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Walmart Selling Coffins

Walmart is now selling coffins to consumers. Would you purchase a discount coffin to bury your loved one?

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1st Cliff -- No one here needs to be homeless or destitute. Some, like the lady Obewan mentioned, need help in accessing the system. (Social Security often refuses people disability on the first try, don't ask me why). The red tape can be daunting! Those familiar with the system manage to get all manner of extras.

Many of the homeless here are drug abusers, runaways or, just as common, the mentally ill who are not taking the therapeudic drugs available to them. They are quite likely to rebuff offers of help because they fear the police... or they fear some imagined enemies.
---Donna66 on 4/5/10


Obewan, My heart goes out to people that you mention,
With our health care and welfafe system here,no one actually needs be homeless and destitute. Those that are, are abusers of the system. (---1st_cliff on 4/5/10

The woman I know was learning diabled. She could no longer stand and was unqualified for a desk job. The social security people refused her disability even though she worked and paid into the system for over 20 years. She was a Christian, not on drugs, and had no family to take care of her. We knew her for years before her disability. Be careful how you judge others without knowing firsthand.
---obewan on 4/5/10


Obewan, My heart goes out to people that you mention,
With our health care and welfafe system here,no one actually needs be homeless and destitute. Those that are, are abusers of the system. (spending the rent money on substance abuse) Our polititions think food stamps are degrading!
Many couples with children split up so she can get welfare,and he slips back on the sly and lives off her! Welfare cheques are mailed or directly deposited in their account!
---1st_cliff on 4/5/10


We can all cite examples of people whose health problems have made them to be poor (health insurance may or may not have made a difference-- health care may or may not have made a difference.) As for actual causes, the majority of poverty is due to joblessness not poor health.
---Donna66 on 4/5/10


Obewan, Poverty caused by lack of medical care??
---1st_cliff on 4/4/10

I was speaking towards the working poor in the USA. People who have to support themselves on $1000 a month take home min wage jobs with $1500 in expenses and no medical care. Why is the average credit card debt in the US something like $10K?

I know one woman who worked two 40 hr min wage jobs for 20 years just to barely get by and with no medical insurance - until she got a leg disease with no medical care and wound up disabled and homeless!
---obewan on 4/5/10




Obewan, Poverty caused by lack of medical care??
I don't live in the U.S. ,but I thought that Pres. Obama just rectified the "health care" for the poor in America! NO?
We have poor(and homeless) too, school drop-outs,2nd and 3rd generation welfare,alcoholics,gambelers, druggies,lazies (the world owes me a living)
mentally and physically chalenged!Even tho we have universal medicare!
---1st_cliff on 4/4/10


1st Cliff --- true. By world standards even our poor could be called "rich".
---Donna66 on 4/3/10

It depends on whose standard you use. The World Association for Economic Cooperation and Development places the USA THIRD HIGHEST in percent of people living in poverty out of 28 "industrialized nations" (behind only Turkey and Mexico). Poverty is defined as lack of food, shelter, clothing, and medical care. The 5,000 homeless in downtown Jacksonville would beg to differ and much of poverty in the US is caused by lack of medical care.
---obewan on 4/4/10


Donna66, Rich is relative!
We live in a beautiful home in the suburbs,two vehicles in the garage,all the appliences to make it comfortable and decent clothes,yet we are not considered "rich" the Rich live in mansions up on the hill,with summer homes and yahts!
Yet to 3rd world people who live in shanty town in hovels made from coca-cola signs, we are very rich! We call it "blessed"!

I've been rich and I've been poor...rich is better!
---1st_cliff on 4/4/10


1st Cliff --- true. By world standards even our poor could be called "rich".
---Donna66 on 4/3/10


It all depends on your definition of "rich"!
---1st_cliff on 4/3/10




1st Cliff -- "making a living" is NOT the same as "getting rich".

Donna8679--A common assumption these days is that if a product seems expensive, the sellor or munufacturor must be getting "rich" ( "rich" is a very unpopular thing in this socialized society!)

If you do not know what it costs to make coffins (or anything else) how can you assume the maker is "rich? He may be barely breaking even!
---Donna66 on 4/3/10


2 Donnas, It's amazing how many people make a living from the missfortues of others.
Doctors,Lawyers,firemen,police,nurses,tow truck drivers, search and rescue,plumbers,ambulence drivers,jail gaurds,hearing aids,optometrists,grave diggers etc..just to name a few! But they "ARE" necessary! just like funeral directors!
---1st_cliff on 4/2/10


Donna8679 --
I don't think there should be a charge of any type when you die. People get rich off of the misery of others.

Do you think the people who manufacture coffins should give them away free? If you made your living working for a coffin manufacturor, I bet you wouldn't feel this way. (not all people get rich off the misery of others)
---Donna66 on 4/1/10


Personally I don't think there should be a charge of any type when you die. People get rich off of the misery of others. Of course you would want to get the best you can afford in the depths of your new grief..... But that is just my opinion.
---donna8679 on 3/30/10


I don't see why not, they are all lost anyways! This should be the least of the loved ones worries, too.
---catherine on 3/29/10


!st Cliff: That was cute:). In response to the blog, I would have to say that if I had the extra money for a coffin which I am able to store, then YES, I would. Can always use it for storage:).
---jody on 3/28/10


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Personally I think the whole thing is a little slanted,
Remember It's not the cough that carries you off but the coffin they carry you off in!

This cigarette mfg. salesman met an old fella 95yrs old who still smoked,
He said "I'd like to put you in a TV add,
could I send our helicopter around to pick you up in the morning?"
"Not before noon " the old lad said,
"Why is that?" agent asked.
"Well I don't stop coughing 'till then"
---1st_cliff on 3/28/10


"What normally would be vertical integration [selling cigarettes that kill you and coffins to bury you] in this case becomes horizontal integration"
Friendly_Blogger
Ugh.... could this be considered Vertically Challeged?
---Elder on 3/26/10


What normally would be vertical integration [selling cigarettes that kill you and coffins to bury you] in this case becomes horizontal integration
---Friendly_Blogger on 3/25/10


Wal Mart has been selling cigarettes that have put many people to coffin........
---Elder on 3/24/10


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LOLOLOLOL!!! I love your comment NurseRobert! :D
---Mary on 3/24/10


Some people have their ashes scattered in a favorite location. In this care no urn is needed.
---Donna66 on 3/23/10

My wife said she was going to spread my ashes at the mall so she could come and visit me everyday..
---NurseRobert on 3/23/10


kathr4453-- I've never heard of such a law. In Colorado, you don't need a coffin, you don't even need an urn. The mortuary gave me my mothers ashes in a cardboard box. Some people have their ashes scattered in a favorite location. In this care no urn is needed.
I would think the law about needing a coffin would eventually be repealed because it so obviously must have been promoted by the funeral industry.
---Donna66 on 3/23/10


I heard even if cremated you still have to buy a coffin. Maybe this is a state law with only some states.

Why would someone consider a Coffin sold at a discounted price offensive. ALL the Profits go somewhere. If they sold them at cost, God Bless them for not making a PROFIT off families who have lost a loved one.

Buying at a discount doesn't mean buying bad merchandise.
---kathr4453 on 3/23/10


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They way we bury our dead is a cheap and respectfulness since in bible days their dead were put in tombs of stone a mountain where they kept the bones sacred in a burial ground.

So to do yourself cheap in terms of not caring where or how your buried is disrespectful to yourself, I don't normally make a do about funerals and used to say it makes no difference but that was because I could not afford a good burial at that time.

Take care not to disrespect yourselves in terms of death something we all deserve better or Jesus would have been put in the ground, with no preparation and all!
---Carla on 3/23/10


How would you feel about a loved one buried in an unkempt cemetery?
---Cluny on 3/21/10

I don't care for cemeteries. Its a waste of land and money. Personally, I'm a big believer in cremation. It's much cheaper and easier.

Cemeteries, with their embalmed bodies, are nothing more than toxic waste dumps.

For those of you who want a cemetery, Google Centre for natural burial.
---NurseRobert on 3/22/10


Cluny:

Our loved ones aren't actually there anymore. They won't need their bodies anymore. The only reason we keep our cemetaries and monuments etc. neat are for our own benefit, not for theirs. And how long will that last anyway? A decade? a century? Mortuaries go out of business. Cities are abandoned or overbuilt. In the long term, they will all turn to dust and becovered with grass anyway, so going out of our way to "polish the rust" on things that are constantly decaying is ultimately just vanity.

(This is not to say that it's necessarily bad - after all, when we shower and dress nicely, that's a bit of vanity too. But we need to realize that's what it is, and not waste TOO much effort on it.)
---StrongAxe on 3/22/10


\\Indeed, I have, but there is a difference between my front yard not being mowed and a wide expanse of a field...

keep it clean, but keep it natural.\\

I don't know if you've suffered deaths in your family, but both of my parents are deceased.

How would you feel about a loved one buried in an unkempt cemetery?
---Cluny on 3/21/10


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obewan ... A lot of people feel as you do. But some need to see the dead body as a means of helping them accept the death.
This is not necessarily "morbid". My parents were both creamated per their request. It may seem strange, but we had a "viewing" first.

The death of a loved one seems so unreal...you still expect them to walk in the door. You may, without thinking, order the take-out they liked... start to call them on the phone, set out to buy them a birthday card. I'm that way. It helps me remind myself (though I know it intellectually) that they really, really are gone.
---Donna66 on 3/21/10


Have you ever seen an unmown yard?
---Cluny on 3/21/10

Indeed, I have, but there is a difference between my front yard not being mowed and a wide expanse of a field...

keep it clean, but keep it natural..
---NurseRobertt on 3/21/10


\\Who is going to pay for someone to cut the grass at the cemetery?
---Cluny on 3/20/10

Why does it have to be cut?
---NurseRobert on 3/20/10\\

Have you ever seen an unmown yard?
---Cluny on 3/21/10


larry -- Does CostCo sell liquor? That might be a good location for caskets. Perhaps in the fresh meat dept. along with the ground beef, steaks, and other red meat.
My choice would be, Buy a motorcycle and get a coffin at half price.!

I'd think they might sell DIY kits to contruct a coffin. That would save money and also sell glue and nails and sandpaper.

I really did have a friend a few years ago that made his own. He died of non-hodgkins lymphoma...but not before he had made a beautiful hand carved hard wood coffin. He did it to save his family money but it made a lovely memorial at his funeral.
---Donna66 on 3/21/10


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Donna66, your readings are refreshing.

Costco has been selling caskets for years, but you usually have to go on line as they will not display them in the store and possibly offend a customer.

Do you put the caskets next to the generators, band-aids, fried food or dinner plates?
---larry on 3/20/10


Why not? What's the point of spending $10K on a funeral? My mom does not even want us to buy her a casket. She wants to be cremated to save money. Plus, she thinks putting our dead in caskets to view creepy and morbid. She prefers to just remember them as they were - alive - with the use of photos and memorabilia. That is what we did for my dad and I did not suffer any damage from not seeing his dead body in an open casket. I know he is alive in heaven now. That is the best part of the whole ordeal.
---obewan on 3/20/10


Who is going to pay for someone to cut the grass at the cemetery?
---Cluny on 3/20/10

Why does it have to be cut?
---NurseRobert on 3/20/10


Marine grade plywood, gorilla glue, and gloss spray paint.
Romans 6, 7:1-6, 2Corinthians 5:1-11, Philippians 1:23.
---Glenn on 3/20/10


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Cluny...All volunteer cemetery. In small towns all over this country, volunteers keep the cemeteries mowed. But, I've never heard of one that is free to bury.
---KarenD on 3/20/10


This question gives me some relief because I have always felt that if my wife could not find a coffin at a garage sale I might have to wait to get buried.

My father was once in Nome Alaska, and was shown the bodies that were kept in storage until the ground could be dug in the summertime for them to be buried.

My mother remembered as a little girl seeing a man ride home setting on his coffin in a wagon. And the kids ask them why he was doing this he said I am going to die and I want to be ready. Sure enough he died two years later. And that's a few coffin stories.
---mima on 3/20/10


\\I know it would be hard to find a mortician who would do the legal preparations of dead people for free, but why couldn't the actual grave be free?\\

No state requires embalming.

Who is going to pay for someone to cut the grass at the cemetery?
---Cluny on 3/20/10


Well, the funeral, coffin, burial etc. are all for the benefit of the bereaved. (not the dead)
If you feel buying the "best" represents your last gesture of care for the deceased, OK. If you feel that you have done your best for them when alive, and you consider these trapping mainly utilitarian, then get the best price you can.

I was surprised to hear there was any place where the dead could be buried with only a shroud. I thought this was illegal everywhere. Guess not!
---Donna66 on 3/20/10


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Who said they're for *burying* people?

You can fill *them* with dirt and grow flowers (c:
---Bill_bila5659 on 3/20/10


After reading this question, I wondered if it is possible to create a ministry that would buy land for a free cemetery with free burials. I know it would be hard to find a mortician who would do the legal preparations of dead people for free, but why couldn't the actual grave be free?
---KarenD on 3/20/10


Why not? When I buy a candy bar, after I'm done, I toss away the wrapper. I don't think it's important to buy expensive garbage bag to throw the wrapper away in. When I die, the most important part of me is not going to be here. The outer shell (that's going to rot and decay anyway) isn't going to be anything I will ever want anyway, and nobody else is going to look at it ever again.

And if God needs a well-preserved corpse in an expensive box to do a proper resurrection, than he isn't the all-powerful God we all know and love.
---StrongAxe on 3/20/10


Why not. You can buy them online too. there is a cemetery here in upstate NY where you can dig the grave for your loved one yourself, bury them in just a shroud and embalming isn't allowed.

Why spend thousands for a box to put in the ground?
---NurseRobert on 3/19/10


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To me it depends on the financial situations.
The person that will be in wont know the diff anyway.
---Lawrence on 3/19/10


You can skip the casket and have someone immediately cremated for $595.00 here!

It's not the cough that carries you off,
it's the coffin they carry you off in!
---1st_cliff on 3/19/10


Good idea might get some bargain coffins lol
---Carla on 3/19/10


Still to expensive, they can render me down on the old 30 gallon cast iron three legged pot in the back yard, Run those remains through the Cuisinart Food processor the package me in a large Tupperware container that way they can burp me one last time and hide me in the Walmart near the deli counter until my special order styrofoam tombstone comes back from Rock of Temporary then they can plant me in the parking lot in one of the grass bumper areas near the return cart area while three register clerks take an outside smoke break.
---Friendly_Blogger on 3/19/10


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You bet! My loved ones all appreciate a bargain! And most shop at Walmart from time to time. I wouldn't buy something that "looked" very cheap or wasn't the right size. If someone buys a Wal-mart coffin for me, I have no objection at all.

I'm glad that Wal-mart is providing some competition for mortuaries, who all to often, sell over priced goods to vulnerable grieving clients.
---Donna66 on 3/19/10


I think it's gross! LOL!
---Mary on 3/19/10


actually, funeral parlors have cheap caskets....we could have gotten my father a tin one for $1,200.

My poor Aunt was BEGGING my sister, "oh please don't buy that one." LOL
---Donna on 3/19/10


I might buy a Walmart coffin for myself and store it. I'll be needing it fairly soon anyway.
---ger.toshav on 3/19/10


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