ChristiaNet MallWorld's Largest Christian MallChristian BlogsFree Bible QuizzesFree Ecards and Free Greeting CardsLoans, Debt, Business and Insurance Articles

Did Christ Atone For All Sins

1.Did Christ atone for "all" the sins of "all"?
2.Did Christ atone for some of the sins of "all" people?
3.Did Christ atone for "all" the sins of some people?

Join Our Free Penpals and Take The Sin & Repentance Quiz
 ---steven-rem7000 on 2/28/10
     Helpful Blog Vote (6)

Post a New Blog



Mich, Kath etc.
The Greek word for natural man is psuchikos. It describes the materialist, who lives as if there were nothing beyond this physical life. This is the kind of life common to all animals.

The natural man is where we all start life, the life inherited from Adam. The natural man is unregenerate man, unsaved man.

I'm not the only one who thinks so.( I checked some commentaries to see how I could misunderstand what seemed so clear) Every modern Bible teacher that I checked also sees the "natural man" this way.I'm sure there are some that share your interpretation, but I just couldn't find them.
---Donna66 on 3/8/10


kath, I could not have said that better myself.
Just as we start out as babies in the flesh, we start out as babies in Christ.
No New Christians knows the mysteries and spiritual things of Christ. We have to be taught and this takes submitting to God.
That is why we are told to seek, ask, knock.
This also shows that to become Christian, Born again, we have to repent(change mind) and believe Christ before the Holy Spirit can show us anything.
Christ paid for all sin, BUT the only ones that gain the prize of eternal life are those that believe it and live it- those that put on the mind of Christ.
---miche3754 on 3/8/10


As you can see Steven rem, Kathr will attack your person for not agreeing with her. From what tribe are you from she ask, which one do you now belong to"
Right away she finds ways to smear you personally. Discussing scripture was not her goal but to smear your name if you do not agree, that's why she answered you. Kind of, you have it coming, for how dare you question her. Maybe it was replacement thology she says.
---mary on 3/8/10


Donna66, 1st Corinthians Paul is talking to baby carnal Christians who have failed to see they have TWO natures within them at war. The Old man, and the New man. He is saying the Old man OUR Adam nature does not receive Spiritual revelation. PUT OFF the Old man PUT On the New. and goes on in 1st Corinthians 2-3-4 and so on even to the end, because even dealing with GIFTS and tongues, they were acting out of their OLD nature. Paul calls our old nature CARNAL. Every time WE sin, we are acting our of our old CARNAL Nature.

Not putting salt in a wound here but on to chapter 3, when we exalt any teacher WE are showing ourselves CARNAL and not using the Spiritual WISDOM we now have IN CHRIST!
---kathr4453 on 3/8/10


Donna66, the natural man is our old adam nature, our unsanctified old adam nature. The WE is now those with the New Nature. Yes only the NEW Man receives those things.

But that brings up an interesting point. If one's mind is renewed first to know as Paul further states the MATURE wisdom of all things spiritual, as even Paul didn't know anything until he was taken up to the 3rd heaven AFTER he was saved, why was he so shocked and asked WHO was talking to Him on teh road to demascus. Wouldn't he already KNOW who it was?
---kathr4453 on 3/8/10




Miche, Kath etc.
1Cr 2:12-13 Now WE have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God, that WE might know the things that are freely given to US of God.
Which things also WE speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

1Cr 2:14 BUT the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

Can you see the noticable shift here between WE and the NATURAL MAN?

Who is this "natural" man? Who deems the things of God foolishness? who CANNOT discern spiritual things? A Christian???
---Donna66 on 3/8/10


You don't get Kath and i can't make you understand it. Separate who you want just as religions are built upon interpretations. God's grace is the same for whom it is intended and there is ONLY "ONE" bride. For the bridegroom is not an adulterer as you would have it. What you believe is the truth, I condemn as false. God will separate the sheep from the goats. There are only TWO kinds of people in this world. The elect and the reprobate. You concocted several more, how convenient to fit "YOUR" interpretation when in fact there is only "ONE"
God be glorified in the hearts of Israel (sinners) whom Christ was slain before the foundation of the world ,whom HE WILL receive, for they were bought with a price.
---steven-rem7000 on 3/8/10


steven that is the problem thinking everyone who is born again NOW becomes Israel. I believe your doctrine is anti-semitic, who wants to ROB Israel of Her coming Blessings, by trying to rub her out altogether called replacement theology. The Church DID NOT Replace Israel.
Tell me, what tribe are you in Zechariah 12-14 when Jesus returns? Or will you be one of the 2/3 who die before His return? Zechariah clearly called each tribe by name....which one do you NOW belong to?
---kathr4453 on 3/8/10


When Paul was talking about blindness He was talking to believers most of the times, why? Because they were the only one's who understood that the lost were blind. The lost don't believe they are blind. Yet Christ spoke of their blindness to them too, but they did not understand spiritual matters- markv

OMG we agreed on something!!(the 1st part of this post)

what Christ meant when he said this was that they would not understand because he had not released the Holy Spirit fully yet to show them. They didn't understand spiritual matters until that point. The disciples only understood what Jesus told them to do, NOT the spiritual things of God yet.
Please look at context and who Christ is speaking to when you are quoting scripture
---miche3754 on 3/8/10


Rom 9:4 Who are Israelites, to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises,
Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect.

For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

obvisouly you don't know that spiritual Israel, are the Israel of God. ALL whomever the Father gave to Christ are Israel and the bride also known as the church (set apart ones)

You Kath think God is unrighteous to fit your interpetations. sorry for you:-( honestly
---steven-rem7000 on 3/8/10




1 Samuel 9:16
To morrow about this time I will send thee a man out of the land of Benjamin, and thou shalt anoint him to be captain over my people Israel, that he may save my people out of the hand of the Philistines: for I have looked upon my people, because their cry is come unto me.
---kathr4453 on 3/8/10


CHRIST atoned for the sins of all. But many choose to love sin and reject Grace.
---Samuel on 3/8/10


steven, MY PEOPLE HIS PEOPLE is clearly a reference to ISRAEL. The Church is HIS BODY.

Just like in Matthew 24-25...I don't have to worry about taking FLIGHT on the SABBATH day either. That is not to me!!

My people Called by My Name also is Israel, unless steven YOU consider yourself WICKED and responsible for our land not being healed.
---kathr4453 on 3/8/10


didnt make sense Kath
My Jesus saves all his people that what he did when he finished the work the Father sent him to do. Kath does not believe he has power over ALL flesh (Joh 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him)and that flesh has power over him. If I were you Id be changing gods to the true and living God. That means (Act 20:21b,repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.) changing gods, Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

If it pleases God (not you) to change your heart to see how wicked it is then and ONLY THEN will you come, meaning he sought you and he gets ALL THE GLORY
---steven-rem7000 on 3/8/10


When Paul was talking about blindness He was talking to believers most of the times, why? Because they were the only one's who understood that the lost were blind. The lost don't believe they are blind. Yet Christ spoke of their blindness to them too, but they did not understand spiritual matters.
This next statement is very true and should be remembered with the heart.
"All are LOST before coming to Christ. We are drawn by the Holy Spirit through the preaching of God's word, the HS coming upon our flesh and convicting it of sin.
Our sin is shown by the commandments. It tells us if we have broken these, we have sinned and we need God.
---MarkV. on 3/8/10


Donna,
I think it is because they choose not to.
I chose not to listen several times when he called me.
We know what the truth is. I know for me, I thought I could do a better job with my life than God. Now it is different.
When Paul talks of spiritually blind, he isn't talking to sinners. He is taking to Christians.
All are LOST before coming to Christ. We are drawn by the Holy Spirit through the preaching of God's word, the HS coming upon our flesh and convicting it of sin.
Our sin is shown by the commandments. It tells us if we have broken these, we have sinned and we need God. The Gospel is simple and clear- repent and Believe Christ, follow after him.
---miche3754 on 3/8/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Menopause


No. 2 is not correct. The Lord's propitious, reconciling, and atoning death on the cross is applied to only those who are saved *1. Christians are forgiven, and all our sins are covered *2. Most Arminianists believe that Jesus died for the sins of all, but it is efficacious only for those who are saved *3. Most Calvinists believe that the Lord only died for those who were elected to salvation, i.e. the saved.
*1 Romans 11:7, 2Corinthians 2:15-16, 4:3-4, 1Timothy 1:16, Hebrews 4:2, 7:25.
*2 Acts 22:16, Romans 3:25-26, 1Corinthians 6:11, Hebrews 9:14, 1John 1:7, Revelations 1:5.
*3 Romans 10:10-11, 2Corinthians 5:14-15, Hebrews 2:9-10, 1John 2:2, 4:2-3, 10, 15.
---Glenn on 3/7/10


1st Adam include ALL humanity
Last Adam Includes for ALL Humanity.
The death of Christ satisfied the justice of God on behalf of the whole world 1 John 2:2 and 2 Cor. 5:19. He died as a Substitute for all men Heb. 2:9, 1 Tim. 2:6, even for those who reject Him 2 Pet. 2:1. ... Romans 4:1-8. The same is taught in John chapter 6:51, ---kathr4453 on 3/6/10

Many people are taken by the seemingly no clause New Testament verses, misapplied. Myself at one time. Until it was pointed out....that no prophets..OF GOD...supports/witnesses the Cath-olic teaching of the above.
By researching/comparing/weighing prophets prophecies with the N.T. find...truth.
---Trav on 3/8/10


"The natural man (still being conformed to the world without the indwelling Guidance of the Spirit) receives not the things of the Spirit of God : for they are foolishness unto him, neither can he know them, b/c they are Spiritually Discerned. 1 Cor.2:12-14"
---MarkV. on 3/6/10

MarkV again Paul is talking to CHRISTIANS. Of coarse the unbelieving don't understand ....---kathr4453 on 3/6/10

By ones own mouth sometimes...

1 Corinthians 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Titus 2:5
To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
---Trav on 3/8/10


steven-rem-7000. You may want to look at other verses that DO SAY ALL. To save His People of coarse was referring to ISRAEL. Your verse doesn't say anything about Gentiles either However....

If you were to read Romans 3 you will see Paul quoting David in Psalms 14:1-5...concerning "what was WRITTEN".
Romans 3 concludes:

21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets,

22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:( between Jew and Gentile)

23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God,
---kathr4453 on 3/8/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Christian Penpals


Is it a sin not to respond.

Mat 1:21 And she will bear a son, and you shall call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins.

doesn't say "all" says His people

Rom 8:29 because whom He foreknew, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be the First-born among many brothers.
Rom 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
Rom 8:32 Truly He who did not spare His own Son, but gave Him up on behalf of us all, how will He not freely give all things to us with Him?
Rom 8:33

Who will bring any charge against God's elect? God is the One justifying!
---steven-rem7000 on 3/7/10


"The natural man (still being conformed to the world without the indwelling Guidance of the Spirit) receives not the things of the Spirit of God : for they are foolishness unto him, neither can he know them, b/c they are Spiritually Discerned. 1 Cor.2:12-14"
---MarkV. on 3/6/10

MarkV again Paul is talking to CHRISTIANS. Of coarse the unbelieving don't understand the deeper mysteries of God, the rapture or many other things. Paul here is not discussing HOW and WHO becomes saved.

The doctrine of Justification you will find in Romans 3 & 4. You will also see in Romans 3 & 4 Paul is not a that time discussing sanctification.
---kathr4453 on 3/6/10


Like Donna66 I don't want to join a debate.

My understanding is that God has to initiate a person coming to Christ. The question is whether God draws everybody at sometime or other or all and any time.

I think that God will draw/call everybody at sometime, and it is the person's choice to respond. As with many topics and verses, it depends which verse we focus on and believe more than other. "Whosoever will may come." or "Many are called few are chosen." umm.

Some people believe ALL will eventually get saved. "By one sin entered the world, by one all will be saved." umm..I like this view. I just can't believe it. I wish it was true.
---Rod4Him on 3/6/10


1st Adam include ALL humanity
Last Adam Includes for ALL Humanity.
The death of Christ satisfied the justice of God on behalf of the whole world 1 John 2:2 and 2 Cor. 5:19. He died as a Substitute for all men Heb. 2:9, 1 Tim. 2:6, even for those who reject Him 2 Pet. 2:1.

But the individual does not personally benefit from the death of Christ until he comes to Christ in faith, through belief benefit. Romans 4:1-8.

The same is taught in John chapter 6:51, Christ, the bread of life, gave His flesh for the life of the world , but only those who personally eat and drink enjoy the benefits of His death. God gave His only begotten Son for the world. The only ones who benefit are the "whosoevers" who believe John 3:16.
---kathr4453 on 3/6/10


Send a Free Appreciation Ecard


If unbeleif is a sin or reject or not acceptance... which sin is it Christ died for that will not be forgiven. In other words which sin did he not pay that God sends. GOD "sends" people to hell for? either he paid for all sins or it ain't FINISHED
---steven-rem7000 on 3/6/10


How powerful is God? Can God do anything?
Can a man turn away from God? Laughable!
If so, than you really don't know him.
What else is where? Nothing!

The lord said some have been blinded, by God!
So he can forgive them, thereby forgiving you, the same things.
We all do the same things.

I hear people talk about sin and how you should stop.
I sin all the time, I know, I do! I cant stop. It's like a part of me.
So, because someone tells me, I try not to sin or I dont do that.
Are you better than me? In no wise!

God's word! For all have sinned!
All sins will be forgiven to the sons of men.
Luke 17:4
---TheSeg on 3/6/10


Miche3754 --- Question. Those who do not come to Christ...is it because they WILL not or they CANNOT? If a man CHOOSES to come to Christ, is he not making his own "righteous choice" the cause of his salvation? And..how does a spiritually blind sinner do this?

I'm not trying to join a debate. I know God does not drag us unwillingly into His Kingdom. But it is a mystery that puzzles me and scripture seem so dependent on interpretation.
I am like you. I came running to God! But not the first time I heard the Gospel. When I looked back, I could see all the "improbable" events that led me in that direction. "Running to God" did not seem like a "decision" I made. I thought it more a neccessity.
---Donna66 on 3/6/10


The natural man consist of all who are lost. And they cannot or will not come to the light so they can have light. God has to initiate the process by quickening their hearts towards Christ. Otherwise they continue their way to distruction. That is why Scripture declares,

"The natural man (still being conformed to the world without the indwelling Guidance of the Spirit) receives not the things of the Spirit of God : for they are foolishness unto him, neither can he know them, b/c they are Spiritually Discerned. 1 Cor.2:12-14"
---MarkV. on 3/6/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Accounting


MarkV, your comment on 3/4 would contradict God's word. We also see in Revelation that man from EVERY tribe, every nation every tongue will be present.

The heavens declare the glory of God, (Psalm )

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the ungodlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities,his eternal power and divine nature , have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1.19-20)
---kathr4453 on 3/6/10


I thought you might object to my statement: "Surely, God is the initiator of any move we make toward Him." Why some don't respond to God and some do, is a mystery to me. I don't believe that those who respond are in any way wiser or better than those who don't.
---Donna66 on 3/5/10
You are welcome !!
You put it truthfully!
I think the reason some respond and others don't is because of self or free will.
God doesn't make us do anything he just says here I am. He has already proven who he is he doesn't have to do anything else.
I know with me, I was so beat down and broken, when he called I went running to him!
He has done better with my life than I ever could.
---miche3754 on 3/5/10


Truth from Shawn worth repeating:
-- Lawrence :
Brother, Despite whatever twisting the world has tried to do to God's Word, we have received not the spirit of the world, but the spirit of God :
so we might know the things freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's worldly wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

The natural man(still being conformed to the world without the indwelling Guidance of the Spirit) receives not the things of the Spirit of God : for they are foolishness unto him, neither can he know them, b/c they are Spiritually Discerned. 1 Cor.2:12-14
---MarkV. on 3/5/10


Frindley:

I had to respond to your blog which have no scriptual basis.
If what you are saying is true(God has already chosen some to be lost and some saved)there would be no need to preach the gospel.
Just because God knows the ending at the begining,the indivual makes the choice whit his or her free will,to acept or reject the savior(JESUS CHRIST).
Jesus paid the penalty for SIN of every human,alive, dead, not yet born ALL.

Jesus atone for pass present future SINS,ALL.
---lionel on 3/5/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Fundraisers


Donna,
You said,"the law of God is that each person is responsible for his own sin".
Then you say,"inclination to sin we inherit from our first ancestor-Adam."
Paul says "for the offence of one(Adam) judgement came upon all men to condemnation)- (punished by death as Adam was.)
Inclination to sin and inherited sin are not the same.One means you are infected and the other means you may become infected.
When you compare your "inherited" statement from "our first anceator -Adam " and "responsible" statement "for his own sin" it becomes a contradiction .One is sin transferance and the other is not sin transferance.You quote scripture but do you know what you said here?
---earl on 3/5/10


miche3754 Thanks. I thought you might object to my statement: "Surely, God is the initiator of any move we make toward Him." Why some don't respond to God and some do, is a mystery to me. I don't believe that those who respond are in any way wiser or better than those who don't.
---Donna66 on 3/5/10


Dittos to miche and Donna66. How encouraging to hear this stated so well!!

I was praying this morning about the amount of negatives in these forums.

I guess I should pray about these blogs more often.

Thanks all.
---Rod4Him on 3/5/10


WOW Donna66!!
Your last post, just wonderful and so true!!!
I know I didn't deserve saving, but man I am glad he did it and cleaned me up and still cleaning me up, dying to self daily so Christ can live in me and Have HIS way!

Just and awesome post sister, I had to tell you that!
---miche3754 on 3/5/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Ecommerce


Repentance is a response to God's grace not a precondition for it.

How true!
As sinners, why would we ever want to repent? Surely, God is the initiator of any move we make toward Him. Christ atoned for all sins of all people. But, all people won't respond to Him and accept His forgiveness.

He didn't die for "some" of your sins, and cannot die again for the remainder... so when you take Him as Savior, all your sins (past present and future) are forgiven. (IF we had to enumerate every sin to be forgiven of it, we would all be lost!)

NOW you are brought to repentance...not for salvation... but out of LOVE, because you are mindful of His Sacrifice and Grace freely given despite your unworthiness.
---Donna66 on 3/5/10


Markv,
God giving us a choice is NOT denying his sovereignty, Jeez, how many time do you have to be told that?
How many times has God given man the choice?
From the beginning.
God shows his sovereignty by providing the choices.... Choose life or death...heaven or hell....Believe or not to believe..
God shows his love by letting us choose.
He does not MAKE us choose.
He proved he is God by dying and rising again, what more do we need as proof?
Friendly Blogger is wrong because it deliberately deletes out all the scripture that says who soever will. And Scripture does not lie. Christ died for all and the ones who get the prize are the ones who believe!
---miche3754 on 3/5/10


Freindly blocker, I like what you have to say. You laid it down on the line without having to get into any arguments. He is God, He is Omniscience knowing all, Omnipotent, able to do whatsoever He desires when He desires and in control of all things, not only able to see all actions of humans, but to direct them to the order of His plan, animals, the heavens and the earth. Throughout the Bible the laws of nature, the course of history, the varying fortunes of individuals, are all attributed to God's providential control. All things from the heavens and the earth, from the Seraphim down to the tiny atom, are ordered by His never-failing providence.
---MarkV. on 3/5/10


That is why it is impossible to save any one because God has already made the the determination of who gets saved and who isn't.
Repentance is a response to God's grace not a precondition for it.
---Friendly_Blogger on 3/4/10
Fits scripture alright.

Jeremiah 31:3
The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.
John 6:44No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 4:15
The (Samaritan)woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.
12Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well,
---Trav on 3/5/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Jewelry


earl:

Judges make judgments based on questions of law (i.e. "does this law apply?" or "how does this law apply?). Jurors make judgments based on questions of fact (i.e. "did this event happen?", or "is this testimony believable?"). Neither has the right to ask "is this law reasonable?".

Even supreme court justices don't get that choice. They only get to decide "is this law consistent with the constitution?", or at best "is this law consistent with what the framers of the constitution intended?" (inferring what they did not say from what they did say).

Judges and juries don't get to make the law - they only get to interpret and apply law that is already given.
---StrongAxe on 3/5/10


The Bible makes it clear that "remnant" refers ONLY to faithful Jews.
---Cluny on 3/1/10

Cluny, not picking an argument...just clarifying "jews" above. The prophets and scriptures....say all Israel. Jews/Judah was just 1/12th. It is important and clarifying to understanding the New Covenant context.

Isaiah 46:3
Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel,...
Micah 2:12
I will surely assemble, O Jacob, all of thee,..
Amos 9:9
For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

Testifying to both Houses:Heb 8:8
---Trav on 3/5/10


earl -- Jurors don't judge the law. They follow it as it is. The law of God is that each person is responsible for his own sin.

But His word is definite that we all sin!
The inclination to sin, we have all inherited from our first ancestor, Adam.
What other ancestors do matters little because they also are descendants of Adam.

God is judge of all. And unlike human judges, He demands perfect justice. He cannot "ignore" sin. If WE ignore our sins, we have no hope of being accepted by God.
---Donna66 on 3/4/10


Is there a law, commandment or rule that if one man sins all men thereafter have also sinned and reap the same punishment?
Would you as a juror support this law or rule and that you believe the above is just judgement law?
If your ancestor sinned what happens next?
---earl on 3/4/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Furniture


Jesus atonement is sufficient to save all, but not all heard about the atonement and already heading to hell. Millions upon millions never heard the gospel of Christ.
---MarkV. on 3/4/10


Friendly blogger,
What you said directly contradicts several things Jesus said including "whosoever will believe".
Another, "God is long suffering not willing that ANY should perish".
It is clear that God doesn't make us choose him.
He has already done his part. We can either take it or leave it.
God is not going to make anyone love him.
That is NOT the kind of Love God is or wants.

Christ died for the sins of ALL mankind.
The only ones who will benefit from it are the ones who truly believe this BIG Fact.
---miche3754 on 3/4/10


God new who would respond to his offer of grace before the creation of the world and offers grace only to his elect.

That is why it is impossible to save any one because God has already made the the determination of who gets saved and who isn't. All we can do is minister to people to to make them aware of their possible salvation an an earlier time in their lives so they can be better tools for accomplishing Gods plan for their lives. Repentance is a response to God's grace not a precondition for it.
---Friendly_Blogger on 3/4/10


While Jesus's atonement was OFFERED to all, it was only GIVEN to those who were actually willing to receive it.

---StrongAxe on 3/3/10

I would change past tense to present tense.

While Jesus's atonement IS OFFERED to all, it IS only GIVEN to those who ARE actually willing to receive it.

The POWER of His Blood is only effective in those who have received Jesus Christ and . Now ANYONE and EVERYONE can enter in through His Blood! Whereas before only the high priest, once a year for the people

Now anyone can come BOLDLY to the throne of GRACE through Jesus Christ to find help and MERCY!!!!

Hebrews 10:19
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
---kathr4453 on 3/3/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Laptops


Good answer Mima!!!!!!
---miche3754 on 3/3/10


Steven rem, the answer is three (3). He atone for all the sins of some people. If He had atoned for all, then all would not owe a debt. It would have been paid for by Christ. And since the lost are heading to hell, if God does not save them, it is because they still owe the debt. If they did not owe the debt, God would be condemning them for nothing, since their sins would had been atoned for.
We know the atonement did not cover them for millions upon millions are heading to hell.
---MarkV. on 3/3/10


StrongAxe I appreciate this statement.
"I can offer you a glass of water, but it won't do you any good unless you actually accept it and drink it."
---StrongAxe on 3/3/10

I believe in order for me to offer you a glass of water I must first have placed the water in a glass. And that provision was made for all the sins of all the work.
---mima on 3/3/10


lionel:

This is the crux of the matter:
While Jesus's atonement was OFFERED to all, it was only GIVEN to those who were actually willing to receive it.

I can offer you a glass of water, but it won't do you any good unless you actually accept it and drink it.
---StrongAxe on 3/3/10

This is very true, but it doesn't change the fact that he still died for all mankind's sin.
Which is really the answer to what steven is asking.
---miche3754 on 3/3/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Lawyer


lionel:

This is the crux of the matter:
While Jesus's atonement was OFFERED to all, it was only GIVEN to those who were actually willing to receive it.

I can offer you a glass of water, but it won't do you any good unless you actually accept it and drink it.
---StrongAxe on 3/3/10


Christ atone for the sins of the whole world.
But as many as received Him to them gave he the power to become the sons of God.
Christ left no one out,the lost did not receive [the SAVIOR]Jesus Christ.
ALL-----ALL-----ALL.
---lionel on 3/2/10


Christ atone for the sins of the whole world.
But as many as received Him to them gave he the power to become the sons of God.
Christ left no one out,the lost did not receive [the SAVIOR]Jesus Christ.
ALL-----ALL-----ALL.
---lionel on 3/2/10


Also, if the goats's sins were atoned for, what reason would there then be to cast them into "everlasting punishment"? (Matthew 25:46)
---StrongAxe on 3/1/10

They will be cast in to the lake of fire for not believing and accepting the gift given FREELY by God to reconcile ALL mankind back to him.
Basically for choosing death instead of life.
---miche3754 on 3/2/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Dedicated Hosting


John3:16 We all was once part of the world
---[ionel on 3/2/10


1Cr 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
2Cr 5:14-15 For the love of Christ constraineth us, because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: And [that] he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
1Ti 1:15 This [is] a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.
Philippians 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
---MIchael on 3/2/10


Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations, and then shall the end come.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by [that] man whom he hath ordained, [whereof] he hath given assurance unto all [men], in that he hath raised him from the dead.
The point is we don't know who is to be saved, but God does, therefore this good news is to all and salvation is to all who believe. We can't just see a person, say Christ did not atone for all his sins, and not give them the good news of life eternal through Christ.
---MIchael on 3/2/10


Bill_bila5659, The right context is, lit.Gk: "My little children, I write this to you that you all not sin. Though to whom somebody sin, a Counsellor we have by whom Father, righteous Jesus Christ, and he the appeasement being yours for sin, except not for ours alone, but even for all the world. The one that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in that one. The one that says they abide in him, also conforms themself so to walk even as he walked." I John 2:1,2,4,6.
---Eloy on 3/1/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Online Marketing


Cluny, As I have posted Jesus' own words, I and Christ clearly proclaim the truth that Jesus Christ did not die for the world, but only for they who accept him. lit.Gk: "For God he so loved the harmony, so as the Son of him, the single-sired he gave, that all in who obey him be not abandoned, but have life eternal. The obedient to him is not judged, but the not obeying already has been judged, that not obedient to the Name of the single-sired Son of God." John 3:16,18. "Love not the world, neither the things in the world. If any person love the world, the love of the Father is not in that one." I John 2:15.
---Eloy on 3/1/10


1st_cliff:

If that were true, how many Christians do you personally know who are healthy and vigorous (let alone alive) at the young age of 120 (let alone older)?


Cluny:

How could Enoch, Elijah, and Moses be in heaven if their sins needs to be atoned for?

Also, if the goats's sins were atoned for, what reason would there then be to cast them into "everlasting punishment"? (Matthew 25:46)
---StrongAxe on 3/1/10


\\"I pray not for the world, except for them which you have given me, for they are yours: and all mine are yours\\

The same Gospel--John--has Jesus using the SAME word for "world"--KOSMOS--in John 3:16, when He describes how much God loved the world, that you claim Jesus is not praying for.
---Cluny on 3/1/10


Christ died for (atoned for) Adamic sin only!
the one sin that could not just be repented of and forgiven!
That is "the sin" that prevented us from living indefinitely!
---1st_cliff on 3/1/10


Read These Insightful Articles About VoIP Service


Jesus said, looking up to heaven: "I pray not for the world, except for them which you have given me, for they are yours: and all mine are yours. But that one that rejects me in front of persons will be rejected in front of the angels of God. For the Son of man will come in the glory who's Father of him, with the angels of him, then he will reward to each according to the works of them. Every tree that brings not forward good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire. If a person abide not in me, that one is thrown forward as a branch, and is withered: and men gather them and throw into the fire, and they are burned. And these will go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."
---Eloy on 3/1/10


\\ Cluny,
Did Jesus atone for Enoch,Elijah and Moses?The apostles places two of these three at the transfiguration which is of course pre cruxifiction.
---earl on 3/1/10\\

Why would He not have?
---Cluny on 3/1/10


\\How about the goats in Matthew 25
46: "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."\\

Et reliqua.

Are you saying that Christ did NOT atone for their sins?
---Cluny on 3/1/10


If Jesus did not atone for "all" the sins of "all" people then the Bible is mistaken when the word "whosoever"is used.
---mima on 3/1/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Settlements


>1.Did Christ atone for "all" the sins of "all"?

Yes.
---djconklin on 3/1/10


"And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world." (1 John 2:2) But we must join Him in this, or we are not in this forgiveness. "'And whenever you stand forgiving, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses.'" (Mark 11:25) While on the cross, Jesus in His heart desired forgiveness for all people. So, by desiring this, on the cross, He already did it, in His heart. But this all-forgiveness lives in God's love, and we have this forgiveness for ourselves, only while we are living this all-forgiveness for any and all others.
---Bill_bila5659 on 3/1/10


The answer to all 3 questions is no. Christ's sacrifice only atones for the repented sins of the person who repents, for no sin is forgiven until it is repented of. The prodigal son remained lost and completely separated from his father, and only after he repented or returned to his father could he be restored and blessed.
---Eloy on 3/1/10


Cluny,
Did Jesus atone for Enoch,Elijah and Moses?The apostles places two of these three at the transfiguration which is of course pre cruxifiction.
---earl on 3/1/10


Read These Insightful Articles About Internet Services


JHN 17:9 "I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours.

Jhn 17:10 "All mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them.

Jhn 17:11 "And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one. [ESV]

Sure sounds like the choice 3 to me, "all" the sins of some people?

Also note: the "One" does not mean The Father and Son are the SAME rather they have a unity of purpose. This clairdies John 10:30.
---Friendly_Blogger on 2/28/10


JHN 17:9 "I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours.

Jhn 17:10 "All mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them.

Jhn 17:11 "And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one. [ESV]

Sure sounds like the choice 3 to me, "all" the sins of some people?

Also note: the "One" does not mean The Father and Son are the SAME rather they have a unity of purpose. This explaines John 10:30.
---Friendly_Blogger on 2/28/10


christ willingly accepted the punishment for the sins of the world and died on the cross because of it.
---tom2 on 2/28/10


Copyright© 1996-2015 ChristiaNet®. All Rights Reserved.