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Well Cluny it seems you're Bipolar with who you claim you are and what you defend.
---John on 3/30/10


As christians, aren't we suppose to help those in need? If so, How would you help those 30 millions of Americans who do not have health insurance? Is christianism a religion of selfishness? The European countries reacted to the passage of this legislation by saying to the Americans: Welcome to the 20th century. Which means, we are a century lagging behind all industrialized countries as far as the healthcare issue is concerned. Finally, we know true christians by their deeds and good intentions, not only words.
---Gene on 3/30/10


\\Liberalism is just Religious Cult!
---John on 3/29/10\\

Calling it a religious cult does not make it so, John (or is it Pastor_ Jim?)
---Cluny on 3/30/10


larry --
If you have insurance you can think of nothing more disgusting than providing health care for those who don't have it and can't afford it

WHO is "you", anyway. And how do you know what "you" finds disgusting?
---Donna66 on 3/29/10


If healthcare is to be free, shouldn't medical education and malpractice insurance be free? Otherwise nobody will be able to afford being a doctor.
In the UK, medical education is also payed for by the Government.
Even then, they have a doctor shortage.
---Donna66 on 3/30/10




Health care is not just another business, it is a necessity, one that everyone in this country is entitled too. (Yeah, I'm liberal, so what?)
---NurseRobert on 3/29/10

WOW! Healthcare is a Rignt Now!

Wait to you see just how high your costs and services will be when YOUR government bureaucrats take it over.

Been to the Post office lately or the Dept of motor vehicle? Higher taxes , Higher Insurance premiums, 3rd world Healthcare.

But of course liberals, such as yourself never are aware of human nature.

Remember your Luxury tax to get the GREEDY rich. And guess what? The workers were all laid off as the rich purchased their Luxury cars in Europe instead of the USA.

Liberalism is just Religious Cult!
---John on 3/29/10


larry -- I didn't HEAR anything. I UNDERSTAND how insurance works!
To stay in business insurance companies, like any business, have to make a certain amount of money...they do this by balancing the number of "healthy" people they insure, with those who are likely to need expensive care. It is aways a gamble, based on statistics. Their profit MARGIN (not profit) is usually slim.

Some controls on insurance companies may be tolerable, but when the government ignores the statistics and makes all the rules, the Insurance companies WILL inevitably fail. Then we will have purely socialized medicine. Obama knows this. Progressives know this. Government run socialized medicine is what they wanted all along.
---Donna66 on 3/29/10


Some new person is postng under my name.

PLEASE STOP!
---John on 3/29/10


John, health coverage for every American should be regulated by the government, else the poor continue to die prematurely for inability to afford needed medical care. A hospital bed in the late 70's was a little over $300. in California, but today that same bed- depending on which hospital you are admitted to is outrageously 30 times over that. Just so the doctors can buy their luxurious mansions. The government also needs to regulate the utility companies so they cannot greedily gouge the people for that which is needed to survive. Many people have frozen to death in their homes because the utility companies have cut off their heat for not paying the sinfully inflated cost of gas and electric- in my Book and God's, that is murder.
---Eloy on 3/29/10


Eloy, Do you believe that Government should be in the business of competing with private businesses?
---John_in_VA on 3/28/10

When the business (such as health insurance companies) refuses to provide the service people need, cancels their policies because they are too expensive to cover, jack up rates 40% and more because they can, you're darn right the government should step in.

Health care is not just another business, it is a necessity, one that everyone in this country is entitled too. (Yeah, I'm liberal, so what?)
---NurseRobert on 3/29/10




Thank you pq1. Edifying Christians, imagine that?

John of Va, seniors are so expensive to take care of that if they weren't covered by Medicare they would go without. Private insurance in the free market would never seize an investment with such a low ROR.
Now it could be argued its just their time to go as we do in third world countries, but you are really talking about a seismic shift.

Donna66, 5 weeks ago private insurance company stocks hit a 52-year high because of the guaranteed influx of both new customers and taxpayer revenue to pay for their care. I'm not sure where you heard such an absurd claim but come back to earth sister. God bless.
---larry on 3/29/10


John of VA -- You are right on.

Wish Thomas Jefferson was around now. He said:
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny, when the government fears the people, there is liberty."
We are losing liberty fast!
---Donna66 on 3/29/10


Donna66 and Trav,
First, I did not try to cover him with Scripture because those are my words based upon my Biblical understanding of how Christ dealt with humanity. My point is this- The Christ of the Bible would not shun Obama because of his policies as many seem to think. He would go to the White House if invited. He would dialogue with The President and challenge him to live and do what is right.
---pg1 on 3/29/10


Eloy, Do you believe that Government should be in the business of competing with private businesses? Should the Feds be in the auto business? should the Feds be in and competing with private insurance companies? Don't you realize that the more government control on businesses the less they thrive? Oftentimes the cost the Feds create when it comes to governement control and intervention is very costly for business owners. I say lets get government out of our live and let businesses thrive.More Growth means more jobs, then the better the economy and we all come out better. We need to reduce the size of government, not invite goverment to interfere with the free interprize system with alot of control and unnecessary regulations. John in VA
---John_in_VA on 3/28/10


Some parts of the bill are OK...of course no one TOLD US what was IN the bill before they passed it.
Some parts should be changed.
As it stands now, the insurance companies will have to go out of business...and that will leave the Government as the only provider. In this case we will have to have a VAT tax (in Europe, sometimes as much as 30% on purchases) and ration care as in the UK. This would make the progressives happy.
The UK does not offer the life-saving treatment I got for my cancer 5 years ago. And their survival rate for breast cancer is 20% lower than ours. I think we can do better for everybody.
---Donna66 on 3/28/10


It depends. If you don't have insurance or are a grad student its great.

If you have insurance you can think of nothing more disgusting than providing health care for those who don't have it and can't afford it.

With the bill having become law maybe Boehner and McConnell should move to the next absurdity and fight any idea to provide food for those who don't have it and can't afford it?

To quote Eric Cantor of the imaginary bullet fame, its "Repeal and Replace".


I may be mad at spending 23-trillion on the banks, but spending 1-trillion on health care is just too much to fathom. I might just through a brick through your office window.
---larry on 3/28/10


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pg1
The scripture you quote is sadly misapplied.

Unlike "obamacare"--- GOD never owes more than He can pay. GOD has NO debts. GOD does not need to deprive some in order bless others.
If GOD was financing Obamacare, nobody would object. But Obama isn't God (despite what he and others may think).
---Donna66 on 3/28/10


Donna66 and Trav,
I do not understand your reply.
---pg1 on 3/26/10

The point is....you try to cover him with a scripture that doesn't even fit. Put a fancy Title on a mongrel he is still a dog. It does not make him his title. If he was killing your children or your childrens children you would be screaming and condemning. Promoting/upholding/defending/legalizing perversion will affect your/our kids. But you seem willing to sacrifice them to the man you allow to lord you. (Pause, for disgust.) Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
---Trav on 3/27/10


pg1---Did you quote: He seeks out and embraces lost souls so they that too may have a place in the Kingdom?
If not I apologize.

I thought you were relating this to the health care bill. that's the reason for my reply.
---Donna66 on 3/26/10


John, The innocent have no need of apologizing, but the guilty: therefore you will not get any apology from me for your sin, but instead a swift rebuke. The whites who are publicly recorded to be sinfully dissing the president should repent for their disrespect and insolence. I have the record of the sedition and bad-mouthing and slander I witness from the white individuals on the television broadcasts. And I rightly condemn every soul whom misjudges myself, along with misjudging every righteous person, and misjudging the righteous President of the U.S. And I will always support righteousness, and I will totally condemn sin.
---Eloy on 3/26/10


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"Well Obewan this is a begining of a great friendship."
(Humphrey Bogart/Casablanca)
---John on 3/27/10


Can you reconcile this one for me please!

I think you're driving me to drinking!
---John 3/26/10
OK I'll try.

I was just being honest.

I have posted numerous times that I voted with the Constitution Party because they stood with me against Middle East wars and against abortion. I am also for reducing taxes, but think we can do that by not pushing things like the Iraq war into our budget.

I am in favor of medical care though.

I just took that famous political survey and it called me a libertarian - even with my views on healthcare reform. I dont like the LP views on illegal drug reform though.

I am "honest" in admitting that my vote for Baldwin ended up "helping" Obama win.
---obewan on 3/26/10


If you voted for the Constitution Party like me YOU did not vote on this!
---obewan on 3/26/10

**** NOW I AM REALLY SHOCKED! ***

After endless posts in support of Obama and socialism/Maxism.

You are now telling me you are a member of the Constitional Party. The MOST conservative party on Earth.

Can you reconcile this one for me please!

I think you're driving me to drinking!
---John on 3/26/10


With Socialism, Communism, the "greatness" of Mao and nasty Nancy who said, "We need to pass this bill to understand what is in it." The GOP nor Democrats know whats in the bill. So, WHO WROTE THIS BILL?
Ask the Caterpillar Company if this is a "Healthy" bill? It's cheaper to close than spend 200 million on this plan.
People will pay fines because it's cheaper. When they get a serious illness they will then buy it because they CAN NOT BE TURNED DOWN.
This plan will not fund abortions, HBO. (After it is passed) Ugh.... well maybe just for..... (Hey, we all know that being pregnant can make a woman sick. Its all part of health care.)
The sick politicians will still have their own (good) plan.
---Elder on 3/26/10


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Donna66 and Trav,
I do not understand your reply.
---pg1 on 3/26/10


>>"Communism" and "without voting" (John)<<

I suppose you think it "communism" that we will be allowed free choice between a variety of PRIVATE insurance companies and can still keep our employer provided policies.

Where on earth were you on Sunday night when the VOTE was taken? Why don't you post up concern that 8 Republicans did not vote allowing the bill to pass.

Bush lost the popular vote and pushed us into a $1 trillion war that 75% of the people are now opposed to. Is that communism?

If you voted for the Constitution Party like me YOU did not vote on this!
---obewan on 3/26/10


pg1-- He seeks out and embraces lost souls so they that too may have a place in the Kingdom

No Christian would disagree.
This verse is speaking of spiritual things, not material. And there is quite a difference.

GOD never owes more than He can pay. GOD has NO debts. GOD does not need to deprive some in order bless others.
If GOD was financing Obamacare, nobody would object.
---Donna66 on 3/26/10


He seeks out and embraces lost souls so they that too may have a place in the Kingdom.
---pg1 on 3/26/10

King Herod was a baby killer....didn't help him any. Sodomite promoters are not listed as making it either.
Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Matthew 7:17
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Jeremiah 13:23
Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
---Trav on 3/26/10


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\\Do you know of anyone who is having to make a decision between paying for prescription drugs or buying groceries, or whether to turn on the heat or ac in their home, etc.?\\

I know at least one person even now who has to decide sometimes whether to buy food or pay for his rx meds--and he's a diabetic.

Now what?
---Cluny on 3/26/10


"Happy is the man [person] that walks not in the counsel [advise] of the ungodly, nor stands in the way [stews in the juices] of sinners, nor sits in the seat of the scornful [the contemptuous]...": Ps. 1

Anyone here know at least one person who's life was aborted (terminated) due to health care insurance denial because of a pre-existing condition? Do you know of anyone who is having to make a decision between paying for prescription drugs or buying groceries, or whether to turn on the heat or ac in their home, etc.?
---Leon on 3/26/10


Definitely not happy about the Bill.

because of the legislation Insurance companies can offer only 4 types of policies to sell.

All cafeteria options plans are gone.

Dental insurance from employers is gone.

Ocular insurance from employers is gone.

Medicare supplement plans are gone.

I will also increase unemployment because of the thresholds imposed on small business of 10 and 50 employees if a business is just over a threshold people will be fired to get below them.
---Friendly_Blogger on 3/26/10


John ... Alll Eloy is saying that people of all races elected your President ... and thatr is true.

And he is white himself. You don't deserve an apology ... you should give one
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/26/10


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Eloy, 70-75% of the population is White.

No one is elected president unless white people vote him in. That is the cold hard facts.

And White bashing is not acceptable to me or anyone else. You might get away with your racial hatred towards Whites when you are talking to Liberal Guilt Ridden Whites, but not for the rest of us White people.

Its not "OKAY" to hate or to bash White people.

We will NOT accept it anymore!

You need to pray to G-d to get rid of your racist attitudes and stereotyping of White People.

WE EXPECT AN APOLOGY FROM YOU!!!
---John on 3/26/10


Good morning John
I submit that Jesus would not shun President Obama. According to Scriptures, he condemned the self righteous and those who were so religious they could not see their own sin. He waited for the woman at the well, He forgave the adulterous woman, He granted the request of the Phoenician woman. He healed the demoniac as well as the Roman Centurions servant. He seeks out and embraces lost souls so they that too may have a place in the Kingdom.
---pg1 on 3/26/10


Funny how the Dems didn't have a problem inciting anger and intimidation of private citizens, namely AIG employees. Citizens who broke no laws and whose "crimes" consisted of earning a living by working hard. Now they need those same citizens to keep earning big money in order to finance health care with higher taxes. The fact is that everybody got taxed, but we're supposed to keep quiet about that.

Yet when the Dems pass a blatantly unconstitutional law which eats away at the liberty of the citizens, and the citizens dare to show any insubordination toward their superiors, the Dems are horrified. How dare those little people react this way? They obviously don't know what's good for them.
---ralph7477 on 3/26/10


\\2) Jesus would have absolutely nothing to do with this Evil man. A man who not only advocate baby killing, but if they survive he advocates that the doctor kill them. \\

John, please don't confuse yourself with Jesus.

Remember, Jesus died for Obama, too.
---Cluny on 3/25/10


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John, you speak falsehood: for the truth is that our President of the U.S. was voted in by all races in the U.S. Therefore I correct your falsehood, for your racial card is the card that is invalid, and my judgment is righteous judgment. Now as I have already stated the truth, our black President is hated mostly by the nonblacks or the white people: as is the classic case for most racial prejudices, namely, to hate that race which is not your own race. period. As for me, I myself am not prejudice at all, but instead I love all righteous souls equally no matter what color or race they are.
---Eloy on 3/26/10


BHO would be a good president expect for a few facts: he is a lair, doesn't like the constitution, has his socialist agenda, pro-abortionist, likes to micro-manage everything. He has surrounded himself with radicals. Doesn't have one ounce of common sense. Maybe this is a wake up call for us.
Even in the best of times politicans both parties only vote in favor of the voters 29% of the time. That is not good enough. We have been out of touch with our gov or they have been out of touch with us.
---wayne on 3/26/10


larry -- I don't doubt it's Satan at work when either side uses profanity or racial slurs. (By the way the powder turned out to be harmless.The shot that broke Eric Canters window was shown to be an errant shot. (And maybe the "spit" was "errant spit" for all we know). When you don't KNOW who DID something it could be A. an angry opponent or B. someone trying to make opponents look bad.

A large percentage of the populace was against this health bill. Why the surprise when they still object? However, I think most of what the press reports is overblown.
Or do you still have faith in the media?
---Donna66 on 3/25/10


Eloy fyi...

1 )Obama was voted in by White People, so your Race card is invalid.

2) Jesus would have absolutely nothing to do with this Evil man. A man who not only advocate baby killing, but if they survive he advocates that the doctor kill them.

A man who hates G-d and wants "science in proper place" above G-d. Okay using baby stem cells

A man who promotes perverts and their Marriages.

A liar who is a godless Marxist taking away all our freedoms and destroying our country.

He just receive praise from you and Fidel Castro today. Castro knows who he is, but you are obviously ignorant of the facts

You're in good company in who you truly love and worship..."Profess Christian"
---John on 3/25/10


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Eloy on 03/25/2010
You said a mouthful of nothing but the truth- especially the sentence about why he is hated.
Amen and Amen
---pg1 on 3/25/10


larry-- name calling (N-word, F-word)have deteriorated to threats against Congress members, destruction of offices and threats by an NRA member of 3-million muzzles ready to go?
---larry on 3/24/10
Do you have any evidence to back up these claims?
At least one "Tea Party" group I've heard of is offering to send $10000 to the American Negro College Fund if any body can prove (with video or audio) that any of their members have used racial slurs in their protests.
---Donna66 on 3/25/10


Where did this come from? Did you see or hear this or did you just hear sombody else say this happened? Are there any videos of people using foul language or destroying offices?
---Donna66 on 3/24/10

There were four independent confirmations on the N word and Emanuel Cleaver did not imagine spit on his face. Its gotten worse this afternoon with FBI racing to Anthony Weiner's office for a package with white powder.
Meanwhile Republican Eric Cantor had his window shot out this week.
Its not about an attack on your ideology Donna66, its about Satan who is busy in both camps and Christians who are asleep at the wheel.
---larry on 3/25/10


Yes! I am delighted that America has finally voted in a president which is helping the people. The prejudiced people whom hate him should pack their bags and get out of the country. The hatemongers hate him because he is black, and because he actually is keeping his words that he promised the people when he ran for election. He said he would correct the messed up health care system, and he is Doing exactly what he promised: which is unlike most of the politicians whom had gone on before him who made empty promises only so the people would vote them in. God Bless President Barak Obama Real Good in Jesus Name, and Jesus, help guide the President with your wisdom to help restore the American land, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, in Jesus we pray. Amen.
---Eloy on 3/25/10


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Could it be that John doesn't understand the difference between Communism and a dictatorship?

Not all dictatorships are Communist.
---Cluny on 3/25/10


Why does Obamacare exempt some in Congress and the White House from having to buy the same health care plans that the law forces other Americans to purchase: President Obama, Vice President Biden, Cabinet members, top White House staff, congressional committee staff and leadership staff, such as those who work for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)?
---John on 3/25/10


I heard 8 Republicans did not vote on the bill.

Who were they?

We need to contact them as the bill has been sent back to the House.

They can overturn this coup attempt.
---John on 3/25/10


John.

In the UK we have compulsory National Health Service, and we are not a Communist Nation.

Unless of course I have missed the gulags, "disappearances", torture, class murder, which are the hallmarks of PURE COMMUNISM.
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/25/10


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You're stats ARE misleading. The 14.5% who do not take the financial responsibility are lawbreakers, plan and simple.
---NurseRobert on 3/24/10

That's my point, NurseRobert. They ARE lawbrakers. The SAME will happen with healthcare. Those who can't afford to purchase health insurance, or who don't want to, won't. They will be lawbreakers also. How terrible - you are a lawbreaker if you can't afford health insurance!!

Those of us with health insurance have been, and always will be, paying for those who don't have it. But now, IN ADDITION, we will pay higher taxes, higher health insurance premiums, etc. And now the government will decide what care we can get. This is a sad situation for this country.
---Gary on 3/24/10


larry--
Can you see how Satan has got his foot in the door where name calling (N-word, F-word)have deteriorated to threats against Congress members, destruction of offices and threats by an NRA member of 3-million muzzles ready to go?

Where did this come from? Did you see or hear this or did you just hear sombody else say this happened? Are there any videos of people using foul language or destroying offices?
---Donna66 on 3/24/10


\\The reason auto insurance is Mandatory in SOME states is because people other than yourself may be injured or suffer property lose. Health insurance is only for you.
Again its only a state regulation, not federal. Who have no jurisdiction on insurance.

DON'T COMPARE APPLES AND ORANGES!

To force a citizen to buy a product and to fine him for just refusing to do so. Fined for just sitting at home.

IS PURE COMMUNISM!
---John on 3/24/10\\

Obviously, John, you have NO idea what Communism is or how it work.

For one thing, generally in Communist nations, there are NOT things to buy. Supply and distribution are very poor.
---Cluny on 3/24/10


You're states ARE misleading. The 14.5% who do not take the financial responsibility are lawbreakers, plan and simple.

Secondly, its not your insurance company, its your state that requires no-fault. This also protects YOU from the lawbreakers who don't have the insurance.
---NurseRobert on 3/24/10


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What's in it? What does it say? I have no clue. Do you?
---Donna5535 on 3/24/10


It is unconstitional for the federal government to force Americans to buy a product.

The audacity of them to fine someone for just sitting in their house. If they are allowed to force you to buy Health Insurance or be fime $700.

Then the Obama regime will force you to buy cars and ALL products of THEIR choice only!

WE ARE NOW A COMMUNIST NATION!!!
---john on 3/24/10


Passing of any kind of bill makes me neither happy nor unhappy. My happiness comes from the Lord. If you don't think that the Lord will provide for HIS people, talk to some Christians who lived through the Great Depression (the first one, that is).
---KarenD on 3/24/10



You gotta love Karen who brings us back to where believers should be. Biblical wisdom once again trumps the circular political arguments between liberals and the wing nuts.
Can you see how Satan has got his foot in the door where name calling (N-word, F-word)have deteriorated to threats against Congress members, destruction of offices and threats by an NRA member of 3-million muzzles ready to go?
---larry on 3/24/10


The reason auto insurance is Mandatory in SOME states is because people other than yourself may be injured or suffer property lose. Health insurance is only for you.
Again its only a state regulation, not federal. Who have no jurisdiction on insurance.

DON'T COMPARE APPLES AND ORANGES!

To force a citizen to buy a product and to fine him for just refusing to do so. Fined for just sitting at home.

IS PURE COMMUNISM!
---John on 3/24/10


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Gary, Your statistics are misleading. Are you insinuating that people don't have to be financially responsible for any accidents? ---NurseRobert on 3/24/10

The stats are not misleading. 14.5% of those REQUIRED to have auto insurance OR be financially responsible DO NOT and ARE NOT. They drive without insurance, and have NO funds to pay when they are in an accident. That is why my insurance company REQUIRES ME to pay for NON-INSURED MOTORISTS. What a joke. I have to pay for non-insured motorists even though they are required to have insurance.

I bet most people on this blog know someone who has been in an accident where the other driver had no insurance OR money to pay for the damages.
---Gary on 3/24/10


Interesting point, the HC bill passed by only 7 votes. The news reports say that the Republicans voted unanimously, but, they neglect to tell us that 8 Republicans chose not to vote. Had they voted in alignment with their party, this bill would not have passed, so, their "non-vote" was the same as a PRO-vote. If they haven't already been identified, someone should find out who they were and publicize this information.
---tommy7376 on 3/24/10


harry reid said, "this HC law is a good law but will be made better". I have to ask why couldn't they make it better in the first place? The reason nobody knows whats in this law is because all of it is subject to change and or interpation. It's a bottomless pit. Has this gov gone mad?
wayne5363
---wayne on 3/24/10


the constitution says that governments instituted by the CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED...
---tom2 on 3/24/10

Actually, no it doesn't. That's in the Declaration of Independence. Furthermore, our government was set up to protect EVERY citizen, not just those who hold the majority opinion. This is not a "majority rules" government.

Also, interesting to note, a Gallup poll out yesterday shows more people now agree with the bill, idea than disagree with it.
---NurseRobert on 3/24/10


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States have filed, and many more are preparing to file federal lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of this new legislation. If the courts find this law constitutional it will be the end of the formerly free Republic of the USA.

The nation will continue, but the citizens will have become subjects who are required to follow the orders of the government.

This is only the first step anyway. This law is only temporary because nothing will work out the way it is being presented and the next step will be for the government to say the only way to "really" fix health care for good is for a single payer government system, which is really the end goal. It's a major loss for liberty and victory for tyrannical control.
---ralph7477 on 3/24/10


Statistics show that 14.5% of drivers who live in states that require auto insurance don't have it,....---Gary on 3/23/10

Gary, Your statistics are misleading. Are you insinuating that people don't have to be financially responsible for any accidents? Only 2 states don't "require auto insurance" (WI and NH). The DO, however, require that you meet financial responsibility through a bond or some other way which shows you are able to pay if you cause damages to another person/property in an automobile accident.

Furthermore, the bill provides ways for people to obtain insurance, through government assistance for health insurance.
---NurseRobert on 3/24/10


Gary, you and Donna are right on.
Also BHO made the statement that"If the HC bill is not passed this country will go broke in 5 years". Now one has to ask, is this to make money for the gov, or do they really care about our health? A good insight into gov HC would be to look at the VA hospitals and how the patients are treated, and the conditions the hospitals are in. The gov denies more claims than the PIC'S. Don't doubt me.
wayne 5363
---wayne on 3/24/10


Gary, you've made some very good points.

I hope your concern about quality of health care going down does not come true.
---Cluny on 3/24/10


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Passing of any kind of bill makes me neither happy nor unhappy. My happiness comes from the Lord. If you don't think that the Lord will provide for HIS people, talk to some Christians who lived through the Great Depression (the first one, that is).
---KarenD on 3/24/10


the constitution says that governments instituted by the CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED,the majority of americans have said they dont want this plan,yet obama has signed into law a plan which in my opinion is illegal because of this fact.
---tom2 on 3/24/10


Our government showed us how ignorant our leaders are when we were told there would be NO real estate meltdown. Don't worry. That is what we were told.

Now we are told Obamacare will lower the cost of medical insurance. Not only will medical insurance go up (it has to), but there will now be a shortage of doctors, nurses, etc. Longer waits in the waiting room. Quality of care will go DOWN for all of us.

Statistics show that 14.5% of drivers who live in states that require auto insurance don't have it, and 15% in those same states don't have health insurance. Reason given - they can't afford it. Obamacare doesn't GIVE free health insurance. Most of those 15% STILL won't be able to afford health insurance.
---Gary on 3/23/10


\\This is the a Marxist coup by any definition. \\

How is the passage of this health care bill a Marxist coup, John?

Please give appropriate citations from the writings of Karl Marx.

Do you even know the meaning of his basic philosophy, dialectical materialism? (I wasn't going to ask you its name, because most people don't.)

Otherwise, you are just spouting rhetoric and simply prove you don't know what you're talking about.
---Cluny on 3/23/10


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Well, a penny for my thoughts because I predicted it would not pass and ironically the Pro-Life caucus, which is 12 democrats not republicans, are to be given credit or blame.

If you don't have health care and can't afford Cobra you now have hope.
If your a student who wants to stay on your folks plan you now have hope.
If your a woman who buys her health care independently it will no longer be legal to charge a woman more simply because she is a woman.
You can buy across state lines in the national exchange.


If you have health care and could give a rip about those who don't your biggest concern is cost. Tax increases are on the way for those who are well off for sure.

There is a ying and a yang.
---larry on 3/23/10


NOT happy. Our troubles are just beginning. The government will now control almost half the economy. We now know what Obama REALLY meant by CHANGE!

He's on a roll now. Get set for more, "You'd like it if you understood it", "We'll pass it so you can see what's in it." " Have I read it? OH no, I'm too busy" "The American people don't care about PROCESS".
If the bill was so good, why did the party with a majority of votes, have such a time passing it?

The present bill is unconstitutional. The most important way is illegally forcing Americans to buy a product they may not want. But I predict all challenges will fail. The government, from Congress to the Supreme court, wants the MONEY.
---Donna66 on 3/23/10


I read that the battle for health care legislation will continue with multiple ammendments being proposed.

What we have now is not the final product but I have faith those in governmnent will be able to iron out the bad parts found in the present bill.

Healthcare eats up around 17 percent of our gross national product and with continual rising fees, our entire economy will be controlled by the healthcare industry.

Thus I believe our Congress did the right thing last Sunday.

When my son sprained his wrist, his insurance paid $800 and they wanted $400 more. Refusing to discuss the bill with me, they simply turned it over to a collection agency. My attorney got them to drop the charges, and fix my credit report.
---Lee1538 on 3/23/10


Oh, they actually passed one? Maybe that has something to do with the fact that I kept getting a busy signal, today, while I was trying to call a doctor's office about switching to a lower-income health care plan they accept.

They are doing what is their nature to do. No reasoning or facts will turn someone whose character is set on what they want. Isn't this true of all of us? They're just the tip of the iceberg of what ones of this worldly culture do. Just like in dealing with the Bible? Pick and choose and interpret according to what one has already decided.

Jobs have been sent overseas. So, who works to pay for it?
---Bill_bila5659 on 3/23/10


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DON'T BE SO NAIVE! OR IS THIS WILLFUL IGNORANCE!

This is the a Marxist coup by any definition.

We now have a one party system in America. A party that now knows it can do as it pleases without votes and against the will overwhelming majority of Americans.

DO YOU SINCERELY THINK THE YARE INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Will you think that when the next law TOTAL AMNISTY FOR ILLEGALS gets passed the same way and the Marxist will then have total power FOREVER WITH THE ADDITIONAL 30 MILLION NON AMERICAN VOTES.

That is their intent and goal. Nancy Pelosi and Obama have said so since the beginning. Americans are not listening!

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---John on 3/23/10


I don't know if the people who voted for this "legislation" had any ill intent, or simply thought that they knew better what we need than we do ourselves. Either way, this legislation is going to be a very expensive mistake, perhaps even exceeding the perceived magnitude of "Seward's Folly." I am not putting my confidence in any group of men from any of the political parties, but in Christ alone.
---tommy3007 on 3/23/10


I'm not going to accuse anyone who wrote or sponsored or voted for this bill of malicious intentions or bad will, but I think it's going to create unexpected problems.
---Cluny on 3/23/10


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