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Is it wrong to donate money you won from the lottery or is it 'sin money'?

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John ... But WHY do you need money to start a church?

You can start it by having small meetings in your own homes at no cost at all

Then if the numbers increase, maybe they would contribute a small amount to allow you to rent a school hall or similar accommodation.

You don't need a building until you have the people!
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/10/10


MarkV, Gary,

You're absolutely right!

I have been praying every day, all day long for the funds. But as your guys say, and as the Lord said..
"For without me you can do NOTHING.

So here I wait upon the Lord. Very frustrated, because I know not to do something on my own.
It will not be blessed and it will fail. As it is imposible to have a church when The Lord has not decreed it. It would be a building with secular knowledge. An Oxymoron.

NO... I'LL WAIT UPON THE LORD. I HAVE FOR MANY MANY YEARS NOW.

(The post was more of a humerous nature, not serious)
---John on 12/9/10


This blog is not unfruitful. It is a great opportunity to witness to someone and perhaps lead someone out of darkness(wrong thinking, teaching, attitudes etc..) into the light(truth, salvation) This is part of the great Commission. Every christian has a duty to share the gospel anywhere and everywhere we can. CN is a great place to do that. Discernment is a great gift God bestows upon some of us.
---Robyn on 12/9/10


John, I know of many who went to my church that now have started new churches else where. They knew that those places needed a church for members to gather together. Most of them were real spiritual leaders who knew the Scriptures very well. Some have grown big while others have stayed small. When God wants another church to start where believers can gather to learn about Him, He will provide in some way or another. If not from God, then you will find no help. I hope you can get a church started for the Lord.
---Mark_V. on 12/9/10


John,

IF God wants you or anyone else to start a "church" then He will provide the funds needed.

If you are having problems getting the funds necessary for "a church" then just maybe God isn't a part of "that project."
---Gary on 12/9/10




John ... You increase my doubt about your project. Is there anyone else suggesting that you start this church? And why do you need money to "start a church"?

Any church is not the building ... it is the people and you should not need funding to get them together.
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/9/10


Alan that was a very mean spirited and vindictive post.

Read my post again...

Did it say "MY" church... or did it say "A" church.

and... since my friend there is no church, then one can logically conclude there are NO members either.

That would negate the 2nd part of your post.

Wouldn't it?
---John on 12/8/10


John ... Why do you need money to start a church?

Will it be your church?

Surely it will be a church for many people in your part of the world ... is it not they who need the money for their church
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/8/10


I do need funding to start a church.
---John on 12/7/10


If we play the stock market, we gamble. When we buy insurance on our lives or autos, we gamble that we will need it and the insurance companies gamble on us not needing it. driving a car is a big gamble. I don't play the lottery but some churches sell raffle tickets to make up money for teen camps and other needs...same as the lottery.
---shira3877 on 12/6/10




You should not be playing the Lottery to begin with. It is gambling and can wreck lives if it gets out of hand. Surely you can find something better to do with your money. The devil makes you think you are going to get something for nothing, and you usually do just that, "get nothing"!
---Robyn on 12/5/10


Rhonda,

Read AND STUDY Deuteronomy 8:18 (KJV) - But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.

From NIV: But remember the LORD your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms his covenant, which he swore to your forefathers, as it is today.

God gave us THE ABILITY to work and earn a living. When I work, it is MY labor, not God's, because HE gave me that ability.

By the grace of God, He gave me the ability to support myself. I earned my living from the ability God gave me. I earned my pension which I now receive, because GOD GAVE ME THAT ABILITY.
---Gary on 5/24/10


I have yet to hear of anyone say God just made their pension direct deposit payment
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well sadly you clearly misunderstand YOUR CHERISHED pension check GAMBLE - like many in ENRON WORLDCOM and a HOST of other companies who BELIEVED their employers would provide for them in their old age with a pension check ...or waiting on social security check - a corrupt and bankrupt government system that STEALS from working poor to collectively GIVE - YET can't manage responsibility of money they are in charge of?

religious christianity teaches BIG LIE money is EVIL and yet DEMANDS their congregation GIVE

gamble a CHANCE on lottery win or expectations of sale of goods, 401K investment, stock or pension fund - it is ALL GAMBLING
---Rhonda on 5/23/10


I understand that we are warned to avoid foolish and vain arguments, and this thread is headed that way now.
---obewan on 5/18/10

I agree. This blog is unfruitful.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/18/10


This is what I understand. We Believers are not to love the things of the world, period. We are not to lay up treasure here on earth...
---Mark_Eaton on 5/18/10

Is providing for one's own later years laying up treasure here on earth or is it just good sense? Does wise investing mean you love the things of the world?

Can you not see that God has already provided for my later years by what He has already given to me, and that it is up to me to make sure I don't waste the money?

If we don't use the wisdom God gives us to plan for our retirement, who will financially support us? I have yet to hear of anyone say God just made their pension direct deposit payment.
---Gary on 5/18/10


Now what do you understand?
---Mark_Eaton on 5/18/10

I understand that we are warned to avoid foolish and vain arguments, and this thread is headed that way now.
---obewan on 5/18/10


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I guess you do not understand the meaning of the word will.
---obewan on 5/18/10

Why are you fighting so strongly against the Word of God? Why are you and Gary persisting in telling me that I do not understand?

This is what I understand. We Believers are not to love the things of the world, period. We are not to lay up treasure here on earth, we are not to set our eyes on the things of this world, we are to put our faith in the uncertainty of riches. When we do, then the Word of God in our lives, our faith, can be choked out by such things, by these "cares of life". I also understand that we are to work, but that our Father will supply ALL of our need, according to His riches.

Now what do you understand?
---Mark_Eaton on 5/18/10


Keeping the money and investing it on yourself is equivalent to burying it in the yard. When Jesus returns, all you give Him in return is the same thing He gave you.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/18/10

I guess you do not understand the meaning of the word will.

My stepfather was able to die at home and avoid a huge nursing home bill. He was prepared to pay for the nursing home though. He was able to leave over $600,000 to the Moody Bible Institute. I get none of that but am happy since it goes to the kingdom.

The average nursing home stay today is 3 years, and by the time I need it it is expected to cost $500K per year.
---obewan on 5/18/10


Read Matthew 25:15-28. Seems Jesus said you should invest to increase what you have.
---Gary on 5/17/10

Do you have no understanding of Spiritual things?

God gave you this parable so that you would invest His money in His kingdom, not invest it in this world to make more money. His treasure is souls, hearts, people coming into His kingdom. This is the "interest" He is looking for.

Keeping the money and investing it on yourself is equivalent to burying it in the yard. When Jesus returns, all you give Him in return is the same thing He gave you.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/18/10


Mike, donate some of that money to me if you don't know what to do with it. I could sure use it, maybe not more then others but a few thousand would be great. What a great deed that would be. You could make points with God, make points with everyone, and make me very happy.
---MarkV. on 5/18/10


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No it isn't wrong. People does not realize that the lottery helps the elderly, schools,etc. When a person is ready to retaire they can't live on that so they have to retaire from that job just to work another job so really when does the elderly retaire? They can't afford to.
---Rebecca_d on 5/17/10


Obewan: Thanks for that......

While I would say it is better to use the money the Lord gives you for some better entertainment (as lottery can become addictive), I do not think (only think) that it is wrong to give the money

If someone feels it is like the pieces of silver, then the money can be used for something else (like the piece of land)
---peter3594 on 5/18/10


Most people on this thread are now blowing off the original question.

The debate should not be should a Christian play the lotto, but rather, can lotto winnings be given to the Lord.

But, to stay off track, I have to say I am glad for people like Mark Eaton. If he wants to work until he dies and give up all his social security I will be more than happy to step aside and let him do that. After all, the system is bankrupt and I will probably not get to collect what I have paid in.

And note I did not say "retire in comfort.." I said "be able to pay for my own medical bills..." There is a HUGE difference.
---obewan on 5/17/10


tom2 on 5/17/10 - but read the Old Testament.

Genesis 13:2 - And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold.

Deuteronomy 14:25 - Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:

Seems to be that God felt that money was important. It is the LOVE of money that is bad.

Even the Temple tax was paid in money.

God gave us money (gold and silver). Why are some of you so much against money?
---Gary on 5/17/10


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Being a good steward of God's money is not accumulating interest.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/17/10

Read Matthew 25:15-28. Seems Jesus said you should invest to increase what you have.

You said, "There is no retirement in the kingdom of God. "

But there IS retirement in this life of ours. God commanded the Levites to retire from their work at The Temple at the age of 50. If God didn't want His children to retire, why would he have done that?
---Gary on 5/17/10


as usual most believers miss the mark,money, a man made thing really may be useful to the world,but isn,t necassary for life,neither a beautiful 30 year mortgage,nor new suv,what is needed is God,what is required is salvation thru jesus.too many believers are sheep.
---tom2 on 5/17/10


Mark_Eaton - do you understand what the Word means when it say God will take care of all our needs?

Our needs are:
1 - air - God supplies the air
2 - water - God supplies the water
3 - food - God supplies the crops and animals
4 - shelter - God provides the trees, etc. for the materials to build shelter

But God doesn't build your house. And for those who don't grow or raise their own food, God gave the ability to WORK and earn a living so that you can buy that which God has supplied. God requires us to do our part.
---Gary on 5/17/10


What the heck do you think being a good steward of God's money means? We are to use the wisdom He gives us to invest wisely so that we won't have to depend on others when we get old. GOD TAKES CARE OF US BY GIVING US ABILITIES, not by putting money in our checking account.
---Gary on 5/17/10

Being a good steward of God's money is not accumulating interest. You think God cares about money? God cares about people. You should be using His money to help people get into His kingdom, why else would he give you more than you need.?

God's purpose for your life is not leisure or being comfortable when you are old, it is to be conformed to the image of Christ and to share in His sufferings. There is no retirement in the kingdom of God.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/17/10


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Do you really trust God to take care of you, or are YOU taking care of YOU?
---Mark_Eaton on 5/17/10

Of course I trust God, but I still have to do the work on my own.

A friend had $1M in an IRA. It would have provided $50K/yr at retirement. The market crashed and he lost over 50%. He had to live on less than $20K at retirement and wound up quite poor. If he had invested in bonds and not risky mutual funds he would not have lost.

Winning the lotto would ease a lot of concerns like being unable to buy medical insurance or pay for the nursing home, but still I also trust God. I am not looking to get rich though.
---obewan on 5/17/10


Do you really trust God to take care of you, or are YOU taking care of YOU?
---Mark_Eaton on 5/17/10

According to Deuteronomy 8:18, God gave us the ABILITY to work and earn a living. God gives us the abilities. God does not take care of us Himself. God opens doors. God gives us a brain.

What the heck do you think being a good steward of God's money means? We are to use the wisdom He gives us to invest wisely so that we won't have to depend on others when we get old. GOD TAKES CARE OF US BY GIVING US ABILITIES, not by putting money in our checking account.
---Gary on 5/17/10


Obewan, Mark_Eaton: I see the point of each of your points, don't argue so much.

Mark, yes, I agree that playing the lottery IS a bad idea (like other gambling), though it MAY be OK if done ONLY for the fun of it, not for making money

Obewan, I agree that IF the money is won, it can be given, though it would be better not to play at all, and so not to win

Let's find something to agree on

Blessings
---peter3594 on 5/17/10


Obewan:

What part of this do you not understand:

Matt 6:32-33 "But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. So do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

Its easy to talk the talk, but do you walk the walk? Do you really trust God to take care of you, or are YOU taking care of YOU?

Statements like this "Well, I spent my $1 from the sweat of my brow" that make me doubt your trust of Him and think you are trusting yourself.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/17/10


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What you are really saying is that you pray that NO Christian will ever win.
---obewan on 5/16/10

I am praying no Christian ever PLAYS.

Why do you need a game of chance when you serve the OWNER of everything? Do you doubt His taking care of you? His provision of you? Or is it your WANTS that is driving this? Do you want more than He has provided?

I think God has no part in anyone winning in a game of chance. I think its like rain on the wicked, everyone sooner or later benefits from God's goodness.

And the post that never got through asked the question, Do you honestly think that God really gets the glory? God magnifies himself by letting you win? Please.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/17/10


I am praying that you do NOT win.

---Mark_Eaton on 5/15/10

What you are really saying is that you pray that NO Christian will ever win.

Do you always pray against advancing God's kingdom interests? Would you seriously pray that that Baptist couple who won the lottery and gave $6 million to the Salvation Army would not have been able to do so? I think God has a different opinion because in his sovereign will he allowed it to happen!

And before you call me selfish, note I said let ANY Christian win before a pagan wins. Is that not a better outcome?
---obewan on 5/16/10


Are you laying up treasure here on earth in your IRA or is it just an investment in the Kingdom of God?

---Mark_Eaton on 5/15/10

What kind of silly question is that?

Do you plan to work until you die?

What are you going to use to pay for your nursing home care, or are you just trusting God to let you die at home after your last long day at work?

I think our society expects that old people will step aside to provide jobs for young people at a certain age. That requires a certain amount of foresight and planning. And, as implied with my so-called lotto winnings, it is ALL God's money.
---obewan on 5/16/10


Rhonda - from the New Testament:
2 Timothy 2:6 (NIV) - The hardworking farmer should be the first to receive a share of the crops.

Notice is says the farmer should be the FIRST to receive a share of the crops, NOT God. In the Old Testament, the first of the crops were the firstfruits which were to be taken to the Temple.

Old Testament vs New Testament. Old - firstfruits went to God. New - first go to the farmer.
---Gary on 5/15/10


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But, if I win, I will no doubt face condemnation from many Christians who would call me 'sinner' for 'gambling'. Too bad they don't see my IRA the same way! LOL
---obewan on 5/15/10

I am praying that you do NOT win.

Are you laying up treasure here on earth in your IRA or is it just an investment in the Kingdom of God?

Jesus told the parable of the talents. When He returns and settles accounts, what will you have to show Him for His investment?
---Mark_Eaton on 5/15/10


Well, I spent my $1 from the sweat of my brow. The school systems are in desperate need and they are cutting programs and laying off teachers.

I can win $10 million. That would be $333K a year for 30 years. That would mean at least $33K a year to Christian work if not a lot more. Probably a lot more since I would only need a tiny fraction of that to retire in comfort and devote my time to community service.

But, if I win, I will no doubt face condemnation from many Christians who would call me 'sinner' for 'gambling'. Too bad they don't see my IRA the same way! LOL
---obewan on 5/15/10


Genesis 3:19: "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground, for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return."
Who am I to judge how a man spends his earnings which he got with the sweat of his brow?
If I did, he may say, "Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own?" (Matt. 20:15)
---Nana on 5/14/10


Rhonda said, "Maybe because they were spending on a whole host of other things ... did you see THEIR checks and cash entering the offering? ... do you MONITOR and WITNESS their financial spending KNOWING WHERE every dollar goes?

Yes, I do. Since I have to help them, I have access to their bank account and check it at least once every two days. I know where every cent is going. They are spending only on their needs.

You see, Rhonda, you don't realize there are people who just don't make enough to survive on and they need help. Yet their pastor says they are robbing God if they don't tithe and for a while, they believe their pastor. NOW, however, the Lord has shown them the truth.
---Gary on 5/15/10


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Why is it that I have family members who were giving to the church first, and then needed assistance from me in order to pay their rent.
*****

Maybe because they were spending on a whole host of other things

did you see THEIR checks and cash entering the offering?

do you MONITOR and WITNESS their financial spending KNOWING WHERE every dollar goes?

MANY people CLAIM they give to their church and make many false claims about their money to RECEIVE money from their clueless relatives

the vacuum you get sucked in to has NOTHING to do with The Father in Heaven

I guess this was your response to the misunderstanding you have to the verse you misquoted?
---Rhonda on 5/14/10


Gambling may not be a sin, but it certainly brings NO glory to God.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/13/10
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how sad religious christianity talks out both sides of their mouths

on one side it is a sin to have money

on the other side preaching every minute about "giving" money

essentially DON'T have that sinful money give it to the church instead

many people who win lotteries do much good in their communities and THAT doesn't glorify The Father in Heaven?

so if a relative wins the lottery and dies before spending leaving it all to YOU then would "give" it away to "glorify" your god making sure not one sinful cent stayed in your palm

is it glorifying a god or not?
---Rhonda on 5/14/10


Are you conformed to the world, or conformed to the image of Jesus?
---Mark_Eaton on 5/14/10

Is posting on these blogs glorifying God?

Are you the judge? Is it up to you to decide where to draw the line?
---Gary on 5/14/10


Are you saying spending a few dollars for entertainment is wrong?
---Gary on 5/14/10

Where do YOU draw the line between what is acceptable and unacceptable?

Is watching mostly nude women dance on TV entertainment? America thinks so.

Is watching a man and a women fornicate on a large screen in a dark room entertainment? America thinks so.

Is spending a few dollars a week on a state-sponsored lottery entertainment? America thinks so.

Are you conformed to the world, or conformed to the image of Jesus?
---Mark_Eaton on 5/14/10


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Gambling may not be a sin, but it certainly brings NO glory to God.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/13/10

Now that depends on who wins the money and what they do with it.

Here in Jacksonville, FL a Baptist retired couple won $21 million. They publicly gave ALL the glory to God as well as about $6 million in immediate cash to Christian works like the Salvation Army. It was big news and there were a lot of newspaper interviews in which they gave their testimony.

And, they really needed the money too since they had fallen on hard times.
---obewan on 5/14/10


Gambling may not be a sin, but it certainly brings NO glory to God.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/13/10

Nor does watching tv, eating sweets, being over-weight, pastors lying about tithing, and a million other things.

Are you saying spending a few dollars for entertainment is wrong?
---Gary on 5/14/10


Gary:

I must ask you a question, since it is obvious you either are in favor of gambling or you think its OK.

When you stand before Jesus and He asks you exactly what did you do with all the wealth He gave you because you stored up so little treasure in heaven, are you going to answer "I played the church bingo every week and took monthly junkets to Las Vegas"?

We should do ALL to glorify our God and Jesus in our bodies and in our deeds.

Gambling may not be a sin, but it certainly brings NO glory to God.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/13/10


Contrary to what some think., Gambling is a sin. 1: It is a missuse of God stewardship.
---francis on 5/12/10

Then church raffles, bingo games, etc. are also sins?????

The stock market, although an investment, also depends on some to lose in order for others to gain. But many invest in the stock market to make a quick buck, and some hoping to get rich. SAME AS GAMBLING.

Gambling as a means to get rich may be a sin, but gambling as a means of entertainment is nothing but good fun. The MOTIVE is what matters. Otherwise, money spent for ANY type of entertainment is a sin since it is money gone, not an investment.
---Gary on 5/12/10


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Contrary to what some think., Gambling is a sin.

1: It is a missuse of God stewardship. It is not an investment in any goods or services. It relies on people to lose thier income so others may gain it, that is dishonest.

2: it is an attempt to gain wealth contrary to biblicalprinciples Proverbs 20:21 An inheritance [may be] gotten hastily at the beginning, but the end thereof shall not be blessed.
---francis on 5/12/10


Mike: If all that dirty "sin money" is bothering you, send it to me. I'll clean it up and put it to good use.
---jerry6593 on 5/8/10


It is the "love of money" that is dreadfully sinful. If someone bought a lottery ticket and won, I would not hesitate to advise giving much of it to help the poor or other charitable endeavours. I personally do not gamble. Can't afford it:).
---jody on 5/8/10


Rhonda - You obviously live in a vacuum.

Why is it that I have family members who were giving to the church first, and then needed assistance from me in order to pay their rent. Why is it that I have family members who were giving to the church first, and then needed assistance from me so that they could put food on the table.

Many pastors teach the truth here, that family comes BEFORE church.

You have been misled into believing that giving to the church is giving to God. It isn't. Give scripture.
---Gary on 5/8/10


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Now use COMMON SENSE. IF you give to the church first, and don't have enough left to care for your family, you are worse than a non believer.
*****

OPERATIVE word you IMPLIED is FIRST - nowhere does 1Tim 5:8 STATE the word FIRST

a NON-believer takes care of their family first because they have NO FAITH

a TRUE believer understands all that is GIVEN to them comes from The Father in Heaven

common sense should lead to TRUTH not to the commentaries of pious religious men who twist scripture by IMPLYING idea's that do not exist ....hoard your money and care for your wants and needs first you have NO FAITH in the blessings from above
---Rhonda on 5/7/10


really Gary? you should REREAD the passage you posted NOWHERE does it state take care of your family needs first ...Rhonda

Let's use the ICB version of the Bible:
1 Timothy 5:8 (ICB) A believer should take care of his own relatives, especially his own family. If he does not do that, he has turned against the faith. He is worse than a person who does not believe in God.

Now use COMMON SENSE. IF you give to the church first, and don't have enough left to care for your family, you are worse than a non believer.

Just read a few commentaries on the verse.
---Gary on 4/10/10


1Timothy 5:8 tells us to take care of our family needs FIRST. The government seems to always get theirs first, but when we get our paycheck, it is FAMILY FIRST,
*****

really Gary? you should REREAD the passage you posted NOWHERE does it state take care of your family needs first - YOU have IMPLIED that ...it also helps if you read the entire chapter for clarity

per scripture we must give our share to GOVERNMENT which is why your paycheck is AFTER taxes ...unlike many who win lotteries and such do not pay their taxes end up OWING money because they took care of their NEEDS first

secondly BIBLICALLY speaking The Father in Heaven is first

lest you FORGET EVERYTHING given to you comes from The Father in Heaven
---Rhonda on 4/10/10


Robyn--
For some people, gambling becomes an addiction. The majority of people do it occasionally and/or with small amounts of money.
It is a form of entertainment, no more wicked than fishing, which may be expensive and is also largely governed by "chance" (despite those who brag about the size of their catch).

Lottery tickets cost a dollar or two. If you buy so many that your family is in need or you cannot pay your bills...that would be a sin.
---Donna66 on 4/10/10


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Playing the lottery is really not an activity christians should indulge in. It is a form of gambling and gambling is destructive and can ruin your life and the lives of your loved ones. God can meet all of your needs. Gambling does not. Learn to be content with what you have and God will take care of the rest. Trust God. Clearly you don't trust God completely or else you would not have a need to gamble. Gambling can become an addiction also. Please stop doing this. Ask God to deliver you from this activity. God bless.
---Robyn on 4/10/10


francis--
For ONE person to win the lottery, many many more must lose. That does not sound like a Godly system to me.

The many who lose, all pay in willingly.
Nobody forces them. They may pay more than the minimum in hopes of increasing their chance to win. But everyone who enters knows they are most likely to lose.

The real winner is whoever sponsors the lottery...the city or state who uses the money for the good of all, or the charitable organization who makes the lives of some, better.

Most sports competitions,like the Olympics,
award few prizes though all try their hardest. If all won, what would be the value of participating? Even Paul uses this as a metaphor for the Christian life. 1Cr 9:24
---Donna66 on 4/9/10


Cluny, do you actually believe that it is a sin for a mortgage company to charge interest on a home loan? Or what about if I were to sell my house to someone. Would you consider it a sin for me to charge interest if I act as the bank? If so, then you are saying I should not sell to anyone unless they can pay me in cash, because getting the cash up front is worth a lot more than getting it in payments over 30 years.

And remember, mortgage companies and banks are owned by stockholders, INDIVIDUALS.

And what about the mortgage on the church building? Many churches are paying interest on that loan. Is that also sin?
---Gary on 4/9/10


the Bible forbids receiving or charging interest.
---Cluny on 4/5/10

No, the Bible does NOT forbid receiving or charging interest.

Jesus COMMENDED the practice of RECEIVING interest FROM A BANK.

The Bible condemns charging the poor or a family member interest. This condemnation is based on greed.

Nowadays, because of inflation, there is no greed in one charging a rate of interest so that his money does not DEPRECIATE. But it still might be wrong FOR AN INDIVIDUAL to charge the poor interest.
---Gary on 4/9/10


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For ONE person to win the lottery, many many more must lose. That does not sound like a Godly system to me.
---francis on 4/9/10

Many use gambling as entertainment. That is NOT sin.

What about PAYING to see a movie -- for ONE company to make the money, many many are paying to see the movie.

What about church raffles? Church bingo?

And even worse, what about all the churches that set up stands and SELL DANGEROUS FIREWORKS for the 4th of July?????
---Gary on 4/9/10


For ONE person to win the lottery, many many more must lose. That does not sound like a Godly system to me.

Psalms 73:12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world, they increase in riches.
---francis on 4/9/10


\\Did He actually commend the practice?
---Cluny on 4/6/10

Yes, as Donna66 has pointed out.
---Gary on 4/6/10\\

Did you read the rest of what I said?

And if so, do you have a comment upon it?
---Cluny on 4/9/10


Rhonda, you are correct that money is NOT sin.

But your priorities are not biblical.

1Timothy 5:8 tells us to take care of our family needs FIRST. The government seems to always get theirs first, but when we get our paycheck, it is FAMILY FIRST, not church first. Next, there is no scripture that says giving to a church is giving to God. Giving to the poor is giving to God. Next, the 10% tithe ENDED at the cross per Hebrews 7:5,12,18.

We should be generous givers AFTER taking care of our family needs. IF we give first and then our family suffers, we are worse than a non-believer according 1Timothy 5:8.
---Gary on 4/8/10


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ONLY religion of men teaches money is sin

nowhere in scripture is money a sin

remember it is MONEY and the people who have it that DONATE it to build libraries schools shelters and a host of other good things

poor people only have time to donate and there is only so much time in a day ...poor people GENERALLY spend their time looking for handouts

enlighten me

where is "sin money" located in Gods Word? sounds like the pious words of a colorful false minister

either way before you donate remember to pay the taxes ...then 10% to your church and donate at least 20% to worthy charities that assist people ......with the remaining money do good for yourself and family members
---Rhonda on 4/8/10


A word about usury(interest). The international(global) economy today is built on usury. In a economy that is built on usury everyone must participate or be left behind. America today is in a totally new situation, our national debt is beyond payment yet we remain the strongest military force in the world. This places the burden of forgiving our debt on the rest of the world. Will it happen? Probably not at least not until pressure is brought to bear through international trade. Another words all trade grinds to a halt.
---Is_built_on_usuamima on 4/8/10


Some call such il-gotton gain, money you didn't earn etc.
This is how I feel. God gave the children of Israel houses, wells & vineyards, they didn't build - dig etc by the sweat of their brow.
I wish I had some to give to & for the Work of God. Whether it's pch money, money gave to me from a rich person, lottery, found a stash of money.
God owns it All.
---Lawrence on 4/7/10


Did He actually commend the practice?
---Cluny on 4/6/10

Yes, as Donna66 has pointed out.
---Gary on 4/6/10


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I was stationed in Vietnam in 1969-1970 and when I came back to the US, I brought back stolen souvenirs (I didn't steal them, but the persons who gave them to me stole them, and I knew it).

A few years ago, as I was getting closer and closer to The Lord, I asked forgiveness from The Lord, and told The Lord there was no way for me to return the stolen items as I had no idea whose they were, or how to even contact them.

The Lord put it in my heart to sell the items and give the proceeds to the needy. I put the items on eBay and sold them for several hundred dollars and gave all of the proceeds to the needy.

Bad money can be used for good, just as God can make good out of a bad situation.
---Gary on 4/5/10


\\the Bible forbids receiving or charging interest.
---Cluny on 4/5/10

Matthew 25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

Jesus surely didn't condemn usury (interest).\\

Did He actually commend the practice?

Did He encourage His followers to do so?

Actually, the first Christian to make a distinction between unlawful usury and lawful interest (heretofore both were condemned by all Christian writers) was Jean Chauvin, know as John Calvin.

Rather late, don't you think?
---Cluny on 4/6/10


Thank you Gary! Also please note that in Jesus' parable, the master COMMENDED the servant who added another five talents to the five he had been given.
Some today would probably label him a "greedy capitalist".

If your winnings are "sin money" all the more reason to donate them! But my own opinion is that gambling isn't sinful (unless you are depriving your family because of it, or leaving your obligations unpaid)...we take all sorts of gambles (not just monetary) in life and most progress is the result of a gamble.
---Donna66 on 4/5/10


the Bible forbids receiving or charging interest.
---Cluny on 4/5/10

Matthew 25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

Jesus surely didn't condemn usury (interest).

Most verses dealing with interest have to do with charging THE POOR interest.
---Gary on 4/5/10


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money is money. Donate away!
---anon on 4/5/10


One can make a point that interest on a savings deposit is "sin money," because the Bible forbids receiving or charging interest.

When a man said to Mark Twain that someone's money was tainted, Twain replied, "It's twice tainted. 'Tain't yours and 'tain't mine."
---Cluny on 4/5/10


I would say talk to the Pastor or leader where you want to donate the money. If he doesn't mind then donate. If he does,what you would have given to him give the Salvation Army. There are also Christian Orphan Homes and places like Boys Town. You might consider giving to some of the places where they feed the homeless. As far as it being "sin money",what is important is how you feel about it in your heart 1John 3:20 For if our heart condemn us,God is greater than our heart,and knows all things. Also if it is a habit that possesses you and you spend money you need then it would be a sin,because the Bible teaches we are to be temperate in all things in our life. Pray, Seek Gods answer for this.
---Darlene_1 on 4/5/10


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