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Trav, you fail to understand the CHURCH was taken out of the wounded side of Jesus Christ just as Eve was taken out of Adam's side.Ephesians 5, the MYSTERY Paul wants us to understand,Ephesians 3.

The Body of Christ(US)is HIS Bride. We are betrothed to Christ, a LEGAL CONTRACT that cannot be broken! And not only that we are bone of HIS Bone and flesh of HIS Flesh,
Made up both Jew and Gentile during this dispensation of GRACE have a heavenly calling.

Israel the NATION when all is fulfilled will be the restored wife of God will be brought back to their LAND (of which the Church was never promised land).

This is what you don't understand.

I'm no longer Israel of a Jew, but a New Creation IN CHRIST!!!
---kathr4453 on 3/26/10


Point 2 Trav. ... Therefore you are a WOMAN ..in submission to Christ our Head. ---kathr4453 on 3/25/10

On your point 2 that is no point, except you've contradicted yourself/scripture....again. You stated there were no male or female.
There is no "Bride" yet either...and when there is it will be the same collective House as it was previously. This is my NEW COVENANT...made with....Heb 8:8.
Hos 2:16And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi, and shalt call me no more Baali.
19And I will betroth thee unto me for ever, yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
Meat.
---Trav on 3/26/10


Simon - Job had relative freedom and wealth but cursed the day he was born. Job 3:1, Job 1:22
--
He'd have lots of company today!
The most appreciative people I've known were those who had very little.
---Donna66 on 3/25/10


Amen to that, what many of us lack is a real understanding (and outward living) of contentment. I like Philippians 4: 10-13 and 1 Timothy 6 (esp v6-8). Some have the head knowledge but don't live it out.
---simon7348 on 3/26/10


Point 2 Trav. ... Therefore you are a WOMAN ..in submission to Christ our Head. ....and YOU are out of line if you feel YOU as a man have authority over any woman except your wife here on earth.
---kathr4453 on 3/25/10

U r Foolish. Women who seek mens work. This type offer many opportunity's to share witnessing scripture though.
1 Timothy 2:13
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

Now if a woman trys to be Adam instead of Eve it's a little unnatural. There is an order I didn't make. I still honor a mother, and Jesus had one. I still honor my wife,my daughter and love them for the women they are. Now if they are masculine and attempt masculine things...it's against GOD's order.
---Trav on 3/25/10


Simon
Job had relative freedom and wealth but cursed the day he was born. Job 3:1, Job 1:22 He'd have lots of company today!

The most appreciative people I've known were those who had very little.
---Donna66 on 3/25/10




most people never read all the articles listed in the declaration of independence,they are numerous,and show that the king of england
---tom2 on 3/26/10


Donna5335-
I was reflecting back to you the impression I got from your post. I wasn't trying to "accuse" you.

What you said was: The USA is NOT free. We live with murderers, child molesters, and who really cares about joining a union? I guess I interpreted this to mean the freedom you expect should include freedom from the possible actions of criminals. "Who really cares about joining a union?" Sorry,I took this as a flip statement showing disregard for things that are important to others.

Sorry if I misinterpeted.

HOW DO YOU KNOW I don't thank God?
Donna, I'm glad you thank God for... whatever you thank God for. But I know only what you are NOT grateful for in your country.
---Donna66 on 3/25/10


King/Creator/Husband...IS-RA-EL means RULING with. Woman came from Man....which someone cruelly, has just about ruined the concept for you.
Being ruled/schooled is the part you are coping with....but,being out of order scripturally you will not be allowed too.
---Trav on 3/24/10


Point 2 Trav. We are under the Headship of Jesus Christ, The Church that is, whether man or woman we are HIS BRIDE. Therefore you are a WOMAN in that sense of the word and in submission to Christ our Head. In Christ there is neither male or female, but a New Creation. WE, incluning YOU if you are Born Again are HIS BODY, Bride, and YOU are out of line if you feel YOU as a man have authority over any woman except your wife here on earth.
---kathr4453 on 3/25/10


Donna5335, I was defining the difference between the freedom you speak of and the freedom we have as a people. If you got my statement wrong I am sorry. I read what you said and tried to figure out why you were saying what you did about our freedom. We do have that freedom, to be a lot of things if we persue them. Some are hard to get but our trust is in God.
We're blessed to be born in America compared to any nation in the world. People are not going to Africa, they come from Africa, Mexico China Viet Nam etc. because this is the place everyone in the world would like to live, they understand what we have that they don't. People here many times do not appreciate what they have. Sure there is much to fix but no where is it as good as here.
---MarkV. on 3/25/10


Donna66 I am appalled that you start your blog out nicely, then start accusing me again.

You said, You feel the country OWES you a neighborhood free from crime. HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU KNOW THAT? That's such a false accusation. That's NOT the truth Donna66.

You do give the impression of one who lives in their own little world. I live by Psalm 91, in the secret place of the Most High God. Coming from an abusive background, I stick with God and a few close friends. Maybe I'm just scared, did you ever think of that?

Can you not thank God that you live in this land? HOW DO YOU KNOW I don't thank God? You have no idea what my prayer life is like, do you?

Donna66 I forgive you and I love you in the Lord Jesus.
---Donna5535 on 3/25/10




***IS-RA-EL means RULING with. Woman came from Man....which someone cruelly, has just about ruined the concept for you.
Being ruled/schooled is the part you are coping with....but,being out of order scripturally you will not be allowed too.
---Trav on 3/24/10


Trav, God made a covenant with ISRAEL giving them the land He promised. When Joshua spoke to Israel before he died he warned them of what would happen if they disobeyed the LAW given to them by Moses..THOU SHALL HAVE no other Gods before me.

Now we see Solomon, who in fact brought into Israel other Gods through his many pagan wives, and GOD took it all away, scattering the Kingdom....

NO SUCH covenant has ever been given to a Gentile Nation!
---kathr4453 on 3/25/10


iam grateful,but being born american,and free is way down on my list,way down,first is jesus,and his father,then the comforter,then being born,then my children ,then grandchildren,then mom and dad,then siblings,then grandparents,then nieces and nephews,I could be there at freedoms in about 15 or twenty thousand words,but they wouldn,t post it.
---tom2 on 3/25/10


continued,sunshine,star lite evenings,big buck on opening day,health,love,patience,wisdom,friends,especially my great grandsons survival,who the doctors said was a miracle,after being born at 25 weeks had so many battles, but has turned out fine,but especially the freedom from pride given me by the holy spirit of any attachments to this world through creature comforts,knowing that I may suffer here,but one day the love and joy will be so great when finally I return home.just an abbreviated list.
---tom2 on 3/25/10


Simon7438--- Thanks for understanding my question. Where do you live?
I'm in the mother/fatherland (,-) ) England

It was a Nigerian pastor that got me thinking more about this... He said he kept hearing Americans praying, "God bless us". He said "Don't you realize how God has ALREADY blessed you?! I was very moved.
In my own way, I wanted to pass this message on.---Donna66 on 3/24/10

That makes it even clearer thanks. Perhaps the problem is that Christians should be thankful for the immeasurable blessing of Jesus Christ. Job had relative freedom and wealth but cursed the day he was born. Job 3:1, Job 1:22
---simon7348 on 3/25/10


AND TRAV, Israel in the OT was not a Democracy but THEOCRACY! NOW do you understand! The Covenant with Israel was based on a THEOCRATIC leadership.
---kathr4453 on 3/24/10

Democracy is similar to your universalism Socialism doctrine. I don't condone it neither does GOD. GOD was the theocratic ruler as King/Creator/Husband...IS-RA-EL means RULING with. Woman came from Man....which someone cruelly, has just about ruined the concept for you.
Being ruled/schooled is the part you are coping with....but,being out of order scripturally you will not be allowed too.
---Trav on 3/24/10


Tom2--I never said this country did everything right from the beginning. Most of what you speak has been corrected. If you don't think you have been blessed, then OK, don't be grateful.
---Donna66 on 3/24/10


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no.violent criminals have rights,national security risk people dont have any,being born american in my opinion is not the massive blessing you think it is,in the vast majority of citizens most are complacent,and un concerned with issues like those in nigeria where fellow christians are persecuted ,and killed for their faith in jesus.so my question is who is more blessed?those that die for their faith,or those that die from mcdonalds hamburgers?
---tom2 on 3/24/10


Kathr, the U.S. is a republic not a democracy of representative government. Israel is a perfect democracy of representative government. For example a democracy would have the Tea Party at 3-4% of the Congress to reflect its membership among voters.
To your other point, What we have in the U.S. is a war on truth and therefore Christianity is in the crosshairs.
Islam, JW, Mormonism and other cults are not under the same threat because they have NO common ground in truth.
They are built on a lie from the father of lies and are no threat to his plans.
---larry on 3/24/10


my point is the freedom you speak of is not applied to all citizens,never was.
---tom2 on 3/24/10


Donna5535-- I can't speak for MarkV, but I'm quite sure he didn't intend to hurt your feelings. You're to be congratulated on your life of hard work and charity.

You do give the impression of one who lives in their own little world...If you don't care...then it's not important. You feel the country OWES you a neighborhood free from crime...but since you depend on the favor of God... you can't rightly blame the government, can you?


Can you not thank God that you live in this land? (He could have placed you in Somalia or Siberia)

If we don't thank God for that blessing, we may find that the freedoms which we accept as our due (to the point we can't even name them) snatched away by the One who gave them.
---Donna66 on 3/24/10


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However when political, spiritual and lay leaders compromise truth both the believer and pagan suffer. This is what we are witnessing brethren.
---larry on 3/23/10

larry, I believe what we are witnessing is some kind of NEW or maybe old thing called Democracy. Is it really ALL THAT? Doesn't Democracy ensure ALL religions have freedom? Then WE complain because these other religions are here usurping our CHRISTIAN faith. We're so democratic, no more prayer in schools, etc. We want to force Democracy of Islamic Countries, but are we the perfect example of democracy?



AND TRAV, Israel in the OT was not a Democracy but THEOCRACY! NOW do you understand! The Covenant with Israel was based on a THEOCRATIC leadership.
---kathr4453 on 3/24/10


Simon7438---
Thanks for understanding my question. Where do you live?

It was a Nigerian pastor that got me thinking more about this. We refurnished his house a couple of times and paid medical bills for him and his family after they were attacked by militant Muslims.

On one of his visits, he addressed the congregation...humbly, even timidly thanking us for our gifts, but saying he needed to correct us on something.

He said he kept hearing Americans praying, "God bless us". He said "Don't you realize how God has ALREADY blessed you?!
If you don't appreciate the blessings you have, how can you ask for more"?

I was very moved.
In my own way, I wanted to pass this message on.
---Donna66 on 3/24/10


Tom2 --- but it [equality] wasn't applied to all men,and not at all to women until after the 1920s. True
And yes, WWII saw the first integration of troops in the military.Then we had something called the Civil Rights Movement and look who is president now!

What is your point Tom2?

The Indians (esp. those who live on oil rich land and have learned to build casinos) are doing pretty well. They get free education beyond high-school to secure a future.

The past is PAST, Tom2. Let it go.

if the government believes you to be a national security risk,you actually have no rights,and can be arrested and jailed.
That's right...same with alleged violent criminals.
---Donna66 on 3/24/10


I suppose in some ways we are more blessed than other countries. But, we are losing our heritage. The World Association for Economic Cooperation and Development has data that supports that the US ranks third highest for percent of people living in poverty out (of 28 "industrialized" nations). We are behind only Mexico and Turkey. "Poor" means not having basic needs like food, shelter, clothing, and medical care. I suppose we do have more food at the homeless shelters though.
---obewan on 3/24/10


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Our freedoms in this country come from God. And God could snatch them away at any time.
---Donna66 on 3/23/10

Well half of this statement Donna66 made is true, our freedoms do come from God, but God will never take anything away that we don't surrender to him first. He lets us hang onto things until we give them over to Him. Our will, Our desires, etc.,

Job proved this to be true when he said, the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh. In Job Ch. 42 God rebuked Job furiously and of course God restored to Job all that the DEVIL (SATAN) took away from Job - God didn't take anything away from Job, but allowed it to happen. SATAN TAKES, GOD GIVES. Amen?
---anon on 3/24/10


MarkV, your statements about me shock me because I admire and respect you.

If what you are saying is true, that I want things to be given to me for free, how come I've been working full-time since I was 17? Made an excellent salary and get good bonuses every year. That is all God's favor on my life. NOTHING to do with government or unions.

If I want others to give to me for doing nothing, how come I gave away 60% of my inheritance to charities that are feeding hungry children all across the world. I fed hundreds of lepers with that money and now I'm asking if we can visit those lepers. Your statements hurt me deeply, but I forgive you. Set your mind on things above, not on things of this earth is what I live by.
---Donna5535 on 3/24/10


the freedoms we have are written down on paper,instituted by men who for generations had been subjected to unfair government rule by England,which came to a head under the rule of KING George,then came the outline we have today,constitution,with its bill of rights,the declaration of independence,ultimately a revolutionary war to secure these liberties,actually the constitution came after the war,and the bill of rights,unique writings for the period,and even today,inspired by free men desiring freedom for all their fellow citizens,but it wasn,t applied to all men,and not at all to women until after the 1920s
---tom2 on 3/24/10


the freedoms mentioned in the preamble of the constitution should have had the word white in front of the word men,they didn,t apply to black men,free or slave,or women,and never have applied to native americans,as late as world war 2 blacks were segragated from the whites in all military branches,and american indians were treated as conquered nations,this was done so that by law we could take all their land away from them,well atleast all the good land,and in most cases giving them a very small portion back and forcing them onto reservations,then in many cases starving them into submission.
---tom2 on 3/24/10


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the freedoms you have are institued by government ,from consent of the governed.And actually if the government believes you to be a national security risk,you actually have no rights,and can be arrested and jailed without due process.also you actually have no privacy anymore,and have been degraded into a statistic.
---tom2 on 3/24/10


simon -- I'm sorry you think the question comes across as being "Aren't we great?"...
...We have become so unused to gratitude that we are ashamed to speak highly of this country. THAT's not politically correct.
(which is the reason for the question)

It is similar over here, so from that perspective, I understand your question better thank you :-) I do feel PCness has gone waaaaaay too far!

It's Ok to call our country wicked and evil...And God could snatch them away at any time. --Donna66
Maybe "How do we help America {or country of choice} to thank God for His blessings?" We ALL need to be more thankful more often.
---simon7348 on 3/24/10


simon --
I'm sorry you think the question comes across as being "Aren't we great?"

I feel we Americans are much like the Hebrews who grumbled about having only manna to eat.
We have become so unused to gratitude that we are ashamed to speak highly of this country. THAT's not politically correct.
(which is the reason for the question)

It's Ok to call our country wicked and evil, or at the very least, apologize to the rest of the world for "whatever" we think they might not like about us. (that's what government schools have taught for about 50 yrs.)
Our freedoms in this country come from God. And God could snatch them away at any time.
---Donna66 on 3/23/10


Donna5535. The freedoms we have come from God. Many years ago our founders were smart enough to base our freedoms on what God has given us, and I think we should be grateful.

....all men are created equal, that .they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

There is nothing that compares to the freedom we have in Christ. That's spiritual. That's eternal.
But we are blessed to live in a country where we can witness freely of His grace and become all He has designed us to be.
---Donna66 on 3/23/10


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Donna66, that is what I gather from what Donna5335 says, that she wants things to be given to her for free, not freedom in general. She wants others to give to her for doing nothing. Unions are great for many. They are good for me since my medical coverage comes from the contract we had through Ford Motor Co. If I had not had a union I would not have what I now have. So union were good to me, maybe not good for others. We are blessed above every nation, but God has blessed some more then others.
---MarkV. on 3/23/10


Donna66 and Kathr are exactly right, God made no covenant with any Gentile nation. He has not blessed the United States as a place on a map but blessed those who honor him within the United States. When leaders honor God even pagans like Atheist are blessed and that is what we had from our forefathers. Even then great cruelty existed simultaneously to natives and then slaves.
However when political, spiritual and lay leaders compromise truth both the believer and pagan suffer. This is what we are witnessing brethren.
We have ourselves to blame because the unbelievers are simply along for the ride good or bad. They can change nothing about their fate, but enjoy their blessing by Christians and a God they curse. Pathetic
---larry on 3/23/10


Donna 5535
MarkV was exactly right.
And I never mentioned free and easy. Just FREE

The things you don't care about, voting or unions, are important to some people. But you don't care about their freedom. Yet YOU think YOU should be GUARANTEED a crime-free place to live!

You don't want to move or advance your occupational skills or explore a new occupation. But you COULD if you WANTED to. Oh, it might be expensive and inconvenient. but you have the FREEDOM to do these things. You seem mostly interested in what's "easy". And that's OK.

But I pray you never live under a government that tells you WHERE to live, WHAT jobs you can do and HOW FAR you can go in life. That's REALLY not easy!
---Donna66 on 3/23/10


Donna5335, but you do have the freedom to move where ever you want. Just as Donna stated. Maybe you cannot at this time because you are not able, but you do have the freedom. You also have the freedom to make more money on your salary. The reason you don't is because you didn't educate yourself or because you like your position. But you had the freedom maybe not the ability. Don't blame your ability on freedom. Our freedom has conditions no matter what. You have the freedom to drive, but not the freedom to speed. you have the freedom to talk, but not the freedom to talk bad to a cop, judge, and certain people are you get jailed. You have the freedom to move and live where crime is very little, but you again are not able.
---MarkV. on 3/23/10


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God never made a covenant with a Gentile Nation, and especially a Covenant based on the OLD Covenant of Moses under LAW that if they would obey God would give earthly blessings.
---kathr4453 on 3/22/10

Technically/scripturally again,you are not correct above. The covenants you refer to are never ending...
Reference: Covenant/ for ever, everlasting etc.
The Northern house of Israel...divorced was among heathens or gentiles as you prefer. The New Covenant Heb 8:8, Lost Sheep of the House of Israel is who this covenant is two...along with Judah. You can't see it but, some lost sheep will.
Psalm 105:8
He hath remembered his covenant for ever
Ezekiel 16:60
Nevertheless I will remember my covenant
---Trav on 3/23/10


The freedoms of America were born out of BLOOD, of those who fought in the American Revolution, the civil war etc.

Our Freedoms were born out of our Fathers, Grandfathers and Great Grandfathers blood sacrifice and lives.

To say that doesn't matter is wrong. Those who fought in WW11 to free those murdered in concentration camps, not just Jews but all Hitler hated and thought were inferior to him.

YES, there are things WORTH fighting for! We are still alive here and live here. Yes , we need to keep our mind on heavenly things, but not so much that we forget our responsibilities here as well!

Are we to be so heavenly minded we're no earthly good?
---kathr4453 on 3/23/10


Part 2 please - last question Donna66 asked:

You can live anywhere in the US, work at or change any occupation, join a union or not. Muslim and Communist countries lack these rights. The US is the only country that actively PROMOTES such freedoms

Donna66, I cannot live anywhere in the US. I must live according to my salary.

I can't change my occupation as my skill set is only in a few areas and it takes a long time to find the right job, so this isn't as free as you're making it sound.

The USA is NOT free. We live with murderers, child molesters, and who really cares about joining a union? That's ridiculous even to say that. Let's agree to disagree on this please. We're just not in the same place.
---Donna5535 on 3/23/10


Donna66, honestly? I don't know what your beef is but I can answer all of your questions. Your tied to this world somehow thinking the government is in control of your life, your world, etc., I'm not where you are on this. Colossians says: Keep seeking the things above, not the things on this earth." Matthew said: "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, etc."

No, it wouldn't bother me if I had no right to vote. God is in control.

China has been holding bible studies underground, where there is a will, there's a way.

Would you mind if your only source of information about the world came from, or by permission of, the government? My source comes from the Word of God. What God wants me to know, He'll tell me.
---Donna5535 on 3/23/10


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Donna5535---The right to vote doesn't mean anything to me
Would it bother you if you had NO right to vote? No chance of influencing your government?
You have the right NOT to vote, too, if you choose. In Australia there is a fine for not voting.

Would it bother you if you were not allowed to witness of your faith, or have a Bible study? In Canada it's illegal to read the Bible on radio.

Would you mind if your only source of information about the world came from, or by permission of, the government?

You can live anywhere in the US, work at or change any occupation, join a union or not. Muslim and Communist countries lack these rights. The US is the only country that actively PROMOTES such freedoms.
---Donna66 on 3/23/10


Donna66 said: But there is much more...especially the rights and freedoms you enjoy. You would be shocked to find that you'd NOT have them in any other country.

Donna, I truly believe with all of my heart that if I became or was a Christian in another country, I would be "In Christ Jesus" and when one is "In Christ Jesus" one is free. So wherever I am, I am free.

Rights? What rights are those? The right to vote doesn't mean anything to me. The right to freedom of speech doesn't come under the scripture that says, "Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.
---Donna5535 on 3/23/10


Infortunately PROSPERITY is a false security. OUR, that is those IN CHRIST have OUR BLESSINGS IN HEAVENLY places IN CHRIST, not here on earth!

You can't have two masters.

But because Satan has blinded and fooled those whether personally into the prosperity Gospel or America herself. Just compare to the fall of Babylon in Revelation, and all her wealth with her!

Now we are chanting curses at the Body of Christ by saying IF WE, God's People don't turn from her wicked ways. The Body of Christ is not WICKED or need to be warned of wicked ways, or is responsible for any issues this country has in it's downfall.
---kathr4453 on 3/23/10


its apparent many dont know what a real blessing is.its not money,or wealth,its not even the freedom spoken of so often,the most blessed people on earth,the jews,have been the most persecuted,and for nearly 2000 years didn,t have a country.I have been in third world countries,most have all the freedoms we have,what is missing is infrastructure in business and services.
---tom2 on 3/23/10


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there is no humility,or quiet gratitude,or thankfullness to our creator shown by most people today.all nations are a sum of its people,who by nature all long to be free,but my point is there really is no freedom in this world,in the flesh.many people of the world look to america as the country that offers the worldly freedom I speak of,yet today several countries are wealthier,and a number of the so called third world countries are weathier than they are,In el salvador,and guatemala there are many churches that have services 24/7,with people constantly in intercessory prayer.
---tom2 on 3/23/10


your not free until jesus sets you free,I have come to set the captives free,those who the son sets free are free indeed.I believe america is more in bondage than any other country,greed abounds and love of money,so just how free are you without christ?freedom in this world,in the flesh,compared to the freedom given by our lord is a joke.FYI theres no line in heaven for americans.
---tom2 on 3/22/10


kathr4453---Great Point!
The "entitlement mentality" is an example of the very ingratitude I'm talking about. NO, God made no covenant of any kind with this country... which only makes His blessings more remarkable, since we are not entitled to any of them.

The prosperity gospel preaches that we are "entitled" (through the Word) to luxeries, when, in many parts of the world, people are praying only for more food to give their children.


On a personal level, this mentality would say that since we are "entitled" to whatever...we lack it only because of sombody else's failure. It kills a sense of self responsibility and keeps us from repentance toward God.
---Donna66 on 3/22/10


tom2-- When the earliest settlers came to this country (to what became Plymouth Colony) they believed that they could live as the early Christians... sharing all their resources, sharing all their work. That winter only half of them survived. There was endless bickering about people "shirking" their responsibilities.

In the Spring, out of desperation, their leader apportioned a piece of land to each family and made them responsible for their own land. The colony thrived from then on.

Call it greed, call it self-preservation
...this was the motivating force of American life from then on. And the country, as a whole, prospered.
---Donna66 on 3/22/10


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kathr4453,yes,my point is freedom is transient until one accepts jesus,until then no matter what freedoms you enjoy,even if you are an american, you are still in bondage. So whats the real blessing from God?being american,french,english,NOPE our blessings dont start until we accept jesus and his salvation.God doesn,t indiscremently bless any nation,honestly america,and its dream have been built on GREED.
---tom2 on 3/22/10


Donna66, I believe your respones are very correct in nature. All of what you have stated is correct. We have been blessed more then other nations. Just as other nations have been blessed more then others.
God has given earthly blessings to everyone. Anything anyone has comes from God. The sun even shine on those who hate Him. Pride is the sin that so many have, they are not happy with what they have.
---MarkV. on 3/22/10


Pride is a sin in this country...it is equalled or exceeded by ingratitude
---Donna66 on 3/22/10

DONNA66, I believe the sin of this country is the entitlement attitude, that because we are suppose to be a Christian Nation we DESERVE the Blessings that were promised to Israel alone. It's where the ORIGINAL Prosperity Gospel came from.

God never made a covenant with a Gentile Nation, and especially a Covenant based on the OLD Covenant of Moses under LAW that if they would obey God would give earthly blessings.
---kathr4453 on 3/22/10


God has blessed America beyond measure!! The average man on the street in America has more access to the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ than any other person in any other country. Tradition has been swept aside in America. Long-held customs are lax in America. And innovative thinking is commonplace in America. It is my contention that one of the main reasons for America being showered with blessings is our relationship, and support off, the nation of Israel. UK even after the white paper, denied Israel her freedom and it is easily seen what happened to her and her empower!
---mima on 3/22/10


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Donna5535 - Do you mean with material things like wealth, homes, cars, food on our table? Then yes.
But there is much more...especially the rights and freedoms you enjoy. You would be shocked to find that you'd NOT have them in any other country.

Pride is a sin in this country...it is equalled or exceeded by ingratitude
---Donna66 on 3/22/10


Do you mean with material things like wealth, homes, cars, food on our table? Then yes.

I actually believe God's mercy endures forever throughout all generations and it is that mercy that He has shown America. We come before His throne to receive Grace and Mercy.

I also believe God blesses individual people, not an entire nation. God blesses obedience and believing in Him. He doesn't bless murderers and thieves, and people who worship false idols and distort the word and those who don't believe Jesus is the Son of God. He opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble and I heard Pride is the number one sin in America.
---Donna5535 on 3/22/10


"the only freedom that God is concerned with is your free will" tom2


Tom that's great. I will also add, the only LIBERTY God is concerned with is our LIBERTY in Jesus Christ.


AND that Liberty in Christ comes to those who by their own FREE WILL have placed their faith in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sin.

As anti-Christ moves upon the earth, MarkV will be the first to shout...Got to HELL all you people..it's GOD'S WILL!
---kathr4453 on 3/22/10


Can I ask (and I don't mean this in an unkind way at all so apologies if it appears to be...) is this the right kind of question to ask? I just think it comes across as being "Aren't we great?", and yes Donna, I know that you've rightly pointed out that it's not about if it's deserved or not. In the OT it was often about God blessing Israel, and pointing towards how, from Israel, ALL nations would be blessed by a Saviour. Through Christ, we as FREE individuals are blessed (undeservedly) in that He died on the cross for our sins. Has God blessed {insert any country here}? Yes! Have {insert country} deserved it? No! He gives abundantly (1 Timothy 1:12-15)
---simon7348 on 3/22/10


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Andy3996 -- Wherever you are from, thank you so much for your input.
Of course America has not always been right! What country has been? Many younger adults have been propogandized to believe the USA is evil....but they don't see enough of the rest of the world to compare.
I think it must sadden God to see so many so ungrateful.
---Donna66 on 3/22/10


Over abundantly. People that are rightly here & those that aren't rightly here, need to turn & Bless God In return with Thanksgiving unto Him every day. But because of smug - self righteous un-thankful people that don't, America is going down-hill fast.
---Lawrence on 3/22/10


God has blessed America more then many other countries.

Tom 2. I was going over the answers and happen to see yours. You said,

"the only freedom that God is concerned with is your free will"

Are you saying that Almighty God who created everything who cannot make mistakes who knows what is in your heart "is concern about something?" And that the concern is our free will? Why would God be concern? Do you believe there are things going on around that God does not know of that might ruin free will? Free will is not found in Scripture so which one are you talking about? I was wondering where you heard that from?
---MarkV. on 3/22/10


I believe the only blessings God gives to GENTILE Nations comes from what God said to Abraham..I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.

There is a very interesting time line of events closely associated with America's dealings with Israel that some believe like Katrina have brought a curse upon America.
---kathr4453 on 3/22/10


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I'm afraid America did much evil from the very beginning, with its Indian genocide and chattel slavery, and later its unbridled capitalism. There was no Golden Age of societal moral behavior in the USA. We've just traded in some of the old sins for new ones.
---ger.toshav on 3/21/10

Indian genocide? Well recorded History shows us that Indians fought Indians,submitted their own kind to slavery/torture etc,etc. At times they did ally themselves with the French/Spanish/British or New Americans for either their gain or the others.
Christians had an advantage...for the good of all.
Psalm 2:8
Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
---Trav on 3/22/10


america has interest & with its military it will protect those interest. surely you will be blessed if other countries will placate to your interest.
---mike on 3/22/10


Donna66, my guess is that your experience was just quite different from mine. I was born in California in 1944 and thus passed most of my childhood and adolescence during the 1950s. I did not experience it as a Golden Age. Perhaps you did, and if so I am glad for you.
---ger.toshav on 3/21/10


Abundantly!!!

---Leon on 3/21/10


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Excellent post Donna66. Right on the money.

Your posts gives many of us hope in knowing there are many True Americans out there who haven't fogtten who we once were and can be again.

History is being rewritten so we would be ashamed of being Americans.

FOR OUR CHILDRENS SAKE, DON'T LET IT HAPPEN!
---John on 3/22/10


\\You obviously didn't live America during the 40's and 50's in the US. It was pretty much a golden age of morality\\

I really wonder about that.

Yes, there was security, stability, and prosperity for white people, but that was all. And I really doubt about it being a "golden age of morality."

The movie PLEASANTVILLE did a good job of showing the bigotry and intolerance simmering below the placid surface.
---Cluny on 3/22/10


let a foreigner give you an answer to above question,
America has, and still is the most blessed christian nation in the world who has spread freedom, hope, brotherhood to every corner of the world. did America do bad? of course, they did, as any nation governed by man, still the US of A has always strived to be a safehaven for the oppressed, and even today when it is "what you pessimists call bad" the US continues to be ten times better then any other nation. a land of possibilities and hope and future. i am only sorry that many americans do not see the blessing they have in their hand. US is inspired by God, and Gods hand is still upon it.
---Andy3996 on 3/22/10


ger.toshav-- I disagree. You obviously didn't live America during the 40's and 50's in the US. It was pretty much a golden age of morality... except for segregation. BUT we've had a Civil Rights movement, remember? I know you don't want to believe there is anything good about the United States, and I'm sorry you've adopted the attitude of her enemies.

I NEVER say America DESERVED the blessings of God! Do YOU DESERVE salvation? Do you deserve blessings? Have you ever been blessed?
---Donna66 on 3/21/10


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I'm afraid America did much evil from the very beginning, with its Indian genocide and chattel slavery, and later its unbridled capitalism. There was no Golden Age of societal moral behavior in the USA. We've just traded in some of the old sins for new ones.
---ger.toshav on 3/21/10


would you agree that israel are Gods chosen people?so by your reckoning america is more blessed.do you know israels history?blessings?exactly what are they?freedom?nope?the only freedom that God is concerned with is your free will.america has become a secular,greedy,society,and disobidient to Gods word,so why would he bless us?societys favorite punchline SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE,is a direct slap to the face of GOD, a nation who says it will operate without divine guidance,yet hypocritically prints in God we trust on their money.
---tom2 on 3/21/10


If any of you have a chance, I hope you go to third world country...or even a world power that is less well developed, like China or India. A misson trip can be enlightening for the evangelist as well as the evangelized.
---Donna66 on 3/21/10


ger.toshav -- No we don't. But praise God for showers, anyway.
---Donna66 on 3/21/10


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there are blessings from abraham,and of course Gods blessings on his people israel,there are blessings on believers,and God makes it rain and shines the sun on all people.I like the answer in another similar post,has america left God?capitalism,economics,materalism,have become the God of most americans today,our society by far is secular based,nations rise and nations fall,but those who turn away from God,from obidience wont like Gods judgement.now really it depends on what you believe a blessing is,money,a new car, a grand house,
---tom2 on 3/20/10


Notice the question is not "does America deserve God's blessing" but HAS God blessed America? I say he has... mightily. Materially he has given us a super abundance. (America is not the source of all greed. Greed is a universal sin, common to every land and every race, of rich and poor).

He has given us more personal freedoms than any nation. (More than any nation has ever had including "democracies" of ancient Greece or Rome).

Besides all the sins of the flesh... sodomy,
incest, other perversions, crime and murder. I believe one of our greatest sins in the US is ingratitude to God. Yet no one calls for repentance.
---Donna66 on 3/20/10


The sun shines and the rain falls on the just and unjust alike. If we are blessed, it's not because we are just...
---ger.toshav on 3/20/10


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