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Can a person who is saved choose not to sin?

1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able, but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].

A way out to escape is always available. All we have to do is choose to take the way out and not sin.
---francis on 11/8/10


We can choose not to sin but we will still sin. Everyday we sin. Whether we want to or not. We just cannot do it on our own. We are a sinful people. Saved by God's grace but we do sin. This is why we need a Savior and we need the Holy Spirit. I would love to be able to not sin but it is not possible, now. One day we will live in our glorified(perfect bodies) when we make it to heaven. But this world is dirty and full of sin. The dirt and sin gets in and on us(christians). This is why we need to confess and seek forgiveness from Our Father, at all times. This is why it is so important for christians to come down to earth. Not to judge others and focus on our own business. We,too, can fall(sin) at anytime.
---Robyn on 11/7/10


Francis, of course a person can choose not to sin. But he doesn't all the time. Another thing, all people sin, some times without knowing. If you had a chance to help someone and did not do it, it is sin. Every evil thought that comes to your mind is sin. If you slander someone, and that happens all the time here, it is sin. The one's who accuse everyone of sinning, sin more then the ones they accuse. So yes, a person can choose not to sin, but in this lifetime he will sin many times. The flesh has not been redeemed. The Bible will always call us not to sin. Would the bible say its ok to sin? Of course not, that is why you have so many passages calling us not to sin. But if we do sin, we have an Advocate in Jesus Christ.
---MarkV. on 6/9/10


Can a person who is saved choose not to sin?

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
---rfrancis on 6/9/10


Haz27... // But if we keep to Biblical definitions then there should be less confusion and error..// I have just explained why we are UNABLE to "keep to Biblical definitions of sin"...why doing so is not simple.

even if we try to "just keep to what God says in His word"...we are still prone to confusion and error. In other words, we are unable to save ourselves.

You are right, people often lose sight of what Jesus did on the cross for them and condemn themselves by their own works...or their failures. But, trusting Jesus, we can know that (Psa 103:12) As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.
---Donna66 on 6/9/10




Donna66. But if we keep to Biblical definitions then there should be less confusion and error. I have seen people bring themselves under condemnation by not knowing the definition of sin. They lost sight of what Jesus did on the cross for them and they judged themselves by works. It's best if we just keep to what God says in His word.
---Haz27 on 6/8/10


For those who define sin as breaking one of the ten commandments, avoiding sin is pretty simple. One can CHOOSE not to steal, murder, bear false witness.

If your standard is that of Jesus (love the Lord with all your heart and mind and your neighbor as yourself) it becomes more difficult. The first of these is broken by any trace of pride or self-centeredness (usually detected after the fact)
We CHOOSE to love our neighbor. But there are times we can hurt someone quite unintentionally. When a number of people, sometimes opposing each other, are in our lives, it can be complicated. How do we treat everyone as we would like to be treated and, at the same time, always take a stand for Righteousness?

The CHOICE is not so clearcut.
---Donna66 on 6/8/10


What is sin? To talk about "SIN" lets use Biblical definitions. Try these few.
1: Transgressing the law (1John3:4)
2: Unbelief (John16:8,9)
3: Blasphemy (Mark3:29)
So, are you STILL under the law that Jesus fullfilled on our behalf? Are you rejecting the gospel? Do you blaspheme the Holy Spirit? For Christians the answer to these question is..."NO".
---Haz27 on 6/8/10


EVERY person saved or unsaved can choose not to sin. In order to do this, it takes one of the Fruits of the Spirit (SELF-CONTROL).
---Leslie on 4/13/10


"There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus". For those who walk according to the Spirit and not the flesh. If we "set our minds on thing above and not on things of the world"sin is dead to us. One definition of sin is "anything done that is not of faith". I do not see sin as simply breaking of the 10 commandments. It's much broader since bc of Jesus sending His Holy Spirit, Gods laws are written upon our hearts, convicting or dismissing us. We do not want to sin bc of what Jesus did and love of God. Yes, we do choose not to sin. If we do sin, we" have an advocate with the Father, Christ Jesus".
---jody on 4/13/10




Yes, we can choose not to sin. However, we still sin. We are not perfect. God is not looking for perfect people. He is looking for people who needs Him. If we were perfect would we really need Jesus? This is why He came. How badly do you need a Savior, today? Note: We all have a sinful nature. Thanks to Adam and Eve.
---catherine on 4/13/10


They not only can choose not to sin, they must choose not to sin, or else they will go to hell.
---Betty on 4/13/10


Miche, the most important part is that each person who is saved must FIGHT SIN. This is what we must remember. I am not sure, but I feel that even things we do, and think they are not sin, may actually be sin. THe main part is the fight sin whenerver it comes to us.
---peter on 4/13/10


Hebrews 12:7-8 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons, for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
---Lee1538 on 1/13/10
1st, God doesn't chastise his children unless they do wrong.

2nd,Those who deal with chastisement and don't fall back into sin are the sons.

There is a difference between willful sin and un-willful.
In this relationship with God, he reveals his wants and needs to us as we grow.
We find that sometimes what we thought wasn't sin really is.
---miche3754 on 4/13/10


"The unsaved have no POWER to OVERCOME sin if sorely tempted."
Donna66 on 4/10/10

Luke 3:8: "Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance"
It is worth noting that John was calling common folk, and it was fruits of the spirit which he was requesting, mercy, compassion, justice, Luke 3.
Also Luke 6:43 and more remarcably, Luke 8:15: "But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience."
And it wasn't to a holy-roller that the Lord said, "Go and sin no more".
---Nana on 4/12/10


The answer is Yes, they MAY choose not to sin. Doesn't mean they always do.
The unsaved have no POWER to OVERCOME sin if sorely tempted. They may not ALWAYS sin, but no matter what they do, they can never be righteous in the eyes of God (until they accept Redemption by Jesus Christ).
---Donna66 on 4/10/10


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Can a person who is saved choose not to sin?

YES WE CAN

1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able, but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].
---francis on 4/7/10


Okay, I am understood more than I thought.
Great Scripture Mark E.
---miche3754 on 1/13/10


Lee1538:

Those people must ignore these Scriptures

Eph 4:24 "and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth"

2 Peter 1:4-5 "For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature.... now for this very reason also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge..."

Rom 6:13 "and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God."
---Mark_Eaton on 1/13/10


We make the choice to sin. As we daily kill the desires of our former life, the life of Christ becomes stronger in us causing us to become more like Jesus. The more like Jesus we become, the less and less we will sin or want to sin.
---Mark_Eaton on 1/12/10


Amen Mark E!!!!!
---miche3754 on 1/13/10


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Romans 6:17-18 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

But ye have obeyed from the heart.( meaning by the a working faith a faith that can be seen and proved.

That form of doctrine that freed you from sin
not made you free to sin.

Servants of righteousness meaning to serve,A servant must please his master and not do his own will but the will of the master and the master is righteousness.
---exzucuh on 1/13/10


Mark_Eaton //We make the choice to sin. As we daily kill the desires of our former life, the life of Christ becomes stronger in us causing us to become more like Jesus.

Totally agree but there are those who reject that one grows in Christ believing that once we become Christians, we no longer sin ("the old just add water & stir concept")

It is like MarkV stated in a previous post, these people cannot be chastised since they believe themselves sinless and thus are illegitimate.

Hebrews 12:7-8 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons, for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
---Lee1538 on 1/13/10


This is not a VERY difficult subject.

What makes it a difficult subject is our lack of control over our physical body or flesh.

Col 1:13 "For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son".

We have been transferred from one kingdom to another. Paul puts it another way:

Rom 6:18 "and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness".

We make the choice to sin. As we daily kill the desires of our former life, the life of Christ becomes stronger in us causing us to become more like Jesus. The more like Jesus we become, the less and less we will sin or want to sin.
---Mark_Eaton on 1/12/10


Any person can choose not to sin whether they are saved are not.

James 1:13-15 Let no man say when he is

tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot

be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he

any man: But every man is tempted,

when he is drawn away of his own lust,

and enticed.

Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth

forth sin: and sin, when it is finished,

bringeth forth death.

Anyone that teaches people they have to sin is helping Satan and his kingdom.
---exzucuh on 1/12/10


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Question:
Can a person who is saved choose not to sin?

This question sounds like it is concerning sanctification.

Maybe they can choose not to sin, but many times are powerless in this area. Paul believed he could choose not to sin, however found the 10th commandment "thou shall not covet" he could not control. That was a sin of the heart! (Romans 7) According to Romans 7, Paul, as as SAVED man, struggled with sin ( our TWO natures at war) with the answer.

How does God get rid of sin in our life? By getting rid of the sinner! Identification in death and resurrection life. Sin never dies, but we must die. Romans 6...Shall we continue to sin that Grace may abound GOD FORBID...Don't You KNOW that.....
---kathr4453 on 1/12/10


"Are you a pastor?" :o) No Mark I am not.
Thank you for the blessing, it is appreciated. Same to you sir.
---Josef on 1/12/10


Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Marriage is Holy in the Sight of God and when people marry it is at the Alter.
It is two people sacrificing their lives for each other in the sight of God and man.
The sacrifice of Sodomite marriage is unholy Matrimony and giving what is Holy to the Dogs.
It is the abomination of Desolation to God which means to sacrifice something unholy to God. 2010 will be the time to flee to the hills. God will give no more warning!
---exzucuh on 1/11/10


Romans 6:17-18 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

1 Corinthians 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not, for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
---exzucuh on 1/11/10


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Amen Miche,
That is what I meant also. HE has taken sin away, thats why we are not sinners.
We chose HIM and when we did, sin had no power anymore.
My point being, we chose HIM, therefore no sin. We could say when we chose HIM, we also chose not to be a sinner. Its not a daily thing, its a forever repentance of the heart. We have become overcomers.
---duane on 1/11/10

Finally!
'WHEW" and (she takes a deep breath!)
Maybe we were just passing each other, I don't know but I am glad we have figured out we were saying the same thing.
---miche3754 on 1/11/10


Amen Miche,
That is what I meant also. HE has taken sin away, thats why we are not sinners.
We chose HIM and when we did, sin had no power anymore.
My point being, we chose HIM, therefore no sin. We could say when we chose HIM, we also chose not to be a sinner. Its not a daily thing, its a forever repentance of the heart. We have become overcomers.
---duane on 1/11/10


"unless sin is taken away"
-Duane

This really caught my attention.
Hasn't Jesus already done that?
According to John 1:29 (King James Version)
He has.

"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world"

So, once you are in Christ, you become a saint(that is what I meant in my last post) you are no longer a sinner. You have the choice to sin or not.
---miche3754 on 1/11/10


Duane,
Brother,
I said we can choose not to sin when we have Christ.
What part of that don't you get?

Obviously you just aren't reading my posts all the way through. Go back and read them again. You will see I said the same thing you did.
Maybe you are just arguing for the sake of arguing instead of reading my post and seeing that I said "IN CHRIST". I am a saint saved by Christ. I live and walk after the Spirit not after the flesh which can send me to hell.
You want to disagree maybe because you have some unrepentant sin, I don't know. I do know that those who are IN CHRIST can choose NOT to sin.
---miche3754 on 1/11/10


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You can choose not to sin but that won't stop it from happening. Sometimes during our days and night we are going to sin. It may be a deed, word or action. Could be a thought. Could be a sin of omission. Sin comes in many.many forms that we are not even aware of,sometimes.This is why we are to confess,repent, and ask forgiveness, daily. Read the entire book of I John . It was written for the Christian. To put our minds at ease and answer these type questions. Galatians and Romans are exceptional books of the Bible, to help you with these type questions also. Blessings
---Robyn on 1/10/10


Miche,
HELLO!!..Dont you know your in bondage to sin without Christ. Who set you free from sin? It wasnt you!! You had and dont have any choice but to sin without the Cross. Your having the choice not to be a sinner is non-sense. The only choice you had was the decision to go to the Cross. Do you still claim to be a sinner? If you do, your choosing not to sin didnt do much good. I dont sin and never would claim Im a sinner because I believe HE CHOSE to set me free from sin.

We as humans(flesh), TRY as we may, cant choose to not sin,(wish it were that easy) for we all have sinned, and we all will sin until death unless sin is taken away.
---duane on 1/10/10


Joseph, your answer to me was the first one I read and let me say, I got a lot of help from your answer. Thank you for putting your words so well. There is a few who phrase statements so good like Shawn T, Lee, Donna, and a few others. My education does not allow me to phrase correctly many times, but I do what I can. I need to read what I post to make sure not only to speak the truth but because many out there are looking for reasons to destroy what I say, since I speak on many subjects and many effect others because they are very prideful of their denominations. Your advice I will take, and know it will help me in the future. Are you a pastor? Blessings and peace.
---MarkV. on 1/10/10


Thank you Mark, and bless you for your prayers. You, and those like yourself are a blessing to this site. You are passionate and steadfast in your beliefs and that is a beautiful thing. Always remember Mark, whatever a man believes to be true, is for that man truth, and will be what guides him. If that belief offers comfort, peace and a sense of security, who are we to argue it. Share the truth the Father has given you to embrace and trust Him that those "who have ears to hear" it, will. As you have advised others, do not allow yourself to be frustrated by what you may consider a lack of understanding on the part of another. To each his reach, and if one does not grasp, it is not that ones to have.
---Josef on 1/9/10


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Oh, absolutely! But, Satan is unbelievably strong, and sneaky, cunning. Must wait on victories from God, when dealing with Satan. Jesus knows our weaknesses. And Satan does, too.
---catherine on 1/9/10


Joseph, you do very good and I love all of your answers. you never really address anyone and you put your points across very good. I get more involve that is just my character. I try to not get angry at anyone, for I pray for all who are on Christianet everyday in the mornings. Some are sick that we know and others are sick we don't know about. Donna's story got to me and I am just sorry I cannot visit her. It is alway great to up lift our brothers and sisters who are going through very hard times or sick. Again keep the good work brother for all of it is for the glory of God.
---MarkV. on 1/9/10


Yes, that person can choose to sin or not to sin. We all make that chose.
---KarenD on 1/9/10


Duane, HELLO!!!!
Christ gives us the power to not sin if we don't want to!
Do you deny that ALL THINGS are possible with Christ?
Do you doubt that or are you just saying that to cover any disobedience(sin) you still have in your life right now?
Do you think your flesh is more powerful that Christ?
I know I don't. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Can you Duane?
DO you allow your flesh to rise up and you follow what your flesh wants? Or do you put your flesh under subjection of the Spirit.
Christ says who ever you yield your members to is who you will serve. And God doesn't force us to do anything.
---miche3754 on 1/9/10


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MarkV I understand, and agree. Perhaps I have misunderstood the question.
I was thinking in terms of commission rather than omission or impure thoughts.
Sort of on the line of "Be angry, and do not sin": do not let the sun go down on your wrath." or "Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but [rather] give place to wrath,"
These I consider choices. As you have shared "We are told to set our minds on things above and not on things of the world." Again, a choice.
Thanks for taking the time to read my post, and sharing your thoughts concerning it, I appreciate it.
---Josef on 1/8/10


Miche,
WE dont choose to not sin, as we dont have the power. It is the power of the Cross.
HE did it, not us.
If you can choose to not sin,or repent of sin your the first to do so. You have made yourself sinless.
---duane on 1/8/10


Joseph, #2: Let me explain a little further since you mentioned Jesus and what He told the lady who had sinned, to go and sin no more. Jesus couldn't possibly be suggesting that the sins of the heart and mind were included. I am sure He meant her adultery. You know evil thoughts and intentions are very sinful, yet people cannot stop doing them. They suddenly appear in your head. the Passage In Col. 3:5,6 speaks of those sins. We need to work on them. Covetousness, which reders "greed" a desire to gain more or have something someone has is a form of 'Idolatry" When people engage in either greed or the sexual sins, Paul has cataloged, they follow their desires rather then God's. In essence worshipping themselves.
---MarkV. on 1/8/10


Joseph, I love your answers but on this one I have to disagree. Why? the sins of the flesh. We can very well stop the sins of action. But not the thoughts that come from the heart into our minds. Some think you have to commit the act for it to be a sin. Some are. We are told to set our minds on things above and not on things of the world. We are to put to death our members which are on the earth. Fornication, also translated "Immorality" it refers to any form of sexual sin (lusting with our eyes) (Gal. 5:19, 1Thess.4:3), Uncleanness, which translates to "Impurity", this term goes beyond sexual acts of sin to encompass evil thoughts and intentions as well (Matt. 5:28, Mark 7:21,21, 1 Thess.4:3), continue,
---MarkV. on 1/8/10


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"Can a person who is saved choose not to sin?" Of course.

If not, then Jesus would have been assigning the woman caught in the act of adultery to an impossible task when he said to her " go, and sin no more."
As well as the impotent man who laid at the pool. Once healed, Jesus said unto him "sin no more."
The believer "can do all things through Christ which strengthen" the believer.
However it is important to always remember the words of Jesus concerning this. "Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you [are] the branches:.. without Me you can do nothing."
---Josef on 1/7/10


By nature the saved choose righteousness, and by nature the unsaved choose sinuousness.
---Eloy on 1/8/10


Again Duane,

It is Christ in us that makes it possible for us to choose not to sin.
Without Christ we would not have the choice to sin or not. We would just blindly follow our flesh.
With Christ, we can choose to walk after his spirit and not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.
So, yes , once we are saved we have a choice to sin or not everyday.
So we need Christ to be able to choose not to sin.
---miche3754 on 1/8/10


If we could choose not to sin, then we would not need Christ who sets men free from sin.
There is not one here who is without sin without the Cross. Only sinners under Adam.
We have now been made righteous(not sinners) through Christ. When will you people believe in what Christ came to do? Dont sit there and claim you can choose to NOT sin. Its Jesus Christ who takes sin away. We can only overcome through HIM. One sacrifice for all sin. That means past, present and future.
---duane on 1/7/10


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Yes, Mima, God knows all and sees all but he doesn't make you do or choose anything. The choice is entirely yours.
You can choose to sin or not.
You can choose to do God's will, or you can choose to do your own.
Sin once you are saved is a choice.
We are commanded to not sin but if we do, we have and advocate with the father.
And if Christ has given you a new heart, you won't want to sin.
The unsaved heart follows its flesh and has all kinds of evil in it.
The saved heart wants to do the will of God and prefers not to sin against him.
---miche3754 on 1/7/10


The very fact that God is omnipotent(all knowing) means that God is capable of forgiving sin before it is committed. God is outside of time, he is not limited by time, time was given to man in order for man to manage his time. And while God gave man time he himself is not concerned with time. We must be very careful and not try to place ourselves on a plane with God. But if we believe that our behavior determines our salvation then we are in effect making ourselves equal with God!!!
In reality our salvation is determined by God's(Lord Jesus Christ) behavior. And that behavior of course is completely righteous.
---mima on 1/7/10


Nope, I believe that once I am saved, I can choose to sin or not sin.I mostly choose not sin. I have had my moments of weakness but God was there to forgive that weakness because he knows my heart is his.
I am not under the assumption that all my sins past and future are forgiven.
How can my future sins be forgiven if I haven't even committed them yet?
That is something that gets me every time, Cluny
---miche3754 on 1/6/10


Romans 7:19,20 For the good that I wish, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not wish. But if I am doing the very thing I do not wish, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.

Galatians 5:16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.

It would appear that every sinful situation we encounter we are influenced by both the flesh and the Spirit. The Spirit helps us overcome sin and the flesh helps us to give in to sin. Sounds like Paul blames his flesh (old self) when he sins and not the (new self) the Spirit of God who is without sin.
---Bob on 1/6/10


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--- Miche :

Sister, God's Children being dead to sin & no longer Living therein striving to be perfect as He is Perfect, being Drawn to obey God's Word & not to sin but b/c of the flesh we all fall short of God's Glory and are kept unto Salvation by the Grace of the Finished Works of Christ : lest any man should boast of being made Perfect by the flesh !!!

Sinners deny their sins. Saints being 'Dead to sin' confuse them, and wouldn't claim afterward to have never committed another sin b/c when we do we only deceive ourselves and this Truth is not in us : that when our repenting Heart confesses our sins, the Blood of Christ is Faithful & Just to Forgive us, in order to keep us cleansed from all unrighteousness.
---Shawn.M.T on 1/6/10


Since repentance is a moment-by-moment course correction, and not just a once-for-all act, then it follows that choosing not to sin is likewise a moment-by-moment activity.

Or are you laboring under the mistaken idea that God takes away the free will of a person who is "saved" in this world?
---Cluny on 1/6/10


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