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Evidence Of Speaking Tongues

Should everybody receive the infilling of the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking of tongues?

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 ---Alan on 3/12/10
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Should everybody receive the infilling of the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking of tongues?
The evidence is the change in thinking and your life habits, not speaking something no one understands
Mormons speak in tongues is that evidence of the HS?
---michael_e on 5/2/10


Those who say they have the gift of tongues have just as difficult time learning Biblical languages as those not so gifted.

What does this suggest?
---Cluny on 4/24/10

I say this means nothing, because Paul says the "mind is unfruitful" when you speak in tongues. Therefore, it is not a function of your mind, but a function of the Spirit.

Learning foreign languages is a function of your mind.

I program computers for a living and I am versatile in 13 different "languages". Is that the gift of tongues at work in my life?
---Mark_Eaton on 4/28/10


Strongaxe:
U asked:
How could any gentiles qualify for being part of the 144000, when they are explicitly enumerated as 12000 from each of the tribes of Israel, each named in turn?///

Based on the Truth, there is neither Greek nor Jew...we are all Israel, one flock,ONE SHEPHERD (John 10:16), WE ARE ALL SONS, as such we all could qualify for the 144,000 EVEN gentiles. Its a long answer. I don' have much time to post in the next few days.I'll get back with you.

IN THE MEAN TIME:
Are we all not sons of the Father?
Are we not >>> EQUAL <<< heirs WITH Christ?
Don't Gentiles have the SAME seal the Holy Spirit? Many ex-gentiles now reading The Torah.
I WILL elaborate later...
---Paul9594 on 4/28/10


The early Mormons, especially Joseph Smith, spoke in tongues.

Some tongues speakers are Trinitarian.

Others are Sabellian Modalist (aka Oneness).

And we're supposed to believe this is all from the same Holy Spirit?
---Cluny on 4/28/10


Cluny, that someone who has the gift of tongues has as much difficulties to learn Hebrew, greek indicates exactely that the gift is spiritual and that Hebrew and GHreek are natural languages, so the gift comes from the spritit and learning from the mind. both should never be confused.
---Andy3996 on 4/26/10




Yes, indeed that would be a beautiful thing. The wonderful Holy Spirit pouring out of all people, and quickening and consecrating all things round about.
---Eloy on 4/25/10


Rod4Him:

The gift of tongues (or, for that matter, any other spiritual gift) is no guarantee of spiritual maturity. In fact, the opposite is quite possible: just look at how Paul had to admonish the Corinithians about the inappropriate uses of legitimate gifts.
---StrongAxe on 4/24/10


I will say what I've said before about this issue:

Those who say they have the gift of tongues have just as difficult time learning Biblical languages as those not so gifted.

What does this suggest?
---Cluny on 4/24/10


William: I have to disagree with you there. I have heard at least three people speaking in a language I did not understand, but I can still remember a number of words that occurred in all the cases, while the three people did not share and language (one French and Portugese, one Polish and English, one Greek and a little English).

I take this tongue to be some language spoken in Heaven
---peter3594 on 4/24/10


At the time of conversion, we recieve the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The gift of tongues is different than the tongues at pentecost. There are good descriptions of why given here by the bloggers. 1st Corinthians describes the gifts and offices and Paul even states that "not all speak in tongues" and discusses the inferiority of this gift to prophecy. We are to pray for the gift of prophecy which is the mind of Christ. In addition, we need to pray for the leading of the Holy Spirit every day.
---jody on 4/13/10




The Holy Spirit may talk to you first, without speaking in tongues. In time, He may speak in tongues through you to others, or He may pray for you to God using a language you do not understand.
---Betty on 4/13/10


The term,"evidence of tongues",is not in the bible.
---kevin on 4/12/10


Excerpts Acts 2:4-6 ...and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance...And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven...Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

Let me tell you this tongues do not exist anymore. Tongues were an apostolic gift that ended with the Apostles. Furthermore this rambling that goes on in churches and people says its the Holy Spirit, its baloney. The people understood in their own language. It wasnt mutterings of a Phariseeical person saying look at me, im spiritual.
---william on 3/13/10


Should, no. God does what he does when, where and with whom is available to spread his gospel. Miss B and Rod4Him are correct, the foreign language gift of tongues is EVANGELICAL not the self-absorbed EXPERIENCIAL bliss we often hear from some charasmatic signs and wonders movements.
---larry on 3/13/10


No, The upper room wasn't tongues of confuesion. It was languages of other nationalities.Jesus didn't speak tongues He spoke Godly True Words people never herd before a new understanding and way to them. Paul speaks and says Although I have gifts of tongues and have not loved I have nothing. I believe the tongues God speaks of is the different languages. And Jesus came with a whole differnt way of life. To which was so forein to the life that was then. Jesus came with a tongue of comanding forgiveness, and Mercy, Justice and Grace and peace and Love. My view, is the gift of the Holy spirit giving your hart the understanding of the scriptures, to speak the Trueth of Scripture, that is a forein language to all whom don't have the Holy spirit.
---MissB on 3/12/10


If it was essential for Jesus to insist upon His disciples waiting for the Baptism in the Holy Spirit before starting the Great Commission then that is sufficient for me. Why say "Go ... but tarry first?"
Why did the apostles insist upon going to Samaria after Philip had converted these disciples? I believe God wants all to receive but He will not enforce the issue.
---James on 3/12/10


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You know, I always thought that the third Person of the Holy Trinity simply had 4 syllables to His name in English: Holy Spirit. (Or maybe three syllables: Holy Ghost.)

Period.

So it is everywhere He's referred to in the Bible.
---Cluny on 3/12/10


This topic is similar in nature to my question of what is the word of knowledge and prophecy.

My problem with people who speak in tongues ususally say how great and inspirational it is, and the power it gives, but I don't see the results in their lives. Quite freguently, I don't like what I see in their lives. But on the other hand, I have noticed that people who say they have this gift appear more open to things of God. Therein lies my conflict. I don't see the practical need, but many times I fellowship with people who do and don't "have this gift."
---Rod4Him on 3/12/10


I agree Darlene in that Christ sent the Holy Spirit, on Pentecost Day, to empower the saints (apostles & other disciples, male & female: about 120 in all) to speak to the people of Jerusalem in tongues (known world languages) previously unknown to the saints. They heard the saints speaking the Gospel of Jesus Christ to them in their own languages & marveled.

However, unless he explains otherwise, I suspect Alan means something totally different.
---Leon on 3/12/10


I must address the word "should" first. "Should" everybody receive the infilling of HG with evidence of tongues? I would have to say yes. Reason,God wants you to. As I understand it the Gift of the Baptism of the HG isn't needed for salvation. A gift is something we have the ability to either accept with thanks or reject. Christ felt the Gift was important enough he ordered the Apostles to tarry until they received Him-HG. Christ wanted his people to have more power and that is what the HG gives,empowerment to better stand against Satan and more power to serve the Lord. He/HG enriches our lives and we are no longer living only in the present world but also in the Spiritual World of Christ in a stronger Spiritual way.
---Darlene_1 on 3/12/10


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I believe that "whosoever asks, it shall be given."

If you want it, ask for it. If you don't, then don't ask.

I find the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is the most wonderful gift I've received because like Jesus said, "He will comfort you, He will lead you and guide you into all truth. He will tell you of things to come."

Also, the power of praying in tongues and in the Spirit is phenominal. I see God's hand and heart moving when I spend time praying in the Spirit.
---Donna on 3/12/10


Alan: What do you mean, "with evidence of speaking in tongues"?
---Leon on 3/12/10


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