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Is Prophetic Dance Biblical

I've been hearing a lot lately about something called "prophetic dance" which is being done in churches. Do you think this is something that is from God or from man?

Moderator - I don't like dance in church as too many of the women dancers perform in an inappropriate manner.

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Prophetic Dance IS Biblical. This is what David did. Anyone who says otherwise is NOT in line with the Bible. God created dance and music for HIS glory (to glorify Him). Satan just perverted it.
---Leslie on 4/13/10


Preaching, singing, and dancing are approved by God based on content, the persons intent, and never if He says to not do it. The type of dancing often done in Messianic Jewish services to show ones joy in the Lord is O.K. But too often, many dancers are self motivated, and don't glorify God. "Prophetic dance", like "prayer walking", as is done in Dominionist circles is fleshly and ineffective. The Prophetic dancing done mostly by women (and delicate men) in white costumes waving their hands around and pointing their toes is annoying. 2Corinthians 1:17, 10:3-5, Galatians 5:16-26, Ephesians 2:2-3, James 1:13-15, 1John 2:15-17.
---Glenn on 4/13/10


miche3754 * No I'm not forcing them NOT to come. I'm letting them make their own choice. My 8 and 16 yr old children choose to have prayer and such when they want to. I don' force anything on them. I just tell them the truth.

But Jesus said Let them come, but you are telling Jesus No, they are not old enough!


miche3754 * Its not water baptism that saves anyway.

1 Peter 3:21: "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...eight souls were saved by water."
---Ruben on 4/13/10


\\I'm letting them make their own choice.\\

Were 8 day old Jewish male babies allowed to make their own choice about whether or not to be circumcised?


\\Its not water baptism that saves anyway\\

Baptism doth also now save us I Peter 3:21

\\It is making the conscious decision to believe and follow Christ that saves. \\

This is the heresy of Pelagianism and autosoterism.
---Cluny on 4/13/10


If the dance is of GOD it will not be inappropriate there is nothing of GOD that is inappropriate my GOD is perfect.PS.18:30
---marjorie on 4/13/10




Church is supposed to be a place to worship God & learn His words & ways. It should not be a place of exhibitions or "entertainment". Men & women dancing in church is inappropriate behavior. Prophets don't need to dance to be heard.
---Betty on 4/13/10


Lyn....Welcome back, Rebecca!
---KarenD on 4/13/10


I got on this site to learn & to have fellowship with other CHRISTIANS. I understand we ALL sin daily, & NO ONE is Perfect.. EXCEPT for Jesus Christ.. But you people have got to be kidding me right? You talk terrible to one another. I have heard kinder words from my enemies.. If this is how you discuss God's Word.. NO THANK YOU.. I wonder how many others you drive away from Christianity? Are we not to help lead people to God? If this is your way then I am Sorry for you.. Lord Please Forgive Them, They No NOT What They Are Doing.. IN JESUS NAME..
---Lyn on 4/13/10


This say let the little children come.
HMMM, it doesn't say force them to believe something, so not support here either.
Key word it let, Ruben. It doesn't say force.
---miche3754 on 4/12/10

Aren't you forcing them not to come. Remember it says let .. so why are you stopping them....
---Ruben on 4/12/10

No I'm not forcing them NOT to come. I'm letting them make their own choice. My 8 and 16 yr old children choose to have prayer and such when they want to. I don' force anything on them. I just tell them the truth.
Its not water baptism that saves anyway. It is making the conscious decision to believe and follow Christ that saves.
Tell me how an infant can do that?
---miche3754 on 4/13/10


Ruben...You pervert the Word of God. That scripture is referring to the offspring of those who were hearing him speak on that day. And, Jesus did not say bring the little children to me to be baptized.
---KarenD on 4/12/10




\\Logos means WORD. The Spoken word of God which brought all things into existence.\\

If you think that LOGOS in John 1 means that the Father said something, then you totally miss the point of the passage.
---Cluny on 4/13/10


baptism? i thought I was going to get John the Baptist pirouetting for me here.
---aka_joseph on 4/12/10


This say let the little children come.
HMMM, it doesn't say force them to believe something, so not support here either.
Key word it let, Ruben. It doesn't say force.
---miche3754 on 4/12/10

Aren't you forcing them not to come. Remember it says let .. so why are you stopping them....
---Ruben on 4/12/10


//Acts 2:38 -39//---Ruben on 4/12/10

Ruben, This scripture does not support infant baptism. It tells of the inheritance that is passed through baptism of the Holy Spirit.
This comes from believing and accepting Christ NOT by water.

(Mt. 19:14)
---Ruben on 4/12/10

This say let the little children come.
HMMM, it doesn't say force them to believe something, so not support here either.
Key word it let, Ruben. It doesn't say force.
---miche3754 on 4/12/10


Cluny,

Logos means WORD. The Spoken word of God which brought all things into existence.

But like I said, if you aren't ready for the full meat of God's word, that is fine.
I have nothing against you or your religion.

If you believe Jesus plain words in the Bible, what do you do with his NOT so plain words? Because there are plenty of those too.
DO you ignore them? Or do you seek out what God's true meaning for them was?
Don't you believe that Jesus was God fully in in the flesh? I know I do.
His word says so.
---miche3754 on 4/12/10


Did you forget that you were the one who mentioned baptism first? By the way, do you have one scripture that supports the doctrine of infant baptism?
---KarenD on 4/12/10


Acts 2:38 -39

And Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him."

Let the little children come to me, and do not forbid them, for of such is the kingdom of heaven.(Mt. 19:14)
---Ruben on 4/12/10


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\\I believe before Christ was Christ, He was the LOGOS as the Bible says he is and was and will be.\\

And what do you think LOGOS means? This is the question I'm asking and that you are avoiding.

\\It IS not his actual flesh and blood we are to eat and drink because it is not that which saves us.\\

You believe what you want to believe. I'll believe Jesus's plain words in the Bible.
---Cluny on 4/12/10


Thank you mima, you are right millions have been taught this.
I understand. Jesus even tells us it is okay as long as they do it for the Lord.
If they aren't ready for that particular meat of the word, I am very okay with it and there are many things that I actually agree with Cluny in.
It does hurt to be constantly judged and picked on.
I have not ever said they are wrong. I have said they are still immature in some things and its true.
All I have ever asked is for them stop saying I am lying or speaking contrary to God's word. Go, check and see for themselves and grow in the Spirit of the Lord.
---miche3754 on 4/12/10


To miche and KarenD, as you know no person chooses where they will be born. I want to come to the defenseo of Cluny and his beliefs. Millons of the the in the world believe like he does. This is what they have been taught and they actually believe that there is salvation in baptism. So what can we do well we can deliver the message to them but we cannot force them to change their mind. The purpose of this message is to tell you you have done your job.
---mima on 4/12/10


Prophetic dance? what can a dancer prophesy that has not been prophesied.

"Nice to meet you...Jesus is it? just have a seat and let your flesh tingle. We want to do ...a secular dance...and if we put prophetic in front, we can do this in church now. If you flesh crawls instead of tingles just leave quietly while we enjoy our chocolate macchiato during the serm... Aw the sermon is done already... Do you want to go to Cracker Barrel and fellowship with us? After that we are having a bible study at our home cell while watching the big game. That guy in the end zone is a great worship leader. John 3:16! Oh, yeah! If you want to know how to be saved, just let the assistant to our associate youth minister's friend know."
---aka_joseph on 4/12/10


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CLuny,
Read Gen 3:15.

I believe before Christ was Christ, He was the LOGOS as the Bible says he is and was and will be.

It IS not his actual flesh and blood we are to eat and drink because it is not that which saves us.

God says that He is looking for a people who will worship him in SPIRIT and in Truth, and he will write his laws on their HEARTS.
How does God do this? Is it through bread and wine? NO.
It is through the Spirit of Christ and HIS Words that he has spoken which IS SPIRIT AND LIFE!
We are supposed to take the words that he said and let God write it on our hearts. We are supposed to have the Holy Spirit IN us. God says he comes to live in US when repent and believe.
---miche3754 on 4/12/10


Cluny...Did you forget that you were the one who mentioned baptism first? By the way, do you have one scripture that supports the doctrine of infant baptism?
---KarenD on 4/12/10


\\Cluny...Baptism of babies is in the same category as baptism for the dead. Totally false doctrines.
---KarenD on 4/11/10\\

You believe what you want to believe, and I'll believe the Bible.

Now, just what does infant baptism have to do with prophetic dance? Can you show a logical connection?
---Cluny on 4/11/10


Cluny...Baptism of babies is in the same category as baptism for the dead. Totally false doctrines.
---KarenD on 4/11/10


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\\Be a berean.
---miche3754 on 4/9/10 \\

I have, and nothing you say the Scriptures mean is so.
---Cluny on 4/9/10


Be a berean.
---miche3754 on 4/9/10


I am like the bereans, if you notice they were listening to Paul orally and then checking scripture to see what Paul was takling about is true. In the OT it does not mention who the Messiah is and so when he mention the name of Jesus Christ they would have to go back to the OT scripture like Isaiah 53:5 "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and with his stripes we are healed." and be able to put a name to it. You on the another hand are like the Thessalonians who before, they reject Paul teaching orally and 'WENT" on their own interpretation of the OT scriptures..Sounds familiar.
---Ruben on 4/9/10


\\1 Corinthians 10:4
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.\\

If you read this passage in context, it's a figure of Baptism and the Eucharist.

Furthermore, it's the reason for infant baptism and infant communion.

miche, do you think that the Word in John 1 is a synonym for the spoken or written word of the Bible or anything else?

Yes or no.
---Cluny on 4/9/10


Well Rueben, here ya go!

1 Corinthians 10:4
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

---kathr4453 on 4/9/10


Thanks Kathr,

The very next vesre Paul writes "But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.... Now these things were our examples," Read Psalms 78: 12-35 to see what Paul is talikng about!
---Ruben on 4/9/10


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Well Rueben, here ya go!

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

1 Corinthians 10:4
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Jeremiah 15:16
Thy words were found, and I did eat them, and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.
---kathr4453 on 4/9/10


I did give scripture, Ruben. You did not receive it and that is NOT my fault.
You can only receive what Christ allows you to receive when he feels you are ready.

He says he is the WORD became FLESH. He says that the WORDS he speaks, it those words that are spirit and life.
NOT plain bread and wine. That dinner was a metaphor for what Jesus was getting ready to do for us, Ruben. Didn't Jesus say he speaks in parables? Yep, sure did. Do your research, that is all I ask. Pray that God shows you if I am telling the truth. Try the Spirits. Be a berean. stop listening to man made doctrine and find out for yourself.
Until then, I will leave it because you need that to keep YOUR faith in God.
---miche3754 on 4/9/10


Ruben, Cluny

There is plenty of Scripture that backs up the Flesh= bread = WORD
and Blood = wine= Spirit.

---miche3754 on 4/9/10

So why did you not give us the scriptures?

Give me the scripture verses that Jesus said:

Whoso eateth my WORD, and drinketh my SPIRIT, hath eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

For my WORD is meat indeed, and my SPIRIT is drink indeed.
---Ruben on 4/9/10


Ruben, Cluny

There is plenty of Scripture that backs up the Flesh= bread = WORD
and Blood = wine= Spirit.

you are just too wrapped in your religions instead of seeking GOD first you have sought man made traditions.
Thats okay with me.
God says not to judge. Im sure that both of you are Christian. You don't have to share my views.
If you need these things to remain with God, then its okay. I was trying to give you meat of God's word, when you are obviously NOT ready. Thats my fault.
BUT, You still owe apology to Catherine for that lewd comment, Cluny.
You assumed she was talking about strip tease when she wasn't.
---miche3754 on 4/9/10


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\\As for the "Eucharist". You and your orthodox friends can keep practicing "cannibalism". \\

miche, did you know that one of the charges raised against Orthodox Christians by the Roman Empire and other pagans was Orthodox Christians ritual cannibalism?
---Cluny on 4/9/10


\\Ok! You go out on the streets and dance naked (except for an apron) and see if the police don't call that naked and indecent exposure!\\

I'd just get arrested for littering, myself.
---Cluny on 4/7/10


Ok! You go out on the streets and dance naked (except for an apron) and see if the police don't call that naked and indecent exposure!
---KarenD on 4/7/10


As for the "Eucharist". You and your orthodox friends can keep practicing "cannibalism". I will continue to eat of the word of GOD and drink of his Spirit so that I can continue to grow in grace and have a personal relationship with him.

---miche3754 on 4/7/10

But yet no where in scripture does Jesus say to eat his Word or drink his Spirit.

Notice in Luke 24:30-31 when the disciples eyes were open:

"And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.

"And their eyes were opened, and they knew him"

When Jesus said 'Take and eat it, This is my Body"
---Ruben on 4/7/10


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Miche,

Just because you call other Christians (who disagree with you) carnal Christians doesn't make it so. And just because you believe you are a Mature Christian doesn't make it so either. As far as the Holy Eucharist, I and others who follow in the footsteps of the Holy Apostles, there Holy Successors, and Early God-bearing Fathers, will continue to believe that we partake of the Holy Body and Blood of Christ under the appearance of Bread and Wine and there is nothing you can do about it.

I refuse to follow YOUR interpretation of Scriptures and private opinions above what the first generations of Christians taught. But I will respect your Protestant piety and traditions.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/7/10


David didn't dance before God naked. An Ephod is a garment which is an aporn. The directions to make it for the Priests say to make it of gold and fabric or fiber. For Priests it had jwewels on the shoulders where the front and back joined. There is a front piece and back piece,the length of the Priests was to the knee or midway of the thigh. Some speculate Davids came to the bottom of the hip. The Bible doesn't say if David was wearing anything under it. So the Ephod would cover all the front of David and all the back,it was open on the sides and kept on with a girdle which in the picture I saw looked like some type of belt which held front and back together. Michal who said he was naked. She was punished,by God,and had no children.
---Darlene_1 on 4/7/10


Miche,

"You really should try reading the blogs first."

And who said I didn't read the blogs? It is my fault that when people correct you, you get mad and refuse to yield to the correction? It is my fault that you can not grasp simple (elementary) grammar and thus you are in need of basic grammar lessons?

Geeze! Wow! And you want to call others carnal Christians when you have not mastered simple grammar skills?

The only people who will say Cluny said Catherine was pole dancing or strip-teasing are those who want to bear false witness or have not mastered basic grammar skills.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/7/10


I am not mad at you cluny and yes you did.
I posted what YOU said.
If you don't want to repent that is ON YOU.
As for the "Eucharist". You and your orthodox friends can keep practicing "cannibalism". I will continue to eat of the word of GOD and drink of his Spirit so that I can continue to grow in grace and have a personal relationship with him.
I don't need rituals or anything else to show me who God is and that he is Christ.
I don't need anything but God, Christ and their WORD and Spirit.
I haven't done any false witnessing. But Cluny did say Catherine was doing a striptease. It is here in black and white, sad really that you will cover a lie. But what do I expect from carnal Christians?
---miche3754 on 4/7/10


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David's dancing was NOT like strip-teasing or pole dancing, because the REASON for him wearing less was NOT to incite lust amoung others. Even though some people were offended, that was NOT David's intent, his intent was only to praise God, and thus it was very different from the pole dancing now, which is simply done to induce lust. There is a difference in the motive, and that is important to God.
---peter3594 on 4/7/10


Miche,

Agan, Cluny did not say Catherine was pole dancing nor strip-teasing, but that David's dancing was much like strip-teasing, and that during such today does NOT please God. This is grammar 101 sister. Geeze! No wonder many of my friends failed English in my High School! Such simple (elementary) grammar can not be grasp by some....Are you from the U.S miche? I can understand if English is your second language.

So yes, you did bore false witness and Cluny deserve a apology from you.

Cluny is right in rebuking you in the Name of Jesus!

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/7/10


\\Is that how you dance, catherine?

I don't think such exotic dancing (aka strip-tease) glorifies the Lord.
---Cluny on 4/1/10\\

Gramatically, "sucn exotic dancing" refers to how DAVID danced. All I did was to ask catherine if she followed David's example.

**Here is your proof, Ignatius. I left in the date so you can check. SO, I did NOT bare false witness. He just doesn't like being corrected.**

Yes, you did.

You bore false witness when you admitted that you changed my words to drag in pole dancing.

And you never apologize when you are proven wrong.

You're just mad because I rebuked you in the Name of Jesus for your false statements about the Eucharist.
---Cluny on 4/7/10


Is that how you dance, catherine?

I don't think such exotic dancing (aka strip-tease) glorifies the Lord.
---Cluny on 4/1/10

Here is your proof, Ignatius. I left in the date so you can check. SO, I did NOT bare false witness. He just doesn't like being corrected.
If I say something out of turn, I apology for it. What makes you or him think that you are above that?

You really should try reading the blogs first.

He owes Catherine an apology for his rude innuendo.
---miche3754 on 4/7/10


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". So why take that and apply to us today and make a tradition or religion out of it?

David also committed adultery! But we know it's not biblical to commit adultery. " (kathr)

Well it was Catherine that started the whole discussion, mentioning David's dancing. Other are SIMPLY stating facts concerning David's dancing. It seems that Catherine and others are trying to make a tradition or religion out of David's naked dancing.

Miche,

You did bear false witness. After reading Cluny posts, he did not say Catherine was pole dancing nor strip-teasing, but that David's dancing was much like strip-teasing, and that during such today does NOT please God. This is grammar 101 sister......

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/6/10


\\\\Actually censor can mean to change.\\

And the very fact you changed my words means that you chose to deliberately misquote me, thus bearing false witness against me.
---Cluny on 4/5/10

WHAT!?
You have got to be kidding me.

You insult a sister in Christ, I correct you for it, and it is MY FAULT!!??\\

You did not correct.

You deliberately changed my words, and attributed to me things I did not say.

Yes. You deliberately bore false witness against me.

And therefore, yes, that is YOUR fault.
---Cluny on 4/6/10


kathr4453...Let me put it in more plain English. The fact that David danced naked is in the Bible. The fact that David committed adultery is also in the Bible. I'm sorry if my simple statement that ---- "David danced naked! That's Biblical!" confused you. I forgot that people from other countries post on these blogs and sometimes misunderstand our posts. I was not telling people to go around dancing naked unless you are dancing in the shower!
---KarenD on 4/6/10


---- David danced naked! That's Biblical! That is not trash!
---KarenD on 4/2/10

KarenD are you saying it's Biblical to dance naked? Or that the Bible said David danced naked? I believe even David's wife was displeased that he did that. I too know that Olympians also preformed naked. David just returned from war, and won a battle...kind of like winning a Gold metal. How many of our soldiers dance naked after each battle? none that I've heard of. So why take that and apply to us today and make a tradition or religion out of it?

David also committed adultery! But we know it's not biblical to commit adultery.

Today, Dancing naked is trashy. Today, performing in the Olympics naked would be trashy too!
---kathr4453 on 4/6/10


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miche3754....Before you get any more angry over Cluny's comments to Catherine, please let me explain. Catherine has for the last couple of years stayed at home, preached to the four walls in her home, refused to attend church, created her own doctrine and religion, and totally refuses to listen to anyone on this site. She says that God told her not to go to church and to just preach to those four walls. When she talks about preaching behind a pulpit it is in her own living room. Cluny is trying to wake her up!
---KarenD on 4/6/10


\\Actually censor can mean to change.\\

And the very fact you changed my words means that you chose to deliberately misquote me, thus bearing false witness against me.
---Cluny on 4/5/10

WHAT!?
You have got to be kidding me.

You insult a sister in Christ, I correct you for it, and it is MY FAULT!!??
I did not deliberately misquote you.
You said Catherine was trying to do a striptease! I mean wow. You are supposed to be a Christian and able to bring every thought captive to Christ but NOOO, your mind was in the gutter. Shame on you.
Don't get mad at me, don't insult me, JUST APOLOGIZE TO HER FOR YOUR IMPURE TOWARDS HER INTENTIONS!
---miche3754 on 4/6/10


\\Actually censor can mean to change.\\

And the very fact you changed my words means that you chose to deliberately misquote me, thus bearing false witness against me.
---Cluny on 4/5/10


Actually censor can mean to change.
Haven't you ever watched a rated movie on public TV?
Where they say a curse word, they change it to something LESS in appropriate. That is what I did.

Why are you upset by me correcting you for insulting Catherine?
You said she was doing a strip tease!
How rude!
But you want so bad to throw blame on me.
Telling me I bare false witness?
Who is really? me or you?
Stop trying to use me to hide your sin, Cluny.
Apologize to the lady for insulting her and assuming bad thoughts.
By the way, I don't have any problem with the Bible. I do have one with people like you who claim Christ and act like the world.
---miche3754 on 4/5/10


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\\You might not have said "pole" but you did say "Strip-tease". So actually I censored what you said.
---miche3754 on 4/4/10\\

To censor something is to cut it out.

You didn't censor it.

You misquoted it, which is bearing false witness against your neighbor.

Now, do you DENY that David was dancing naked or nearly so, according to the Bible?
---Cluny on 4/4/10


\\I expect for my rebukes to be shown when I am mocked\\

St. Paul rebuked St. Peter to his face.

I don't claim to be on the spiritual level of St. Paul, but I am reasonably sure you're not on the spiritual level of St. Peter, either, catherine.
---Cluny on 4/4/10


Tell me where I mentioned pole dancing. You did, not I.

Or do you think that all exotic dancing is pole dancing?

I'm sure Salome's dance for Herod did not include poles.
---Cluny on 4/3/10
Is that how you dance, catherine?

I don't think such exotic dancing (aka strip-tease) glorifies the Lord.
---Cluny on 4/1/10

You might not have said "pole" but you did say "Strip-tease". So actually I censored what you said.
---miche3754 on 4/4/10


catherine...You must have Jesus confused with someone else. They Jesus in the Bible spoke to thousands, not four walls. He also preached to mean people! For the sake of your mental well-being, please get out of that house and go to church and get acquainted with some of those people that you think are mean. They might turn out to be perfectly nice people who are just weird like the rest of us.
---KarenD on 4/3/10


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\\Because it's the same as mocking my Savior.\\

catherine, please don't confuse yourself with Jesus.

Or DO you think that Jesus is your savior?
---Cluny on 4/3/10


I expect for my rebukes to be shown when I am mocked. Because it's the same as mocking my Savior. As far as preaching out-loud it is one way of praising my God and also it's how I discovered my gift.
---catherine on 4/3/10


\\catherine...What pulpit? You have one at home?
---KarenD on 4/3/10\\

catherine said at one time that she preaches to the walls. I don't know if they are saved yet.

Of course, she's also said that churches are full of mean people.

If someone is going to compare his/her own dancing to David's, that person had better be ready for a FULL comparison.
---Cluny on 4/3/10


catherine...What pulpit? You have one at home?
---KarenD on 4/3/10


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\\And I don't compare people post to today's pole dancing.
You did.\\

Tell me where I mentioned pole dancing. You did, not I.

Or do you think that all exotic dancing is pole dancing?

I'm sure Salome's dance for Herod did not include poles.
---Cluny on 4/3/10


Karen,
I didn't call what David did trash.
I called what Cluny said to Catherine trash.
He stated that she was going to do a stripper dance because she said she wanted to dance like David.
What he said wasn't nice because we know that is NOT how Catherine meant it.
We know she is talking about the love and the joy David felt for God and that is why he danced.
I apologize if what I said didn't make sense at the time.
---miche3754 on 4/3/10


There are some very naive or isolated people on these blogs. I have often heard people when saying they want to dance like David danced that they wouldn't do it "exactly" like he did. David danced naked! That's Biblical! That is not trash!
---KarenD on 4/2/10


Actually you assumed, Cluny.

And I don't compare people post to today's pole dancing.
You did.
There is a BIG difference in my posts than yours.
But I am sure the mods know that.
---miche3754 on 4/2/10


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\\Cluny that is not a nice thing to say.
I doubt Catherine was talking about dancing literally like David.

If I were a moderator, I would not have posted such trash.
---miche3754 on 4/1/10\\

Why do you say that? YOUR stuff gets posted, doesn't it?

catherine was the one who brought up David's dancing, not I.

I merely pointed out (as Paul Harvey said) the REST of the story.
---Cluny on 4/1/10


Cluny that is not a nice thing to say.
I doubt Catherine was talking about dancing literally like David.

If I were a moderator, I would not have posted such trash.
---miche3754 on 4/1/10


\\I expect to do a little of that myself, in the pulpit, when the anointing comes over me. David danced before the Lord.\\

According to the Bible, David danced before the Lord wearing little more than a loin cloth, if that much.

Is that how you dance, catherine?

I don't think such exotic dancing (aka strip-tease) glorifies the Lord.
---Cluny on 4/1/10


I expect to do a little of that myself, in the pulpit, when the anointing comes over me. David danced before the Lord. We just have to trust God to put-down all unbelievers who's attending church pretending to be serving God, but, are not. ThaT'S IT. Hallelujah.
---catherine on 4/1/10


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Cluny,thank's for your input on Temple Dancers,there were none. I wasn't sure is the reason I worded it like that. There's however an order in the Bible to dance in praise,Psalms 149:3 Let them praise his name in the dance:let them sing praises to him on timbrel and harp. This was to Israel and is Old Testament. How do we know anything is from the Lord? Our Spirit bears witness with the Spirit of God if something is from him,if not,no agreement. It is same for dancers moved by the HG,there's a Spiritual witness within. It isn't tied to assumption that all spontaneity is Spiritual,most Christians know the difference,a person moving on their own or moved by God. A choir singing by their human ability would be awful. Spirit led it's beautiful.
---Darlene_1 on 4/1/10


These are churches that have dance teams and drama teams. They incorporate the dance routines into the dramatic skits that they perform and are using them during the church services. These are not non-denominational churches. Some are part of large denominations. They seem to be trying to reach the youth by using these tactics. I haven't figured out what is prophetic about the dances either!
---KarenD on 4/1/10


This type of Dancing is an art form that ca be used on special occasions in a church service or special event for a congregation just as oratorio choir music ad drama presentations can be used.

They are not for general use every Sunday but from time to time during the year they provide a change of pace and can be constructively be used to dray new people to attend services.
---Friendly_Blogger on 4/1/10


\\I also think God had Temple dancers,I know he had trained Temple Singers but it is just one more example of man trying to mesh the Old Testament with the New Testament.\\

Nothing about Jewish temple dancers in ancient literature.

\\ I would rather see one anointed Holy Ghost moved person in church begin to dance as the Holy Ghost moves him than a million trained dancers.\\

And how do you know the dancer is not simply moving in himself or herself?

This is tied in with the assumption (unproven by Scripture) that spontaneity is always spiritual.

How would you like to hear an unrehearsed choir?
---Cluny on 4/1/10


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I think it is from man since I have been learning the Bible most of my 71 years and I have never heard of that before. I don't like rehearsed dancing in the church. I know the people mean well. I also think God had Temple dancers,I know he had trained Temple Singers but it is just one more example of man trying to mesh the Old Testament with the New Testament. Remember how God's Word says don't put new material on old it will not be strong and will tear out Matthew 9:16. I would rather see one anointed Holy Ghost moved person in church begin to dance as the Holy Ghost moves him than a million trained dancers. That will speak to any Christian who loves to be in the presence of God and witness the move of the Spirit and can be blessed by that.
---Darlene_1 on 3/31/10


I would think that if smoothly and gracefully done, there might be something reminiscent of ballet when signing during vocal music.
---Cluny on 3/31/10


What about the dance makes it PROPHETIC?
---Donna66 on 3/31/10


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