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Do Men Have Woman Authority

My christian husband believes all men have authority over EVERY woman. From a Godly man to the scum of the earth man... a woman must submit to him. I will submit to God, husband, father church leaders, boss, civil, government. Your opinion PLEASE!

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 ---Betty on 4/23/10
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Your husband is a very misguided and ill-informed man. My prayers to you. You are in a tough situation wit this man. If he is misguided in this area, i shudder to think about more serious issues that you and he has to work on.
---Robyn on 7/3/10


Francis -- what if the father is deceased?
---Donna66 on 6/30/10
Genesis 43:33 And they sat before him, the firstborn according to his birthright, and the youngest according to his youth: and the men marvelled one at another.

Then it falls to the first born male as part of the birthright. The first born male gets the "lion's share" of the inheritance, and his duty is to care for all the women, and the younger people in the gamily.

Now when there are no male figures, It falls to the elders and judges.
---francis on 7/1/10


Francis -- what if the father is deceased?
---Donna66 on 6/30/10


--Rhonda on 6/29/10
Imagine a world where every women must obey EVERY man ... And every man obeys God.

But the authority lies forst with the husband, in absence of a husband it is the father see numbers 30



Numbers 30:3 If a woman also vow a vow unto the LORD, and bind herself by a bond, [being] in her father's house in her youth,

Numbers 30:4 And her father hear her vow, and her bond wherewith she hath bound her soul, and her father shall hold his peace at her: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand.
---francis on 6/30/10


problem with that line of thinking is your husband would not want to deal with my husband if he were to attempt to make me submit to him

Imagine a world where every women must obey EVERY man ...so whose authority is more important your father, brother, husband, neighbor man, mailman - which man?

Aside from pure ignorance it is not orderly and obvious total chaos

Christ state he OBEYED The Father in Heaven IN EVERYTHING ...Christ leads church giving MEN authority OVER their wives ...one must IMPLY men have been given authority over ANY other women ...which is why ministers do not have authority over women in church AND why women do not lead in church

women without husbands have a far more difficult spiritual road
---Rhonda on 6/29/10




Francis --- Thanks for your thoughts on this.
I've never had an answer from anyone... yet I didn't feel I was in any way living in disobedience.
---Donna66 on 6/28/10


Donna wel some applies to you, and some don't

1 Timothy 5:16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged, that it may relieve them that are widows indeed

1 Timothy 5:3 Honour widows that are widows indeed.

1 Timothy 5:4 But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God.

1 Timothy 5:5 Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day.


AT this point in time it has more to do with how the men treat you that thier authority* over you.
---francis on 6/28/10


Francis -- I'm a senior citizen. But I've been alone for a number of years, now.
I sometimes wonder, when I hear these teachings about male authority and a woman needing a man for "covering", how does that apply to me? Or does it? (I've never attended a church that taught on this).

I've had to be self-sufficient because there never was any one able (or willing) to help me.
I've made a few financial blunders, but none worse than any of the men I've observed. Now I am totally debt-free. I trust God to look out for me in every way... and He does!
---Donna66 on 6/28/10


---Donna66 on 6/25/10
1 Corinthians 7:32 But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:

Titus 2:3 The aged women likewise, that [they be] in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things,

Titus 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

Titus 2:5 [To be] discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

If you are young maybe aged women have some authority if no male figure
---francis on 6/28/10


Betty: It sounds like your husband is a Muslim rather than a Christian.
---jerry6593 on 6/26/10




Well I have Authority over my woman!
Anytime, we have even the smallest argument!
I make her come to me on her knees!
Why, sometimes I even make her bring the broom!
This is the only way she can reach me under the bed!

Yea, if she not your partner in life, than she your slave!
A wife should be your equal, one flesh!
And how can I have authority over another man wife?
Or how can I let a man have authority over me or mine?
Will I let a stranger have authority over my child.


Call no man father! The only one who has authority is Christ!
---TheSeg on 6/25/10


Nobody has told me if they think I need to be submissive to a man, since I'm not married and have no father or older male relatives (no younger male relatives either!)

Any ideas? I consider that Jesus is my "husband", the One to whom I must submit.
---Donna66 on 6/25/10


very good question.
Only her husband has authority over her.
Which means, that there are times when a pastor must speak to the husband and ask him to speak to his wife concerning some issues.

A pastor must NEVER aproach a wife directly, because he is not her husband!

The pastor himself has no authority over another man's wife.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

there are four other text like this that says THEIR OWN Husband.
Not someone elses husband.

very good question
Question of the year
---francis on 6/25/10


I believe God is talking to his children, otherwise people do as they like and are judged as God likes!
---Carla on 6/22/10


Robyn-- He does not understand the things of God and probably never will

Such a hopeless outlook. If a woman can pray for wisdom concerning her own life, surely she can pray the same for her husband. Pray that the Lord heals his insecurities, teaches him and shows him what real Godly leadership in the family is like. Sometimes people DO change (even if it is slowly). Pray for more fruit of the Spirit in your own life...love, joy, peace etc. and don't forget Patience! (long-suffering).
---Donna66 on 6/22/10


Uh-oh! You have gotten tied down with a christian nut. That is one of the worse kind of men to be tied down to,in my opinion. He has learned just enough about the bible to beat you over the head with it( pharisee) He does not understand the things of God and probably never will. God bless you my sister. You have a humongous problem on your hands. Go down in prayer and fasting.....quick. Ask God for wisdom and understanding dealing with this situation. It is great.My prayers are with you.
---Robyn on 6/22/10


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dear betty a man has authority over his wife, AS CHRIST over the church, does Christ bully yel and so forth? no man has any authority over my wife, and i am there to make sure any man remembers that, a pastor may have authority over my wife as her spiritual leader, but that is a question of Christian authority. it is true that there are still men who live in the stone ages of before Moses. may God help them to ghet deliverance.
---Andy3996 on 6/22/10


Well, I have been without a husband for many years now. Do I need to submit to any man...beside maybe my pastor? (He only advises me spiritually).

I make my own business decisions (except when I need legal advice). The physical work that I cannot do, I hire someone to do. I have some married couples who are dear friends. I sometimes run things by both husband and wife, to get another opinion.
I absolutely trust the Lord to take care of me, which He ALWAYS does, in surprising ways sometimes.

I'm retired, but always submitted to my employer (regardless of sex) and government authorities. I submit to the Lord. Why should I submit to anyone else?
---Donna66 on 6/22/10


Jesus and your husband , even if he is not riteous they are to have authority over you. Not every man ! Should your husband happen be a non believer he would be able to see your christ like example and change. other wise you would be letting yourself in for a whole heap of trouble. The unriteous man could order us to do anything and we would have no choice. Our husbands would just have to live with the consequences. They could use another mans wife to do their dirty work, rob, kill, sex, lie. The bible says wives submit to your OWN husbands. eph 5:22, col 3:18, 1 pet 3:1 not every man you come across who tells you to do something.
---sheila on 6/19/10


It would seem to me that if there were a god and heaven, that god would be able to clearly communicate his requirements for entry into it.
So god must be a very poor communicator, ---
Atheist

No, you/many are poor listners.
GOD never said he communicated with everyone or would. In your case it is obvious.....in quite a few on here actually.
Ezekiel 2:2
And the spirit entered into me when he spake unto me, and set me upon my feet, that I heard him that spake unto me.
Ezekiel 8:18
Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.
---Trav on 4/27/10


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Being human I sometimes fails.

Then again some beliefs are so out there, ridiculously stupid, ego-driven, ludicrously delusion, etc.,I have no limitations on my willingness to denigrate a belief and the stupidity of the person espousing it---atheist on 4/24/10

Well we have pretty well established there is no order in your relationships, who ever they are with. Which one of you agressively pursued the other one? That normally is the man. Which one of you carries the sword to protect your closet unit? That would be the man....normally. Christians...kind like the order....since males tend to be ...males and in other days...defense and strength requirements worked better that way. Of course then you have the other stuff....
---Trav on 4/27/10


All men dont have authority over all women. Genesis 3:16 God cursed Eve for sin,that her desire shall be to her husband,he shall rule/have power over her. Your husband is the only man God gave power over you. The Authority other men have is the same over male and female alike and is a leadership authoriy not given by God although they may be called to Pastor by God. It tells women to be silent in church,as thus says the law,the reference,Genesis 3:16,it is the law of her husband,then it turns right around and says let them ask their husbands at home,its not about authority but about order in the church. Men and women sat on different sides of the church and women were asking questions across the church and causing a disturbance.
---Darlene_1 on 4/25/10


Betty, there is a limit to authority. No-one can have full authority over any other person.

There are implications in the bible that, in the household, the husband has a higher authority than the wife, but ONLY when that is done in love - for the wife, for the family, for God

Other authority need not be obeyed
---peter3594 on 4/25/10


My husband is good to me even though he believes men out rank women.
---Betty on 4/25/10


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This may not be what you intended, but what you posted seems to mean that any man can tell any woman what to do, and she must do so.

Can you clarify?
---Cluny on 4/24/10


"But Peter and the apostles answered, 'We must obey God rather than men.'" (Acts 5:29) I'd say that with men a woman should be respectful and humble and submissive, but not do whatsoever a man says.
Have you talked with your husband about exactly what he means?
One woman told me the Lord told her to be an example at work. So, she was wearing herself down, by rescuing customers who were neglected by their own waitresses. Her husband told her not to waste herself, like that. But she felt he was contradicting how Jesus said to be an example. I offered, that our example includes doing things in Jesus Christ's "rest for your souls." (in Matthew 11:29) The contradiction was in how she understood the Lord and her husband (c:
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/24/10


There is no scripture to support your husband's silly notion. He appears to be a control freak when it comes to women. As a married woman, I submit to my husband who is a Godly man who follows the leading of the Lord. If I were a single woman, I would submit to God. I am sure that I would never consider submitting to your husband or any other man to whom I was not married. As a member of a church, as a single woman, I would submit to the pastor as long as he continued to preach the truth. The minute he gets off on his own teachings I would leave.
---KarenD on 4/24/10


No. Not the slave way "you do this or else."Or another word Abuse of any kind. However on the flipside we are our husbands helpmeets/mates so he should respect & treat us as Christ does with the church. Same with women,respect your husbands.
---Candice on 4/24/10


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I try to be cautiously civil when I comment here in regard to other people's beliefs. Being human I sometimes fails.

Then again some beliefs are so out there, ridiculously stupid, ego-driven, ludicrously delusion, etc., that I have no limitations on my willingness to denigrate a belief and the stupidity of the person espousing it.

I will comment on your husband another time,----I need to find the words.

But when he says "Fetch!" do you look around first to see if he talking to the dog?
---atheist on 4/24/10


betty,there are idiots everywhere,ungodly men have authority,in my opinion over no one,and if a godly man is wrong it is everyones obligation too point out the errors of his ways,IN LOVE,and allow the spirit to work in his life.the bible clearly teaches that every woman should submitt to her own husband,and also clearly teaches ti mind your own business,meaning that men who are strangers have no right to attempt to control another mans wife,personally I have enough trouble dealing with my 3 grown daughters,and 2 x wives,why would I,or for that matter,any man want to take on any more women? ha ha ha,joke.
---tom2 on 4/24/10


Gods word is clear,women are to submitt to their husbands,children submitt to their parents,we all submitt to God,and to our leaders.
---tom2 on 4/24/10


The only authority that any man has over any woman is the authority the woman willingly submits to him.
---joseph on 4/23/10


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