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Pope Believes In Evolution

Does Evolution have merit as the last Pope claimed or not?

Moderator - He is misguided on the topic if he is refering to macro evolution.

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Gordon, Revelation says "the rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years had ended" Where were they if not "soul sleeping"?
"Lived not" means they are dead!
---1st_cliff on 2/4/10


Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened, and many bodies of the saints which slept
--------------arose,----------------------
They arose meaning were resurrected, many believed that the resurrection had already happened because of this.2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already, and overthrow the faith of some.
(arose) egeiro
egeirw egeiro eg-i'-ro
probably akin to the base of 58 (through the idea of collecting one's faculties), to
waken (transitively or intransitively), i.e. rouse (literally, from sleep, from sitting or nonexistence):--awake, lift (up), raise (again, up), rear up, (a-)rise (again, up),
stand, take up.
---exzucuh on 2/4/10


Cluny, The earthquake was so severe that it literally shook the dead bodies right out in the open!
Those who witnessed it ran to the city and reported it!The dead did not experience a resurrection! Nowhere does it say "they came alive"
How does that work with the fundamentalists who believe the dead ones there were either in heaven or hell? Did they make a quick exit to jump back in there bodies??? Strange people!
---1st_cliff on 2/4/10


\\ Jesus said "the Dead


will rise again" not the dead bodies!\\

Does this include the dead bodies that came out of their graves in Jerusalem at the time that Christ rose from the dead in His physical body?

Of course, if a body come alive from the dead, it's no longer dead, is it?
---Cluny on 2/4/10


1st Cliff, I'm more than certain that you won't believe me when I tell you this, but, I'll tell you anyway....It's YOUR misunderstanding of what Death is, is what the "problem" is. You use that Scripture Verse in Ecclesiastes of "The Dead know nothing." But, it does not mean what you are thinking, and believing it to mean. But, you're dead-set in believing in "soul-sleep" and so, you cannot possibly understand what that Verse really means.
---Gordon on 2/4/10




Exzucuh/Gordon, You have a very strange conception of death!
Death is the cessation of life. "For the living know that they will die but the dead know not anything" Eccl.
It was satan that said to Eve "You will not surely die" How come you believe him?
Jesus said "the Dead


will rise again" not the dead bodies!
The sea will give up the DEAD not the dead bodies!
---1st_cliff on 2/4/10


Exzucuh, Very well said! :-)
---Gordon on 2/3/10


1st Cliff, Regarding YAHUSHUA (JESUS) raising Himself to Life...YAHUSHUA says in John 10:17-18 "Therefore doth My Father love Me, because I lay down My Life, that I (YAHUSHUA Himself) might take it again. No man taketh it from Me, but, I lay it down of Myself. I have the Power to lay it down, and...I HAVE THE POWER TO TAKE IT AGAIN. (To raise Himself back to Life) This Commandment have I received of My Father." Also read what YAHUSHUA said in John 2:19 "YAHUSHUA answered and said unto them, 'Destroy this Temple (His Body), and in three days I (YAHUSHUA Himself) will raise it up." YAHUSHUA did not say His Father would raise Him. YAHUSHUA Himself would raise Himself. For, He is Able and Worthy.
---Gordon on 2/3/10


Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead, and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen, and have the keys of hell and of death.

The first part of hell is death. The body was created to be eternal but sin caused the death of the body and it begins at birth a slow process of dieing that ends in corruption and going back to the dust. step two of death is the soul being eternally bound in the separation of the Body and spirit and God. THe spirit of life returns to God but the soul which is the intelligence the personality and what is sometimes called the heart it forever in torment burning and suffering eternal death.
---exzucuh on 2/2/10


Exzucuh, if Jesus went straight to hell and took the keys of death, hell, and the grave, how come there are people still dying and going to hell?
---Rob on 2/2/10

Christians do not die they are immediately
translated into heaven into the presence of the Lord.
2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Sinners that do not obey the Gospel to believe Jesus is the Son of God to repent be baptized, born again, filled with the Holy Spirit and endure to the end go to hell.
---exzucuh on 2/2/10




Exzucuh, if Jesus went straight to hell and took the keys of death, hell, and the grave, how come there are people still dying and going to hell?
---Rob on 2/2/10


---1st_cliff on 2/2/10 Yes, I believe Jesus died stone cold dead and went straight to hell
and took the keys of death hell and the grave and preached to those that were held captive and led captivity captive. I believe he was resurrected from the dead just like the word says.
---exzucuh on 2/2/10


Exzucuh, You know from your study (as do I)that the word "power" (exoosiah) also means "authority" which He received from the Father. After all, he WAS dead!
Unless ,of course, like the fundamentalists,you don't believe that He actually died! (just like Lazarus)
---1st_cliff on 2/2/10


Well said Gordon. You wrote "Compromise with the Truth opens you up for further deceptions." We have seen on these pages how those who compromise with the truth of Genesis creation fall into compromise and error elsewhere. And lead others astray as well.

"If the foundations be destroyed what can the righteous do." Psalm 11:3
---Warwick on 2/2/10


---1st_cliff on 2/1/10 you arguing with scripture my friend.

John 10:17-18 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself.
I have power to lay it down,
and I have power to take it again.
This commandment have I received of my Father.
---exzucuh on 2/1/10


Exzucuh,"For he has given to the Son to have life in Himself" is post resurrection.
The reason the Father raised Him was he was dead! (as a doornail). Had the Father not raised Him he would have stayed dead!like any other human! The resurrection was/is not just some kind of party trick.
No dead person gets to live without a resurrection.Period.
---1st_cliff on 2/1/10


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The Father is the God of Jesus

2 Corinthians 11:31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Romans 1:8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all,

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
---exzucuh on 2/1/10


The Bible is clear, GOD created the heavens and the Earth in 6 Days. That is, six literal 24-hour Days. Is anything too hard for GOD? This "greatest of Religious leaders" cannot even get the GENESIS-Basics correct? Compromise with the Truth opens you up for further deceptions.
---Gordon on 2/1/10


The reason Jesus could raise himself from the dead is easy to explain because he explained it himself.

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself, so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself,

THe Father and God of Jesus Christ
Gave him to have life in himself,
Gave him a name above every name,
Made him head over the church,
Gave him power over heaven and earth,
So loved the world he gave his only Son,

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself, but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
---exzucuh on 2/1/10


Exzucuh, I think it more universally correct to use "...." or '.....'
---Warwick on 1/31/10


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Cliff, I believe 1 Corinthians 2:14 is relevant to you: "The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned."

How you can imagine Jesus trial, His scourging, and His terrible death is just shedding a body is incomprehensible to me.

Indeed Scripture says God raised Jesus from the dead, and Jesus also says He raised Himself. In your terms one of them must be wrong! But to the Trinitarian this is no puzzle because Jesus is God the Son, fully God and fully man.
---Warwick on 1/31/10


Revelation shows He is no longer servant but God the Alpha and the Omega.
---Warwick on 1/31/10

This is why I am trying to get you people to wake up. You sir have denied the existence of the Son of God by trying to prove your trinity. You say he is no longer the Son and is not a servant that he is God alone. God has no beginning and no end But the Son of God does he is the Last Adam, the first born of the resurrection, he is the end of the law. You do not Know Jesus or his Father!
God is also the God of Jesus!

Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
---exzucuh on 1/31/10


\\Cluny and Exzucuh you both quote (I think) because neither of you use quotation marks) "The word of Man says Jesus is Co-equal." Who wrote that? I cannot find it.
---Warwick on 1/31/10\\

I was quoting Exzucuh.

When I give an excerpt from someone's post, I put slashes around it.
---Cluny on 1/31/10


---Cluny on 1/30/10 So by your understanding of Scripture All born again believers are also God the Father because we are one Just like Jesus is one .

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 17:11 Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me,
----that they may be one, as we are----.

John 17:21 That they all may be one,
--as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee--,
-----that they also may be one in us--------:
---exzucuh on 1/31/10


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---Warwick on 1/31/10 God did not send his Son into the world so you could understand his methods or even his God head. The God head is still not revealed and is none of mans business. He has no authority to try to reveal what he has never seen. But the mystery is revealed that God sent his Son to save those that believe and obey him. Salvation is confessing you believe Jesus is the Son of God and because you believe it and obey what he tells you to do, God will give you his Holy Spirit to help you stay saved. You want Jesus to be the Father but Jesus wants to be you.

Paul said: But when it pleased God, To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen,
---exzucuh on 1/31/10


Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born,
------------unto us a son is given:---------
and the government shall be upon his shoulder:

The Son of God is announced by Isaiah
All power in heaven and earth was Given to the Son by his Father. And he is given a name above all names synonymous with God.

-------and his name shall be called----------

Wonderful, Counsellor,: The Holy Spirit comes in Jesus name

The mighty God,
The everlasting Father,: What ever you ask the Father in Jesus Name he will do it.

The Prince of Peace.
---exzucuh on 1/31/10


Warwick, You hit the nail on the head "How could Jesus raise himself if He was dead?"
There's the difference between you and I ,you see, I believe Christ "died" for me , you believe He just shed a body!
It was not Adam's body that sinned and brought death to all mankind!
BTW scripture says the Father raised Him , you see God is immortal and can't die,but he could/did raise his Son!
This part of your theology is bizarre.
---1st_cliff on 1/31/10


Cluny and Exzucuh you both quote (I think) because neither of you use quotation marks) "The word of Man says Jesus is Co-equal." Who wrote that? I cannot find it.
---Warwick on 1/31/10


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Exzucuh, John 14:28 "...my Father is greater than I."

Understand 2 Greek words greater (meizon), better (kreitton). Here Jesus said God is greater, not better than Him. Hebrews 1:4 demonstrates the superiority of Jesus over the angels, using better (kreitton) showing He is both positionally higher than angels and better in His very nature.

Consider a country's president. He/she holds a higher position than others i.e. greater (meizon) but not better (kreitton)than others.

Philippians 2:6-8 explains it all! Jesus though God humbled Himself making Himself a servant, and nothing, made in human likeness, obedient even to death.

Revelation shows He is no longer servant but God the Alpha and the Omega.
---Warwick on 1/31/10


Cliff, I do hope the truth has come out.

If we try to understand the mystery of the God man Jesus by human knowledge and intellect, we will fail. We may just as well try to explain how He made everything from nothing. Can you explain this? Fat chance.

We know Jesus had a body prepared for Him (Hebrews 10:5) and that He raised Himself (John 2:19)-how could He raise Himself if He was dead? Quite a puzzle. However trying to solve it by making Jesus an angel or a god does not solve the puzzle and is contrary to Scripture.

Far greater minds have puzzled over this but not found need to reject what God has said.
---Warwick on 1/31/10


\\ The word of Man says Jesus is Co-equal\\

Jesus said, "I and My Father are one."

Jesus was saying He was equal with the Father.

Therefore, apparently Jesus was merely giving the "word of Man [sic]".
---Cluny on 1/30/10


Warwick, So the truth comes out..*it was Christ's human body which died* So like so many other fundamentalists you do not believe that Christ "died" for you just shed a beaten up body! Wow. So much you know about the price Jesus paid for your redemption. He didn't die, just shed a body!!! For the creator "bodies are a dime a dozen" How does a heap of flesh and bone pay for anything?? The shallowness of your understanding astounds me!
Listen--Jesus actually gave up His life,ceased to be alive, expired,went truly out of existence..His father brought Him back!The body was immaterial!
---1st_cliff on 1/30/10


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The word of Man says Jesus is Co-equal

The word of God says that God is greater than the Son and every thing the Son has and does is by permission and granted to the Son because of his obedience to his Father.

John 14:28 , I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself, so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself,

Hebrews 5:8-9 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered, And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him,
---exzucuh on 1/30/10


Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art -->and man's device<--.

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse:

Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man,
---exzucuh on 1/30/10


Cliff Roman's 9:5 "....the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all. Jesus is fully man, fully God. It was Christ's human body which died.

Hebrews 10:5 Jesus said "....a body you prepared for me," A body prepared for whom?

John 2:19 "Jesus answered "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again..."

As Jesus died who raised Him from the dead? John says He, (God over all, Creator, and Redeemer) raised Himself!

Jesus said He is one and the same as God. His mortal enemies, hostile witnesses sought to kill Him.

John 10:30 "The Father and I are one." 31 "Again the Jews picked up stones to stone Him. 33 Because " you a mere man claim to be God."
---Warwick on 1/30/10


\\What "piece of cloth" are you speaking of cluny? I am a Southern Baptist, and do not know what you are referring to. Could you please "enlighten" me?
---tommy7376 on 1/29/10\\

In case you didn't understand what I was saying, I was referring to the American and Christian flags.

Their respective pledges are prayers to pieces of cloth.
---Cluny on 1/29/10


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Warwick, Jesus "is" God= Your contention.
Scripture says "God is immortal"
Jesus died (not just shed a body)
God can never die !
How can they be One and the same?
God "begot a Son" ?? God "begot" a duplicate????
Holy Spirit died??
Holy Spirit was pierced???
Holy Spirit was bought for 30 pieces of silver??
Like I said "Don't fall" for that nonsense!
God is supreme,immortal, has a Son,they both command the Holy Spirit.(Their power).
---1st_cliff on 1/29/10


If the pope worships statues, then Baptists say prayers to piece of cloth in church. You can't condemn the first and approve the second. Proverbs 20,10.
---Cluny on 1/28/10

What "piece of cloth" are you speaking of cluny? I am a Southern Baptist, and do not know what you are referring to. Could you please "enlighten" me?
---tommy7376 on 1/29/10


Cluny: So the pledge of allegence to the flag is a worship service where you live? Strange place Middle Earth!
---jerry6593 on 1/29/10


Cliff I am not being slippery at all. Just pointing out what Scripture says.

Compare Zechariah 12:10 and Revelation 1:7 and you will see such similarities as to excude God speaking figuratively. "They will look on me the one they have pierced" followed by - "every eye will see him even those who pierced him." God pierced, Jesus pierced-one and the same!

How can God who is not corporal have one head, let alone three?

If a pagan god was said to have risen from the dead does that it me pagan for believing Jesus rose from the dead?
---Warwick on 1/29/10


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Warwick, Got to hand it to you, you are slippery. 30 pieces of silver was the going price for slaves (Ex.21.32).God being "pierced" we know is impossible,he uses the word figuratively '
"was" pierced 5ooBCE? (Zek.) like the dogs who bit the hands and feet (piercing them)
As a Christian,how is it that you entertain the pagan belief in a 3 headed god? or one with multiple personalities like Baal,or Isis Horus and Set (Egypt) Brahma,Vishnu and Siva (Hindu)
You're a good man Warwick, don't fall for that doctrine!
---1st_cliff on 1/28/10


"Cluny, YES it is because they believe they're touching Jesus when they reach out to touch the Pope and that gold thing." (Donna)

It is truly amazes me how many presume to know everything. Take you for you example, Donna. You presume to know the heart of over a billion, more or less, of Latin and Eastern Catholics. Of course, in any authentic Catholic document will one not find the belief that the Bishop of Rome is Christ incarnated, so why will one believe they are touching Christ when they touch the Pope, a belief not taught anywhere in Catholic documents?

Thou shall not bear false witness against thou brenthen. Read that anywhere in Holy Scriptures?

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 1/28/10


\\Cluny, YES it is because they believe they're touching Jesus when they reach out to touch the Pope and that gold thing.
---Donna on 1/28/10\\

Wrong, Donna, on two points.

The "gold thing" that mima was talking about is a monstrance, which nobody but the celebrating priest touches.

And Catholic people do NOT believe they are touching Jesus when they touch the Pope. This is slander or worse.
---Cluny on 1/28/10


||Cluny, you know how I respect you, right?

I found your statement to be very funny.

Aren't Baptists saved? or maybe I'm misunderstanding your statement?||

It's the truth, Donna. These pieces of cloth were brought up to the front of the church with great solemnity and exposed for the veneration of the faithful and were worshipped with ritual gestures executed in unison on command of the leader: "Attention! Salute! Pledge!" and both prayers began with the same words: "I pledge allegiance...."

If the pope worships statues, then Baptists say prayers to piece of cloth in church. You can't condemn the first and approve the second. Proverbs 20,10.
---Cluny on 1/28/10


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Cliff, you misunderstood my point. Intentionally? I wrote : "Because a term is coined does not mean that the reality does not exist."

This means that a reality can be given a convenient name by us. But the reality must first exist. Man made up the name measles, for example, but only to conveniently describe a real disease. It is only those under the sway of cults who cannot see the obviousness of the Trinity.

In Zechariah 11:13 and 12:10 God talks of the handsome price paid for Himself-thirty pieces of silver.

God also says it was He who was pierced. We all know that all of this applies to Jesus, as He is the one for whom the silver was paid, and He was the one pierced. Inescapably God and Jesus are one.
---Warwick on 1/28/10


Exzucuh, you are confused because you endeavour to understand by human intellect and our miniscule knowledge, not by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. God is not human, but Spirit. The 3 are not separate physically as we understand physical separateness. The 3 are one. Scripture says the Holy Spirit is a person, the Father a person, Jesus God the Son, a person. Not 3 people!

By calling Himself the Son of God He claims equality with God, as Luke 22:71,72 shows. His enemies agree! Also John 10:29-33.

See John 14:5-Philip asked-Show us the Father. Jesus replied "Don't you know me Phillip..." That is-you have seen me, therefore you have seen the Father. I am in the Father and the Father is in me-one and the same God!
---Warwick on 1/28/10


i must say to exzucuh good show on your comments on the godhead, we need more believers such as yourself.
---avery on 1/28/10


As concerns the teaching of the Trinity,

At the baptism of Jesus Christ we have the following----

a Jesus physically standing in the water.

b The Holy Spirit being physically represented by the Dove.

c An audible voice being heard with the physical ears.

Now unless you have Jesus physically manifesting himself in two different physical bodies and at the same time being a venpriloquist this sounds very much like a Trinity.
---mima on 1/28/10


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Warwick, Good point,Coining a phrase does not make it so,So the phrase "God the Father,God the Son and God the holy Spirit" is a coined phrase that's nowhere in the bible. so doesn't mean it is so!
---1st_cliff on 1/28/10


Jerry,

Can you tell us what you think that theory is?
---atheist on 1/28/10


---Cluny on 1/26/10 said: When I was a Baptist, before I got saved we said prayers to pieces of cloth.

Cluny, you know how I respect you, right?

I found your statement to be very funny.

Aren't Baptists saved? or maybe I'm misunderstanding your statement?

When people reach out to touch the Pope or that gold thing he holds up with a wafer in it, isn't that idolatry? \\

Nope, it's not.

And people don't touch it, anyway.
---Cluny on 1/27/10

Cluny, YES it is because they believe they're touching Jesus when they reach out to touch the Pope and that gold thing.
---Donna on 1/28/10


If you want power with God and the ability to have a ministry like the apostles you have to obey the Gospel by faith and forsake all this modern ideology.
Return to the teachings of the Apostles to faith by works of obedience and regeneration into the Son's and Daughters of God. Then you will ask what you will and because the word is Abiding in you he will do what ever you ask. Devils will flee from you because you are synonymous with the name of Jesus by becoming
the word made flesh. Born again by the incorruptible word of God. What is born of Spirit is Spirit. Looks, Talks, and Acts like the Spirit that has begotten it.
---exzucuh on 1/28/10


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No! There is nothing scientific about the evolutionary hypothesis. It does not rest upon a foundation of solid, scientific law - but rather is supported only by the twin pillars of childish conjecture and fraud.
---jerry6593 on 1/28/10


jerry, thanks for correcting me. I hear the truth of what you said and I agree with it. I was trying to be nice and gentle and not judgemental for those who do believe in evolution.
---Donna on 1/28/10


God tells us to come out and be separate from the world. Not believe man made things. To take the God head and add ideas to it from
what is carnal reasoning is Just like carving a God from a piece of wood into the idea of your mind as to what you think God is. God will not accept the work of men's hands. This makes the Godhead an unholy abomination of desolation the image of jealousy sitting in the entrance of the temple. And it provokes God to Jealousy. There is only one God the Father and one Son Jesus Christ and they are one in God's Spirit and the church is also one with them in God's Spirit.
---exzucuh on 1/28/10


Just like all theories evolution has truth in it just like the trinity theory has truth in it but the fact that is has discrepancies makes it worthless for doctrine. You can see some evidence of evolution in nature as species adapt to their environments but there is no evidence of such drastic evolution of one species to another. Only in the Spirit does evolution take place. degenerate man evolves into spiritual regenerate man by the power of the Holy Spirit by being born again and taking on the Nature of the Son of God.
---exzucuh on 1/28/10


---Warwick on 1/28/10 The ideology of three persons in the Godhead does not exist. It says that the holy Spirit is a person separate from God and the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God and cannot be separate from him, He is a Spirit. Jesus is not God the Son with equality this does not line up with any scripture in the Bible. Jesus is the Son of God that shares the Authority of his Father by permission. The Father is God alone And Jesus is his Son alone and they are one as the church is one in God's Spirit. That is what the word teaches and That is what you should believe not an man made doctrine. The trinity is idol worship and was created by the catholic church.
---exzucuh on 1/28/10


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Donna: "Evolution is a man-made scientific theory"

No! There is nothing scientific about the evolutionary hypothesis. It does not rest upon a foundation of solid, scientific law - but rather is supported only by the twin pillars of childish conjecture and fraud.
---jerry6593 on 1/28/10


Exzucuh, the Trinity is a man made term coined to describe a Biblical reality. God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Because a term is coined does not mean that the reality does not exist.
---Warwick on 1/28/10


\\ The Pope prays to Mary, what does that say about Him? \\

Nothing in particular.

Have you ever read court papers? They frequently contain phrases such as "The petitioner prays the court...." And there's the common expression, "Pray, tell."

\\And speaking of the Pope, why doesn't he realize that one of the Ten Commandments is thou shall have no false gods/idols before me. When people reach out to touch the Pope or that gold thing he holds up with a wafer in it, isn't that idolatry? \\

Nope, it's not.

And people don't touch it, anyway.
---Cluny on 1/27/10


Larry thank you. I think you saw my point.
Atheist, surely you knew I said that to make a point. Evolution is a theory where there is a continuous change from a lower state to a higher more complex state. Darwin's theory of evolution held forth the notion all life is related having descended from a common ancestor including birds,bananas,fishes,and flowers,etc. If someone believes such a science fiction theory thats their right,but for me and our family we believe that no more than I believe someone would get hands on their ankles. Whether a theory be Psychology,Sociololgy,or Evolution,or any other science every test given to prove a point/theory will be skewed to show that proof,making the test totally without merit.
---Darlene_1 on 1/27/10


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I pay no attention to what ever comes out of Catholic thought. There are so many fallacies, that they have no credibility for me.
---jody on 1/27/10


The Pope prays to Mary, what does that say about Him? He has no merit in lots of things including evolution.

Evolution has no merit as the last Pope claimed.

Here is the definition of evolution: In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth, etc., Evolution is a man-made scientific theory which is a lie.

And speaking of the Pope, why doesn't he realize that one of the Ten Commandments is thou shall have no false gods/idols before me. When people reach out to touch the Pope or that gold thing he holds up with a wafer in it, isn't that idolatry? Why doesn't the Pope realize that? (just curious).
---Donna on 1/27/10


There are people on christianet thay worship an idea that God is a trinity. They worship an
philosophy that men put together from ideas conceived out of their carnal minds rather that believe what the word says. that the Father who is a spirit has a Son and you must believe on his Son to be saved and obey him to the end. There are lots of Idols that people worship called doctrines.
---exzucuh on 1/27/10


\\To judge and condemn a man for worshiping a man-made statute or to judge and condemn a man for kissing the Koran would seem to fall under the heading of righteous judgment!!!!!
---mima on 1/26/10\\

You're right. It only SEEMS to fall thus.

Was he worshipping the statue with the LATREIA that belongs to God alone?

Could he have been kissing a gift to show respect for the giver?

How do you bear the ability to look into people's hearts from mere pictures, mima?
---Cluny on 1/27/10


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\\He also was photographed worshiping a statue of Mary. Also he was photographed kissing the Koran(holy book of Islam). Yes the pope had many problems.
---mima on 1/26/10\\

When I was a Baptist, before I got saved we said prayers to pieces of cloth.
---Cluny on 1/26/10


He also was photographed worshiping a statue of Mary. Also he was photographed kissing the Koran(holy book of Islam). Yes the pope had many problems.
---mima on 1/26/10


Please explain to me how do you know that he was worshiping a Statue of Mary? Kneeling in front of the statue is no different that God telling Moses to have the people kneel in front of the bronze serpent in the wilderness. Does not the Koran have some truth in it?
---Ruben on 1/26/10


If species change in evolution adapting to their environment by now very heavy people who can't reach their feet would have developed hands on their ankles so they could tie their shoelaces - Dalene.

Very cute and witty Darlene.

I hope the Pope simply misspoke in a senior moment because accepting evolution is to reject the word.
Its too bad so many are influenced by the overwhelming majesty of the Vatican and its galant costumes. In truth the Pope is no more holy or wise than the contrite peasant.
---larry on 1/26/10


To judge and condemn a man for worshiping a man-made statute or to judge and condemn a man for kissing the Koran would seem to fall under the heading of righteous judgment!!!!!
---mima on 1/26/10


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Darlene:" It's irrational to believe humans evolved from chimps".

You got a good start. You're correct, that's not evolutionary theory.

But that ankle thing is way off the mark...
---atheist on 1/26/10


The pope was worshiping a man made statue
but hypocrites that worship man made doctrines
judge him and condemn themselves. It is both idolatry.
---exzucuh on 1/26/10


He also was photographed worshiping a statue of Mary. Also he was photographed kissing the Koran(holy book of Islam). Yes the pope had many problems.
---mima on 1/26/10


The RCC is bending over trying to make up for mistakes and lies of previous popes by going alonw with what ever currrent Science teaches.

The ability of animals to change and adapt in a limited way is proven.

For an animal to change from a land animal to a whale is beyound anything that can be shown. For single cell organisms and flat worms to become human is beyond my ability to believe.
---Samuel on 1/26/10


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Jesus Church was born on the day of Pentecost according to Mark 16 v 16 - Acts 2 v's 37-41 which Fulfills Matt.28 v's 19-20, Gal. 1 v's 8-9.
ALL Man-made relig-org's churches r-catholocism The Mother apostate church the first trin-church came from here, 2nd. Cor. 11 v's 14-15. Rev.17 v's 4-6. Again, the trinity people deny in the first paragraph, but when the rapture takes place & the Man-made relig-org's churches dont go, they wont deny it any more, then it'l be to late.
There Is more Man-made relig-org's churches
in this world than there is God's Family of Jesus Name Churches.
---Lawrence on 1/26/10


If species change in evolution adapting to their environment by now very heavy people who can't reach their feet would have developed hands on their ankles so they could tie their shoelaces. Humans aren't changing despite the fact our environment and our needs are always changing. It's irrational to believe humans evolved from chimps,we haven't changed since we susposedly did that. Evolution beliefs stem from someone who has no faith to believe in an Almighty God who is powerful enough,wise enough to create all forms of life and place them in the right environments. What a awesome God to make mankind part of his creation. For non believes of that,even Popes,I think the problem is,faith reaches only as far as a person's mind allows it to go.
---Darlene_1 on 1/26/10


\\ founder of the first trin-relig-org\\

Are you saying that Jesus, Who founded the first Trinitarian religion, is deceived by Satan, Lawrence?
---Cluny on 1/26/10


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