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If someone asked you what happened to the people from other cultures who worshipped other gods, who never heard about the christian faith, or had a chance to accept it, what would you tell them?

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Brethren, Tell them that the Light of the Gospel of God's Word is always shining on all of mankind to hear : unfortunately there are those who Spiritually don't Hear it !!

Christ being the Way, Truth & Life : that Life is the Light of men showing them the Way to Heaven through the Truth shining in the darkness, but the darkness comprehended it not.(John 1:4-5) ... b/c No one can choose to believe nor is able to understand what they are unable to Hear.

When we, in the darkness, become "Dead to sin" through Choosing Life in Christ, it was b/c we Spiritually have Ears to Hear the Drawing Will of the Light of God's Word saying "Choose Life"(Deu.30:19)
---Shawn.M.T on 1/28/10

God has made provisions for people who have never heard the Gospel, or heard of God

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law [are] just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another,)

Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
---Francis on 1/28/10

I dont think that there is an easy answer to this blog,but I would like to point out one thing often the end of the millenial kingdom (which revelation plainly calls 1000 years)a group of people (Gog and Magog)join themselves to Satan,at which point comes the final "lake of fire" question is why would "perfected" believers do this?and why the reference to witholding rain on people found in v.17 etc?
---richard on 1/28/10

---Steveng on 1/26/10 Heaven and earth will be married and become one place.

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
---exzucuh on 1/28/10

---ashle7439 on 1/27/10 This is true that they are without excuse to believe on Jesus but they will go to hell for that alone. And just going to hell is as bad as it gets. But Christians get it worse because they are chastised by God here and they suffer all kinds of things because they rebel and God is trying to get them to turn from rebellion. If they become reprobate they suffer even more because they become seven times worse than an unbeliever,
and wallow in the sin they are given over to,
like hogs to the mire, and dogs returning to their vomit.
---exzucuh on 1/28/10

Strongaxe I agree!

Ephesians 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Do you believe God's word on this? Or do you believe someone's experience that contradicts God's Word?

MarkV who said he was born again FIRST along with Eloy ,who says he's been born again 3 times are actually giving you their experience and or man's doctrine. Faith is believing God, not our experiences or man's theology.

WE MUST measure ourselves by His Word. We must bring our experience into accordance with GOD's Word, not the other way around.

To do anything else is to call God a LIAR!
---kathr4453 on 1/28/10

Strongaxe, you made great points and did it with such great words, when you stated,
Yes, that is very true. We should always be willing to accept truth that may be hard or even hurtful to our own way of thinking. The question is, do we want to change ourselves to conform to the truth? Or do we want to change the truth to conform to ourselves? The first is humility, the latter is pride and delusion, and we all know where those eventually leads"

That is the main problem of those who are taught differently from people who were not called to teach but do teach. And humility is hard because pride will not let humility come out.
---MarkV. on 1/28/10

In judgement, the evidence bears a record to either accuse "or else" excuse whom is being judged. Whom stands excused will not receive punitive charges. They will rather be rewarded for any thougth or action from the heart which did not and which do not defile, as such is righteousness.
Matt 5:6: "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled."
---Nana on 1/28/10


Very well put!


Yes, that is very true. We should always be willing to accept truth that may be hard or even hurtful to our own way of thinking. The question is, do we want to change ourselves to conform to the truth? Or do we want to change the truth to conform to ourselves? The first is humility, the latter is pride and delusion, and we all know where those eventually leads...

(Remember that both Jesus and Paul rebuked Peter, and Peter humbly accepted it.)
---StrongAxe on 1/27/10

Even those who do not know the Scriptures are without excuse because, all around them, they can see evidence of the eternal power of God.
II Thess 1:7-10
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know "not" God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power,
10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
---ashle7439 on 1/27/10

At the first resurrection, people who are favored by God will populate the New Heaven. Those at the second resurrection will be judged from the Book of Life according to their works and will populate the New Earth.
---Steveng on 1/26/10

Steveng, Yes right and wrong are written on every man's conscience..however no one is PERFECTLY sinless. Man will be fairly JUDGED according to what their conscience has revealed...that we are all SINNERS!!

However, ALL man died through Adam's sin..PERIOD!!! All the GOOD anyone can do cannot resurrect that first death Adam brought on to all humanity!! God only accepts the second birth that leads to resurrection life IN CHRIST. Jesus said I AM THE RESURRECTION! Ye must be BORN AGAIN!!
---kathr4453 on 1/27/10

Eloy/Nana, Eloy is wrong again as you are wrong again but wanted to so much to be right. There are no righeous people by nature without Christ in Scripture and Romans 2:13-16 does not say any such thing. In fact, "Law unto themselves" really means their practice of some good deeds, and their aversion to some evil ones demonstrate an innate knowledge of God's law-knowledge that will actually witness against them on the day of Judgment. vv. 15,16 says that "Who show the work of the law written in their hearts, and their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel"
---MarkV. on 1/27/10

You people that do not believe scripture are in serious trouble. God saved Israel then utterly destroyed them in the desert because they would not believe his word. God is the same yesterday today and forever. He is God and he changes not. He does not judge the unsaved the same as the born again church. The unsaved are judged for not receiving his Son.
The born again church is judged by their obedience to the son of God. They are held accountable for their lives because the blood of Jesus is holy and his sacrifice will not be allowed by God to treated as nothing. If you willfully sin you have no excuse because God has given us his Holy Spirit.
---exzucuh on 1/27/10

Jed, Jesus said: "I am come not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."Mt.9:13. Do not be deceived, God is not mocked, for the Lord himself says that each person will be judged according to their works (ref: Matthew 16:27, II Corinthians 5:10, Revelation 20:12,13). Jed, for the righteous by nature, Please Read- Romans 2:14,15,25-29.
---Eloy on 1/27/10

There is nothing more rediculous (to say the least) than someone chastising their children or another that they may straighten, righten their attitude, learn righteousness, if that was impossible. But that is not the case and Eloy is right in that he said:

1 Corinthians 6:8_10: "Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
---Nana on 1/27/10

God has put his commandments and laws into the heart of evey man. Even in the most primative of cannibalistic tribes, there are a handful of people who do not do what the rest of the tribe does. When asked by the missionaries passing through, they would reply, "It is not right."

God is a just god.

At the first resurrection, people who are favored by God will populate the New Heaven. Those at the second resurrection will be judged from the Book of Life according to their works and will populate the New Earth.

Blessed are those who rise at the first resurrection.
---Steveng on 1/26/10

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Jeb, thank you for your answers. There is nothing more rediculous then someone teaching there is righteous by nature people out there without Christ. Anything without faith is sin. And that faith is in Christ Jesus our Lord. "Among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath" Eph. 2:3. Even the person who does good without Christ is condemned, because the good he does is not to honor God, it is done without faith in Christ Jesus.
---MarkV. on 1/26/10

I wouldn't TELL them anything, I would let them see Jesus in me, the Hope of Glory.

The bible says to be a witness, not to witness.

There's a time to tell someone they need Jesus as their Lord and Savior, but in my case, I love people where they are at, make friends with them, THEN when the Holy Spirit prompts me to tell them about Jesus, that's when I do it.
---Donna on 1/26/10

Eloy, where do you get that from the Bible?

Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no one comes unto the Father except through me"

John 3:18 says "He that believes is not condemned, but he that believeth not is condemned already"

Romans says "There is none righteous, no not one" and "All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God"

If people were able to save themselves through their own righteousness, why then did Jesus even come and die?
---Jed on 1/26/10

Am very impressed with ---kathr4453's statement. I found her statement condemning to myself and some of my practices, but nevertheless I found her statement to be correct.
---mima on 1/26/10

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We should ask ourselves if our primary concern is to see that people are soundly saved and truly converted or simply converted to our theology.

We need share Jesus Christ with others instead of so much emphasis on theology and positional arguing. We must preach the message of the gospel where God can save a soul from death.
---kathr4453 on 1/26/10

Some people don't beieve this but without christ in our lives

Isa. 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags, and we all do fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Rom. 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one
---michael_e on 1/26/10

Eloy, you pride youself telling everyone how sinless you are, also the light that Jesus saw while on the cross, how Christ came to your house, left in a hurry to go build more mansions, and then speak against the Gospel of Christ. It exposes you, as a false proclaim prophet.
You teach that good people without Christ go to heaven. That righteous people are out there without Christ. Why give them the gospel if all they have to do is be good? Then you turn around and give three different kind of people going to hell, when we are told only one kind goes to hell, "He who believes in Him is not condemned, but he who does not believe is condemned already" One kind go to hell those that don't believe and trust in Christ.
---MarkV. on 1/26/10

Babs, you will get many answers on what to say to those people. The problem with them is they are lost and many, not all, ask questions to get you in a position to where if you say one thing about God, they will answer with, "What kind of God is that?" They are not trying to learn but to argue with you against God. You can compare them to a guy on line name Athiest and you will notice he does the same thing. Try's to find holes in our faith. You have given them the Truth by witnessing to them and that is all you can do. The rest is up to God. As I told him, Light and Darkness cannot discuss godly matters.
---MarkV. on 1/26/10

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Idolatry is sin. "And the times of this ignorance God winked at, but now commands all humans every where to righten." Acts 17:30. Three kinds of people who go to hell: the wicked by nature who never heard the gospel, the person who heard the gospel, but rejected it, and the backslider who never repented or returned to the Lord. And three kinds of people go to heaven: the righteous by nature who never heard the gospel, the born-again Christian, and the backslider who repented or returned to the Lord.
---Eloy on 1/26/10

I really thank you all for your responces. I have been witnessing to a group of people for some time now, and you wouldn't believe a lot of the stuff they say about God, Jesus, and the Bible!. I have explained to them eveything I know about salvation, and told them eveything I could about God, Jesus, and gave them all scriptures where to find what I tell them, but they still come up with a lot of questions like these.
---BABS on 1/25/10

Babs, I would suggest for them to read Romans 1:14-23. In fact it would be a good one for all athiest to read how they surpress the Truth in unrighteousness. This way they can see where they stand, "because although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man"
v. 24 then says, "For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature" Without God everything goes. God turns them lose.
---MarkV. on 1/25/10


So do those 'god' did not chose to save burn in Hell?
---atheist on 1/25/10

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In Romans 8:9, Paul says, "Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His." And we have that those who are going to spend eternity with Jesus are predestined that we will be "conformed to the image of His Son," in Romans 8:29. And I have heard of tribal people in back jungles, who for generations keep up a blood grudge, killing ones from each other's tribes. This is *unforgiveness*, which keeps us from being forgiven (Mark 11:25). Their *character* makes them like this, so I can see they would refuse Jesus. If people are not holy in God's all-loving love, Hebrews 12:14 does say that without holiness "no one will see the Lord."
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/25/10

This might help
john 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth EVERY MAN that cometh into the world.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse
Tit. 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men
---michael_e on 1/25/10

Oh my goodness, I'm tired. I would have to tell them that it doesn't matter. Jesus made it clear, "you must be born again". Note: God chooses those whom He might save. And God is powerful, you have no control over this.
---catherine on 1/25/10

I would say that only God can sort this out with both justice and mercy.

The REAL question is what about YOU, who have heard of Jesus. What will God expect of YOU?
---Cluny on 1/25/10

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