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Why is it those NAME IT-CLAIM IT/WORD OF FAITH/PROSPERITY Teachers/Preachers who tell people if they want to be RICH they need to send money, but these people never, ever share what is written in Matthew 19:23-24, Luke 6:20-26, and Luke 1:1-31?

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They rely on the ignorance of Christians concerning God's Word. We grow up to believe those in authority and educated in their respective fields. Pastors say something, they believe it. We who study the Word know when they contradict God's Word. They also sell false courage and hope. Encouraging the sick, despaired, depressed, addicted, etc.. to sow seeds of faith in hope of receiving God's blessing and answer to their problems. They rely on heaping guilt and condemnation on those who don't tithe 10 percent as well as those who don't or can't give because they don't have it to give. I knew many brethren who tithed 10 percent and were deep in debt or filed bankrupancy eventually. Of course it is always their fault!
---Bob on 1/27/10


See all of 2Cor 8
...the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia. How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality... but first gave their own selves to the Lord. Therefore, as ye abound in everything... see that ye abound in this grace also.

For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

If there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.
That now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want.
---Legends on 1/26/10


How about this?
Had this man sold all and give it to the poor, would he have been perfect?
Or was Christ just showing him, one of the other things he was not doing.

Right, because Christ said and follow me!
Its not the richest that keep you out.
Its more the way, it makes you think of yourself and the way it makes you see other.
If you have something and you want to keep it. You have it keep everyone else away from it.
Well, these kinds of riches are not just money?
God Bless
---TheSeg on 1/26/10


Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

these televangelist prosperity movement like copeland, meyer, benny hinn, dollar, oral roberts are what you call CAFETERIA evangelists. they choose verses that will make them rich. they could not sell everything, sell to the poor, follow christ (like self denial).
malachi 2:7 priest lips should give instructions but they have strayed away from the truth,(christ not money) their teaching have cause many to STUMBLE.
---jim on 1/26/10


The truth is we all would love to have all the money in the world.
To be able to run and play in the fields all day, wouldnt we!
But nowhere in the lord word, is he clearer then in these words.

Now this man has it all, But!

Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Not impossible! The needs of the many outweigh the one!
Live long!
---TheSeg on 1/25/10




The main problem I have with these prosperity guys is the way they distort the gospel. This is no trivial matter. Recall Paul's passionate warning to the Galatians: "[If] anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed." (1:9). Strong language indeed, yet necessary to make clear the point that any deviation from the true Gospel message is in reality "no Gospel at all" (v6). And only the Gospel message, the true Gospel message, has the "power of God" to save a sinner from hell (Romans 1:16). Those that unfortunately buy into "Jesus died to make you rich" believe a false gospel that cannot and will not save on Judgment Day.
---Bobby3 on 1/24/10


for the same reason as scripture warns about,THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.prosperity is not monetary,blessings either,and treasures.
---tom2 on 1/24/10


"So Jesus answered and said, 'Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel's, who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time---houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions---and in the age to come, eternal life.'" (Mark 10:29-30) So, "in this world" we will receive "a hundredfold", if we have left all **for Jesus Christ's sake**.

But there will be "persecutions". And all the mothers and children etc. who become so special to us will have problems and may die before we do. Only God's love will make us able handle all this well.
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/22/10


Amen tom2 1 Cor 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things freely given to us by God. As heirs of Christ we all receive the same benefits from God. To think that money can influence God to bless someone is an insult since all things from God are given to His children by His grace. Those who receive the tithes benefit greatly. Of course when it doesn't work for someone all the blame and guilt is put on that individual. Did you give from your gross, write God His check first, maybe you have hidden or unconfessed sin, have the wrong attitude, didn't give enough, etc.. They will all stand before God some day.
---Bob on 1/21/10


Do you understand the power of the words of your own mouth?
Do you understand Mark 11:22, Matthew 17:20, 21:21, Luke 17:6?
Even if a person is teaching in a selfish mode it still doesn't nulify the word of God.
God has given us dominion and authority. The words that we speak can either change or help the situation.
Job 22:28 is another example. Proverbs 18:20-21 as well. When we speak the word of God in faith we should expect to what we say. Jesus is the One Who preached it 1st.
---Rickey on 1/21/10




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---mima on 1/21/10


what we can claim is salvation thru jesus.the name ot claim it prosperity people are lead by the love of money.Look at the lives of the apostles after jesus returned to the father,prosperity,or being rich in Gods mind has nothing to do with your bank balance,nor does he want you seeking it.the blessings aren,t monetary,they are spiritual.First seek God,and his righteousness.but few do.VERY FEW.
---tom2 on 1/20/10


There is a point to teaching that poverty is not a sacramental way to get close to and please God. But we can decoy ourselves with criticizing ones who are obviously wrong, instead of dealing with how God wants *us* to change. Paul shares, "Not that I speak in regard to need, for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content: I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound. Everywhere and in all things I have learned both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." (Philippians 4:11-13)
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/19/10


The Bible never said if you followed Jesus you would have riches. The Bible says that the righteous will not be forsaken or have to beg for bread. If you server God then you are already rich in that God owns everything and has the power to meet all of your needs. But he's not going to give you a Jaguar for giving to a mega-church. That's just not biblical.
---Jed on 1/19/10


There are a lot of mega-church pastors claiming that they have been persecuted for Christ's sake because they are being audited by the IRS. Well, if you want to avoid paying taxes by claiming a non-profit organization, then there are certain laws you must abide by. One of them is that the employees of a non-profit organization are to receive "reasonable compenstaion for the services they provide". So when a pastor of a church arrives for services every Sunday morning in his own personal jet, the IRS raises a few eyebrows.

The sad thing is that there are single mothers giving their last pennies to these preachers who are making millions because they tell them if they give to their church God will give them a new Cadillac.
---Jed on 1/19/10


It is called filthy lucre, and many have fallen because of it. Jesus did not amass great wealth to himself, he did not charge any tithe, he did not ride upon a stallion nor wear costly apparel: but on the contrary, Jesus showed us how to be humble and to give what we have to the poor in need, and in that way the poor will be made well.
---Eloy on 1/19/10


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For the same reason that Oral Roberts and others who taught seed faith also taught that their wallets were the fields you were supposed to sow your dollars into.

Seems that St. Paul wrote something about, "Those who would be rich catch themselves by snares. Stay away from those who preach that godliness is a way to riches."
---Cluny on 1/19/10


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