalgia (and these do not totally remove it but merely bring it to a tolerable level), but he lives as full a life as possible.
While he does not want extraordinary means to prolong his life--and has executed a document to this effect--he loves going out to eat, going to the movies, going to the store, and especially going to church as much as he can. |
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---Cluny on 12/19/09 |
No sweetie, I wouldn't say it's wrong, it is sad all the way around though. My brother just lost his wife to painkillers and he's in unbearable pain right now. Maybe pray for physical relief from all the pain? I'm not honestly sure what to say, I think my sister-in-law's recent death may be keeping me from giving you a good answer but know you're in my prayers, as is your brother, dear one. God bless you. |
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---Mary on 12/19/09 |
God understands the heart of your brother and loves him. The Bible says that we can ask God "Aba" "Father" anything. Everyone has an appointed time to pass away and if it is within God's will for your brother's life to end then his prayer is not in vain. I will keep him in my prayers. Praying for death is not to be misconstrued with suicide. Prayer is not a sin while suicide is. |
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---jody on 12/19/09 |
Right or wrong? 1Jo 3:20,21 'I believe' the Father gives His children the option of asking "LORD receive my spirit". Without holding that request against them.
When I was 12, maybe 13, my grandmother who raised me said to me the night before she died. "Are you able to care for yourself" (she knew that neither my natural mom or dad would step up). I said why? I have you to care for me."
She asked me again "can you care for yourself when I am gone? I need to know." I said yes. The next morning she was gone. She chose to go home, and Father honored her choice. Her reason? The following day she was scheduled to lose her limbs to diabetes and did not want to be a burden on anyone. |
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---Josef on 12/19/09 |
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