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Are Scriptures The Word Of God

Are scriptures the Word of God?

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Cluny, It is wrong to add "You" to the verse, because it changes Jesus' truth into a lie.
---Eloy on 2/27/10


There is where christianity lies. Christ is alive. How do you account for all the historical evidence to His resurrection?
2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
Romans 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also [in the likeness] of [his] resurrection:
---MIchael on 2/26/10


Atheist it was an admission.

You falsely claimed that following Christ had dire consequences for society.

After I repeatedly challenged you to back up this claim you gave the Hitler quote.

You now admit Hitler 'twisted Scripture.' Therefore this is an admission that is was wrong of you to use this quote.

You are back to square one and my question remains: What are the dire consequences for society if Christ's teachings are followed?
---Warwick on 2/26/10


MIchael,

If you are talking about THE 'Jesus', then I would guess since the time he was reputatively living was about 2000 years ago, I would think that he is dead.
---atheist on 2/26/10


It always shocks me when I hear a person of any faith claim an exclusive right to anything, the 'true' love or knowledge of God, 'eternal salvation', a moral foundation. God is in everyone, speaks to every open heart, and loves all.
---Deb on 2/26/10




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Cluny, I do not follow any foolish scholars who wrest the scriptures. For emperically and literally, adding the word "You" when it is not written, changes the scriptures from Jesus instructing the people to Search and Why, into Jesus falsely stating that the people where already Searching. Again, lit.Gk= "Search you all the scriptures, because in them think eternal life you all have: but they are they which testify about me." \\

1. It is not necessary in Greek to have a noun or pronoun for the subject of a verb, especially in the second person, as it inflects to show person.

2. Your "literal Greek" is in the indicative, and not the imperative, as you tried to imply earlier.
---Cluny on 2/26/10


Warwick,

I stated that Hitler was a madman and he twisted scripture, history, evolutionary theory to suit himself. I 'admitted' nothing. That statement was not exacted from me because of your overwhelming arguments. I have believed that for half a century.

You continue to twist what I say and ignore what I mean. Shame on you.

Just keep restating what I say and then argue with that. It seems to give you great comfort. Eventually this blog will run out, and you can start the same nonsense on another.
---atheist on 2/26/10


Earl,

You bring up another point about how people misinterprete and misuse 'the word of god' and scripture. There are 'Christians' who hold an anything goes attitude toward the support of Isreal because according to their reading of the bible the nation of Isreal must exist before Christ comes back. And so their support of Isreal represents their efforts to hasten teh 'second coming'. Some even say that Hitler aided in the process by driving the Jews back to the 'promised land'.

Meanwhile, Palestians languish in refugee camps, demonized because they got the wrong god anyway. No Christian sympathy for those people.
---atheist on 2/26/10


\\ Cluny, I do not follow any foolish scholars who wrest the scriptures.\\

You just wrest the scriptures all by yourself, right, Eloy?
---Cluny on 2/26/10


Atheist, Most people are pretty sure that Hitler is dead. The next question I would like to ask you... Is Jesus alive or dead?
---MIchael on 2/26/10




Is the hitler campaign to exterminate jews and other misfits similiar to the campaign to possess the "promised land"?Was both to exterminate the unacceptable so that there is no interference from their genetics or religion?
Was to possess the "promised land" God's word?
If hitler's extermination campaign was unacceptable in the minds of free men then is God's extermination campaign to take the "promised land" also unacceptable? Or not?
---earl on 2/26/10


Atheist you admit Hitler twisted Scripture out of recognition, to suit evil purposes. That you quoted a psychopath's ravings to justify your contention that Christian faith has dire consequences for society, shows your claim is nonsensical. Shame on you!

Conversely let us consider North Korea's murderous atheistic/evolutionary leaders. Lacking faith in Christ they consequently feel free to torture and murder anyone they feel is not dancing to the party tune. They are behaving totally in line with their evolutionary, survival of the fittest, 'nature red in tooth and claw.' principles.

Many atheists have personal morality but have no concrete universal foundation for morality, as there is in Christ.

You have it backwards.
---Warwick on 2/25/10


Atheist, you wrote "The point is that Christians, like those of other religions, use their 'scripture' and their 'god' to commit all manner of atrocities..."

This demonstrates the darkness of your thinking. How can anyone be a Christian and live in direct opposition to the will of Christ, by committing 'atrocities"? This is an oxymoron. It is irrelevant what a person claims to be, but relevant how they live. Hitler, the KKK et al live purposefully opposed to Christ so to call them Christian is ludicrous. "...Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do." James 2:18 says it perfectly. Someone may claim to be Christian but how he lives his life proves what he really is!
---Warwick on 2/25/10


Cluny, I do not follow any foolish scholars who wrest the scriptures. For emperically and literally, adding the word "You" when it is not written, changes the scriptures from Jesus instructing the people to Search and Why, into Jesus falsely stating that the people where already Searching. Again, lit.Gk= "Search you all the scriptures, because in them think eternal life you all have: but they are they which testify about me." John 5:39. "And Jesus answered and said to them: You all do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Do you all not therefore err, because you all know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?" Mt.22:29+ Mk.12:24.
---Eloy on 2/26/10


I guess I'll get back to the question.
The answer is yes.
---larry on 2/25/10


Glenn,

I really believe the man is dead, and I am not looking for him. whatever gave you that idea?
---atheist on 2/25/10


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Not all of it. All you have to do to figure that one out is to read it!
---Deb on 2/25/10


Atheist:
The Scriptures, being the Bible, are the Word of God. Scripture is capitalized when it refers to the Bible, as is Word when it refers to the same, or to the Lord Jesus.
p.s. Mr. Hitler, like most Nazis, was neither a Christian, nor an atheist, but a pagan, theosophist, and probably an occultist. Perhaps, you could ask when you next see him.
---Glenn on 2/25/10


Simon,

Yes. Hitler twisted up the Bible, Darwin's theory, particularly that sick sick idea of eugenics, and his own version of history.

But madness can find an excuse anywhere. We must be wary of such leaders and not follow them. That's what scares me about religion, too many say, "He's a god fearing _________, just like me". Crazy demi-gods are crazy demi-gods, not matter what religion or none at all.
---atheist on 2/25/10


Atheist,

"I used Hitler specifically because the claim is so often that he was an atheist"

---simon7348 on 2/25/10

I think is established that Hitler was a Catholic or was raised Catholic.

There is a not often published photo of him that I have seen where he was leaving a Sunday church service in his Nazi uniform!

Yes, he believed in evolution which shaped his twisted world view. Maybe he was a pagan though and any church he attended had no effect in shaping his world view.

Many in the Nazi army were Lutheran. The Nazi's celebrated Christmas. In Martin Luther's writings he said the Jews were cursed "Christ Killers" whose synagogues should be burned! Disturbing to say the least.
---obewan on 2/25/10


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Atheist,

"I used Hitler specifically because the claim is so often that he was an atheist, and then atheists get painted with the same brush as Hitler."

I agree. Hitler was had delusions of grandeur that are rooted in Darwin's Survival of the fittest. He twisted his own thoughts and understandings elevating them above the Word of God he frequently referred to. The link is made from Hitler to Darwin and that (naturally, if you'll pardon the pun) is linked to atheism and agnosticism of which Darwin is often wrongly seen as a "god".
---simon7348 on 2/25/10


I didn't vote for Obama because of race--I voted for him because he was not like Bush. I had hoped he would get us out of the wars Bush got us into but so far not looking good :(
---Mary on 2/25/10


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Scriptures are scripted or written words from God: the Word of God is Jesus: lit.Gk: "Then answered Jesus and said to them: Search you all the scriptures, because in them think eternal life you all have: but they are they which testify about me." John 5:39.
---Eloy on 2/25/10\\

According to real Greek scholars, the verb for "Search" in Greek is indicative, not imperative, i.e., "You search the Scriptures...."
---Cluny on 2/25/10


Simon,

I used Hitler specifically because the claim is so often that he was an atheist, and then atheists get painted with the same brush as Hitler.

I do not assign using 'god' and 'scripture' to justify terrible acts to just Christians. Such people who behave or commit atrocious acts in the name of 'god' on the basis of their reading of a 'scripture' of any religion, are almost always way off track from the mainstream of that religion. A madman of any religion is a madman first.

What is frightening is that such people are not always recognized and their belief or claimed belief in 'god' encourages support for them or brings their twisted agenda into practice
---atheist on 2/25/10


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You are right that many claim to be Christ's children but few act like it. I know for a fact that Obama would never have been elected if they were truly Christian. Many voted race and not morals. However I find it interesting that some suggest that Hitler was a Christian. Christians are not socialists or dictators. They support Jewish people and their Nation and do not kill them because they are commanded to support them. Those that do wrong as above give the Christian faith the word, "Religion!" It is not a religion but a relationship with the Creator.
---Virgil on 2/25/10


Scriptures are scripted or written words from God: the Word of God is Jesus: lit.Gk: "Then answered Jesus and said to them: Search you all the scriptures, because in them think eternal life you all have: but they are they which testify about me." John 5:39.
---Eloy on 2/25/10


'atheist,' if Hitler claimed to be a Christian, it's because he had redefined Christianity to the point that he claimed to be the messiah.
---Cluny on 2/25/10


Atheist, I won't dispute that Hitler (KKK etc) claim to be Christians and that they get their inspiration and guidance from the Bible, but I would compare their actions to what they claim - if the actions do not sit true with the Bible, then one can assume that they are not living out what they claim to believe.

There will be differences between denominations (personal views) because, as much as we have had our spiritual eyes opened when we have accepted Christ as our saviour, we are still sinful human beings (albeit now saved) who are "works in progress" that will complete when we are with Him forever.

Oh and Hitler may have had a "god" on his side, but I would dispute he had God "on his side".
---simon7348 on 2/25/10


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Atheist,
The term adherent quietly suggests there is a organized religion involved.I do not know of any .I do not recon I am connected in this typical usual manner of adherency.I see revelation -impartation of wisdom,truth,facts and knowledge unobtainable by man through normal or natural means or abilities with a technique producing limited distortion of value of that which has been revealed by revelators.
To some there is a stimulus ,a content appearing unrealistic as that of a thought provoking fiction writer and there is a real and actual living stimulus from which no fiction there in is recognized.
---earl on 2/25/10


Alan8566:

I have a Biblical view on this.

If we look at man prior to salvation, the Scriptures (Col. 1) tells us that we are: alientated from God, hostile to God in our minds, constantly engaged in evil deeds, and captive to the domain of darkness.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/25/10


Warwick,

I simply repeated a passage from one of his speeches in which he identified himself as a Christian and claimed that he got his inspiration and guidance from your Bible.

I expected that you would say that his behavior proved he was not a real Christian, but from what I have seen here no two self-identified Christians can agree on what it means to be a real Christian anyway. In my country KKK members certainly called themselves Christians.

The point is that Christians, like those of other religions, use their 'scripture' and their 'god' to commit all manner of atrocities, and Hitler, a self-identified Christian was among them. And you can stop calling himself an atheist, because he believed he had 'god' on his side.
---atheist on 2/24/10


Earl,

Thank you for the references. Would you consider yourself an adherent (or is there such a thing), or do you use this to stimulate thinking?
---atheist on 2/25/10


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Mark E .. So you must be evil and totally depraved.

What evidence would I see in your behaviour of you being evil and totally depraved?

What do you detect in, say, the unsaved Atheist's writigs to suggest that he is totally depraved and thoroughly evil?
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/25/10


Atheist,
Here are some answers you asked for.These two references are not a finished statement. Your questions are also addressed,disected and futher answered throughout it's many pages .
Paper 92,section 4 .page 1007
Paper 97,section 8.page 1070
---earl on 2/24/10


PastorJim,
You say,"so far no answer".But do you have an answer?
---earl on 2/24/10


I wonder how this can fit in with the doctrine that man, unless saved, is utterly evil and totally depraved?
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/24/10

Man is evil and depraved, but yet God put within man a sense of law (being a conscience) and a sense of Himself (truth that there is a God).

It is this sense of law and sense of God within us that we war against.

We continually defy our conscience to the point that it is hardened or seared and is of no value in controlling us. We then can do or say anything to anyone.

The sense of Himself is placed in all of us so that when we see the created objects of the world, including ourselves, we really know that He created them.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/24/10


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Atheist you claimed that following Christ has dire consequences for society.

You make such absurd, unsupportable statements.

You paint Hitler as a follower of Christ to support your statement. How desperate you are.

Consider James 2:18 "Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do." Hitler showed he was a lying, devious, racist, mass murderer, and you claim his actions are because he followed Jesus!

Hitler could claim to be a baseball player, loud and long, but it is pointless unless he actually plays the game, by the rules. Slaughtering baseballers with a baseball bat does not make him a baseball player. James agrees.

You have no credibility.
---Warwick on 2/24/10


Atheist:

It's funny, but what you said about rules extending to other people and not just the intended group reminded me of another fact about the isolated Amazon tribes.

When they were discovered and their language learned, it was found that murder only applied to killing someone inside their own tribe or group. They did not consider it murder if you killed someone of another tribe in an act of revenge or conflict.

So it seems that war is constant no matter where you go.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/24/10


Atheist we have war, suffering and misery not because of the 'rules' of Christianity, but because people choose not to obey them.

I would hardly call the 10 commandments or the beatitudes 'some basic rules.'

There can only be one Creator God and the Bible is His word. Salvation is not for one people but for the whole world-John 3:16. To whom did Paul dedicate his life, preaching the gospel of forgiveness-Jews or Gentiles? To whom do modern-day missionaries take the Gosplel? Only Jews or the whole world?
---Warwick on 2/24/10


noun 1.Often, Scriptures. Also called Holy Scripture, Holy Scriptures. the sacred writings of the Old or New Testaments or both together. 2.(often lowercase) any writing or book, esp. when of a sacred or religious nature. 3.(sometimes lowercase) a particular passage from the Bible, text.
Scripture is that corpus of literature deemed authoritative for establishing doctrine within any of a number of specific religious traditions, especially the Abrahamic religions.[1] Such bodies of writings are also sometimes known as the canon of scripture. They are often associated with the belief that they were either given directly, or otherwise inspired, by God, or associated with other kinds of direct access to absolute truth
So yes, by definition.
---MIchael on 2/24/10


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Atheist,
There is only one correct answer from your reference to Acts and my reference to John.
By comparrison they are contradicting.
One is revelatory and was an newly introduced clarification not long ago and the other is drawing from earlier written hebrew history.
You state"science fiction"-Well what do you think the jews thought of Jesus when he said I and my Father(God )are one?Death was at his doorstep.
Of course science was not invented until someone made a comment about the earth having a path -orbit- around the sun.
IF you continue reading many topics are clarified.
---earl on 2/24/10


Mark E ... You point out that all societies and cultures have basic rules that are similar to those of Judaism and Christianity.

I wonder how this can fit in with the doctrine that man, unless saved, is utterly evil and totally depraved?
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/24/10


Well, things are bad, because people are refraining from saying the name Jesus. Calling out to Him for help. Because man knows so much and knows nothing. Only one, true God, and He lives in His people. His Blood causes us to believe.... LAWS ON HEART.... a very good thing. Because, now, we want to obey God. We don't do these bad things, because we are afraid of men's punishment. We don't do them, because we love God and because we fear God. In that, we want to keep our peace and joy, which can only come from Jesus Christ. Don't knock Him until you have tried Him. You'll see, my friends.+++
---catherine on 2/24/10


PastorJim,
I asked the question of who was the first four apostles about a week or two ago,not Atheist. There was only one incorrect by comparrisons guess/ reply.Correct, all else was chatter.And this posted question is on topic with your reference to this.
---earl on 2/24/10

AND SO-FAR NO ANSWER.
---PASTOR_JIM on 2/24/10


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The discerning "sword" that a Godly person should have is the WORD OF GOD....

Ephesians 6:17
"sword of the spirit, which is the word of God".

For the "NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN", New testament scripture is the DOCTRINE OF CHRIST....

Hebrews 6:1
"Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity".

2 John 1:9
"Any one who goes ahead and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God, he who abides in the doctrine has both the Father and the Son".

Tell me what you are going to say to God in order to argue (the exact words).

Will you say to God "NO, I'm not going to abide in the doctrine of Christ?".
---more_excellent_way on 2/24/10


Yes and no.
Yes because it is the God breathed word.(2nd Timothy 3:16)
The written word of God is the LOGOS.
The Logos refers to the total expression of inward thoughts. The logos is in the heart/mind of God written whereas RHEMA is what God speaks through His word/LOGOS.
The RHEMA is the revelation(s) from the word of God. For instance, when Jesus was being tempted, in Luke 4, He didn't quote an entire book, but scriptures. He had revelation knowledge or RHEMA from the scriptures & He used/spoke it.
---Rickey on 2/24/10


atheist,
Why are you on a christian blog?
---char on 2/24/10


Mark,

Survival is more easily accomplished in groups. Without some basic rules you cannot have a group, much less anything approaching civil society.

What I find odd is the idea that if these rules were placed in the 'scriptures' of various peoples inspired 'god', why is it that those rules don't extend to all other peoples, not just one particular people. If the restriction against murder or theft extended outside of just one people, we would not have wars. Why would 'god' have not inspired the writers of these many scriptures, the basis of many religions, to all men not just the people or tribe of the writer?
---atheist on 2/24/10


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Mark Eaton, Answer- they, like us , are all descendants of Noah!
---1st_cliff on 2/24/10


Earl,

But Acts 7:6 says, "God spoke to him in this way: 'Your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own, and they will be enslaved and mistreated four hundred years" and does speaking in other parts of the Bible.

BTW I did get a copy of the Urantia Book. What can you tell me about the authorship of that. Seems to have quite a mix of more recent science, science fiction and Christian? belief. Very interesting, but very long and dense.
---atheist on 2/24/10


Perhaps we should just refrain from using such terms as 'scripture' and 'god'.
---atheist on 2/24/10

All societies, eastern, western, African, ancient, and modern, have a form of "commandments" or laws that prohibit certain actions such as murder, adultery, theft, etc. Even the isolated tribes of the Amazon when discovered, had laws governing their society that were very similar to these basic laws.

The Bible says that God put these laws in our hearts and our conscience bears this out (Rom 2:15).

What explanation for this can you give?
---Mark_Eaton on 2/24/10


Are scriptures the word of God?or
(Are all [ written content within the binding known as a {holy bible}] the word of God?)When reading scripture where someone sees God's form in their sight or when someone hears God speaking audible words-
Consider these scriptures.
Jo.1.18-"No man hath seen God at any time....."
Jo.5.37-..."Ye have neither heard his voice at any time nor seen his shape..."
Question-We know that Jesus fulfilled(illuminated) the law but did Moses or God pen it?
---earl on 2/24/10


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Cluny,

Without the terms "scripture" and "god", we would not a have term "atheist."

So I suggest a solution, let's dispose of those terms, along with any other theist terms. That would eliminate the sensibility of the idea of 'atheism' and 'atheists'. Ironically I would cease to exist.

Funny world these word things make...
---atheist on 2/24/10


\\Perhaps we should just refrain from using such terms as 'scripture' and 'god'.
---atheist on 2/24/10\\

It's difficult to talk about Scripture and God without using those terms, just as it's impossible to talk about you without using the term 'atheist'.
---Cluny on 2/24/10


Warwick,

The statements:

scriptures are the Word of God

OR

scriptures are the word of God

OR

Scripture is the Word of God

OR

Scripture is the word of God

are ambiguous and unclear. Especially given the fact that depending on the adherent not only does the capitalization change but so does 'scripture' and 'god'.

Perhaps we should just refrain from using such terms as 'scripture' and 'god'.
---atheist on 2/24/10


Yes Warwick! A's question is very ambiguous. It gives him/her a lot of wiggle room. It's not a seeker-friendly (real) question. Serpentine in nature, it's designed to confuse & dissuade (intimidate) believers from believing in God & the Scripture He authored (for the most part) by using men to write it.

Unbelievers always couch their questions this way because they want to be able to control & impose limited/narrow responses upon us when they choose to suddenly spring up out of the grass & choke the life out of us with vicious "yes or no" demands.

Yes Cluny! Jesus could see through such traps. We too must be able to do the same. The only way is to believe on Jesus & in what God's Holy Scripture says.
---Leon on 2/24/10


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PastorJim,
I asked the question of who was the first four apostles about a week or two ago,not Atheist. There was only one incorrect by comparrisons guess/ reply.Correct, all else was chatter.And this posted question is on topic with your reference to this.
---earl on 2/24/10


Cluny I believe you are correct. The question is at best ambiguous.

What is Atheist asking?

Are scriptures the Word of God?

OR

Are scriptures the word of God?

OR

Is Scripture the Word of God?

OR

Is Scripture the word of God?

---Warwick on 2/24/10


MARK,

Paul, Jesus, and All the apostles ALL talked facts and they All spoke to the secular world. Jesus even partied with them.

They got trick questions. But most were honest. But none of them shied away and said stupid things you hear Christians say today (i.e."Jesus loves you" or "If you died today..." or "He died for you...")

NONE of the Apostle or Jesus spoke that ignorance to the world. They went fact for fact. Were NOT afraid of the world.

LOOK, either you believe the Bible is fact or quit. Atheist points in many cases are valid. He laughs at silly ignorant responses he gets. He never could with Paul, the Apostles, or Christ. Read what they said and compare to what you hear today.
---PASTOR_JIM on 2/24/10


more excellent way, I wasn't referring to the "Anglican" church when I used "anglicized", but was trying to say bible is the English variation of the Greek word biblios which means book. I use the terms: Bible, Scriptures, and teh Word of God to refer to all the writings we have contained in our Holy Bibles. By contending so strongly against this subject you are sounding like the Pharisees whom Jesus rebuked for "straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel." God's commands and words are still the same, regardless of the language that is used ot refer to them. If that were not so, God would probably not allowed so many different translations to be sent out.
---tommy3007 on 2/24/10


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Pastor Jim:

What is going on brother?

You answered the blog question with "I am not sure what you are asking" and then proceeded in two posts to accuse all of us of dodging the "honest" questions of the world.

I for one do not see many "honest" questions from the world. Do people like Bill Maher really offer "honest" questions?

Before we accept Christ's gift, we are ENEMIES of God. We have no love for Him, no time for Him, no interest in Him. We wanted to make fools of God and His followers, to prove to the world we are right, not Him.

All I can offer to the world is God's love. Its the only thing that can break through their HATE.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/23/10


Atheist, read them with an open heart and God will prove himself.
---Fay on 2/23/10


It seems as though nobody ever explained to Jesus that regardless of His WILL that we abide in the doctrine of Christ, it has been decided that it is okay to call scripture "THE BIBLE" (either ACCEPT the truth or say "Silly Jesus"!!....go on, I know you got it in you.).

Personally, I think that "Anglican" is part of "MAN" and would rather not argue with God.

TRUTH is often UNCOMFORTABLE to acknowledge.
---more_excellent_way on 2/23/10


more excellent way, there is nothing "wrong" with using the word "bible" to refer to Scripture,as the word bible is merely an "Anglicized" rendering of the Greek word biblios which means book. Pastor Jim, why didn't you tell ateist who the 1st 4 Apostles were? It's written right in Scripture, Andrew, Simon, James and John. I believe the whole Bible is the INSPIRED Owrd of God, written by men, but inspired by God and every word conveys the exact thought that He wanted to give us.
---tommy3007 on 2/23/10


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David had GOD IN ENTIRETY. Even though the O.T. scriptures foretold of the promised Messiah, David did not wait for the fulfillment, he considered the promise DONE (Gods' WILL, it is DONE).

The Holy Spirit wasn't given to US until Jesus was glorified, but David was already inspired because he trusted that Gods' will is DONE....and said "The LORD (FATHER) said to MY lord (Messiah) "Sit at my right hand".

Mark 12:36
"David himself, inspired by the Holy Spirit,...".

John 7:39
"Now this he said ABOUT THE SPIRIT,........for as yet the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified".

If lies satisfy you, it is them you will find (seek and you shall find).
---more_excellent_way on 2/23/10


\\ I think Atheist (and the rest of the secular world) would like to receive a straight answer to a straight question.\\

Contrary to what Pastor Jim thinks, some questions (especially when phrased in certain ways) do not admit a simple "Yes" or "No" answer.

Jesus could see through such traps, Himself.

I gave a straight answer, though by the nature of the question it cannot be answered by a mere English monosyllable (yes/no).

If you don't like the answer you get, don't ask the question.
---Cluny on 2/23/10


At least 99.5% of the people on this planet would think this to be a completely ridiculous question and would jump at the chance to persecute the author (kind of reminiscient of Jesus's fate, huh?).

The word "bible" is not found in scripture (that word is MAN'S designation of SCRIPTURE and is FALSE).

The REAL/proper designation is DOCTRINE OF CHRIST and it is VERY important to understand it as such because now we have GOD IN ENTIRETY (unlike the Israelites/Jews)

.....or are you going to ignore what God says in this verse?.

2 John 1:9
"Any one who goes ahead and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God, he who abides in the doctrine has both the Father and the Son".
---more_excellent_way on 2/23/10


I think Atheist (and the rest of the secular world) would like to receive a straight answer to a straight question.

Instead of the usual Ignorant "Jesus loves you" stuff you hear from (cough! cough!) "Christians.

The problem is: All of these Pseudo Carnal Bourgoise so-called Christians agree with Atheist convictions that the Bible is a Fairy Tale, so they squirm when asked a factual direct question. Generally run home and lose what little or no faith they had.

They live in this world and believe the fallacies of man and have NO faith in God, his scripture, or His words.

THEY'RE JUST FACADES!
---PASTOR_JIM on 2/23/10


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Yes ALL scripture is God breathed and is the Word of God. Jesus is also known as the Word of God made flesh.
---Leslie on 2/23/10


I think Atheist is a Christian playing "the devil's advocate". (else why would he keep poking?)
---1st_cliff on 2/23/10


Atheist: I am not trying to convert you by stealth, my answer is the truth as i have known & experienced it. Behold, the God that inspired the Holy Bible scriptures is a LIVING GOD, while reading HIS inspired words(with a mind to know HIS truth), HE still ministers(inspires) to the reader just as HE did to the writer of old. This you can find out yourself.
---Adetunji on 2/23/10


Are scriptures the Word of God? No!

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
---TheSeg on 2/23/10


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P.S.

Maybe someone could actually answer your question on who were the first 4 Apostles.

Ignorance of ones own religion is very pathetic.

An entire Blog and no one could even answer that simple question.

POTLUCK IS READY!!!
BIBLE STRUDY HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO NO ATTENDANCE!!!!
---PASTOR_JIM on 2/22/10


ATHEIST,

Not sure what you are asking here.

If you are asking if the words in scripture are direct words of God, then the answer is NO and YES.

All scipture that is prefaced by Thus Saith the Lord etc, All Prophetic writngs, The words of Jesus Christ are direct words of God.

The other writings are preachings/sermons are inpired by the Holy Spirit (i.e Sauls Letters).

As in your other blog question on Tense. Scripture is written in 3-4 known layers. All scripture is written with no tense as Time is only an illusion of Man and not God (The I AM), Jesus confimed this as well.

The LXX and the NT use Greek Aorist non-tense in many areas.
---PASTOR_JIM on 2/22/10


YES! Written by man inspired by God.
---candice on 2/22/10


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