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Alan, Hi Alan. "drunkard" and "alcoholic" both address a person's constitution which is organically impaired from intoxication. And both the drunkard and the alcoholic should abstain from alcohol because it damages their health, and usually their drinking also has adverse effects on other people around them. If a drunkard "knowingly" drinks, shame on them: likewise if an alcoholic "knowingly" drinks, then likewise shame on them too. But I would not incorrectly call any person whom has not drank any alcohol for 10 years an alcoholic, instead I would rightly call them a "nondrinker", one who does not drink alcohol- which is a good thing, a very good thing.
---Eloy on 1/9/10


Steveng ... I did see your "answers"
Effectively you called my friend and myself liars.
Thank you.
---a;am8566_of_uk on 1/9/10


Drunkedness, alcoholism.

Let me borrow a quote form Shakespeare: "A rose by any other name is still a rose."
---Steveng on 1/8/10


alan8566_of_uk: "Steveng ... Can you explain the case of my friend?

Can you explain your own refusal to answer questions?"

I did answer you, but you did not see it.
---Steveng on 1/8/10


Steveng ... Can you explain the case of my friend?

Can you explain your own refusal to answer questions?
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/8/10




Steveng ... "Just because it's not there in black and white it doesn't mean it's not there. This is where most christians fail. This is a main reason there are many interpretations"

No, Steveng, the reason there are many interpretations is that so many people invent or imagination things which are not there, distorting Scripture to meet their own preconceptions or prejudices.

Exz's statement ""The Bible says that people who are alcoholics are drunkards" The Bible does not say this ...he is making it up to support his incorrect denial of the nature of alcoholism.

His (and your) continued avoidance of answering about my friend demonstrates the weakness of your arguments.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/8/10


StevenG: You miss the whole point of the discussion. Scripture uses the word "Drunk" or "Drunkard" not alcoholic. Alcoholism is a medical/psychiatric term that does not always mean the same things as "Drunkenness."

Because alcoholism is a medical/psychiatric condition, it is covered by medical insurance, under a person's mental health benefits.

The state of being drunk is sin. The condition of being addicted to alcohol is not equal to drunkenness, because I know plenty of people in AA who have been off alcohol for decades, but could go right back to the state of drunkenness if not careful.

You could use a study of 1 Corinthians 13, and learn to live in love.
---Trish9863 on 1/7/10


Trish and Alan, You depend too much on the letter of the bible instead of the concept behind it, on symantics instead of how it's defined in a spiritual manner. Just because it's not there in black and white it doesn't mean it's not there. This is where most christians fail. This is a main reason there are many interpretations. This is where a person needs to depend on the Holy Spirit for guidance - not concordances, novels, dictionaries, and other christian reference books all of which are interpretations of man.

As for me, I don't know verses and I don't memorize verses, but I do know the context of what is written. After fifty years of meditating on the words of God, you, being a person of the world, would think I would.
---Steveng on 1/7/10


I have been commenting on here for over two years what other rule do you have that I don't Know about. I unusually just get fed up with all the re posting and just leave it to all the others for a while. And I feel that coming on, I do not like to waste my time. All it does is make people mad because they think I am provoking them and can't answer them.
---exzucuh on 1/7/10


Are you following all of the rules? We don't know of any other users having problems getting posted outside of either their computer or breaking the rules. Our computers stop rule breakers and don't even send the message to the Mods.
---Moderator on 1/7/10




I know what I have written and I have to write things over and over It is not my system. It works fine and I have excellent internet service.
---exzucuh on 1/7/10


Exzucuh, we have posted 100% of your posts that we have received. Either your computer or our system is not sending to the Mods. Just made sure the rules are followed and that we really get the post. Thanks.
---Moderator on 1/7/10


They will not post my replies.
---exzucuh on 1/7/10


Trish ... I think he is playing for time

He is unable to answer the questions, or to support his outlandish claims, nor his untruths about what the bible says.

He will go on doing this until the blog has reached its 75 posts, and then be able to run away and think he has won.

He's done that several times before
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/7/10


Exc: Those are terrific verses which I believe apply to unbelievers. Since I, a believer, have asked you for verses to support your thesis that alcoholics are drunkards, which you say is in God's Word, I do not understand why you would post verses about unbelievers.

I am guessing you believe I am an unbeliever. Well, you are wrong. You, however, are a fraud, because you make outlandish statements about God's Word, and then refuse to back up your statements with the scripture that proves what you claim.
---Trish9863 on 1/7/10


2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

2 Peter 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
---exzucuh on 1/7/10


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Exz ... You say ... "But in the sense of standing with the word of the Gospel. I will be Judged for every word I speak, I take that serious"

I then would repeat mine of 1/7:

Exz ... You accuse my friend of being a liar.

You deny the facts of her case

You state the Bible says something when it does not.

You make God into a being who us not concerned with our real lives

What a witness!


But it is for God, not us to judge you
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/7/10


Exc: You said, "But in the sense of standing with the word of the Gospel. I will be Judged for every word I speak, I take that serious."

Well, if this is true, why do you not show us the Bible verses that say an alcoholic is a drunkard, as you claimed previously. I have been asking for that, as you claim to stand with the word of the Gospel, but when asked to show us where in that word, something you claim is found, you either can't or won't show the chapter and verse.

I think you are a fraud, and cause dissension and confusion.
---trish9863 on 1/7/10


I prayed for several years & asked God to help me to leave the sweets alone & He did.
It sure has helped me to lose some weight & I sure do feel better.
---Lawrence on 1/7/10


---alan8566_of_uk on 1/6/10 Credibility? What is that. Do you think I am a man pleaser, who compromises the word for praise of men. If you do, you know nothing about me or my ministry.
I would like people to consider me credible.
But in the sense of standing with the word of the Gospel. I will be Judged for every word I speak, I take that serious.

Colossians 3:24-25 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ. But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
---exzucuh on 1/6/10


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Alan: I thank God that you understand alcoholism and are supportive of your friend. The physical addiction an alcoholic has does not go away with abstinence from the alcohol, it lays dormant until it is fed, as your friend's was, with the spiked drink.

Praise God she has friends like you, who understand, do not judge or condemn, and can be there for her as she works her program and stays sober.

I am blessed with friends like you here in the US. I am also blessed by the people I meet in AA, and the sponsor I have who, like you, understand the addiction, and support, encourage and do not judge or condemn. Pity the people who lack such support.
---Trish9863 on 1/7/10


Yes, start with sincere praying to Jesus and asking him to help you in your eating, and then take active daily steps to help yourself in the discipline of eating: eat smaller portions, and for the most part eat during set meal times of breakfast and lunch and supper, rather than throughout the day. Avoid snacks that are High in calories and High in sugar and High in fat and High in sodium by reading the Nutritional value label on the food product- and instead, choose foods that are Low in calories and Low in sugar and Low in fat and Low in sodium. And besides avoiding foods high in sodium, also avoid foods containing High Fructose Corn Syrup and foods high in sugar. And continue to pray daily to Jesus for his Almighty help.
---Eloy on 1/7/10


Exz ... You accuse my friend of being a liar.

You deny the facts of her case

You state the Bible says something when it does not.

You make God into a being who us not concerned with our real lives

What a witness!
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/7/10


Exz ... "As for unknowingly being spiked, God protect us even from being poisoned by another person" Well God did not for this Christian lady, although he helped her overcome the resurgent craving. And bearing in mind the truth of the story, your comment about her being weak in controlling her desire is an absolute insult

Exz ... Tell that to the hundreds opf people who have been killed by mistakes in doses of medicines, anaesthetics, let alone deliberate poisoning.

And those who died from asbestosis, following years of working in an unknown dangerous atmosphere.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/7/10


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Trish and Alan, you both may have worldly knowledge, but your worldly knowledge does not discern spiritual matters.

The bible does not forbid the drinking af alcohol (except in certain matters), but it it does condemn drunkenness and its effects. Christians are to have self control and not allow their bodies to be mastered by anything. It is usually best to abstain from drinking alcohol. As for unknowinly being spiked, God protect us even from being poisoned by another person.

Alan, your friend is not an alcoholic if she can go years without craving, but she is weak in controlling her desires.
---Steveng on 1/6/10


exzucuh, have patience with those who are weak in the faith.
---Steveng on 1/6/10


Phil 4:13 I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.

2 Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline.

Other scriptures concerning help, wisdom, power, grace, etc.. can support your efforts. I was an alcoholic and God healed me 25 years ago. I met other Christians that God healed from their addictions completely, but some need extra help from support groups. If an individual is sincere and truly wants to overcome an addiction they can succeed. God's tender mercies are new every morning.
---Bob on 1/6/10


I'm off the merry go round I have already said enough. I know when I'm wasting my time.
---exzucuh on 1/6/10


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Exz ...

You made several untrue statements, and refuse to justify them.

Where does scripture say that alcoholism and drunkenness are synonym? It is up to you to prove it does say that. Although it is not for us to prove it does not, we havce in fact doine so, but stating the truth that the word is word alcoholic is not even used in the Bible

You will not answer the true example I gave of an alcoholic who did not drink.

You now write an incomprehensible post.

You are losing your credibility

---alan8566_of_uk on 1/6/10


The good news is that when you receive Christ, you are no longer what you were. You are a new creature. That is what we are to believe. It is the foundation of discovering exactly what we are made of instead of what we were made of.
---Linda on 1/6/10


Exc: I never claimed that the word alcoholic was in scripture. I did not make outrageous claims that certain things were in God's Word. YOU DID.

I know that an alcoholic is a person who has an addiction to alcohol, whether they drink today, or their last drink was 20 years ago. You are wrong on this matter.

I also know that drunkenness is a sin, but an alcoholic can live life without alcohol, and still be an alcoholic.
---Trish9863 on 1/6/10


---Trish9863 on 1/6/10 You show me the verse that says a drunkard is not an alcoholic. It is up to you to prove that. Not me, I already know that it is. I am convinced because I am an intelligent person and I know that a person that gets drunk is not an alcoholic but a person that gets drunk all the time and will not stop Is an alcoholic, they stay drunk, they love alcohol more than their loved ones or God or themselves. They drink until they ruin their lives and their families lives. They are drunkards and they are alcoholics.
A person that does not drink is not a drunkard or an alcoholic.
---exzucuh on 1/6/10


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Alan: Did you notice that Exc has yet to show us the verses he swore were in scripture about alcoholics being drunkards, and all that dribble he claims is in the Word?
---Trish9863 on 1/6/10


Jeremiah 17:5 Thus saith the LORD, Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

Galatians 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

1 Corinthians 1:19-20 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
---exzucuh on 1/6/10


Steveng ... The story is not hypothetical. It is 100% true.

My wife and I knew the lady as a totally sober person with a long-past history of drink. We witnessed the effect in the months after the unfortunate incident when she was given a spiked drink.

Alcoholism is a medical condition, which is still there, even after years of no consumption, and the welcome absence of any craving. Any consumption of alcohol, even unknowing, can trigger the renewal of the craving.

You chose to use a different and judgmental definition of the word ... which does not reflect thje reality of this illness.

Don't judge others, Steveng and Exzuhah ... just say a prayer of thanks that you don't have this horror of a condition.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/6/10


StevenG: I think the DSM-IV, my therapist, my AA Big Book, and my years of intensive study on the subject of addictions and alcoholism in women qualifies me to understand and use the word alcoholism much more than your challenge on the definitions. I am an alcoholic, whether I drink today, or have not had a drink in years. Your dictionary definitions are not as qualified as the DSM-IV, the book, Alcoholics Anonymous, and the extensive research that has been done on this topic in the addiction community.

I have worked in the field of addictions since 2003, and will continue to do so, hopefully, till I am too old to get to work.
---Trish9863 on 1/5/10


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alan8566_of_uk: "Steveng ... Can you explain the case of the lady I spoke about?"

A good hypothetical story. You surely need to brush up on the meanings of words for alcoholism is a "continued excessive or compulsive use of alcoholic drinks." If she hadn't had a drink in ten years, she surely isn't classified as an alcoholic.
---Steveng on 1/5/10


Exz ... In your wisdom, can you please explain how the lady referred to in mine of 1/3 was a sinner at the time she was duped into taking alcohol.

After 10 years abstinence, she was no drunkard.

Please explain.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/5/10


Trish9863: "I am a alcoholic. My alcoholism is not sin. IF I get drunk, then I sin."

Do you desire to be an alcoholic?

Who says you are an alcoholic?

Do you still drink?
---Steveng on 1/5/10


In a world where so many are starving to death each day, your gluttony issues my seem some what trivial.

Yes of course God can act if He should care to, but I feel he would likely address the starvation issues first.
---Friendly_Blogger on 1/5/10


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All of these things are caused by lust what ever people lust after it Kills them. If you lust after the vain self love of your body you become addicted to the perverted behavior and it will destroy the person who has given their life over to such perversion.

Psalms 106:13-15 They soon forgat his works, they waited not for his counsel: But lusted exceedingly in the wilderness, and tempted God in the desert. And he gave them their request, but sent leanness into their soul.

Numbers 11:34 And he called the name of that place Kibrothhattaavah: because there they buried the people that lusted.
---exzucuh on 1/5/10


Steveng: I have never said that drunkenness, the state of being drunk, is anything but sin. BUT, there is a huge difference between a person in a state of drunkenness, and a nondrinking person who is addicted to alcohol. I am a alcoholic. My alcoholism is not sin. IF I get drunk, then I sin.

That is like saying an obese person with Type II Diabetes is in sin for being diabetic. Had they watched their diet and weight, they might not have diabetes. Being diabetic is not the sin, overeating, especially the consumption of sugary foods, is the sin.

But then, I am not arguing for sake of argument. Exc made outlandish statements claiming to quote scripture, but has never backed up his claims with the chapter and verse.
---Trish9863 on 1/4/10


Steveng ... Can you explain the case of the lady I spoke about?
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/5/10


Trish: \\ Cluny: Sorry to correct you, but having been in EATING DISORDER treatment with people with bulimia and anorexia, ....\\

Cluny: // Let's not forget that bilumia and anorexia nervosa are EATING PROBLEMS, too.//

Emphases added.

I think we are saying the same thing in different words. Is there any real difference between "problem" and "disorder" in this context? Doubtless "disorder" would be used clinically.

And there was no intention to link AN and BI with gluttony. Perhaps I should have made a better transition.
---Cluny on 1/5/10


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Cluny: Sorry to correct you, but having been in eating disorder treatment with people with bulimia and anorexia, it has nothing to do with the food, or taste, and everything to do with distorted perceptions of body size and control. People with eating disorders do not truly see their bodies the way they truly are. Skin and bones, an anorectic sees a fat person when she looks in the mirror. More importantly, they use the food, or lack of it, as a control mechanism in relationships, mostly with authority figures like parents. Their lives are out of their control, so they control the one thing left, food intake. If they lose control of their food intake, they become very upset, and feel fat.
---Trish9863 on 1/4/10


A glutton is "one given habitually to greedy and voracious eating and drinking." An alcoholic is defined as "of, relating to, or caused by alcohol. (a drunkard is caused by alcohol). A drunkard is one who is habitually drunk. Three different words, the same outcome.

Deuteronomy 21:20
Proverbs 23:21 (the word glutton and druckard are used in the same sentence)
Romans 13:13


Also:
Ephesians 5:18

If one is truly saved then he can resist temptation. For those of you who mock exzucuh are making excuses of your sins.
---Steveng on 1/4/10


The people today who make excuses for their sins are too educated for their own good. Words in the English language have grown from 100,000 to over one million within the past few centuries each having several different meanings and you don't think that Satan has twisted these words to cover your sins? To make your sins look good? What is bad is now good and what is good is now bad much like the word "gay" (do you understand?) Knowledge has surely increase abundantly during these end times as shown not only by the number of words in the dictionary but that 95% of all scientists in all of earth's history lived within the past one hundred years. So you see, words have covered a multitude of your sins, but the sins still exist.
---Steveng on 1/4/10


Let's not forget that bilumia and anorexia nervosa are eating problems, too.

Screwtape has some interesting comments about the two kinds of gluttony: Gluttony of Excess (which is what most people think of) and Gluttony of Delicacy.

Even though the quantities in the latter are small, people caught by this are just as much enslaved to their own palatal pleasures as someone who eats too much.
---Cluny on 1/4/10


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Exz ... On another blog, you accuse others of ranting. You sound very much here as if you are ranting.

You have made various untrue statements:

"An alcoholic drinks to get drunk"
"The Bible says that people who are alcoholics are drunkards"
"Drunkard and Acoholic they are synonomous"
"An alcoholic is a person who drinks alcohol"

You have justified none.

Can you comment on the true story of my friend which I related on 1/3?

---alan8566_of_uk on 1/4/10


Exc: You have yet to show me the verse that says Alcoholics is the same as drunkards.

Now you say that the Bible says addiction is a sin. What verse says that?

Please educate me, because I am obviously ignorant of scripture and need to be shown the verses that have alcoholics and drunkards and now addictions.

You obviously know more than me on this matter.
---Trish9863 on 1/4/10


The carnal man is addicted to sin all sin is an addiction. The Bible says that God gives men over to their addictions.

2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

No matter what the sin gluttony, Drunkenness,
Adultery, fornication,sodomy ect. If you do not repent of it and change your ways through the help of God, you will become addicted to it. Repentance is confessing sin not denying it and calling it a disease.
---exzucuh on 1/4/10


Exz "An alcoholic drinks to get drunk"

You prove you know nothing of this illness, which is the result of previous excessive drinking.

A friend of mine is an alcoholic ... but had not drunk for ten years, and was 8 years free of the craving for alcohol.

Then at one function, a "friend" spiked her non-alcohic drink with tasteless alcohol.

She drank it innocently not knowing it contained alcohol.

Almost immediately the craving returned (after 8 years of freedom from it)

That is what alcoholism is, not your self righteous judgmental opinion of it
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/3/10


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Exc: I am also a Spirit filled, born again believer, who happens to be a recovering alcoholic. I participate in AA, and do not drink, but still could go right back to the addiction, if I take one drink.

Being born again did not take away my alcoholism. It gave me the power to resist the temptation to drink when I get tempted.\

My father was an alcoholic, his father, etc. What is your point? Just because your father was an alcoholic does not make you qualified to define terms.

You still have not shown me scripture that says an alcoholic is a drunkard, and is therefore not going to heaven. According to you, I am not heaven bound.
---Trish9863 on 1/3/10


1543, "fine powder produced by sublimination," from M.L. alcohol "powdered ore of antimony," Modern sense of "intoxicating ingredient in strong liquor" is first recorded 1753, short for alcohol of wine, which was extended to "the intoxicating element in fermented liquors." In organic chemistry, the word was extended 1850 to the class of compounds of the same type as this. Alcoholism "disease of alcohol addiction" is from 1852, alcoholic "one who is addicted to drinking in excess" is from 1891. Alcoholics Anonymous founded 1935 in Akron, Ohio, U.S. Alky is first recorded 1844 as a slang shortening of "alcoholic liquor," 1960 in the sense of "a drunkard.
---exzucuh on 1/3/10


---Trish9863 on 1/2/10 You are right I am out of my element I am not like you. I am a Spirit filled born again christian. I believe the word of God and know that a Drunkard and an alcoholic is the same thing. Jesus drank at every meal he was not an alcoholic, He did not drink to get drunk and he fasted on a regular bases so he was not addicted to alcohol. An alcoholic drinks to get drunk and a drunk person is a drunkard. And don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about because my wife and I both come from families that are Drunks and have had to deal with it all our lives.
---exzucuh on 1/3/10


Exzucah, where is your compassion?! My fiancee is an alcoholic, struggling to quit right now and he is hurting and suffering! Shame on you! You need a lesson in love.
---Mary on 1/3/10


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Exc: I quote you: "The Bible says that people who are alcoholics are drunkards. Now you say that is not true and say that I am saying this." Please, if you insist that the Bible says that alcoholics are drunkards, I need to know what chapter and verse this is in.

Now, you say, "The word alcoholic was in invented by people who wanted to make Drunkard sound more sophisticated."

Which one is it? Does the Bible say alcoholics are drunkards or not? You can't have it both ways.

Again, I believe you are out of your element in discussing alcoholism on this blog. You are totally clueless on the subject, and only want to pontificate some nonsense about something you know nothing about.
---Trish9863 on 1/2/10


\\
The word alcoholic was in invented by people who wanted to make Drunkard sound more sophisticated. They wanted to cover up sin with a word that could be a fig leaf. But they are still just as naked before God.
---exzucuh on 1/2/10\\

ALL words are invented by people. Didn't you know that?

There is a difference between alcoholism, which is a physical and mental disease, and simply drinking too much.

One can have an "alcoholic personality" (for lack of a better word) and never touch a drop.
---Cluny on 1/3/10


The word alcoholic was in invented by people who wanted to make Drunkard sound more sophisticated. They wanted to cover up sin with a word that could be a fig leaf. But they are still just as naked before God.
---exzucuh on 1/2/10


Exc: What Bible verse has the word "alcoholic" in it?
---Trish9863 on 1/2/10


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You people obviously are worldly in your understanding, Your definition is according to science which is foolishness to God. People who live by worldly ideas will perish for lack of Godly knowledge. You cannot have it both ways you have to chose this day whom you will serve. The friend of the world and it's idea's are the enemy of God. If they continue in worldly idea's that is rebellion and God gives them over to what they believe and the become subject to their own foolish ideas. Jesus said you have what you believe, it is according to your faith. If your faith is in the world and it's ideas then you are at the mercy of the world and it has very little mercy.
---exzucuh on 1/2/10


The Bible says that people who are alcoholics are drunkards. Now you say that is not true and say that I am saying this. But I am only telling you what the Bible says. People of this day are all alike as far as I can tell. The government redefines the constitution so it can give the rights to people to be immoral.
And people claiming to be christian redefine the meaning of the bible so they can have the right to be sinful and feel good about it. The truth to the whole matter is they will all go to hell and feel good about it all the way.
---exzucuh on 1/2/10


Exc: Again, you are clueless. An alcoholic has an addiction, which exists whether they are a believer or not, and whether they drink today, or three years ago.

I am a Christian, and I am an alcoholic, and I drank alcoholically as a believer and I am now in recovery. Study the subject before you post anymore.
---Trish9863 on 1/2/10


"Drunkard and Acoholic they are synonomous"

That is absolute RUBBISH.

I know an alcoholic who has not had a drink now for 10 years. No drunkard.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/1/10


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An alcoholic is a person who drinks alcohol. If you do not drink then you are not an alcoholic. A christian cannot be an alcoholic. A christian is a born again new creation. If they were once an alcoholic they cannot claim to be one, and claim to be born again. The old man must be dead, if the old man was an alcoholic you would have to resurrect him and back slide back into sin to be an alcoholic.
---exzucuh on 1/1/10


Exc: You have no clue what you are talking about. Alcoholics can go for years without having a drink, yet remain addicted. According to you, I am not going to heaven.
---Trish9863 on 1/1/10


Whats the matter did you people get convicted
People always start staining at gnats and swallowing camels when they get convicted.
---Drunkard and Acoholic they are synonomous---

1 Corinthians 5:11-13 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a ----DRUNKARD----, or an extortioner, with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that ---WICKED--- person.
---exzucuh on 1/1/10


1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor ---Drunkards---, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Drunkards or alcoholics will not inherit the kingdom of God.
---exzucuh on 1/1/10


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Exc: Alcoholism is the result of having drunk so much alcohol the body becomes addicted to it. The drunkenness is the sin. The state of being addicted to alcohol is NOT a sin, but a physical and psychological condition that requires medical and psychological treatment. Same for eating disorders and other addictions.
---Trish9863 on 1/1/10


Exz ... Alcoholism is NOT a sin.

It is the result of sin.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/1/10


Gluttony is a sin just like alcoholism
It is the lust of the flesh. Walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the Lust of the flesh
---exzucuh on 12/31/09


God can heal anything - but He's not a "Sugar Daddy". Many of a persons eating problems stem from a psychological problem.
For example: A person who deals with stress will sometimes eat rather than deal with the stress. Eating on a regular schedule is very important in controling weight. A person's day needs to start with a large breakfast. Ignor breadfast and there is a tendency to play, "catch up" all day. Don't diet! Diets will often times deny the body of proper nutrition, and all a person does is yo-yo in their weight because they pig out because the body needs certain nutrition which may have been denied when dieting. Try not to lose over 2 lbs a week or the bodies starvation mode may kick in.
---wivv on 12/31/09


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Yes, but God also heals different eating problems in different ways.

Some simply need to exercise self-control.

Some might have an underlying medical condition.

And some might be self-medicating emotional or mental issues with food.

There is one universal Healer, but He doesn't write the same Rx for everybody.
---Cluny on 12/30/09


"Can God heal excessive eating problems?" Of course.
The LORD is the source and sustainer of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for Him?
The things which may be or seem impossible with men are certainly possible with Him, and the believer can do all things through Christ which strengthens him.
"Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves, but our sufficiency [is] of God,"
For "He gives power to the faint, and to [them that have] no might he increases strength."
Therefore "As you have believed, so be it done unto you, for "If you can believe, all things [are] possible to him that believes" [It is possible].
---Josef on 12/30/09


I have suffered from binge eating disorder almost all my life. Like any other behavioral problem, learning new habits and breaking old habits is the key. The eating disorder is rooted in a lot of childhood trauma and sexual abuse. For some crazy reason, I learned to comfort myself with excess food, as faith was not a concern in my home.

Through a lot of discipleship, mentoring, therapy, and prayer, I am learning to trust God loves me, and cares about me, and does not judge or condemn me, unlike my childhood home. Slowly, I am learning to go to Him and not the food. Like any other learned behavior, I have days where I am successful, and days when I fail.

Praise God for 1 John 1:9.
---Trish9863 on 12/30/09


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