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Should Wife Have More Kids

Should wife in her late 30's have more children to please husband of six years, even if she does not want any more, they have a toddler together and she has one child finishing high school?

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Andy3996 -- As for donations to "televangelists", I have no figures. But none of the Christians I know contribute to them. I'm guessing that most Christians involved in a church in their own community, do not give (or give only a token amount) to televangelists... unless they consider them to be their own personal "pastor".
---Donna66 on 6/1/10


Andy3996 -- USA Today reports that Americans gave nearly $300 billion to charitable causes in 2006 (latest figures I could find) Excluding donations for disaster relief, the total rose 3.2%, (inflation-adjusted), according to the Giving USA Foundation at Indiana University.
Individuals donors gave a combined 75.6% of the total. With bequests (in a will) that rises to 83.4%.

The biggest chunk of the donations, $96.82 billion or 32.8%, went to religious organizations.

About 65% of middle income families donate to charity.
Non-profit Charitable organizations may be exempt from some taxes, but individual donors get a receipt that that may entitle THEM to a tax deduction in the amount of their donation.
---Donna66 on 6/1/10


Donna, without being judgemental, since i was a part of all that, but how much does the average westerner give for the poor? not you personally , since it is always those who do give that are hurt when such a thing is said, but any average Christian around you. if a missionary comes, how much does that person really put in? and how many times does he do that 100 dollars or euros is a lot, but if it is a one-time giving from someone who has an average 2000 dollars monthly income, it is nothing. when a beggar is on the street, even i was told that some organisations can give a slip for sponsors to ghet a refund from the state on their donation to a good work,
---Andy3996 on 6/1/10


SUSAN 2 now it is calculated that the churches in general spend less then one percent of their budget on missionwork (local and internationaly)and that if not for the work of some notorious TELE evangelists there would be entire regions (EVEN IN THE WEST) banned from the word of God, but then as soon any name of these preachers is mentioned nothing but Critisism is vommited. "they ask too much can they not stop begging and so forth is the common though of general christianity". i do believ i am right when i say that the heart of the west is poor because of their riches.
PS i was not only talking about the US, Europe is even worse.
---Andy3996 on 6/1/10


Donna and exactly how much does it increase by?? Obewan may have the more accurate answer ...seeing I am a mother who had her second round of kids in my early 40's without incident ...my younger children under 10yo go to school with children whose parents are in LATE 50's conceiving in their LATE 40's

I went to school in 70's in a large city can count dozens of kids whose parents were well into their 40's when they were born ....know many women who had their FIRST child in their late 40's

FEAR is from WORLD and people in it ...True Christians live by FAITH

I feel sorry for women who live by the "faith" of the medical profession and their statistics instead of looking around to see proof otherwise
---Rhonda on 5/29/10




Rhonda -- the incidence of birth defects increases in the late thirties and the forties...particularly tri-somy 21 (Downs Syndrome). Many women know this and are fearful.
Non- believers often solve this simply by aborting a Downs syndrome baby...but this option would not be considered by most believers.
---Donna66 on 5/26/10
Yes, but the increase in risk is a very small number. Something like 2 or 3% increase if I am not mistaken. Still a 90 some percent chance of a healthy baby.
---obewan on 5/26/10


Rhonda -- the incidence of birth defects increases in the late thirties and the forties...particularly tri-somy 21 (Downs Syndrome). Many women know this and are fearful.
Non- believers often solve this simply by aborting a Downs syndrome baby...but this option would not be considered by most believers.
---Donna66 on 5/26/10


An17gel did wife marry to have a provider for her and older child?

Amazing most marriages today couples never discuss kids - how many to have how to raise etc

women have children well into their late 40's ...unsure why late 30's would be an issue unless there is a medical reason

would be nice for toddler to have a sibling however having children is not a way to please a spouse as religious christianity dictates with their lies - many cannot have children making it impossible for women to only please husband by having a child if she or husband could not procreate ...like most of religious christianity the double standards of mens ideas and opinions are unsupported by Holy scripture
---Rhonda on 5/25/10


Nana,

Lol
---Carla on 5/22/10


"As for the birth control thing, if God wanted us to control birth by any particular means he would have placed a few more scriptures in the bible other than,..."
Pull and Spill is Russian Roulette, Carla.

Matthew 19:12: "... and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."
Bearing record that abstinence or impotency are the only sure means of birth control. 'Impotency' is capitalized in other less effective means like the 'pill',
condoms, the rhithm (Not in the Bible).
But if you get a headache do you use aspirin, or a cut, do you use antiseptic, or do you just Ace-Wrap the affected area with Tefilin?
---Nana on 5/21/10




I read your post but you only get half a amen for tham because you failed by scripture to make your points stand!

As for the birth control thing, if God wanted us to control birth by any particular means he would have placed a few more scriptures in the bible other than,

Gen 38:9
And Onan knew that the seed should not be his, and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled [it] on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
---Carla on 5/19/10


Andy3996--
You claim the "west" has the best of everything. From your description, it sounds like you are equating the "west" with North America.
the best of everything, yet the west has the worst heart,

How do you determine this? How do you know how much people in the "west" give (or don't give) to the starving, needy and homeless of the world?
How does eating pizza in front of TV pictures of needly children, prove a "bad heart"?
---Donna66 on 5/18/10


then again, the West has so much good, if only they could learn how to share. and to say grace. instead of fulfilling it upon al kinds of decadent ideas.
the best films, the best music, the best roads, he best infrastructure the best healthcare the best of everything, yet the west has the worst heart, in the west one can look at tv eating a nuked pizza to the journal showing a baby dying of hunger. I was part of all that, but thank God Jesus openened my eyes, and no i cannot save or help all, but maybe that child i helped could be a next Mandela, Ghandi or even a next Martin Luther King or Lincoln.
the extra child i ghot, could end up being a saviour (not like Jesus) for his generation. you see what i mean?
---Andy3996 on 5/18/10


My dream is that the rich will honour God with their riches so that the poor will bless them. but then again, i do not Cout with men's heart, even here in Africa the rich do not care about the poor, the foreigners and the weak and orphans. but as long as I know Christ there will be Hope, after all If God wanted Children, then his children in his image should also desire children.
---Andy3996 on 5/18/10


That children grow hungry? that is the fault of evil men, not that of God not of their parents or anyone else, i agree that parent that are to poor should do some kind of family planning. yet most poor parents cannot afford the "family planning products" on the market, besides the poor parents here who have no children are really in for troubles because with no health or social security whatsoever who's going to take care for them when they old? the rich west?
---Andy3996 on 5/18/10


pg1 you say they errected a monument to themself, and that is exactely what they where doing in clutching toghether. (Genesis 11:4)the tower was going to be a symbol of their suprematy, yet they forgot there was one that told them otherwise. God scattered them because they where thinking selfish unrighteous and rebelious.they clutched toghether instead of spreading out.
Now that is exactely what happens when someone does not want children. they consider their pressent state above the future progress that God brings them. that is why there are frontiers to keep riches in and the needy out. bassically, as many great societies before their own decadence will destroy the rich west. its only a matter of time.
---Andy3996 on 5/18/10


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Mary, it apears to me that you don't take Genesis very serious. and to tell you the truth i admit that before i got married i would have said og puleeze in one accord with you. i must say that when i met my wife, she was the first woman i imagined to have a child with. (and this is not sexually). however marriage is to produce an increase. Europe now has a problem because of this puleeze attitude, people have to work longer, and harder have a private (unpayable) pension insurance etc. all because the average family had less then three children. sin (dissobediance to God) always punnishes itself.
---Andy3996 on 5/18/10


Carla -- Doctors say that That by age fifty. 70% to 80% of women have fibroids
(80% for African American women.)They are due to muscle cells in the womb that enlarge, (probably a genetic trait).. no relationship to a womens ova, fertilized or not.
Many women who have fibroids are never aware of it, having no symptoms.

Some fibroids decrease the chance of pregnancy. But women who have had several children have a slightly lower incidence of fibroids.
---Donna66 on 5/15/10


Donna 66,

Whether this is a black generation thing?
I just don't know I am telling you what I posted is evident.

read my older posts you'll find I have argued that some have been virgins never married. where I argued where they stood not committing fornication just to fulfil their right to marriage as the remarried people commit Adultery. Yet having to face Having to have their wombs out due to fibroids.
---Carla on 5/14/10


the less periods one has, the longer one lives.

What you don't carry naturally the womb makes it's own FIBROIDS!


I don't think either of these "theories" is based on medical facts! Even if they were true, are these a good reasons to have children?

That would mean the lady should be pregnant as often as possible!
Are you forgetting that EVERY pregnancy and birth is a risk to health (including possibility of death)?

---Donna66 on 5/13/10


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the less periods one has, the longer one lives.
SO why not?
If she has good eggs why let themgo to waste?
---francis on 5/13/10


Faith,
is substance of things hoped for, needed and desired, evidence of what cannot be seen by your physical eyes, your assurance, your confirmation, your title deed of things, proof of things not seen, conviction of their reality, perception as real fact what is not revealed to senses, leaning of your entire personality on God in Christ in absolute trust and confidence in His power, wisdom and goodness.
---Carla on 5/10/10


ABSOLUTELY NOT. She will be doing most of the work, anyhow. Any wife should have a right on whether or not she wants one, two, three, six,or 0 kids....Too many people in the world now. More people, more sins.
---catherine on 5/10/10


What you don't carry naturally the womb makes it's own FIBROIDS!
---Carla on 5/10/10


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Andy3996,
You are incorrect about Babel. They were trying to build a city with a tower as a monument to themselves. God confused their language so that they could not complete their project.
Gen. 11:1-9
---pg1 on 5/5/10


Loy, we already have over-crowded schools, more kids on welfare than we'll ever need, kids going hungry in other countries that have "produced" the living daylights out of themselves.
---Mary on 5/5/10


The Bible tells us to produce as many children as we possibly can to expand God's kingdom. If you have the capacity to produce more children why should you hesitate to use it?
---Loy on 5/5/10


Andy: Oh, puh-leeeze!! :/
---Mary on 4/26/10


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if the woman is correct she will desire as her husband, only two children? you are not incresing anything in this world. at least three children, should be good. (i have four children, two boys two girls), and take care of an abandoned child,
remember that was part of God's command in Genesi to Adam and to Noach, that was the reason why Babel was dispersed with languages. not wanting to increase.
---Andy3996 on 4/26/10


She should talk it over with her husband on both sides of the issue. I've been married 10yrs & I have 1 daughter turning 11 from an ex, & my husband & I have 3 boys of our own ages 9 ,5, & 21months. I'm 32yrs old,physically exhausted chasing my toddler around..my 5 yr old has hyper tension dysorder,so I'm chasing two around our apartment all day. The older 2 are in school, but my mothering side wants one more in hopes for another girl,but my health & my husband say "NO!" I am happy with Gods gifts already, so this lady should show her husband they already have a gift(or two,three..)from God & are happy with what they got.
---candice on 4/23/10


\\Cluny-- I meant procreation-- to beget or bring forth offspring-- For humans, most of the time, this requires sexual intercourse, which requires two particpants.
---Donna66 on 4/21/10\\

Then what do YOU see as the difference between procreation and having a baby?
---Cluny on 4/21/10


Cluny-- I meant procreation-- to beget or bring forth offspring-- For humans, most of the time, this requires sexual intercourse, which requires two particpants.
---Donna66 on 4/21/10


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\\Cluny,
Sorry if I misread your post. Seeking God's will would be the most important thing.
---Donna66 on 4/20/10\\

It's something easy to do here.....
---Cluny on 4/20/10


Cluny,
Sorry if I misread your post. Seeking God's will would be the most important thing.
---Donna66 on 4/20/10


\\I'm not normally a feminist, but it seems to me as if husband and wife should have equal input in this decision... just as they do in procreation.\\

Donna, procreation does NOT mean sexual intercourse.

My on-line dictionary defines "procreate" as "to bring forth young."
---Cluny on 4/20/10


Cluny wisdom dictates there will be some normal babies born to older mothers but the facts are still in place,that doesn't erase them,and it doesn't make it a bit better for those who aren't normal. Any man who makes their wishes all important with no consideration for the woman who has to carry the baby and take care of it probably 90% of the time,is immature,selfcentered,and unfeeling. The Bible tells a man to love the wife as Christ loves the church and gave himself for it. If a man loves like that he won't insist on his own way no matter how the woman feels. Women are told to submit but not blindly to their own hurt or as a mans slave. No woman should submit to a man when it may be harmful to her physically, emotionally or spiritually.
---Darlene_1 on 4/20/10


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Hi Cluny, what subject is your doctorate? Just curious.
---Alan on 4/20/10


\\There is a higher risk of having a baby with chromosome related birth defects including the child being retarded with Down Syndrome,and physical birth defects,at age 35 the risk is 1 in 400 births,at 40 the risk is 1 in 100 compared to 1250 at age 25\\

I was born just before my mother's 36th birthday, and I'm the first in my family to have a doctorate.

I've met plenty of people who were late-in-life babies who are perfectly normal.

BTW--the "you" I was referring to was both the woman and her husband whom she wants to deprive of offspring. They should BOTH seek God to see what HE wants, because HIS wishes are paramount in this matter.
---Cluny on 4/20/10


Husbands demands are wrong. There are several reasons not to have children at her age. There is a higher risk of having a baby with chromosome related birth defects including the child being retarded with Down Syndrome,and physical birth defects,at age 35 the risk is 1 in 400 births,at 40 the risk is 1 in 100 compared to 1250 at age 25. There is a greater risk in problems in older woman during with the pregnancy and delivery,and frankly an older mother doesn't have as much physical stamina to keep up with two small children,oh yes the likelyhood of having twins increases after age 35. You see the husband isn't making a harmless request his demands could bring the wife complications and the bad effect on the family may last for a lifetime.
---Darlene_1 on 4/20/10


Donna66,

I may be wrong, but I think that "you" might be plural, and "HE" might be God in context of "...have BOTH of you sought God's will about this?"
---aka_joseph on 4/19/10


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Donna ... I think you misread Cluny. By HE, I think Cluny did not mean the husband, but God.
Otherwise what you say, whilst sad, makes a lot of sense.
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/20/10


Donna, I think Cluny uses HE to mean God, not her husband, though I am not sure.

The problem is when the husband and wife have differences about what they feel God is telling them.

As the wife, I would also be nervous because being pushed too much to have another child could also cause difficulties later within the family.
---peter3594 on 4/20/10


Cluny -- //What you want means very little compared with what HE wants, you know.//

You are likely to get some argument on this. Are you saying her feelings matter less than his...when SHE spends a possibly miserable 9 mo. carrying the child? (you do not know what she has experienced in past pregnancies). SHE copes with the hormonal changes afterward? And more than likely SHE provides almost all the care of that child (for up to 20 yrs)?. Caring for a toddler can be demanding. Maybe she just feels worn out.
I'm not normally a feminist, but it seems to me as if husband and wife should have equal input in this decision... just as they do in procreation.
---Donna66 on 4/19/10


I am inclined to say no for a number of reasons. Unless she really wants to have another child, she has no business having on to please someone else. if she is 39 now, she would be 57 when the child is 18. There is still a 50% probability the marriage will fail. Then she is a single mother in her 50s and that is not good. Unless she is owns her own business or is in upper management of a company she has a very high probability of being terminated when she is 48 or 49. Companies desire a younger work force for many reasons, cost of salaries and insurance and adaptability to change. Being a single parent at 57 - 61 and trying to put a child through college really should not give her warm fuzzes,
---Friendly_Blogger on 4/19/10


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You've not said how old your husband is, or why you don't want another child. Why would you NOT want to please him?

Is there a real medical or economic issue why you don't want more children?

Or do you simply not want more than two.

And have BOTH of you sought God's will about this?

What you want means very little compared with what HE wants, you know.
---Cluny on 4/19/10


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