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 ---Dee on 4/10/10
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We know from God's word,the devil come to kill,steal & destroy.He can first,begin by put doubt,fear,lies in your mind! God do not hate anyone! He loves all! He hates sin & has a remedy for all! That's why he gave his only son jesus bear "our" sins & that we be forgiven & wash thru Jesus blood ' redeemed! That's not a God that hates!however, in life our faith goin' be tried.I just do not believe God hates anyone!The Devil will do anything keep you from serve God! Be encouraged! Don't turn your back on God! Study the scriptions for in them you have life! God is love.
---ELENA on 9/26/11


Dee, I have been a Christian for many years, and I know the ways of NonChristians very well, they are the complete opposite of us. So please, don't blame God for what people do. From experience, I have found that NonChristians are basically evil, and they will hurt and destroy us, because hurting people hurt people. And it is not in their nature at all to do good and to do right, but they are only 100% self-serving and sinful. All that we can do is pray that they become saved before they are sealed for eternal torments and damnation.
---Eloy on 9/21/11


Dee, There is a lot of evil in this world, but we can use this evil to cause us to draw closer to the Lord Almighty. From experience I know that my Lord takes the best of care of his own children, and every person whom comes against the righteous seed of God will deal with the hand of the Almighty in their life, and if they don't repent then also in that to come.
---Eloy on 9/21/11


Eloy:

You said: eventually God will throw them headlong into hell ... And I long deeply for that day, which seems to be way way way overdue

Personally, I would prefer the day when they are redeemed and saved from their wicked ways.

There is so much disgustingly wicked people, which God continues to allow them air to breathe, and I know not why

This is because his ways are not our ways and his thoughts are not our thoughts (neither yours nor mine nor anyone else's). If any one of us thinks he has the Mind of God, he is sorely deluded.
---StrongAxe on 9/21/11


Eloy, you just don't understand who the God of Scripture really is. God allows or permits everything that happens in life. You say,
", which God continues to allow them air to breathe, and I know not why."
You don't know why because as those wicked people are, you were also. Yet He allowes the wicked to live, so that many can be saved.
But you do not believe this of God because you believe in free will. If you believed in the Sovereignty of God, you would not say what you say. Sure many innocent people die because of the wicked, but God has a purpose for all things. For nothing happens without Him allowing or permitting it to happen.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/11




Sometimes when bad things happen to us we think that God let it happen, and therefore he must be punishing us. But I have learned that evil people choose to be evil all by themselves, and eventually God will throw them headlong into hell, every single one of them. And I long deeply for that day, which seems to be way way way overdue. There is so much disgustingly wicked people, which God continues to allow them air to breathe, and I know not why. For every wholesome breath that they take and blaspheme with is also a breath lost to the innocent. He waits for the wicked to repent, but in his waiting they persecute the righteous. How long O' Lord will you wait to burn up the chaff, and vindicate your people? Maranatha Lord. A-men. Rev.6:10.
---Eloy on 9/20/11


We are all a big joke to him he is perfect but created us what a great job can the all seeing all knowing creator of all not fix his mistake or does he enjoy watching us suffer because of the way we are created /
---Gary on 9/20/11


God may hate the sinful things we do, the hurt we torture others with, the pride that leads us to believe we are powerful enough to require God's wrath. Satan truly hates us because we exist, nothing more.
---Elaine on 5/5/10


john2

you mentioned the reason we obey his commandments is bec. we love him

yes! I obeyed his commandments but in the end I got in trouble. I obeyed to be honest, & those above me punished be for being honest.
I obeyed 'self-denial' & in the end I wasted all that time 'serving' others when they can do it themselves.
god said that obey my commandments, & I will bless you. but i ended being punished instead.
have you 'denied yourself', served others & ran another mile for them?
or are you an expert in quoting verses in the bible but do not practice them. there is a word for that.
---mike on 5/5/10


john 2

yes, when I ask god for self-confidence his answer is SIN or that is not biblical. that is why I missed opportunities bec. of that verse in the bible. instead of moving forward, I was put in bondage bec. 'that is a sin or that is not biblical?

when there is suffering what is the answer? IT IS BECAUSE OF SIN? then he blames that suffering on us when we try to 'trust & obey' him.

what are we to obey? work work work. that is why time is wasted on work work work.

you have not answered my if you obeyed the commandments of god regarding 'self-denial'. typical when difficult questions are asked you evade it.
---mike on 5/5/10




Mike, are you on here to say why God hates you or why you hate God?
---John_II on 4/29/10


jon11

apparently you have not answered my question about the commandment of christ regarding 'self-denial' or 'running another mile' for your brethren/'heathen'.

I have seen those kinds of christians who quote verses from the bible just to 'catch' others so they can make judgement.

---mike on 4/29/10


john

If you are obeying the commandments then you are showing the Lord you love Him to that extent

is that how you define relationship? is that how you practice relationship? is that how you tell you wife (if you're married) wife you have to follow & obey my commands to show you love me. you have to clean, wash the clothes, clean the yard, take care of the family, etc... well then christianity is NOT a relationship but a religion.
---mike on 4/28/10


Mike/Jim, Do you two know each other? Do you attend the same church? You're interchanging your grievances, it's like you are the same person!

You've (both) been hurt by your church/pastor, but at least you know now! How many are still in peril and yet don't know? You really don't appear to understand the season for sin and the amazing grace of God. You ask for chapter and verse on applying the Gospel in the real world, but this just means that you haven't separated yourself from the world. Are you walking and talking as the world and then "going through the ceremony" of religious commitments? Jesus is the Gospel and he is not of the world. I'd suggest that you go to oneplace and get yourself some good pastoral guidance.
---John_II on 4/27/10


to john

If you are obeying the commandments then you are showing the Lord you love Him to that extent

obey to commandments of god. so it's just another dysfunctional family where you based your love on works. and if you fail not bec. you lack faith but bec. of lack of HOW to obey you suffer the result.

john you have not answer my question regarding christ commandment of 'self denial' or running another mile for your brethren. or are you just another gong.
---mike on 4/27/10


john11

you did not answer my on how do you apply the gospel in the real world? book & verse. prosperity gospel is 1 ex. you are told to obey the commandments of god. but they don't tell you HOW just 'trust & obey' in giving you tithe & poof you will be blessed. anybody can exploit the bible in the name of obedience & humility.
---mike on 4/27/10


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yes. I obeyed the commandments of god in the name of loving him. I denied myself bec. a pastor said that 'self is a sin'.
in the end, I ended up being the loser, missed opportunities & those who say 'deny yourself' are the once who break that commandment.
have you denied yourself? run another mile for your brethren or even a unbeliever?
that is a commandment of christ
anybody can say they love god but they are following his commandments based on their OWN interpretation of it. i find that christians are bunch of hypocrites. saving their own skins when problems arise
---jim on 4/27/10


Mike {re: Waco, Jonestown}, when I first spoke out against Scanlon's ALC, I thought that by showing his followers the Scriptures, and by my exposing his deception, they'd flee the place! I was wrong, Mike, they refused the truth, they opted to believe that Scanlon's box is the foyer of Heaven. I was exasperated, but God conveyed to my heart, "if they won't listen to Me, what makes you think they'll listen to you"? But they were delivered the message anyway so they may know what God already knows. So before I pity them too much, I remember how they choose to believe they are in the know with a discreet doctrine and have the inside track to the Gates. They don't care about us, though we keep trying to rescue.
---John_II on 4/21/10


Jim: Are you loving the Lord? Are you loving your brethren? Are you loving yourself? You're confident of your faith, you have hope as you're not walking away, but what about love? Are you withholding your affections? Now you may be a good guy, and perhaps no-one has a bad word about you, but if you're holding back your love then maybe the Lord is withholding His (and brethren theirs)! You may be just a resounding gong [1 Corinthians 13] - now this would drive you to despair! You need the power of love, solid love, to effectuate your ministry. If you are obeying the commandments then you are showing the Lord you love Him to that extent, but if you are embittered by the lack of profit spiritually, then you're not in 2 Corinthians 11-12.
---John_II on 4/21/10


Mike -- You certainly sound upset with, and confused by, Christians and Christianity
Let's start over. Are you a Christian?
Jesus, the Son of God, will forgive ALL your sins (we all are sinners, you know) if you ask Him.

HE willingly suffered for our sins (yours and mine) so we wouldn't have to pay for them in eternity... as perfect justice would require.
If you can accept this, Jesus will become a very personal Savior to you!

A personal relationship with Jesus can give you CONFIDENCE to tackle all sorts of difficult situations, because he Loves you and you can trust Him with the outcome!

Read for YOURSELF what the Bible says... the first 4 books of the NT, and ask GOD to show you what you need to know.
---Donna66 on 4/20/10


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People have a problem when they fail to distinguish between God's chastisement and the suffering that comes from life in this world. (NOT DUE to our SIN.)
---Donna66 on 4/17/10

Not to mention the fellowship of His sufferings that ALL who are saved should be experiencing. Those fiery trials that test our faith that grow us up to maturity.

One must certainly discern their suffering.
---kathr4453 on 4/20/10


donna66

so what is christ confidence? how will it apply in the real world?
even in the bible it says 'that we are not like being tossed to & fro' or what about the 2 stewards in the parable of the steward? did they talked about 'christ confidence'. the 1st 2 'went out' to put their 'talents' to use without doubt, fear or guitl, while the 3rd was full of fear, doubt,shame & blame.
that is the problem with christianity. quote a verse or say 'christ confidence' but they just give you 1 sentence solution that is inadequate.
---mike on 4/20/10


to donna66
in the book of genesis god told adam 'Adam, YOU have to work, YOU have to have to manage the garden' and even after they sinned, there was no 'christ confidence' when god said to adam ...in toil YOU (ADAM) you eat its yield all the days of YOUR life.
and did adam sat down & said 'god I can't do that. I can't work because I is sin & i have to rely on christ'.
and I have seen plenty of christians who profess to have 'christ confidence' but they just blow their big mouths so they can look good. they did not have any 'christ confidence' or 'christ like' in them.
---mike on 4/20/10


But you're talking about the feeling of being victimised by God (out of the frying pan and into the fire of Hell).

then I declare they are being punished by the world, not God, they just blame Him

so where did the quotes come from

'deny yourself' - pastors' explanation is to give away & sacrifice
christ reliance / christ confidence not self confidence
run another mile for your brethren
did these come from the bible?
---mike on 4/20/10


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mike -- If your self-confidence comes from your position as a child of God, what other people do to you may sting, but can't really defeat you.
Your position in Christ is not due to any ability on your part, but on HIS unshakable love.

Rom 8:35-39 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?....Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us....
neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
---Donna66 on 4/19/10


mike -- If your self-confidence comes from your position as a child of God, what other people do may "sting", but can't really defeat you. Your position in Christ is based not on your ability, but on HIS unshakable love. This is CONFIDENCE.

Rom 8:35-39 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril....Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us....
neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
---Donna66 on 4/19/10


john
However, you talk of those starved of knowledge/ understanding, then I declare they are being punished by the world, not God, they just blame Him

so what happened in Waco tx & jonestown? are they punished by the world? who told them to listen, follow & obey? what do you hear from the bible? they tell you to practice the word of god but what do you hear? sin, self denial, you should be this or that? does the bible teach any PRACTICAL verses? show me the book verse.
ie
pastor told me self is S I N. how can you have a relationship with god & with others.
self confidence is not biblical. if you don't have it, people walk over you, abuse, take advantage of you.

vague & shallow
---mike on 4/19/10


to john

so one simple question

give me verse that is applicable in the real world?
book verses & explain
---mike on 4/19/10


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john

so where did all this legalism come from? isn't from the bible with all the do's & don'ts & you fail this or that? you can quote a verse in the bible but without the proper & balanced explanantion it becomes legalism.
grace brings life? so then after you receive grace what do you hear? full of 'obey this verse', full of do's & don'ts & you have to follow somebody else's 'teaching' when it is vague & shallow.
just bec. believers do not follow the SOMEBODY's 'teaching, you conclude that it is pride. I have seen many follow to end up nowhere. then blame for lack of faith or sin when they suffer.
---jim on 4/19/10


John II -- You write the truth.
The commandments brought death so that grace could bring life! Now we know how to please God and are not condemned if/when we transgress.

Comfort in Chastisement?
Yes,
Hbr 12:8-9a But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us... Hbr 12:10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness.

People have a problem when they fail to distinguish between God's chastisement and the suffering that comes from life in this world. (NOT DUE to our SIN.)
---Donna66 on 4/17/10


Preach on John II:o) The counsel of a Godly man is priceless.
---Josef on 4/17/10


Mike {"pointing to sin"}: Apparently my submissions are for those who feel God's forthright circumcision of the heart, without the anaesthetic! But you're talking about the feeling of being victimised by God (out of the frying pan and into the fire of Hell). Initially, Job's declaration: "Shall we accept good from God and not trouble", and, how is blessed to suffer with Christ, seemed good starters. However, you talk of those starved of knowledge/ understanding, then I declare they are being punished by the world, not God, they just blame Him. Proverbs is there for attaining wisdom, those who are 'under the knife' are definitely in the Word, otherwise they couldn't feel God being so 'cruel'.
---John_II on 4/16/10


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Jim: Prosperity preachers bring audiences who fervently scribble down their [preachers] secrets to success, they then try and exact those ideologies in the world, when it fails - and God will make it fail astoundingly - it yields frustration. A church that ties itself up in the letter (legalism) is no better than the world which is increasingly asphyxiating on the stuff - again frustration.
The commandments brought death so that grace could bring life! Now we know how to please God and are not condemned if/when we transgress. You don't take the bible to an interview, it's demanding beyond our abilities to adhere to it, we take the Spirit by ingesting the Word beforehand!
---John_II on 4/16/10


john
farthest the heart can be from God is when it is convinced it has all the answers right here on Earth - pride

so, what you are saying is obey in the name of humility? look at what happened in waco jonestown,people followed an 'answer' that led to their destruction not bec of pride but bec. those who give the answers abuse their authority.
if that is your premise, then jesus has pride when he didn't obey the pharisees when he healed on a sabbath.
those who obey are exploited of their ignorance. i've seen pat robertson speak as if he knows everything & give stupid answers & many believed him. prosperity pastors give 'answers' regarding success but they exploit people. is that pride or blind obedience
---jim on 4/15/10


to john
The farthest the heart can be from God is when it is convinced it has all the answers right here on Earth - pride

I have an uncle who is now traumatized & broken down emotionally. many are abused physically & verbally that end up destroyed. are these traumatized people humble? or if they 'decide' to leave their abusive parents, are they arrogant, prideful, sinful, know-it-all people?
you tell me john?
or are you going to point to sin why people have been abused?
---mike on 4/15/10


Mike: For whom the Lord loveth, he chastiseth, and he scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
It should be self-evident that when a backslider comes back before the Lord, he/she still has a heart that is far from Him. That person can barely look at the face of Jesus in statue, never mind in the real. The farthest the heart can be from God is when it is convinced it has all the answers right here on Earth - pride! Then we darken His counsel.
James 4:4 - know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. Then we're back in Leviticus 26:21. He's the same God, NT and OT.
I couldn't have known if I hadn't been hated by God myself.
---John_II on 4/14/10


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oyster

'god is forgiving'

so how can a forgiving god have any application in the real world. what skills do you learn from forgivenes. none. just continue to commit the same mistakes over & over again.

you are demanded to follow & obey the word of god with no instructions. just obey
you are not really obeying the word of god but getting approval from pastors or
being exploited by christianity. obey giving tithe, obey work for others success, obey to sacrifice for others, obey obey obey like a robot.
your prayer will not work so just keep it to yourself. my life has been wasted following god to nowhere.
with all the demands of rules, you will really not know god.
---jim on 4/14/10


catherine if you feel God hates you all the time, then you don't KNOW Him intimately because the word tells us:

John 14:21 - He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John 16:27 - For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

Romans 5:5 - And hope maketh not ashamed, because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

---Donna5535 on 4/14/10


Jim..I feel for you very much cos you obviously dont know God that much..He is a loving God..know this, man do explain Godly things wrong sometimes so we all are not the same..God is forgiving, loving, faithful the list goes on...I will pray for you Jim .. You need to be at the feet of Jesus a lot more to know Him..God bless..
---oyster on 4/14/10


feeling the hatred of god is not only the issue. my other issues are god is full of contradictions of what god is saying, weak, inadequate & shallow answers, being weighed down with so many rules & full of guilt tripping accusations.
he does not understand what I am going through down here bec all you hear is nothing but sin.
when i ask god about a problem, issues, hurt, or struggle, his answer is sin.
and this does not come from the enemy it comes from your fellow believers & pastors.
i don't have any peace with god.
---jim on 4/13/10


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ALL THE TIME.
---catherine on 4/12/10


Dee, No I don't feel God hates me. Why do you feel that way? Do you really feel that way?

To know God Dee, is to Love God. Feelings are VERY misleading - we walk by faith Dee, not by sight or feeling.

God is Love. God shows us Mercy, His mercies are new everymorning, great is His faithfulness. The word tells us that "He is faithful even when we are faithless."

Go through scripture and write down on index cards the ones that speak to your heart. "I have loved you with an everlasting love." Repeat them over every day, all day long. God will allow the power of the spoken word to premeate your being. Talk to God. Tell Him how you feel. His understanding is infinite.
---Donna5535 on 4/12/10


One of the challenges of "feeling" whether God's loves a person or not, seems to stem from the pyschological relationship one had with their personal earthly father.

Objectively, people need to study YHWH as revealed in Scripture, and apply Who God is and how He relates, loves, each individual.

As I heard someone say one time, "We will never know anything from our feelings except how we feel, but we may feel a little bit better because of what we know."
---Rod4Him on 4/12/10


pt1
here is the reason
many are in bondage of this equation

obedience=blessing
disobedience = curse

their thinking is to please god & when a person suffers, his first thought is SIN. many are trying to apply the verses in the bible, but the 'sermon' they hear during sunday are weak & shallow.
in the book of job, his neighbors, ephilaz, bildad concluded that god is punishing job for some hidden sin or that job committed sin. many believe that for every suffering god is punishing them (which is hate, or the wrath of god)
---mike on 4/12/10


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pt2

and the messages you hear sunday are 'obey, self is sin, sacrifice, admit your mistakes, give your 10%' because you will be BLESSED WHEN YOU OBEY

but when you fail (bec. of lack of knowledge & understanding) suffering occurs & it is a message of punishment (or hate) from god.

& I have seen christians who accuse of others of sin but they themselves justify the same 'sin' they accuse others of.
---mike on 4/12/10


to john

'take comfort in being chastised?'

christians get defensive when others expose their sins, & use this common justification of their sin by saying 'ye not judge me'

there is lack of proper explanation to those who seek answers on HOW DOES THE BIBLE APPLY IN THE REAL WORLD.

when the church gives the right answers, there is no chastisement needed.
---mike on 4/12/10


Dee, one thing we need to remember, FAITH has nothing to do with FEELINGS. Feelings come and go, and can deceive a person. One day I might feel this and the next day it's Gone.

Faith is believing what God said, in spite how we might feel.


God is LOVE, He died for you even while you were a sinner. He loves you so much that no matter what, He wants you to tell Him how and why you are thinking the way you think. He will replace your thoughts with HIS WORD if you read His word, and believe His word.

That's what the devil doesn't want you to do, robbing you of faith and peace of mind!!
---kathr4453 on 4/12/10


so if god loves us & he sent his son to die for our sins then HOW will that grace apply in the real world?

life is complex & has many issues like
money, success, self, self confidence, free will, free choice. and since many have lost their jobs, how does one conduct job interview, how do you project self confidence, negotiate in customer service. these are issues that are not taught in the bible.
what you hear are verses like tithe & 10%, self denial, christ confidence, christ reliance, sevanthood, submission. and when you obey, god will take care of everything.
---jim on 4/12/10


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So take comfort in being chastised, God's face is toward you again when before it was turned away. A new convert might feel no hatred, God has said: "I take no pleasure in backsliding". So the intensity of His hatred is measured against how far we have slid, with the slow walk of shame back to the Gospel being self-revealing - ugly. God is not mocked. So our Father doesn't just send us to our room where we can play records and call our friends, we are to work it off. Don't be deceived like those who believe that the Kingdom of God returned to them full tilt overnight, they are in the false church. For many, God is a Santa or Easter Bunny who just keeps on giving expecting nothing in return, our blessing are numbered.
---John_II on 4/12/10


Dee: Well-meaning Christians will tell you that God loves you and you are only punishing yourself, but that won't stop you feeling God's glower as shards of lightning to your chest. The world teems with sin, but there are those that come right up before Him. Take the man who commits murder, a heinous crime, but say other than that his heart is right with God. Now take the man who isn't so obvious a criminal: proud, mocking, slandering, crude, immoral, etc, and that he corrupts many in his vile ways. Who does God hate? So the murderer does his penance and feels God's grace immediately, but the self-righteous need refining in the furnace and dross separating. And though He may hate you during the smelting process, He does it because He loves you.
---John_II on 4/12/10


Our Apostle Paul speaks in 2 Corinthians 4:4 of "the god of this age". Satan is the one who is known as the "god" of this evil world. And he is about hate. So, if you are feeling hated by "God", you need to get away from that one and get with Jesus who loves us so much, that He is pleased He came to this earth to share with us and suffer and die for us, like He did. Jesus had so much going for Him in Heaven, and yet Jesus is so unconceited, that Jesus left Heaven itself to come here on earth to be with us. So, Jesus is not conceited, but loves us this personally. And He can feel for us, because He has been through things, here, like we go through (Hebrews 4:15) (c:
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/11/10


Great point, shary8757

He does however hate sin, which separates us from him and that's probably when one feels God hates them.
---aka_joseph on 4/11/10


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if God hates us or not is a matter of our perception, not His...John 3:16.

BTW, love used in this verse is not an icky, sticky, fuzzy feeling. His love is based on commitment and sacrifice.
---aka_joseph on 4/11/10


I can't say I feel God hates me. However, there has been times I've questioned his love for me. Particularly, in times of suffering,hardship, and trials. God is love. So, inspite of what we go through I don't believe he hates us. He does however hate sin, which separates us from him and that's probably when one feels God hates them.


shary8757
---shary on 4/11/10


dee,feelings will deceive you,we are to live by every word that comes from God.
---tom2 on 4/11/10


Dee: God forgives your sin and loves you. Now, you must forgive yourself and understand Him. It is you that does not love you. Seek God with everything you have. Another thing is that the devil loves to cause people to think that they are not good enough to be saved or loved by God. It is a very twisted lie and the direct opposite of Gods nature and plan.
---jody on 4/11/10


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"Does anyone out there feel God hates you?"
Dee, to "feel" that "God hates you" is to rely much to much on how "you" feel.
Anyone with any 'true' knowledge of our Father will take Him at His word, "God is Love. With Whom there is no variation or shadow due to change." (RSV)
---Josef on 4/11/10


God loves you so much He created you to have you to love to start with.

Why else do you think you exist?

This is the objective truth, regardless of how you are feeling. (And our feelings are NOT reliable guides to objective reality, especially in spiritual matters.)

OTOH, depression (from whatever cause)is frequently used by the devil to get us to doubt or even deny God's love.

And don't forget, the attitude that "I'm lowlier and more sinful than thou, and not even God will save me," can be nothing but a manifestation of the same spiritual pride the Pharisee of the Lord's parable showed.

In fact, it's the other end of it.
---Cluny on 4/10/10


It would be very difficult to love a God who I thought hated anyone.
---ger.toshav on 4/10/10


dee,you couldn,t be more wrong,God sent his son to die for you.John 3-16,for God so LOVED the world, that he sent his only son,theres more but the point is God hates no one.
---tom2 on 4/10/10


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