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Obama's Microchipping Healthcare

Obama's Healthcare is the start of New World Order (making money bad so you have to start a new currentcy), and of Mark of the Beast (microchipping people by order of their health plan). What do you think?

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Donna, my apologies if I meant it sounded like that - it is just that I HEAR more about that (orphans, widows, foreigners in particular) from the left than from the right.

How people to the political right act, in terms of giving, I cannot know because I am not in the US.

About the left wanting to spend other people's money, I can see that in Europe, that is certainly true!

If I appeared to be arguing with you, my apologies, that was NOT my intent
---peter3594 on 4/19/10


peter--but His comassion (sic) for the orphans, widows, foreigners, does not sound right-wing to me..

That's because you think people on the right lack compassion. Statistics have shown that, even when income is taken into account, conservatives give more to the disadvantaged than do liberals. But most conservatives think it unseemly to broadcast their giving or be "preachy" about it. But they DO like to choose for themselves, to whom they will give.

It seem to me that often when liberals display their compassion, they are most often talking about how others should spend money. Even taxes are mostly "sombody else's" money.
---Donna66 on 4/18/10


Donna, I agree, Jesus cannot be classed politically.

Morally, he is right-wing [we know that], but His comassion for the orphans, widows, foreigners, does not sound right-wing to me. We must consider each policy separately, and then consider whether it is Christian or not.

I actually like Obama's idea of letting more immigrants in, even making then citizens - after all, the US is a nation of immigrants - almost all of us came in from some other country, as immigrants [even my parents]
---peter3594 on 4/18/10


\\CNN will not release the video.

Any comments?
---John on 4/16/1\\

John, what does this have to do with the subject of this thread?

The fireball is a meteor, not a missle.

Are you saying that CNN has a moral duty to release the video? If CNN owns the copyright to a video, they can do with it what they please.

And what do you mean by "release the video". To whom are they supposed to release it?

You can many videos of this by searching for "fireball in sky"--and they are longer than 28 sec.

John, paranoia is NOT a Christian value.
---Cluny on 4/17/10


I think it's a trend. Just stay close to God. My only advice. The Bible is true. Anyone who really knows God, knows that the Bible is true.
---catherine on 4/16/10




FIREBALL OVER THE MIDWEST..

What is it! is the question? The video at link is already frozen at 26 seconds, and it appears to be a fired missile hitting whatever it is. With another missile still in pursuit. Has anyone seen this? Why missile test over the Midwest if that is what this is?

CNN will not release the video.

Any comments?
---John on 4/16/10



Jesus He is not left nor right.. He is not a Socialist! Nor is He a free-market Conservative!

We SHOULD subject our political views (and ALL OTHERS) to the scrutiny of the Word Of God. But we needn't become indifferent to the world, or neglect our precious right to vote..

Jesus asked the HS Jhn 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
Jhn 17:18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
---Donna^^ on 4/15/10


Leslie, where DO YOU get all these wierd ideas? Think of an even better blog next time!
---peter3594 on 4/15/10


\\And please understand that religious conservatives are not the same thing as Christians.
Despite appeals to Christian reasoning by Cluny and others this is very embarrassing.
---larry on 4/13/10\\

Thank you, larry.

Jesus did NOT say, "By this shall all know you are My disciples: if you have the proper conservative politics."

In fact, He said, "My Kingdom is NOT of this world."

Using politics to fulfill a spiritual agenda (or worse, confusing the two) is precisely one of the temptations that Jesus rejected--but cultural conservatives have fallen for.
---Cluny on 4/13/10


Atheist, your head must be spinning and saying they know we are Christians by our love, huh?

Please understand that just because people believe in Jesus does not mean they are filled with the Holy Spirit in speech and discernment.
The question posted above is the perfect example.
Christians without the holy spirit are just as mean and hateful as anyone else. Don't for one second believe this behavior reflects the life and teachings of a homeless Palestinian Jew named Yeshua.

And please understand that religious conservatives are not the same thing as Christians.
Despite appeals to Christian reasoning by Cluny and others this is very embarrassing.
---larry on 4/13/10




\\You're fine with the "seemingly" unpoisoned % of poser. If there is a %.\\

Actually, you're projecting.

I'm rejecting the entire glass of half-truths BECAUSE it is mixed with the poison of lies.

You are drinking deeply of this draft on the ground that it contains half-facts.
---Cluny on 4/13/10


Would you drink a glass of something that was half water and only half poison? Would you defend this beverage on the grounds that is was half water?---Cluny on 4/13/10

You make my case. With my analogy. Christs men should not drink from posers tainted cup at all. You're fine with the "seemingly" unpoisoned % of poser. If there is a %.
Word whipping those 1/2 truths,a noble work. Plow under those annoying weeds for poser in his royal garden.
Illuminate that "factual" poser perversion/abortion, socialistic poison is still poison too then. Lukewarm, is not hot or cold.....for a cause. It is not apparent you are as hot for the truths as for the untruths.
---Trav on 4/13/10


\\Are you saying that just because Obama supports abortion that it is justified to tell lies and half-truths about him?
---Cluny on 4/12/10

Did you see me say that? No.

Is opposing/exposing 1/2 truths worth more that exposing/establishing 1/2 facts?\\

And do you think you are the only one here whom I am addressing?

Would you drink a glass of something that was half water and only half poison? Would you defend this beverage on the grounds that is was half water?

A half-fact is STILL a half-lie.

In any case, as I've pointed out, the person who started this blog to start with is believing that what originally started as a parody and joke is the truth.
---Cluny on 4/13/10


Are you saying that just because Obama supports abortion that it is justified to tell lies and half-truths about him?
---Cluny on 4/12/10

Did you see me say that? No.

Is opposing/exposing 1/2 truths worth more that exposing/establishing 1/2 facts?

If you expose a 1/2 falsehood...does that mean the other half is factual?

Is the milk 1/2 bad or 1/2 good.

Will his 1/2 good, spare 1/2 of the aborted children.
You take a safe position. The foolish are few and chastised by you, swelling you and satisfying the followers of poser. You've done good work....for....who? To what result?
Proverbs 17:10
A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.
---Trav on 4/12/10


\\As subtley goes, snakes are subtle, but not huggable\\

Apparently, you didn't get the point of what I was saying.

When I said, that the distinction between "What you say about ABC is wrong" and "I agree 100% with ABC" is too subtle for some people to grasp, I was speaking ironically.

A mature mind and reasonably intelligent person can see the difference between the two statements immediately.

But apparently too many people here cannot.
---Cluny on 4/12/10


\\If you want to succeed in being subtle point to the horror of what he represents.\\

Are you saying that just because Obama supports abortion that it is justified to tell lies and half-truths about him?
---Cluny on 4/12/10


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I've already talked about my pro-life work, .. need no certificate of approval from you or anyone else.

distinction that seems to be too subtle for some people to grasp.
---Cluny on 4/11/10

As subtley goes, snakes are subtle, but not huggable.
When it is hard to tell the difference where a person stands.....mistakes can be made. Your "past" work is admirable. Certificates....who offered one. I give you a glimpse, of what what not clear. A view of what you look like defending the indenfensible against 1/2 truths. If you want to succeed in being subtle point to the horror of what he represents. Then we will know who you plow with. We don't need a subtle genius like youself to point out the nonsense.
---Trav on 4/12/10


\\Youself, taking position of defending him against 1/2 truths is noble? Your defense of the defenseless would be more honorable.
---Trav on 4/11/10\\

I've already talked about my pro-life work, and what I've borne in defending the defenseless. I need no certificate of approval from you or anyone else.

The real question is why people are telling and rejoicing in half-truths, untruths, and even absurd stories about Obama or anybody else they don't like.

To repeat what I just said, saying "What you say about Mr. XYZ is false and not supported by the facts," is NOT the same thing as saying, "I agree 100% with Mr. XYZ."

This is a distinction that seems to be too subtle for some people to grasp.
---Cluny on 4/11/10


I have found the origin of Leslie's concerns above.

It's in an April 2007 posting on a site called The Spoof, only according this site, Obama (supposedly) criticized Bush for wanting to do this. Supposedly the implants would pollute the earth when those bearing them were buried.

In other words, people: IT'S A JOKE. It's NOT REAL.
---Cluny on 4/11/10


\\New World Order is SIMPLY last and final resurrection of holy roman empire as foretold in prophecy\\

To see anything in prophecy is to make the totally false and unfounded assumption that the Roman Empire, and by extension Western Europe or the United States, have any prophetic or spiritual significance whatsoever.

John, you seem to think, as one person put it, that when someone points out that your claims about Mr. XYZ (whoever) are not supported by facts, that that someone is actually defending XYZ.

Again, childish thinking.
---Cluny on 4/11/10


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Trav, do you really expect me to believe that you personally know millions of people who worship Obama?
---Cluny on 4/9/10

Ha, personally on a person to person basis, no. Good point. I know that, millions r defending/voting with the poser even after they know his moral and muslim tilt...in a reverent sense "worship" his fictional righteous deliverance....from whatever.

Poser, (facts)is on record/recorded video,and in writing/voting supporting both abortion, and the perverts. jeremiah wrong, & cone head should be enough to leper him.
Youself, taking position of defending him against 1/2 truths is noble? Your defense of the defenseless would be more honorable.
---Trav on 4/11/10


Half your posts are delected [sic]? Are you trying to say that they don't get posted here on the blogs?

NOW who's playing the victim card, John?

---Cluny on 4/10/10

That's the point Cluny. I never complained about it, Nurse Roberts did!
---John on 4/10/10


\\And as you say...WHERE's THE PROOF OF THIS CENSORSHIP. 1/2 of my posts are delected. I'm a Conservative.

Sorry put your Liberal VICTIM card back n the bag.

CLUNY NOTE WHO YOUR ALLIES ARE!
---John on 4/10/10\\

Half your posts are delected [sic]? Are you trying to say that they don't get posted here on the blogs?

NOW who's playing the victim card, John?

The very fact you post lies and innuendoes against me and revoke your supposed apology about them says more about me than about you.
---Cluny on 4/10/10


microchipping? microchipping began with social security card and cataloged with every transaction you do on plastic or by check even on the internet

True Christians understand they pray to have Gods will done ...New World Order is SIMPLY last and final resurrection of holy roman empire as foretold in prophecy - final season of rulership before the return of Christ to rule the earth with sons of God resurrected to eternal life

the MARK is worship ..it has nothing to do with your physical body it is in your mind WHO you bow down to AND your hand of work WHICH day you observe as HOLY each week ...either Gods Holy Sabbath Day or RCC's suns-day

either way Europe has not united yet under the pope so we are a ways off
---Rhonda on 4/10/10


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If some people here dislike a someone--Obama, for example......---Cluny on 4/10/10

There are a number of people on these blogs who have no problem posting innuendos, falsehoods and outright lies. If you're conservative, post away, if you're liberal.. well, maybe it will and maybe it won't.
It's difficult to have any type of discussion if the moderators won't post your responses.
---NurseRobert on 4/10/10

Sound like Lies and innuendos from you are OK.

And as you say...WHERE's THE PROOF OF THIS CENSORSHIP. 1/2 of my posts are delected. I'm a Conservative.

Sorry put your Liberal VICTIM card back n the bag.

CLUNY NOTE WHO YOUR ALLIES ARE!
---John on 4/10/10


Cluny ... it is common here.

I think those people, if there was someone with whom they disagreed on some article of doctrine, would then stand idly by if that person were wrongly accused of murder.
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/10/10


\\Yet post after post, he Vehemately and Pasionately defends the Religious Cult of Liberalism and his true Messiah.\\

My only messiah is our Lord, God, and Saviour Jesus Christ.

What's liberal and what's conservative depends on how you draw your charts.

If you think I'm defending Obama, be specific in saying how you think I'm defending him.

I'm not defending anything, unless you think that pointing out childish and absurd attacks against something is the same thing as defending that something.

But that, in itself, is childish and absurd thinking.
---Cluny on 4/10/10


If some people here dislike a someone--Obama, for example......---Cluny on 4/10/10

Very true, Cluny... There are a number of people on these blogs who have no problem posting innuendos, falsehoods and outright lies. Then there are those who absolutely believe these things.

I have also noted a stark difference in what gets posted and what is deleted, or falls into a black hole. If you're conservative, post away, if you're liberal.. well, maybe it will and maybe it won't.

It's difficult to have any type of discussion if the moderators won't post your responses.
---NurseRobert on 4/10/10


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The Provost Marshal (head of the military police) has served Obama with papers (ending generations of war without HONOR). The governors of the states were legally ousted from office as 'not serving the people' (the military is on board with this).

The people of each state will now decide if they want healthcare. Give it time (a week or so). But, if you want to go through life as a naysayer, Cluny, you are your own worst enemy.
---more_excellent_way on 4/10/10


CLUNY claims he is a conservative, Christian and supposedly voted for McCain and was supposedly sued for being Pro-life.

Yet post after post, he Vehemately and Pasionately defends the Religious Cult of Liberalism and his true Messiah.

So who do you think HE truly worships???
---John on 4/9/10


Thinking some more about Trav's posting to me, I've noticed something on these blogs.

If some people here dislike a someone--Obama, for example--they seem to think they have the right to post ANYTHING about him, no matter how slanderous or even absurd. (This very blog is a case in point.)

Then, when you point out the absurdity or untruth of the charge, you are accused of DEFENDING him.

I guess some Christians think that "Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor" doesn't apply if their neighbor is simply someone they don't like.
---Cluny on 4/10/10


\\I can give you a number in the millions. I can give you three here...and a legalistic defender right now.
Cluny...think about who you are plowing with here in defending the poser. \\

Trav, do you really expect me to believe that you personally know millions of people who worship Obama?

And how exactly am I defending him? Please be specific.

If it's any of your business, I did not vote for Obama for president, and will not should he run again.
---Cluny on 4/9/10


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catherine, I don't know anybody who worships Obama.
How many people do you personally know who worship him?
Can you give us a number?
---Cluny on 4/9/10

I can give you a number in the millions. I can give you three here...and a legalistic defender right now.
Cluny...think about who you are plowing with here in defending the poser. A noted abortion proponent. Even of his own daughters! A perversion upholder and defender...actually an activist for.
Luke 11:23
He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.

Are you scattering? Have you forgotten when to dust feet? If you are upholding a racial thing....is this worth the price of being spued out?
---Trav on 4/9/10


How many people do you personally know who worship him?

Can you give us a number?
---Cluny on 4/9/10

Well I know one..... CLUNY!
---John on 4/9/10


Of course Cluny, you forgot to mention the 2 star General.
Didn't you.

And a Lt. Colonel is a High Ranking Officer.

Non commison officers are Sgt. Corporal and below.
---John on 4/9/10


I am convinced this question is an attempt to win the dumbest blog question ever contest that was opened weeks ago.
Good grief.
---larry on 4/9/10


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\\Where I posted articles of High Ranking Officers are now refusing to obey orders.\\

John, ONE Lt. Col. (not even a full colonel, mind you) is NOT a high-ranking officer.

\\Stop worshiping man. Don't trust the wicked man. You don't believe me? Fine, you'll SEE!
---catherine on 4/9/10\\

catherine, I don't know anybody who worships Obama.

How many people do you personally know who worship him?

Can you give us a number?
---Cluny on 4/9/10


Stop worshiping man. Don't trust the wicked man. You don't believe me? Fine, you'll SEE!
---catherine on 4/9/10


More Excellent Way.

That seems to go along with the Posts I made on the "Is Obama From Outer Space Blog"

Where I posted articles of High Ranking Officers are now refusing to obey orders. And none have been Court martial. In fact Obama has back down and resended their orders. So he would not have to provide proof of his citizenship.

I believe the flood gates are about to open!
---JOHN on 4/9/10


\\The "Guardians of the Free Republics" have gotten the U.S. military to serve papers to Obama informing him that he is no longer their commander in chief.\\

Is this a joke?

The US Military does NOT serve legal papers. This is done by process servers, who work for courts or for attorneys.

\\Look it up online (it does not seem to be a hoax\\

As we all know, everything you see on line is always 100% trustworthy.

Here's a tidbit from GotFR's own website. Draw your own conclusions:

**End tax prosecutions for resisting the transfer of private wealth to foreign banking cartels such as I.R.S. (former Puerto Rico Bureau of Taxation).**
---Cluny on 4/9/10


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The "Guardians of the Free Republics" have gotten the U.S. military to serve papers to Obama informing him that he is no longer their commander in chief. They have also served legal papers to all of the governors in America that we are now under "De Jour" law/authority (there is no more official Federal government in the U.S.).

Look it up online (it does not seem to be a hoax),....and look on youtube for more explanation.

Also look on youtube for "Obama's C.I.A. and Columbia University connection.

His health and chip plans will probably be overturned.
---more_excellent_way on 4/8/10


this question is indirectly stating that obama is the anti christ.
is he?
anti christ means in place of, a substitute
---mike on 3/31/10

Anti-Mike. Would that mean against what Mike is for? Anti. Against.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Atheist are Anti-GOD, so they would be Anti-Christ. Jews are Pro GOD, yet Anti Christ. They do not believe and teach him as false.

The Kenyan, poser,confesses he is muslim at heart. Muslims...do not believe Christ is the Annointed. And Christians are infidels. Anti Christ? Dirtier the more,being rev wrong(wrights) apostle for many years.
---Trav on 4/7/10


Kevin: You say we've been micro-chipping animals for years, & are basically asking what the big deal is. The big deal is this, the anti-christ will place a chip with all your info and his mark in your right hand or forehead...thanks, but no thanks. Personally I do not believe in micro-chipping anyone, animal, or human.
All the info on taking his mark is right in front of us in Revelation...I don't know how you could ask that question, as a christian.
---Angel on 4/6/10


God will neither force Mr. Obama to seek wisdom, nor submit to the Lord's will, Romans 1:18-2:11, Jude 1:14-16. It is wrong to support any political platform, and ignore any faults therein. By some of your reactions and the use of sophistry, you are worshiping Mr. Obama, Isaiah 41:28-29, 1Corinthians 1:29, 3:18-21, 6:9-10, James 4:1-6.
Atheist: A RFID chip could be injected for less than a vaccination, and a nano-chip could be included in any vaccination.
Eloy: why would Mima particularly have to ask Mr. Obama (or Mr. Bush, or Mr. Castro, or Mr. Chavez), rather than make a judgment based on a man's actions, principles, and statements - i.e. clear evidence.
---Glenn on 4/2/10


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\\I understand those who use their faith for comfort, but those who use it to drive their paranoia---I just don't get it.
---atheist on 4/1/10\\

Exactly. The Bible says, "God has not given us a spirit of fear."

\\the 10 kings in scripture may actually be from outside the WEU, but refer to a "military alliance" against Israel.
Guess how many members the WEU now has in its military alliance? Yup, 10.
---larry on 4/1/10

larry, your statement assumes that Western Europe has some kind of prophetic or spiritual significance. It doesn't.
---Cluny on 4/1/10


Cluny,

Yes I know. Just trying to deal with it as best I can. Maybe some hyperbolic humor might bring reason to some?

I understand those who use their faith for comfort, but those who use it to drive their paranoia---I just don't get it.
---atheist on 4/1/10


Did you know that the EU has 27 members, not 10?
Now how does this fit into your apocalyptic paradigm?
---Cluny on 4/1/10

Good afternoon Cluny,
by the time the end is near everything will come into focus exactly as holy scripture says it will. I don't care if the EU has 400 members now, the 10 kings in scripture may actually be from outside the WEU, but refer to a "military alliance" against Israel.
Guess how many members the WEU now has in its military alliance? Yup, 10.
---larry on 4/1/10


\\This microchipping thing has gotten way out of hand. Obama is trying to balance the budget (he must in order to get elected legally one more time---after that it won't matter),\\

Et reliqua.

atheist, there are a lot of pop-evangelicals who actually believe this garbage.
---Cluny on 4/1/10


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Donna,

Or no less a fantasy than believing George Bush left office with a balanced budget, and things weren't irretreiveably in the gutter when he left office.
---atheist on 4/1/10


Obama trying to balance the budget is no less a fantasy than People who are considered dangerous will be given DNA altering material that will make their heads glow on and off when certain sounds are made
---Donna66 on 4/1/10


This microchipping thing has gotten way out of hand. Obama is trying to balance the budget (he must in order to get elected legally one more time---after that it won't matter), and the production of microchips, their insertion, and the cost of scan machines is incredibly high. The current plan is barcode tattoos across the foreheads.
Data can be accessed with regular supermarket price scanners. Some code sequences will be easily identifiable visually so Christians can be spotted without scanners. People who are considered dangerous will be given DNA altering material that will make their heads glow on and off when certain sounds are made. These people will be shot from helocopters for target practice on pagan holidays.
---atheist on 4/1/10


\\Take your ideology and trash it... (love your tolerant attitude) Your scenario will start with the 10-member EU \\

Did you know that the EU has 27 members, not 10?

Now how does this fit into your apocalyptic paradigm?
---Cluny on 4/1/10


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larry--
Take your ideology and trash it... (love your tolerant attitude) Your scenario will start with the 10-member EU

Exactly. Those who watch the progress of the New World Order expect that the EU combined with the United Nations, will begin the formation of a one-world government which is a desire the UN has nurished since their inceptiom.
In fact, a Commission on Global Governance was formed in 1993, funded largely by the United Nations Development Program.
---Donna66 on 3/31/10


I am not an attorney, legislator, or congressman, but on the basis of what I've read and heard, this law was badly written, and will not accomplish what a lot of people who favor it expect.

It won't even go into full effect until 2014.
---Cluny on 3/31/10


Obama's Health-care Bill has caused him a great deal of unpopularity. The Anti-Christ will be loved by the masses and worshipped in place of God. He will be perceived as Saving the World not causing higher taxes. These chips may be signs of the coming events but is certainly not the Mark of the Beast. When a one takes the Mark, he will no longer be able to "buy or sell" and will be persecuted for not following the NEW WORLD RELIGION. It is a very clear cut event in which proclaimed Christians who take the Mark will understand what they have taken. It is not some illusive, hidden, secretive event where a Christian may not understand the consequenses. A Christian will KNOW if he accepts the Mark of the Beast.
---jody on 3/31/10


Obama's Health-care Bill has caused him a great deal of unpopularity. The Anti-Christ will be loved by the masses and worshipped in place of God. He will be perceived as Saving the World not causing higher taxes. These chips may be signs of the coming events but is certainly not the Mark of the Beast. When a one takes the Mark, he will no longer be able to "buy or sell" and will be persecuted for not following the NEW WORLD RELIGION. It is a very clear cut event in which proclaimed Christians who take the Mark will understand what they have taken. It is not some illusive, hidden, secretive event where a Christian may not understand the consequenses. A Christian will KNOW if he accepts the Mark of the Beast.
---jody on 3/31/10


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Since the entire bill has been read by so few people, certainly not those who voted for it, how will I find the answers to these questions?---Donna66 on 3/30/10

Donna, I'm surprised that an intelligent person like you can't find it and read it for yourself.

Look up HR3590 (Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act). Its a PDF file, a little over 2000 pages. Don't let that scare you though, its only has about 25 lines per page, wide margins and big type. Someone with your intelligence (and I'm not joking here, I see you as very intelligent), will have no problems understanding this bill.
---NurseRobert on 3/31/10


\\God calls them "BIG-SHOTS". I don't want God.....calling me big-shot.\\

Where did you get that idea, catherine?

The term "big shot" is nowhere in the Bible.
---Cluny on 3/31/10


this question is indirectly stating that obama is the anti christ.

is he?

anti christ means in place of, a substitute
---mike on 3/31/10


WE HAVE GOT TO WATCH OUT for these smart people, they will out-smart you! Ah Jesus, Ah Jesus. God calls them "BIG-SHOTS". I don't want God.....calling me big-shot. Ha, Ha. Ha. God looks and He waits, He knows. Who can understand Him, this invisible God? Come on Jesus.++
---catherine on 3/31/10


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\\AGREED the penalty for not buying insurance from the heavy hand of the IRS is scary. It was $750 for every individual but lowered to max of $1500 per family if you don't buy insurance.\\

The IRS does NOT sell insurance.

**What I find really scarry here is this: Obama has hired ome 30,000 extra IRS Agents to enforce everyone is paying for their health care. **

And where did you get this tidbit, a-kathr?

According to the Washinton Examiner, it's only 16,500.

I think you should show more discrimination about where you get your sensationalistic rumors.
---Cluny on 3/31/10


kathr4463 - AGREED the penalty for not buying insurance from the heavy hand of the IRS is scary. It was $750 for every individual but lowered to max of $1500 per family if you don't buy insurance.
Ironically insurance companies want the penalty returned to the original House proposed penalty of $3800 per family. Ouch!!!
Insurance companies are not your friend and what the president said will be a fee is really a tax.

Anyway my auto insurance is well over $3k and I guess we have no good choices.
Force everyone to pay or have those who "can" afford to pay also pay for those who won't pay. Either way that ambulance visit will be paid by taxpayers shared equally or not.
---larry on 3/30/10


There is no such thing as a New World Order. Electronics and Microchips and Computers have been around for a long time now, and it is nothing New. And as far as Order in the World, there has been a rapid decline of order in the world ever since the people neglected their praying and obedience to Jesus' Commandments.
---Eloy on 3/30/10

That about says it all.
---larry on 3/30/10


Leslie, a Boca Raton company has been making this chip since President Obama was in the Illinois Senate.

New World Order wing nuts have been pounding the table since membership in the tri-lateral commission was confirmed for President Carter and Daddy Bush.

The devaluation of the dollar is determined by those who trade and sell the bill. Its a promisory note and fiat currrency owned by the Federal Reserve not the USA. President Obama has little more to say about it than you do.

Take your ideology and trash it. Open your bible find Europe on a map and start over.
Your scenario will start with the 10-member EU and end in Jerusalem.
---larry on 3/30/10


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Kath4453 --What the IRS does if you owe taxes, is to ADD more to your debt in the way of interest and penalties. They send you notices, they call you on the phone, they garnish your pay, and eventually they take money out of your bank account.

I assume this is what will happen to people who don't buy health insurance.

(Also, unlike any other legal proceeding in the nation, you are assumed GUILTY unless you can prove yourself innocent.)
---Donna66 on 3/30/10


Since the entire bill has been read by so few people, certainly not those who voted for it, how will I find the answers to these questions?

Will we keep the principle that "ignorance of the law is no excuse" when determining guilt? Will someone condense the bill so that it makes sense to someone other than an ivy league lawyer? If not, how can one be anything BUT "ignorant"?

I understand that young people up to age 26 can be covered by their parents insurance. But what about the children of a 25 year old? Will it be required of grandparents to pay for their insurance too?
---Donna66 on 3/30/10


What I find really scarry here is this: Obama has hired ome 30,000 extra IRS Agents to enforce everyone is paying for their health care. It won't be an option.

What If someone can't pay their bill? Many today can't even hold onto their homes. WILL this NEW IRS come in and take way someone's home because they can't pay for their mandatory health care? Their going to have to pay for it one way or another...It may be your property!

If I don't have a car I'm not required to buy auto insurance. If I own my home outright I'm not required to own a home owners policy.( I'd be stupid not to)

This is very scarry....just one more way for Government to own and control!
---kathr4453 on 3/30/10


Nobody is going to read this anyways cause it's late. The moderators has already gone to bed, anyways. Nothing would surprise me in Obama and what he do! I hope that people who votes in this country in the future, please be CAREFUL.
---catherine on 3/29/10


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Look, my politics are just slightly left of Attila the Hun, Obama is not my favorite person. But even I, think this is a stretch.
It could happen someday, ANYTHING could happen someday. Jesus is our rock. I believe the NWO is around the corner, but Obama isn't the Antichrist.

(disclaimer: I'm kidding about Attila, in case this upset you)
---Donna66 on 3/30/10


seeing the humane society has been microchpping animals for years,why does microchipping people seem like such a conspiracy?
---kevin on 3/30/10


There is no such thing as a New World Order. Electronics and Microchips and Computers have been around for a long time now, and it is nothing New. And as far as Order in the World, there has been a rapid decline of order in the world ever since the people neglected their praying and obedience to Jesus' Commandments.
---Eloy on 3/30/10


I think you're way behind the times. That's what I think.

Social Security numbers, started with Social Security by Franklin Roosevelt, were considered by many to be the Mark of the Beast when instituted.

And remember when George Bush, father of the great Christian George W. Bush, talked a lot about the new world order?

Furthermore, Mary Relfe wrote two books about new currency systems (note the spelling) back in the 80's.

Where have you been living all this time, Leslie?
---Cluny on 3/30/10


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I think this is another wacky conspiracy theory with absolutely NO basis in fact..
---NurseRobert on 3/29/10


I think there are a lot of people here, including the one who wrote the question who need national healthcare so they can see someone to help them with the delusions.
---atheist on 3/29/10


All these wacky conspiracy theories are amusing and entertaining.
---ger.toshav on 3/29/10


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