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Explain Matthew 16:28

What does Matthew 16:28 mean?

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Congratulations Lee1538 as you deserve a place on the unofficial and unauthorized best and worst list, for writing 25 blogs that have nothing to do with Matthew 16:28.
Other than showing God's nature, his working(s) in the world, and explaining his will, the Bible points to the (saving) sacrifice of the Lord. Matthew 16:28 may make reference to Jesus' mediatorship in Heaven, 1Timothy 2:4-5, Hebrews 4:14-16(!), 7:22, 8:6, 9:14-15, 12:24.
---Glenn on 4/8/10


trav - it is really a waste of time having any dialogue with you as you really know nothing about what the Bible teaches. Nor have you contributed anything worthwhile to anyone on this forum.

Hopefully someday soon, you will find some mentors that know both the Bible and its Author who will give you guidance on what the Christian faith and walk is all about.

Good bye.
---Lee1538 on 4/7/10


trav - ...
....you in your arrogance try to distort it to fit your preconceived idiotology.
---Lee1538 on 4/6/10

Well hunny lips, pre..announced perhaps by GODs prophets in scripture. Easy to go with them. Why are you so against prophets of the Old Covenant? They are trying to explain to you the basis of the New....and to who. When you get searchlighted bending scripture...you get namecalling mad....
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the REDEMPTION of the transgressions THAT WERE UNDER the FIRST TESTAMENT, THEY which are CALLED might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
---Trav on 4/7/10


trav - that humility is not one of your attributes. If it were you would be teachable but clearly you are not.
---Lee1538 on 4/6/10

GOD's prophets and a little prayer got you fired up again it appears.
Settle down, lets see what a prophet would have us do. Here is your first brick in your foundation. N/C. Your welcome.

John 7:49
But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.
Acts3:22For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me, him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

23And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
---Trav on 4/7/10


trav - what you post clearly indicates that humility is not one of your attributes. If it were you would be teachable but clearly you are not. You simply want to argue against the truth (Truth).

When are you going to recognize the authority of the Word of God or is your mind so very plugged up (constipated) with false doctrines that such would be virtually impossible?
---Lee1538 on 4/6/10




trav //Poor soul,....Perhaps He may send a woman to you to speak His truth so that you may be able to "work out your salvation with fear and trembling". Php. 2:12
---Lee1538 on 4/6/10

Well, he did send my mother. She sure made an impression.
Hunny, you're grate. Free? I have the laws in my heart,prophets in scripture. Somthing just a little hidden on yours. This is the whole difference you've been posting/arguing about between the two Covenants.
When my heart says....Lee Anne needs a gentle rebuke I show you scripture...from GOD's Prophets. And yet you rage?
Whatever man hurt you....did the complete number. I pray your healing in this, and mine dealing with.
---Trav on 4/6/10


trav //Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

And did not Christ fulfill the law or is it that you still believe the church is still under the Old Covenant dispensation?

Poor soul, when will the Lord set you free in Christ so that you can have an understanding of what is written in Holy Writ? Perhaps He may send a woman to you to speak His truth so that you may be able to "work out your salvation with fear and trembling". Php. 2:12

Humility is certainly not one of your greater attributes but such is the problem with those who are arrogant.
---Lee1538 on 4/6/10


trav -//
Those 'my prophets' you speak of are simply a bunch of fools that knew nothing of the Bible or its Author.
Indeed - they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit. Mt. 15:14
---Lee1538 on 4/3/10

It is a sign gurl, what comes off your tougue. Now if the prophets I speak of in the Old Testament, had all been women you would honor instead of spit at them perhaps.

Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Jeremiah, Isaiah, Hosea, Daniel,Ezekiel etc, etc...seen your days/day coming as well.
Acts 13:40
Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets,
---Trav on 4/4/10


trav -//Funny thing , your worldly educated man/men you worship cannot hold water with my prophets.

Those 'my prophets' you speak of are simply a bunch of fools that knew nothing of the Bible or its Author.

Indeed - they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit. Mt. 15:14

But why should I waste time with those whose hearts are hardened against the truth (Truth).
---Lee1538 on 4/3/10


//I am prejudiced....I love em. I'm glad I do. I love women to women. Not men.

And that is your problems, you love only women and hate men particular those who would rebuke you.


You simply believe your interpretation of Scripture has to be the correct one, ignoring the fact that many far more spiritual & educated than you have other interpretations that are more defensible.
---Lee1538 on 4/1/10

Hate? Where. A wise man will except scriptural rebuke. Funny thing , your worldly educated man/men you worship cannot hold water with my prophets. Scripture makes them run like the wolves they usually are. If you are a man...you've yet to admit it....or honor it.
---Trav on 4/1/10




//I am prejudiced....I love em. I'm glad I do. I love women to women. Not men.

And that is your problems, you love only women and hate men particular those who would rebuke you.


//1 Corinthians 14:34 Let women be silent in church....

And you should also heed the word of the Lord -

1Th 4:11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you,

this can be good advise for those who have deep seated problems with women.

You simply believe your interpretation of Scripture has to be the correct one, ignoring the fact that many far more spiritual & educated than you have other interpretations that are more defensible.
---Lee1538 on 4/1/10


Lee1538

Who or what is the Prince of Light? The only reference I have on it is that it was a title given to Saint Michael the Archangel.

II Corinthians 14:14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works.

In pagan worship also know as the Prince of light or King of Light(sun god)

Peace
---Ed on 4/1/10


It is doubtful that we can help these 2 boys -trav & Glenn, as they are simply too prejudical against women. ...theirs is a minority viewpoint that has less defense.
---Lee1538 on 3/29/10
I am prejudiced....I love em. I'm glad I do. I love women to women. Not men.
1 Corinthians 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak, but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

You are finally correct on one thing. Helping anyone. Even other women. Agressively against GOD. Most women love being women. You desire to be men. Multiple works for women with women. Men cannot begin to grasp. You can't qualify though. You abandon yourself.
---Trav on 3/30/10


Glenn,
I enjoyed your last answer to the blog question. It seems very true to me.
Also, to answer the P.S.
No, I would not criticize, just ask questions like I usually do.
See, I am a much more pleasant woman when I am shown courtesy and NOT called names.
You are right that scripture should always be utilized an never overlooked.

It brings to mind that when Paul speaks about all scripture, since he was a pharisee before coming to Christ, I don't believe he considered his letters part of scripture at that time. I am not saying I believe this, but that he might have.
---miche3754 on 3/30/10


Jesus had told them some heavy things about his soon suffering, his being killed, and then being raised again the third day. And also Luke 9:24 "For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it." He then offers them hope, and assures them that they (some) would see Him come in his Kingdom, see Glenn 3/13. It also could be thought of as an extra declaration that He would rise again.
p.s. Would any of you be tempted to criticize someone who made 20 blogs entries, and never 'touched' Matthew 16:28. But 1Corinthians 14:3, 2Timothy 3:16-17, Hebrews 4:12, vs. 1Timothy 6:3-5, 2Peter 3:16-17.
---Glenn on 3/30/10


It is doubtful that we can help these 2 boys -trav & Glenn, as they are simply too prejudical against women. Perhaps we should just ignore them since they really have nothing new to offer. They do not realize that theirs is a minority viewpoint that has less defense.
---Lee1538 on 3/29/10


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But we should also be very careful to hold our mentors to the truth of Scripture.
---Lee1538 on 3/28/10

God's says to test the Spirits to see if they be true.
Be like the Bereans, search scripture to see if the one speaking is lining up with God's Word.
People in ministry should display the fruits of the Holy Spirit....Gal. 5:22-26
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other"
---miche3754 on 3/29/10


/---Glenn on 3/28/10/

Again, with the insults?! Why? because I asked that you please stay on subject and STOP INSULTING WOMEN? I was really looking forward to the answers to this question and you and others turn and ruin it.
I didn't violate anything except YOUR pride. stop insulting people. You are just mad because you got corrected by a woman.
you should really turn that finger in the opposite direction and take a long hard look in the mirror... AT YOURSELF. These comments you make fit the person looking back at you.
Be courteous, NOT insulting.
You set a bad example and your attitude is the reason WHY so many men aren't Christian. Why should they be when the ones who claim it act the same as they do?
---miche3754 on 3/29/10


Glenn //God calls Christians to follow Him, and to chose to submit to his will in all things.

YES YES YES and that is what even women do when the Lord God calls them into the ministry.

But we should also be very careful to hold our mentors to the truth of Scripture.
---Lee1538 on 3/28/10


Glenn //A synopsis - Glenn and Trav are bad. ...am a former E.E.O.C. counselor,..blab, blab, blab.

Yes I take the Great Commission very seriously and seek to win others to Christ.

Yes, one can do whatever ones want to do, however once a person is in Christ, whether male or female, Jesus becomes LORD who makes no distinction as He can use either as instruments of His will.

Having been involved in various ministries I really find it hard to conceive of one who calls himself a Christian and at the same time disciminate against those whom God has called into ministry.

Perhaps they have deceived themselves into believing they are Christians when there is really no testimony of Christ in their lives.
---Lee1538 on 3/28/10


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Matthew 16:24-28, Mark 8:34-38, 9:1, Luke 9:23-27. God calls Christians to follow Him, and to chose to submit to his will in all things. If there is choice between receiving a reward in Heaven or here, choose Heaven. If a man rejects God, He will reject that man.
Miche3754: Who on these blogs can make a statement and violate it at the same time quite like you? It's true that Heathens expect Believers to be kind to others, but their most common complaints are that many Christians are hypocritical, inconsistent, and dishonest.
---Glenn on 3/28/10


Gentlemen,

Why is it with you 3 women are always and argument?
You are all being childish and certainly not Up right Christian men when you use God's word to call each other names and out right insult each other.
Would you act like this if you were face to face?
Please be respectful and discuss God's word with respect and dignity and the fruit of the Spirit.
Some one who is NOT saved is reading these blogs.
How do you expect people to respect you as Christian men when you aren't acting like it?
Please stop arguing about women and get back to the subject at hand- GOD'S WORD.
---miche3754 on 3/28/10


What does Matthew 16:28 mean?
Self confidence and the expectation that works will procure salvation vs. confidence in Gods justice, believing in Him, and accepting his atoning sacrifice on the cross in our place. Romans 1:17, 3:20, 26-28, 4:1-8, Galatians 2:16.
Lee 1538: A synopsis - Glenn and Trav are bad. ...am a former E.E.O.C. counselor, and involved in Bible distribution to over 200 countries, therefore women can be anything they want to be. Me, me ,me, my, mine, me. As an aside, You actually used 1Corinthians 1:31 in a blog wherein you bragged about yourself.
---Glenn on 3/27/10


trav - //Since you've never denied it..... are you Lee Anne... :Lee//The question is totally irrevelant to the issue.
---Lee1538 on 3/26/10

Irrevelant? What issue. The issue that you are a man or a woman. It's apparent now. An is revelant to understanding you.
Is it irrevelant that GOD married Israel? Symbolically the man and She the Woman?
Is it irrevelant that all the disciples were men? Not. Irrevelant Adam was first? Nah. Irrevelant,woman came from him? Not stated irrevelant. Not about who is the leader,top dog etc. About GOD's order. You and a couple of others here try to change an order set. I can't even wish you good luck. Even that would be against GOD. Ahh-hem...yur swimming upstream gurl.
---Trav on 3/27/10


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trav - //Since you've never denied it..... are you Lee Anne... a female? No disrespect an honest question.

The question is totally irrevelant to the issue. As stated before, I see nothing in scripture that forbids women to hold church office.

What I do see having been an EEO counselor for the government is the terrible waste of resources due to discrimination based on race, gender, religious orientation, ethic background, age,and the like.

Women can and are successful in many vocations today that in the past were dominated by men.
---Lee1538 on 3/26/10


27"For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and (AL)WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.

28"Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."

I like Esther's answer on 2/23/10. I also was wondering if this is also talking about Jesus returning for his people. End times prophecy perhaps.
Verse 16:27 certainly implies that.
Will have to do more study and praying to be sure.
---miche3754 on 3/26/10


And some women are obeying God, and that must make you mad as you would restrict women to the kitchen & bedroom.
---Lee1538 on 3/23/10

Since you've never denied it..... are you Lee Anne... a female? No disrespect an honest question.

By dodging/avoiding the question sometimes with a question....you are affirming.

It would explain to all of us and help us understand your scripture stretching mission on the subject of women.
---Trav on 3/24/10
---Trav on 3/26/10


Ed - not really sure what you meant in your post.

Who or what is the Prince of Light? The only reference I have on it is that it was a title given to Saint Michael the Archangel.

God has a calling of some sort to everyone into any of the ministries and He graciously gives one the gifts and whatever else they need to accomplish His purpose in that ministry.

My major calling has been to distribute Bibles & Testaments to as many as will receive them and in nearly 200 different countries. And that has been a very fruitful ministry as we receive testimonies in return all the time.

However, I wish not to boast of anything I did as Scripture tells us "Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord." 1 Cor. 1:31
---Lee1538 on 3/25/10


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Lee1538

I view those that misinterpret the scripture in such a way that God cannot call into the ministry those whom He will as being against the spread of the Gospel.

You claim he called you! But some or most who are called do the work of the Prince Of Light.
---Ed on 3/25/10


Getting back to the question, I'd reference it as Jesus showing himself to the disciples (see also Acts 1:10-11) after three days in the grave.
As regards who follows what, I have just 2 questions. Do you (and those whom you worship with) base your beliefs on the Bible ALONE or do you have "new revelation" or additional books? Is it the whole of the Bible or have 'you' removed/added bits?
Bible exposition and teaching should not be contradicted by Scripture and the Holy Spirit helps you discern truth from heresy BUT that doesn't stop us closing our spiritual eyes (or having them closed as a result of our disobedience).
---simon7348 on 3/22/10


trav//You do not believe Apostles or Prophets?

Only the Apostles and prophets spoken of in the Bible, ..
I view those that misinterpret the scripture in such a way that God cannot call into the ministry those whom He will as being against the spread of the Gospel.
---Lee1538 on 3/21/10

Imagine that....all these posts and you do believe in prophets and Apostles....as myself.

Those who "misinterpret/Add too or take away from.
I will always show 2-3 or more witnesses in scipture anytime on request, anything i've posted.
Matthew 18:16
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
---Trav on 3/22/10


Trav, so what you are saying is the there are bad Jews, Jews mixed together with good Jews and since you don't know which are which because you don't know their hearts, go ahead and kill all of them because they are Anti-Christ. Are you crazy? The whole world is anti-christ, and because we don't know who to defend as you say, which should we spare? The northern or the southern, or the married ones or the devorced ones? The twelth tribes are only one tribe?
I don't know what sect you belong to, but whatever it is, it is anti-semitic for you cannot be a Jew for no Jew or Israelite, would say what you say, that they deserved what they got through the centuries. You even gave discriptions of what they did to deserve what they got.
---MarkV. on 3/22/10


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trav//You do not believe Apostles or Prophets?

Only the Apostles and prophets spoken of in the Bible, NOT those today in the sects / cults who call themselves prophets or apostles, liken to the Mormon religion and some of the other whacko sects.

I was formerly an Equal Employment Opportunity counselor (US government) and as such have seen the waste of resources that have occured over the years due to racial, ethnic, age, gender and other types of discrimination.

I view those that misinterpret the scripture in such a way that God cannot call into the ministry those whom He will as being against the spread of the Gospel.
---Lee1538 on 3/21/10


Trav, If you know and speak about Israel why is it that you say that Jesus died because of the Jews? You know perfectly well that He died because of the sins of the world. ---MarkV. on 3/21/10

So your gonna be an Anti-Christ defender. Be hard to explain in front of GOD, but, you will not/cannot say you were not shown. You just were not open to witnessing scriptures.
You are a little denominated....He, Jesus said he came for the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel. He was talking about the Nth House that had been divorced.
He also says many, will be saved...not all.
The New Covenant was with two Parties one former Nation/Wife. The Old Covenants were no different.
---Trav on 3/21/10


Trav, If you know and speak about Israel why is it that you say that Jesus died because of the Jews? You know perfectly well that He died because of the sins of the world. He shed His blood for the sins of the world. That is the reason He died. Your interpretation is what instituted all those terrible things that the church did to the Jews. One pope John Paul XXIII composed a prayer:
"The mark of Cain is stamped upon our forheads. Across the centuries, our brother Abel has lain in blood which we drew, and shed tears we caused by forgetting Thy love. Forgive us, Lord, for the curse we falsely attributed to their name as Jews. Forgive us for crucifying Thee a second time in their flesh. For we know not what we did"
---MarkV. on 3/21/10


trav - the question you avoid answering is "Do you mean that among your sect you have Apostles and Prophets liken to what the Mormon church has and some of the other wacko sects?"

Answer that question, then I would be better enabled understand what you are speaking about.
---Lee1538 on 3/18/10

Ha. Sect. Ha. I stand alone...with Scripture/GOD/Jesus/Prophets in scripture. The reason you do not understand...as you stated. You do not believe Apostles or Prophets. If you did you would listen to them. Answer mine. Are you female?
2 Peter 3:2
That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
---Trav on 3/19/10


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trav - the question you avoid answering is "Do you mean that among your sect you have Apostles and Prophets liken to what the Mormon church has and some of the other wacko sects?"

Answer that question, then I would be better enabled understand what you are speaking about.

Your comments in the past have led me to beleive you belong to one of the Mormon sects. This is needed as the terms they use have unconventional meanings.
---Lee1538 on 3/18/10


trav //
Perhaps I am not understanding you?
It is hard for us to determine this since you have repeatly refused to tell us what your sect is called.
---Lee1538 on 3/17/10
Sect: Follower of Christ,is appropriate.
Lee, you try to cloak your stated disregard for the prophets and Apostles with a diversion.
My individual stand with Christ + Prophets and Apostles creates a obstacle you must attack. Hmmmm. I ask for Prophets/Apostles supporting you. You attack. Nice training. Why don't you compare my 2 or more witnesses in scripture? Let scripture state truth or false. If not for you, perhaps a "lost sheep".
---Trav on 3/18/10


trav //The prophets and apostles I've quoted are the ones the GOD and my lord chose. False to you.

Perhaps I am not understanding you?

Do you mean that among your sect you have Apostles and Prophets liken to what the Mormon church has and some of the other wacko sects?

It is hard for us to determine this since you have repeatly refused to tell us what your sect is called.
---Lee1538 on 3/17/10


trav -
But there may still be hope for you if you would could avoid the false prophets & apostles that you have trusted with your eternal salvation.

Are they not all servants of the Accuser of the brethren - something that they had made of you? Rev. 12:10
---Lee1538 on 3/17/10

The prophets and apostles I've quoted are the ones the GOD and my lord chose. False to you.
You should consider your denial of them.

It's not me that is bothering you but, my witnesses in scripture.
---Trav on 3/17/10


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Matthew 16:28

Well could it have been John? He did write a book in the NT called Revelations that is about his vision, were he is taken to the future and sees the coming of Jesus and other end time happening.
Peace Unto You who love El Shaddai.
---Ed on 3/17/10


trav - in any case, it is rather obvious that what you follow has not been the teachings of His church. In other words, orthodoxy of Bible truth is not your style at all.

But there may still be hope for you if you would could avoid the false prophets & apostles that you have trusted with your eternal salvation. Are they not all servants of the Accuser of the brethren - something that they had made of you? Rev. 12:10
---Lee1538 on 3/17/10


trav -//I follow no denom/doctrine of man/woman especially effeminates.

I suggest that you find a good Bible oriented church that preaches the gospel
otherwise you will continue to remain retarded when it comes to God's word.
---Lee1538 on 3/16/10

I never said I was alone. I said I followed none like you. There are many that listen/believe the witness of Prophets and Apostles. We are afraid an it is unbiblical not too.
Luke 16:31
"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "

Acts 13:40
Take care that what the prophets have said does not happen to you:
---Trav on 3/17/10


The chapter and verse divisions of the bible can sometimes be misleading for me. Would be inclined to look at Matthew 17.2 as well as the verses preceding Matthew 16.28.
---lon on 3/16/10


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trav -//I follow no denom/doctrine of man/woman especially effeminates.

So you admit you are a Lone Ranger Christian depending upon you own interpretation of the Bible and custom designed religion. No wonder you are so out of step with what is viewed by most as basic Christianity.

I suggest that you find a good Bible oriented church that preaches the gospel otherwise you will continue to remain retarded when it comes to God's word.

Sorry but I will not be deterred in distributing Bibles/testaments/pamphlets/tracts that others may come to Salvation.

And I will continue to seek & support those that need clothing, food, shelter and other necessities of life thru the various ministries of my church.
---Lee1538 on 3/16/10


trav = It is those groups, sects, denominations of which you are a part of the has its own Apostles, prophets, etc. that are consider cultic as well as wierd.

But it is good that even whackos can get together and proclaim themselves to be the depository of God's truth. Perhaps the Lord will eventually invade your sect and with Him bring the truth of the Gospel.

Contrary to what your sect would proclaim, Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No one can come to the Father except thru Him.
---Lee1538 on 3/16/10


The church today does not need Apostles & Prophets through some have leaders that are called by those names.

No wonder you are so far off the path of Biblical Christianity!
---Lee1538 on 3/16/10

Wow. Nothing like seeing it declared from the heart. Writing your own Bible now I suppose? While I'd gathered as much from your past post,evident where the darkness in scripture is now for ya.

I publically proclaimed several times...I follow no denom/doctrine of man/woman especially effeminates. YAHSHUA is my denom.
---Trav on 3/16/10


trav - I am simply saying that there is more than enough evidence to convict me of being a follower of Jesus Christ. ..."I am not ashamed, ...
---Lee1538 on 3/15/10

It isn't me that judges you. It will be those who you do not need now in your modern interpretations. Apostles and prophets of GOD.

It isn't recognizable that you follow scripture...you defend what is not supported in scripture for possibly your own covering. Apostles and Prophets are witnesses in scripture. The very fact that there are 12 MEN, is significant in itself....but, perhaps not in modern Lee Annes Gospel gatherings. You call Christ and his Prophets a "Cult"? Be careful in your flailing anger, Anne.
---Trav on 3/16/10


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trav // Apostles and Prophets wrote them. I'll bring 3-20 for every one of yours.

The church today does not need Apostles & Prophets through some have leaders that are called by those names.

So you are a member of the Mormon clan?

Fundamental Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or one of the other whacko groups that calls themselves Christian?

Your truth is some golden plates that Joe Smith dug out of the ground, not a flaming bush as I first suspected.

No wonder you are so far off the path of Biblical Christianity!
---Lee1538 on 3/16/10


trav - I am simply saying that there is more than enough evidence to convict me of being a follower of Jesus Christ.

I know you do not recognize what the Lord has done through me and "I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed, and I am convinced that he is able to guard until that Day what has been entrusted to me."
2 Tim. 2:12

Perhaps someday you may say much the same but it would have to be after the Lord delivers you from your present bondage to the cult you are in.
---Lee1538 on 3/15/10


And exactly who are you to call anyone that has been active as a Bible distributor for over 30 years ....
do you really know your interpretation of Scripture is valid? For someone that is unlearned and has never taken any formal course work, As such you are very limited in understanding of God's word ,incapable of any proper exegetics of it.

As far as I can conceive of it,
---Lee1538 on 3/13/10

1. Your a legend in your own mind.
2. Valid? Seriously? Apostles and Prophets wrote them. I'll bring 3-20 for every one of yours.
3. Formal course work...looks like we're all not gonna make it. Just the exegetic, formal bible distrib's. (Possibly just women or followers of according to the gospel of lee anne?:)
---Trav on 3/15/10


Glenn //Also, present your evidence with citation for: "Racist, sexist, Islamist, gross bigot, shameless".

Having served as an Equal Employment Opportunity Counselor while working for the US Government, I know what racist, sexist, bigotry and other discriminations truly are. So it would serve no purpose in debating this with you.

While your denomination may discriminate against certain people in our society and claim the backing of scripture that is your prerogative. However like the government, I see it as a waste of resources. Woman have and can do the job and in accordance to what is required.

Sorry you have problems, but some would like to see the Word of God proclaimed while there is still opportunity.
---Lee1538 on 3/14/10


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In Matthew 16:28, the Kingdom may refers to the founding of the same at Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection. Or it shows that the Church was well established before the majority of his disciples were martyred. Context: G932 basileia means kingdom here. And "taste of death" is a Jewish idiom meaning to die.
Lee 1538: As suggested at "Wrong for Christians to drink" on 11/22, please start an appropriate blog. Also, present your evidence with citation for: "Racist, sexist, Islamist, gross bigot, shameless".
---Glenn on 3/13/10


trav -//Their work and your defense are opposed to scripture.

For someone that is unlearned and has never taken any formal course work, that boils down to opinion. As such you are very limited in understanding of God's word and are incapable of any proper exegetics of it.

As far as I can conceive of it, everything I believe is also held by what the church has taught and is reflected the views of those to whom the Lord has given the gift of teaching.

All you can do is to insult and condemn other Christians but I guess that reflects that poor spirit within you.
---Lee1538 on 3/13/10


//And who are you exactly to call someone else a gross bigot just because you find a point of disagreement with them.

Being a research analyst by trade I stick to definitions.

And since this guy condemns me for having defensible views that others have, I believe my accusation is totally accurate.

Like Miche states the guy has a malfunction and I share that belief. That should be rather obvious for those who have eyes that can see.
---Lee1538 on 3/13/10


Ignatius //Are those women who share in Glenn's beliefs gross bigots too?

Not at all.

Any study of church history should reveal the church has often been in error in condemning those who challenge their viewpoints.

For instance many in the church believed the Bible justified slavery of Africans - the sons of Ham!

And now the challenge is against the traditional belief the Bible restricts the role of women in the church. I think that traditional interpretation of scripture is incorrect and in opposition to the will of God.

While one can understand differing viewpoints, it is irresponsible to slander other Christians that have opposing viewpoints by calling them false prophets as Glenn has.
---Lee1538 on 3/13/10


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//What a travesty! Calling good evil and evil good.

And exactly who are you to call anyone that has been active as a Bible distributor for over 30 years and has served the Lord faithfully in His church as being an evil person?

Those prophets & Apostles in your church have misled you into believing you have the right to use Scripture to condemn and accuse other. Are they not all servants of the Accuser of the brethren? Rev. 12:10

And how do you really know your interpretation of Scripture is valid? Do you like most fools, claim to have a burning bush in your back yard you can consult?
---Lee1538 on 3/13/10


"And who are you exactly to call someone else a false prophet just because you find a point of disagreement with them?" (Lee)

And who are you exactly to call someone else a gross bigot just because you find a point of disagreement with them?

Are those women who share in Glenn's beliefs gross bigots too?

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 3/12/10


Glenn - //Proverbs 14:1. At least as it regards the subject of women in ministry, Lee1538 and Miche3754 are teaching error, and should each be thought of as a false prophet.
Frankly your problem is that you are such a gross bigot ...
---Lee1538 on 3/11/10

Their work and your defense are opposed to scripture. You are such a strong advocate of going against stated scripture that I conclude you are a woman. Have you been shadowing as a man on these blogs??
One is not a bigot...for upholding the Apostles! One is not a bigot for upholding prophets!
Women hold a place that men can never hold...you would deny them. You would have men be WOMEN. What a travesty! Calling good evil and evil good.
---Trav on 3/12/10


MarkV>>>Thanks for your input. God bless you!
---catherine on 3/12/10


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Catherine, I agee with your answer also. I think a word is mentioned (Kingdom) can be translated "royal splendor," therefore, it seems most natural to interpete this promise as a reference to the Transfiguration, which some of the disciples-Peter, James, and John, would witness only 6 days later. It could not possibly be the Second Coming of Christ since all would be dead by then.
---MarkV. on 3/12/10


"Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom". This verse has caused much difficulty and needless misunderstanding [well, mabe so if you understand it]. Its fulfillment may be looked for in the Transfiguration which follows immediately, an occasion on which the apostle Peter asserts that the three disciples saw Christ's coming and also in the Lord's resurrection and subsequent glory.
---catherine on 3/12/10


Glenn - //Proverbs 14:1. At least as it regards the subject of women in ministry, Lee1538 and Miche3754 are teaching error, and should each be thought of as a false prophet.

And who are you exactly to call someone else a false prophet just because you find a point of disagreement with them?

But such were those that called our Lord a false prophet and cannot we not expect the same accusation of those who opposed Him?

Frankly your problem is that you are such a gross bigot that you cannot bear the fact that God is calling women into the ministry as well as blessing their work. Shameless?
---Lee1538 on 3/11/10


They (but Judas Mathew 27:5, Acts 1:18) were alive at the Lords death and resurrection *1. And John lived long enough to see the Church spread to much of the empire.
"There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they"
Matthew 16:28 "see the Son of man coming in his kingdom."
Mark 9:1 "have seen the kingdom of God come with power."
Luke 9:27 "see the kingdom of God."
p.s. Matthew 3:2 heaven, 13:43 Father, 19:24 God, Colossians 1:13 dear Son, 2Peter 1:11 our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, Revelations 11:15 our Lord, and of his Christ.
*1 Matthew 27:50, Mark 15:37, Luke 23:46, John 19:30 / Matthew 28:6, Mark 16:6, Luke 24:6, John 20:14 / Acts 1:2, 9, 2:1.
---Glenn on 3/1/10


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In addition to what I wrote earlier, Moses and Elijah appeared to Him to talk about His departure, encouraged and remindered Him about His mission on this earth once it was near the last phase of His ministry.

What Peter, John and James saw was to strengthen their faith in God and to believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
---Esther on 2/23/10


This verse referred to two individuals among Jesus Christs followers who were still alive when the above statement was made. These two persons, according to Jesus will see Him in His glory in His Fathers kingdom and they were:

Stephen - saw Jesus sitting at the right hand of God (Acts 7).

John was still alive when he saw Jesus Christ, the Alpha and the Omega (Revelation 1-4).
What Peter, John and James saw is to strengthen their faith in God and to believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God?
---Esther on 2/23/10


Yes! Michael and Catherine: That sounds good to me. It is about the transfiguration. Thank you:)
---jody on 2/20/10


Verse 28 has caused much difficulty and needless misunderstanding. Its fulfillment may be looked for in the transfiguration which follows immediately, an occasion on which the Apostle Peter asserts that the three disciples saw Christ's coming and also in the Lord's resurrection and subsequent glory.....Over in Luke 9:28, Peter, James, and John made up the inner circle of disciples. At the outer perimeter was the group of five hundred who saw Christ after His resurrection. Read also, Luke 9: 28-36.
---catherine on 2/12/10


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Thanks Michael, I think you're right. That explaination makes the most sense to me, personally. :)
---Mary on 2/2/10


Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Mark 9:2 And after six days Jesus taketh [with him] Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
Luke 9:32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him.
The rest of the disciples, save one, would have to taste death before they see such.
---MIchael on 1/31/10


Correction to prior post "The kingdom of God within" should read "The kingdom of God 'is' within". Taken from this verse "when he [Jesus] was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh 'not' with observation: (as in ocular evidence) Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you"
Thus not to be confused with His second coming, which will be "as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one [part] under heaven, shineth unto the other [part] under heaven," and "every eye shall see Him". Refs. Luke 17:20,21>17:24>Rev 1:7
---Josef on 1/31/10


The conversation took place between Jesus and His twelve. Verse 5
The verse in question references the day of Pentecost and the establishment of His kingdom within the believer through the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit.
As Jesus would later explain "The kingdom of God within" and that kingdom was manifest as "Christ in you, the hope of glory: [Even] the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but you [the disciples] know him, for he dwells with you, and shall be in you." Jesus is The Truth and reigns within the believer as the Spirit of Truth.
The term "some standing here" was used because He knew that Judas would not experience the event.
---Josef on 1/30/10


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This is from the Defenders Notes from The Holy Bible on another site...I agree with this.

The disciples were to see Him "coming," not actually reigning, in His kingdom. This clearly referred to the remarkable vision which three of His disciples were about to see on the Mount of Transfiguration.

Peter confirms that they saw the "coming" of our Lord Jesus Christ, and were "eyewitnesses of his majesty...when we were with him in the holy mount" See also 2 Peter 1:16-18).
What do you think of this answer?
---a_friend on 1/31/10


There is a similar verse in another synoptic about "some not tasting of death until they see the Kingdom of God come with power."

Judas, who was one of the bystanders when Jesus said this, killed himself when Jesus seized the Kingdom by violence at His crucifixion, brought it into being by His Resurrection and Ascension, and brought it into power at Pentecost.

The key word here is "some".

Indeed, "some" did not taste of death, even if Judas did--and for that matter, Jesus.
---Cluny on 1/30/10


I do not know what Matthew 16:28 referrs to or means. But I'm willing to watch for the answers to come and go to school thereby.
---mima on 1/30/10


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