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Is it wrong for one to go into places where sinners are to evangelise them?

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Mark E, you are right in that many don't go to those places you mentioned. I believe the reason is that the Spirit is not moving them. If He was they would have a hunger to go to those places. The Spirit puts that hunger in them by convicting them in the heart. In the places where you do see them, those were moved by the Spirit. What I think is the problem is that not many are really saved period.
My only grandson just finished San Diego State and he wants to go on the streets and live with the homeless, to see how they live and what they go through so he can help them. I am very worried about his idea, but I know if it comes from the Lord, the Lord will take care of him. He has a hunger to help, sacrafice himself for others.
---MarkV. on 4/5/10


I believe that believers are moved or influence by the Spirit to go to many place where others would never think of going.
---MarkV. on 4/4/10

I know and love many full time missionaries. I support them and applaud their efforts. They are not the problem. What is the problem is many are unwilling to go where the Spirit tells them to go. Places like senior citizen centers, nursing homes, single parent homes, homeless shelters, drugs and alcohol rehabilitation centers, inner-city housing, etc.

We love the story of the Good Samaritan, but how many believers even show 1/10 the good will that man had?
---Mark_Eaton on 4/4/10


Mark V... I heartily agree with you. We even have a church in my state that offers people a chance to "win" new cars, Tvs etc. But I doubt many souls are won to the Lord this way.

I had submitted a question about a church which was invited to participate in a community activity, at which some attendees
came drinking beer.
---Donna66 on 4/4/10


Mark E, I have to disagee with you on this one. I believe that believers are moved or influence by the Spirit to go to many place where others would never think of going. The Spirit is guiding them an moving them to areas where the gospel has never been heard. When those who hear the gospel there and come to Christ, they in turn continue the spreading of the gospel in their countries. That is the way it's always been. Many the Spirit guided to area's where they later got killed for the Word of Christ, and later more missionaries go later and the people are converted to Christ where they had never heard of Christ. Not everyone is doing this, only certain few are. I know many go to just have fun and getaway, but I am not talking about those.
---MarkV. on 4/4/10


Mark_Eaton:

Yes, that is definitely true. A lot of people would rather travel halfway around the world to make a single convert rather than one in their own neighborhood. In some ways, it may even be easier to do so.
---StrongAxe on 4/2/10




It's not wrong for a Saint to evangelize in places of sin. YAHUSHUA gathered with sinners of all kinds to witness to them. YAHUSHUA said that it's not the righteous that He is calling, but, rather, the sinners to repentance. Someone who is healthy does not need a Doctor, but, the sick do. The exception would be, that a Saint who has a bent toward the temptation of a certain sin, should not go to a place where that particular sin abounds, lest he fall into temptation and sin. UNLESS he is strong enough spiritually to resist the temptations, AND, if GOD Himself is calling that Saint to witness in such a place. E.g., Christian ex-alcoholic should not witness in a Bar, unless GOD is calling him/her to, and he/she is spiritually strong enough.
---Gordon on 4/2/10


Donna66, you said that your concern was the activities of the Church. I believe that is a concern also. Many times the Churches have parties and games or a show to bring people in and convert them. I believe those are tricks to bring in the lost. I don't think they have any way of converting anyone. The action has to come from God. A person is not going to come to Christ because the church people are good people. Or because they heard a testimony. What they need is the Word of God, the gospel of their salvation. People should witness where God sends them. He knows in which hearts He is working on, and then the Spirit guides you to those people with the Word of God. If you plan something on your own, nothing will happen.
---MarkV. on 4/2/10


No, it isn't. But that isn't the blog question.
---StrongAxe on 4/1/10

My point is that it while it may not be wrong, it sure is unnecessary.

However, what makes it wrong for me is having to "go" anywhere. People are everywhere. Its like going on short-term mission trips. They make no sense to me. Leaving a town full of hurting, dying, needy people and flying halfway around the world to serve more hurting, dying, needy people. Does that make sense? Does passing by the clerks at the grocery, the postman, and the neighbor you only wave at just to go down to the local bar to evangelize? Get real.
---Mark_Eaton on 4/1/10


Mark_Eaton:

No, it isn't. But that isn't the blog question.
---StrongAxe on 4/1/10


With regards to the actual blog topic: The ONLY place to evangelize is where sinners are.
---StrongAxe on 3/30/10

Is it really that difficult to find sinners?

Geesh, the world is filled with them. When I pay for gasoline, wham there is a person. When I buy a cup from Starbucks, wham another person. When I go to the gym, wham, wham, wham, lots of people.

Take time to evangelize everyone you meet, greet them with kindness, be patient, give them preference, show them love and you will not need to look for anyone else.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/31/10




With regards to the actual blog topic: The ONLY place to evangelize is where sinners are. If you go to places where sinners aren't found, then you're just preaching to the choir. Not that there isn't a need for that kind of ministry, but it is preaching and exhortation, NOT evangelism.

And Eloy is correct: If God tells you to go somewhere, even if it seems unpleasant, then you should go there. After all, doesn't he know better what to do than we do? Jesus ate with prostitutes and thieves. God told Hosea to marry a prostitute. Most of the Bible prophets were sent to prophesy judgment to sinners (after all, what need did saints have of correction and instruction?)
---StrongAxe on 3/30/10


George, If the Lord leads you into a dark place to evangelize, then you should obey him.
---Eloy on 3/30/10


Eloy:

Let's examine all the verses you quoted:

The words "blasphemy" "blaspheme" "blasphemer" etc. do not occur in John 18 nor 14 nor John 8, nor Matthew 12:34 It DOES occur in Matthew 12:31, but it is a generic statement of what kinds of blasphemy will and will not be forgiven - it is NOT specifically accusing anyone of blasphemy as such.

So, since none of your verse show Jesus specifically accusing anyone of blasphemy, how does this "prove" any falsehood on my part?
---StrongAxe on 3/29/10


Strongax, I have already cited chapter and verse proving you speak falsehood, please Re-read my scriptures below.
---Eloy on 3/29/10


MarkV.:

That is a very insightful descripton of the differences between blasphemy against the Son and blasphemy against the Spirit.
---StrongAxe on 3/29/10


I agree with some. You go wherever the Person of the Holy Spirit leads or tells you to go....Just be sure, because you need His help, and God is not obligated to finish something that He did not start.
---catherine on 3/29/10


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MarkV - I agree 100% when you are talking about individuals. The one concern I had was in regard to a disagreement in the church about taking part in a community activity.
---Donna66 on 3/29/10


Someone never exposed to Christ's divine power and presence might reject Him in ignorance and be forgiven-assuming the unbelief gives way to genuine repentance. Even a Pharisee such as Saul of Tarsus could be forgiven for speaking against the Son of Man, or persecuting His followers because his unbelief stemmed from ignorance (1 Tim.1:13), but those who know His claims are true and reject Him anyway sin "against the Holy Spirit" because the Holy Spirit testifies of Christ and makes His truth known to us (John 15:26). The Pharisees receive no forgiveness since they knew the truth, saw the miracles and still rejected the fullest possible revelation Heb. 6:4-6 10:29.
---MarkV. on 3/29/10


Pastor George: this is an unusual question since that is the very thing that Jesus did. Of course we can enter places where sinners exist and speak the word of God through the power of the Holy Spirit. In the flesh, however, we can do no good by going around sin. One needs to be cautious so as not to fall into temptation or to cause a brother to stumble.
---jody on 3/29/10


Donna66, I don't take anyone's advice as to where to witness. I leave it to God. His working all the time in people's hearts, and when God is ready, He will direct you to them, so you can be there to bring the Gospel and that person will believe and come to know the Truth. Because you have planted the seed of faith through the gospel. God takes over and does the rest. It is by the direct influence of the Holy Spirit that we move to where these people are.
If we plan what we want to do, to a perticular person, and go and do it on our own, nothing will happen. Because the effort comes from us and not from God. Many devices or planted to bring people to Christ, but the good intentions are not going to work if not directed by the Spirit.
---MarkV. on 3/29/10


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Eloy:

Instead of calling me a liar, please prove me a liar by finding one single verse in which the Bible actually mentions "blasphemy against truth". I would be happy to correct my opinion if I am shown to be in error (but in this case, you can't, because there is no such verse).

You can't just say "Jesus is the Truth" and "Blasphemy against Jesus" is the same as "Blasphemy against truth".

The word "be" in English is not a mathematical equals sign. "Jesus is the Truth" does not mean "Truth is Jesus", any more than "God is Love" means "Love is God" (unless maybe one is a pagan who worships Eros and Aphrodite).
---StrongAxe on 3/28/10


Where can I find a place ABSENT of sinners?
---Donna66 on 3/28/10


Strongax, again I correct. You speak falsehood, because there is no light in you.
---Eloy on 3/28/10


Jesus says: "Every one that is of the truth hears my voice." Pilate says to him, What is truth? Jesus says: "I am The Truth, no human comes to the Father except by me." John 18:37,38+ 14:6.
---Eloy on 3/28/10


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Eloy:

In the Bible, blasphemy is almost always against a person (God, God's name, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, Moses, the king, those who dwell in heaven), and occasionally a place (the mountains of Israel, God's tabernacle). Nowhere does it mention "blaspheming the truth".
---StrongAxe on 3/27/10


If you don't go around them befriend and socialize with them how can you win them? Jesus socilized with many thought to be scum in His day.Most turned into disciples and many died for Him in the future.
---shirley on 3/27/10


strongax, I preach the truth, and whosoever blasphemes the truth is blaphemer: for there are the cursed, the sinuous, the unregenerate, the worldly, the damned, the unholy, the proud, the fallen, the crooked, the separated, the carnal, the goats, the sons of darkness, the children of the devil, the brood of vipers, hypocrites, the liar, the unjust, the corrupt, the blemished, the sinner, wicked and slothful servant, the figless tree, the disobedient, the dissing, misjudger and faultfinder, the hardhearted and stiffnecked, the antiChrist, the evil tree, friend of the world and the enemy of God, the hated, God's fury and vengeance abides on them, marked with 666, the whited tomb, the dead, the burning tare, for hell's eternal torment in fire.
---Eloy on 3/27/10


Does this make any difference? I saw this as a good chance for silent witness. But perhaps it's best for the church to stay out of all secular activities in general?
---Donna66 on 3/25/10

Yes, it does.

Based upon what you have last posted, I would agree that this is an acceptable place to witness. Wherever children can be is acceptable for most people and people usually do not view as "dens of sin".

My original statement was made to those who think going to a bar and witnessing is a good thing to do.

Our witness is very important. It is not just what people think about us, but what they think about Christ. Also, our witness is important to less mature believers.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/27/10


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Mattew 12:27: "And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges."
With judges and jury selected (judges and jury being one and the same), Jesus did not need to judge them as blasphemers, however
He did mention it so, it will come out in the trial for sure, if not resolved in their conscience before trial.
---Nana on 3/27/10


Eloy:

Please read exactly what you just wrote. The word "blasphemy", "blasphemer", etc. DO NOT OCCUR in the passage you just quoted. Jesus called the Pharisees "offsprings of vipers", but he did not call them blasphemers. Jesus goes on to describe blasphemy, but is NOT directly accusing them of it here.
---Strongaxe on 3/27/10


Not only did Jesus rightly call these blaspheming Jews blasphemers, but he also called them the offspring of the devil, and liars: "O offspring of vipers, how can you all, being evil, speak good things? You all are from the father who's devil, and the desires of your father you all will do. I know Father of me: and if I would say, I know him not, I would be a liar like to you." Matthew 12:34+ John 8:44.
---Eloy on 3/27/10


Eloy:

Yes, that is right. Jesus described what kinds of people are blasphemers. YET if you read this passage very carefully, he DID NOT directly call the Pharisees blasphemers. That was left as a conclusion to be reached by others.
---StrongAxe on 3/26/10


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Strongax, look it up: "Then Jesus healed him possessed with a blind and mute devil, so that the blind and mute both spoke and saw. But the pharisees said, he does not cast out devils, except by beelzebub the prince of devils. Then Jesus said, I say to you, All manner of sin and desecrating words will be forgiven to persons: but blaspheming the Holy Ghost will not be forgiven to persons. And whosoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him: but whosoever speaks against the Holy Ghost, it will not be forgiven that one, neither in this world, neither in that to come. I have not a devil: but I honor Father of me, and you all do dishonor me." Matthew 12:20-22,24,31,32+ John 8:49.
---Eloy on 3/26/10


Mark Eaton -- Thanks for replying. I'm not sure exactly what you meant. I think you meant the church should not participate.

But this certainly not a bar. It is an outdoor community affair with carnival rides, face painting and games for kids, cooking demonstations, craftbooths and other churches selling popcorn etc. It raises funds for the town. (I don't think beer is sold, but people do bring their own!)

Does this make any difference? I saw this as a good chance for silent witness. But perhaps it's best for the church to stay out of all secular activities in general?
---Donna66 on 3/25/10


I am NOT in favor of doing such things.

Donna66 asked and I will answer.

Several times it is said in the Epistles to "not even have this sin named among you" or to "not be associated with ones who do".

Our witness is not only with words. Personally, I think the silent witness speaks the loudest. When the sinners closest to you at home see you helping out your single parent neighbor, it speaks louder for Christ than them seeing you at the local pub. What you do speaks louder than what you say.

Keep that in mind.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/25/10


It is NOT wrong to go into sinful places to evangelize. Jesus always was where the sinners (tax collectors, prostitutes, etc.) were. He would be with the sinners if He were here today. However, a word of causion, make sure it is the Holy Spirit directing you to go to certain places, so you will not be caught in the same sin. Example, if you were once an alcoholic, you might not want to go evangelize in a bar, unless directed by the Holy Spirit to do so. Otherwise you might become an alcoholic again, or have others think that you are. We are to repesent Jesus, and not even be in the appearance of evil, so as to give Him a bad name. We are to be in the world, NOT of it (like it - doing what the world does).
---Leslie on 3/25/10


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Strongaxe, my points exactly. As you can see Kathr agrees with his answers. Funny that some people who fight against the truth stick together to give each other a pad in the back. No matter how wrong they are.
---mary on 3/25/10

silly silly mary again sticking her foot in her mouth before knowing all the facts OR who and what I was talking about. Maybe you should just leave it there. You remind me of Psalms 10, just waiting to pounce...but this time mary you really missed the mark...again showing yourself as a trouble maker!
---kathr4453 on 3/25/10


\\Cluny, Jesus speaks to both saints and sinners, the difference is we saints obey his commandments and sinners do not.
---Eloy on 3/24/10\\

Who's "we", Kemo Sabe?
---Cluny on 3/25/10


Eloy:

You said: Jesus also called people whom blaspheme, blasphemers

Please show any verse (even a single one) where Jesus called any specific people blasphemers. While he spoke about blasphemy on several occasions, he never directly accused anyone of it.

You said:neither will I break a bruised reed

This is from a verse from Isaiah 42:3 (also quoted in Matthew 12:20) that refers specifically to the Messiah. You appropriate it to yourself. Are you claiming to be Christ?
---StrongAxe on 3/25/10


Strongaxe, you just described almost every " pastor" I ever met.
---Rod4Him on 3/25/10


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StrongAxe, my reply was to Cluny. You see, when one confesses their sins to an earthly priest called FATHER, and that earthly person says he has the power to forgive sin, then that person certainly cannot hear anything from our Heavenly Father, because that person doesn't have a personal relationship with our Heavenly FAther who ALONE forgives sin.

Jesus bridged the way for us to have a POersonal relationship with God, to fellowship with HIM, and to go boldly to the throne of GRACE for all things including forgivness and confession.
---kathr4453 on 3/25/10


Strongaxe, my points exactly. As you can see Kathr agrees with his answers. Funny that some people who fight against the truth stick together to give each other a pad in the back. No matter how wrong they are.
---mary on 3/25/10


kathr4453:

There is a great difference between a person receiving revelations from God, and a person receiving EXCLUSIVE revelations from God. A very common trait among many cult leaders is that they believe that God speaks to them, and ONLY to them - and that anyone who disagrees with them is disagreeing with God himself. They thus place themselves above reproach and above accountability, because the moment anyone attempts to correct them or hold them accountable, that person is accused of blasphemy against God.
---StrongAxe on 3/24/10


Strongax, Jesus also called people whom blaspheme, blasphemers: those whom blaspheme are blasphemers, and those whom honor are honorers: not all people honor and not all people blaspheme: I judge righteous judgment as I am commanded, and I will not honor any evil person nor aquit the guilty, neither will I break a bruised reed.
---Eloy on 3/25/10


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Its wrong if you are not lead by the Holy Spirit. Discernment covers a multitude of sins and Wisdom is when and where you need to do what you already know.

Discernment, don't leave home without it.
---larry on 3/24/10


Eloy:

You were SO right when you said: Christ did not purposely look for trouble nor did he hammer his word down on the peoples heads, but instead he repected people when he shared his gospel.

You, on the other hand, are constantly calling people blasphemers, and unsaved, and apostates. As far as I can recall, Jesus never spoke harshly to anyone, except Pharisees, temple moneychangers, and demons (and, on one occasion Peter, and on another occasion a fig tree). We would all be wise to follow his example (you, and I, and everyone else on these blogs).
---StrongAxe on 3/24/10


Furthermore, you don't actually think that you receive words from God, do you?

Are you that deluded, Eloy?
---Cluny on 3/23/10


That's an interesting comment. Certainly Religious people scoff at the idea th God our Father actually talkes to His Children. But that's the difference between religion, and Christianity. Christianity is a personal relationship with our Father through Jesus Christ as the Holy Spirit teaches us all things, comforts us with the ove of the Father, and enlightens the Word. Do you know when my favorite time of day is...4am. It's when teh Lord wakes me up and we talk and talk and talk!!!!
---kathr4453 on 3/24/10


Cluny, Jesus speaks to both saints and sinners, the difference is we saints obey his commandments and sinners do not.
---Eloy on 3/24/10


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Eloy, your condemnations mean nothing to me or to anyone. Because they come from someone who is an imposter. Rebirth/regeneration comes only by the will of God not the free will of man. If you understood that you would know the Truth.
"For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will"
The new life given to believers comes by the will God not the will of man. And when a person is born again, automaticly, Jesus said "I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come under judgment." You said you were born again twice, how could you if you had everlasting life the first time?
---MarkV. on 3/24/10


How then do Believers in Jesus Christ evangelise? (Mk. 16:15-18) Contrary to what some think, it's not Christ-like to Bible bash (try to convince anyone of anything). Rather, we're to persuade (woo, become fishers of) lost humanity by the light of God they see in us. (Mat. 5:16) As the Lord makes the way/opportunity (opens doors) we must follow His lead to wherever He takes us & trust He will order our steps, & word our mouths to say what needs to be said in a spirit of meekness & humility. Effective evangelist don't beat the water to catch fish. They patiently shine their light into the sea of lost humanity & wait for fish to bite.
Great question -- thx! :)
---Leon on 3/21/10

Wonderful answer !!!!!!!
---miche3754 on 3/24/10


\\MarkV, You are not able to recieve any word from God by me as long as you are busy dissing me.\\

Eloy, is it not possible that God speaks to other people besides you?

Furthermore, you don't actually think that you receive words from God, do you?

Are you that deluded, Eloy?
---Cluny on 3/23/10


MarkV, You are not able to recieve any word from God by me as long as you are busy dissing me. And until you become a part of salvation, you will not be blessed by any word from salvation. Jesus never "forced" any one to accept him nor accept his words, else there would be no free will nor freedom of choice to serve him. That is why we are just in our righteous judgment of the wicked, for when the wicked freely chooses to sin then they receive their just deserts and are self-condemned by their own choosing: and likewise when a soul freely chooses to obey Christ, then they likewise are rewarded justly for choosing the right over the wrong.
---Eloy on 3/22/10


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Is it wrong for one to go into places where sinners are to evangelise them?

There are lots of places where sinners go. One of them is Church. But if you are asking if it is alright to go into a bar and witness--I have done it. Most times I have been quietly asked to leave by the management. Sometimes I have had things thrown at me, and the pamphlets I was using were torn into pieces, and thrown in my face.
---FatherBrendan on 3/22/10


Yes, it is wrong to bash anyone, as Leon said. Hmmm...
---ger.toshav on 3/21/10


Its almost a trick question, but i believe the truth of it is, U should know thyself.
the scripture says
"Bring such people back with a spirit of meekness, lest u also be tempted"
u dont want 2 be the guy drinking shots at the bar and blabbering about santification.
Each person outside of jesus, has a weakness, and it should b respected as such,
by being aware of your personal limits.
If u are willing and able, u should go into tough places, but always be aware of your mission.
---TruBeliever on 3/21/10


Pastor George: The whole world is a sin full place. How then do Believers in Jesus Christ evangelise? (Mk. 16:15-18) Contrary to what some think, it's not Christ-like to Bible bash (try to convince anyone of anything). Rather, we're to persuade (woo, become fishers of) lost humanity by the light of God they see in us. (Mat. 5:16) As the Lord makes the way/opportunity (opens doors) we must follow His lead to wherever He takes us & trust He will order our steps, & word our mouths to say what needs to be said in a spirit of meekness & humility. Effective evangelist don't beat the water to catch fish. They patiently shine their light into the sea of lost humanity & wait for fish to bite.

Great question -- thx! :)
---Leon on 3/21/10


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Eloy, your example of Jesus is like comparing apples with oranges when you said,
"Christ did not purposely look for trouble nor did he hammer his word down on the peoples heads, but instead he repected people when he shared his gospel."
Jesus was God, He was what the gospel is about. If He wanted to turn someone to Himself He could do it without a hammer. He turned many while on earth. We, on the other hand cannot save anyone. We are not God who can turn a heart at will. We just give the gospel and God turns them to Himself.
He talked to drunks, prostitues thief's etc. There was no place He could not go, or anyone He could not change in an instinct.
---MarkV. on 3/21/10


I Attended a church that had participated for years in a local festival celebrating a product we are known for. They had a wonderful recipe that they cooked up for attendees. And people really looked forward to their contribution.

But when I was there, they decided that there was too much drinking at this community affair...they no longer wished to participate. I guess they thought their presence would signal approval of drinking.

I was in the minority, but I thought it sad. It was an ideal opportunity to "let their light shine" among other participants.
Let others see that they could enjoy the celebration WITHOUT drinking. (After all, nobody would QUIT drinking just because the church was absent!).
What say you?
---Donna66 on 3/21/10


Who needs a savior, but a sinner? Does your ministry announce that it goes into bars to spread the Gospel? To do that would be to put a quick damper on your evangelistic efforts.

Befriend an alcoholic, or spouse of an alcoholic. Show kindness to a child in a bad home situation. Talk to the beggar on the sidewalk, the prostitue behind you in line at the grocery store. Befriend an unbelieving co-worker. You never need to ram God's Word down their throats...or they will run when they see you coming.

Share snippets of Gospel wisdom to meet the need for solutions the troubled are seeking. Provide your testimony of God's Grace toward you in similar circumstance. Live a life worthy of being desired by others through your actions.
---Elaine on 3/20/10


Christ did not purposely look for trouble nor did he hammer his word down on the peoples heads, but instead he repected people when he shared his gospel. Just as it would be wrong for a drinker or a prostitute to enter into a holy church to propagate their sins, so too it would be wrong for a person to go into a bar or into a house of irrrepute and arrogantly grand stand with the Holy Bible. Evangelism without the Spirit is sin.
---Eloy on 3/20/10


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Tom 2, many who claim to be genuine Christians or followers of Christ or not followers of Christ in their hearts. They either received the wrong gospel or never received it at all. They study and socialite together with those who have, and they are many of them. The evidence we see is very bad, but within us, we cannot know for sure if they are saved or not. We can only assume they are and maybe we are just wrong.
That might be why so many live like the world. All you have to do is listen to how they answer others. Does a child of God bring down another brother or sister? Cut him down to show they are right and he is wrong? Call him a liar and false teacher? Some women here do just that. There is much evil in their hearts.
---MarkV. on 3/19/10


\\because no matter where you go there they are.
---tom2 on 3/17/10\\

I'll go one step further.

No matter where you go, there YOU are, because we are all sinners.
---Cluny on 3/19/10


markv,my only point was you need not look for any special place to witness.Best place to start is in your home.All my brothers and sisters are well aware what I believe,and mom.you mentioned several very good ministries,prisons for many are a great way for the spirit to finally reach the lost,and you are correct,many have been forgiven.Let me say though that many ,many dont live as though they are,one of my favorite verses john 14-21,but being in the flesh its a daily chore,but I guess thats what jesus meant,he who would follow me,let him take up his cross daily.
---tom2 on 3/19/10


Tom 2, that was a very true answer you gave concerning where to go. Yes, the lost are all around us. Those for whom their sin's have not been forgiven. Those who do not love Christ. They are even in the Church of God. Prisons are loaded with them. Bar's are another place. Yet no matter where you go they are all around those for whom their sins have been atone for already.
Everyone is a sinner and falls short of the glory of God, but some have been forgiven others have not.
---MarkV. on 3/18/10


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maybe I wasn,t explicit enough,no matter where you go,even in every church in the world,you are still among sinners,so your question is mute,meaning it has no meaning,no relevance,because no matter where you go there they are.
---tom2 on 3/17/10


mima, do you mean to say that you think playing poker is a sinful activity?
---Cluny on 3/17/10


I think it's great! My only advice to anyone, say, going into a bar to minister would be this: make sure you're not an alcoholic (including one in recovery) yourself. If you are not strong enough to keep from the sin, pray for them but do not go in. Same goes with gambling addictions or anything else. But if you can, God bless you :)
---Mary on 3/17/10


Walk down the streets of any city and you are going into places where sinners are. William Booth who founded the Salvation Army used to go into the bars and gutters and drag the drunks out.
---KarenD on 3/17/10


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We are all Sinners,because to say we are not Sinners we call God a Liar and the truth is not in us
Gabby7687
---Gabby on 3/16/10

Gabby, I don't know about you, but we are REPENTENT sinners...that's the difference between us and sinners who won't confess their sins and turn from them.

1John 1:9 says If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness - try getting someone to admit they've sinned or to confess it. I've got an entire family who sits on their self-righteous thrones pointing out everyone else's sins and never admitting nor confessing their own.
---Donna on 3/17/10


I used to play poker and I have on occasion heard some wonderful testimonies at poker tables. Usually from the older players. I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that many of these poker players were saved.
---mima on 3/17/10


jesus did,sin goes on everywhere though,atleast everywhere people are.
---tom2 on 3/17/10


Matthew 22:10: "So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests."
The call is for all men, irregardless of how whole or empty.
---Nana on 3/16/10


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Didn't Jesus come for the Sinners??

We are all Sinners,because to say we are not Sinners we call God a Liar and the truth is not in us
Gabby7687
---Gabby on 3/16/10


What a great question, we can't get people to go into sinless places to evangelize so how are we going to get them to go into sinful places?

The answer of course is no is not wrong to go into sinful places to evangelize. Also what is a sinful place since all places have sinners?
---mima on 3/16/10


Is there any place where we do NOT find sinners?

Do you think there are none in YOUR church, Pastor_George?

Whether it's appropriate to go to a gentlemen's club and demand a quick decision for Jesus RIGHT NOW is debatable.

There's no point in making yourself a pest in His Name.
---Cluny on 3/16/10


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