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Explain 1 John 3:9

Explain what looks like a contradiction between I John 3:9 and I John 1:10.

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Rosalie, your answer were very rewarding to me and hope for everyone else. Not many believe in the election of God. I think their flesh or humanness want's to take some credit for their salvation. I have heard it put this way, that a lost person was almost dead, and with his last breath he saved himself. Scripture tells us a person is dead completely with no breath in him when God brings him to spiritual life. Just as He did to Lazurus. From death unto life by the Word of Christ.
---MarkV. on 3/16/10

I'm enjoying the website very much. The answers are very helpful from everyone.
---julie on 3/16/10

No the word of God is perfect in harmony.
1 John 3:10 is for the Elect who is born of God. Even though they sinned, they are forgiven because of Christ.

Those who are no elect, they have to required to pay the penalty of their sins. So Law required because their is no grace applied.

Speaking of 1 John 1:10 is all about lies. Those who don't accept they are sinners, the word of God is not with them. All of us sinned including Elect but the difference Elect was forgiven as though they never sinned.
---rosalie on 3/14/10

-James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
-1Peter 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
-Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
-1Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
---lon on 3/15/10

Did Rod4Him anwser your question to your satisfaction?
---Tom on 3/14/10

Rod4Him. Good post. very clearly stated and I agree. No contradiction.
---Donna66 on 3/14/10

1 John 3:9 confirms 1 John 1:7. 1 John 1:10 confirms Rom. 3:23. 1 John 3:9 & 1:7 bears witness to Gal. 3:24. While Gal.3:22 bears witness to them all.
Sin according to the law, is a transgression of that law. However, the law is not of faith, for it was not established for the righteous. Is the law sin? Of course not, If not for the law man would not have known sin. Yet in accordance with the new covenant, whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Therefore it is given to the righteous to live by faith. One abiding in the faith of Jesus, as one born of God, does not sin, for His 'Seed', His Word, is ever present, and that one embraces His word by faith, trusting that word to be true. Which takes the believer back to 1 John 1:7,3:5,6
---josef on 3/14/10

Catherine ... "No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in Him, and He cannot sin, because He is born of God"

Are you talking about Jesus (you say He and Him) or about those who are saved and "born again"?

I have never come across anyone (except on these blogs) who claims never to sin. Not even the "saved" & "born again"
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/12/10

In 1 John 1:10, where God speaks, "If we say we have not sinned", this is different than saying "we have no sin". Now, over in 1 John 3:9, No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in Him, and He cannot sin, because He is born of God....I think it all has to do with forgiveness of sins.
---catherine on 3/12/10

I must be missing something, but I don't see what may be a contradiction.

Verse 8, If we are saved and walking with Christ, ever though we may sin, not habitually, Christ purifies us from all sin, even if we don't ask. I'll probably catch flack for that.
However, verse 9, if we are agreeing, saying the same thing about sin that God does, He will forgive us.
Verse 10, Conversely, if we claim to be without sin, we are not saying the same thing God does about sin, and we make Him a liar and the truth, His Word, is not in us.
John 2:1, the reason John is writting so they will not continually make sin a habit pattern.
---Rod4Him on 3/12/10

Correct answer michael!
Many Christians do not grasp the difference between their "standing" with God and their "state" with God. If they have received the new birth, God has created a new creature inside them (II Cor 5:17) that can no longer sin, (referred to as the "new man" Eph 4:22-24, and the "inward man" II Cor 4:16)Our standing with God is sinless perfection thanks to Calvary! Our present state with God is like Paul speaks about in Rom 7:15-20.
---James on 3/12/10

We nust read this at least 2 or 3 scriptures before and after and you can see in 1 hohn 1,10 it speaks of "mistake" sin and I ask for forgiveness from the heart there is no next time, one time and a john 3 the "habitual" sin it is like I am going to do it until I get busted or "I sin today and repent tomorow and do it again next week.
---Felix5733 on 3/11/10

1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1Jo 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin, for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
The key is the verbs.
3:9 'doth not commit', present tense talking about your spiritual side(born of God).
1:10 'hath not sinned', past tense knowing all true born of God admit they have sinned.
1:8 considers your fleshly side to which believers may succumb for which 1:9 is the answer.
---MIchael on 3/11/10

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