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In heaven, will I see God the Father, or is Jesus the only "visible" one of the Trinity?

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David8318
Thank you for explaining!


Isa 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen:
that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:
before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

I, even I, am the LORD, and beside me there is no savior.

I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you:
therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.


Other translations render him as 'divine' or a 'divine being'.
I'll say!
---TheSeg on 5/18/10


According to some, the Word was "a god".
Jesus, the Word, being there since the beginning, and without The Word nothing was created.
Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Isa 42:8 I [am] the LORD: that [is] my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
It appears that some would have us believe that God is sharing his glory with "a god" since the beginning of creation up until:
Phi 2:6-8 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Polytheism?
---micha9344 on 5/18/10


The Seg- I apologise if I have sounded impatient with you.

Jesus as 'Logos' at John 1:1 is described as 'a god' or as a 'divine being' because that is how the verse is constructed- my previous post 5/18/10. It makes sense too that the 'Logos' is 'a god' and not 'the God' with whom he was 'with'. Context and Greek grammar agree.

Thus, it is mine and many others understanding that the 'Logos' (pre-human Jesus) in John 1:1 has the quality of being 'divine' or 'a god' but not given the title 'Almighty God'.

At Psalms 82:1-6,8 Judges of Israel were also called 'gods' because of their authority over people. Jesus as 'the Word' of God has every right therefore to be described also as 'a god'. (John 10:34-36)
---David8318 on 5/18/10


Mark V, Thank you for calling me friend (rare on this site)
Yes Mark God gave me a brain so that I "can" think , what's the alternative?? With hundreds of denominations all claiming to have the truth, are you suggesting that I fill my head full of their fluff?
How do you find a needle in a haystack? You burn it down and sift the ashes. This is how you find truth,burn up all the pagan garbage,mythology and false doctrine and "voila" -truth!
---1st_cliff on 5/18/10


The Seg- you ask: 'So is this the same God or an addition to God or another God?'

No, there is only one God. 'Theos' (god) is used at John 1:1 to describe the 'Logos', not identify him as 'the God' ('ho theos').

In layman's terms, it's rather much like if I say to you, "man was Peter". The word 'man' here describes what Peter is- 'a man'. If I say "the man was Peter", then the word 'man' identifies Peter as a definite individual man. The same with the way John 1:1 is constructed in Greek- "theos en ho logos" ('god was the word'). The word 'theos' does not have the definite article 'the' (as in 'ho theos' meaning 'the God').

'Logos' has the nature of theos, or in other words, 'logos' is 'a god'.
---David8318 on 5/18/10




Micha9344- I never said anything about Jesus sitting on God's throne.

Jesus as the 'Logos' prior to coming to earth was 'a god'. Other translations render him as 'divine' or a 'divine being'.

Trinitarians break rules of Greek grammar at John 1:1, but not at Acts 28:6. Why? Of course to support their Hellenic triune deity.

However, the resurrected heavenly Jesus will sit on his own throne as King of Jehovah's Kingdom when he comes to judge the nations as recorded at Matthew 25:21.

Your 1 John 5:7 interpolation- you're a tease. Can I suggest you meditate on Revelation 22:18.
---David8318 on 5/18/10


Please be patient with me. I am not correcting you or anything like that.
Believe me, when I say I am a very simple man. I am just trying to understand what you see.

Please explain, you just said:
A correct, non-Trinitarian rendering of John 1:1 will read and the Word was 'a god'. The singular predicate noun occurs before the verb.

So is this the same God or an addition to God or another God?
The bible clearly talks about only one God.
Or are you saying "was" and is no more?
Because it looks to me, you are still saying the word is/was a God
What is the difference in the reading?
How can the word be a God, and not be God?
---TheSeg on 5/18/10


MarkV- You've misunderstood my use of John 14:15. You misunderstand because you interrupted a thread with MarkEaton. My use of John 14:15 was in the form of a question, not supporting any argument. A question to which I am yet to receive an answer from MarkEaton.

My original question to MarkEaton on 5/14/10 was "If 'The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of our God and the Spirit of Jesus' (as you say), then why does Jesus request the spirit if it is already him?" I quoted what MarkEaton stated on 5/13/10.

I do know the Father, Jesus and the spirit are mentioned in John 14:15. But Jesus must 'request' the Father to send the 'Spirit'. So therefore, the HolySpirit is not something Jesus can automatically send by himself alone.
---David8318 on 5/18/10


The Word was a god?
Now who has more than One God sitting on the throne?
The John 1:1 part literally says God was the Word.
Did you mention 1 John 5:7 again?
1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
---micha9344 on 5/18/10


The Seg- I said I would not be wasting my time on this blog talking about the trinitarian interpolation at 1 John 5:7 to which you refer. Simply because it's a well known spurious verse.

Why don't you read what I said, rather than take it out of context. If you read the Bible the same way you read these blog posts, no wonder you guys have got it all wrong.

Do you think you're the first one to raise John 1:1? A correct, non-trinitarian rendering of John 1:1 will read and the Word was 'a god'. The singular predicate noun occurs before the verb. 'Theos' thus describes the 'logos', it doesn't identify him as the 'Theos'. The same rule of Greek grammar is seen at Acts 28:6.
---David8318 on 5/18/10




Romans 8:9-11 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin, but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Philippians 1:18-20 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached, and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice. For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
---micha9344 on 5/18/10


1Cliff, you are clay my friend, you are not God. You are trying to figure out God with your fleshly thinking. It is the humaness in you that you have no control of. Nothing I mention can help you. As Seg said, you have closed the door. You know what you think is right and nothing can convince you otherwise, only God. I say God because I am not here to convince you. I do not have that power my friend. As Seg said also, it is ok with me that you believe what you believe. You as a person have that right, and that is why you as a person will be held responsible. I am responsible for me.
Second, I do not laugh at this matters, they have eternal consequences.
---MarkV. on 5/18/10


This morning, I considered the music that I enjoy on the radio. I know there is a transmitter, signal, and receiver. If one does not function or is interfered with, then the others are useless. In a sense, they are all one. I really do not need to dissect the electronics or understand wave theory to enjoy the music, I just need to turn it on and enjoy.
---aka_joseph on 5/18/10


Now I don't know, you might think I am saying I am your teacher.
Obviously this would be a lie. John 6:45!

But, at the place I worked, I was of some impotents. If I told you to do something, I didn't have to stand over you to see it got done. My word had my full power, alone! If you didnt you were fired.
Maybe like the centurion in Mat 8:9

Well, you know Christ is the word of God. This is in the bible, right? John 1:14
I wonder if god word has any weight, by itself.

So in John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
(Right here) and the Word was God.
Help me out!
---TheSeg on 5/18/10


Mark V, I'm a father, a husband ,an uncle, grandfather,brother, son--- does that make me 6 persons in one ????
Same argument as yours!
---1st_cliff on 5/18/10


David8318
First I just want to be clear. Because you told me, I will not be wasting my time on this blog...
And now you say, Mark Eaton and TheSeg have a very...
So which is it?
I'll tell you straight-out taking about these things, can never be a waste of time!
But, the door must be open! If your door is close, hay Im good with that!
I have what you can say is an open door and no one can close it.
I let things in and I let them out again!

I am a cabinetmaker. Before I became a cabinetmaker, I had to listen to the words of my teacher. And put those words in to practice. Practice made me a cabinetmaker.
---TheSeg on 5/17/10


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David, giving John 14:15 does not make your argument correct at all. You spoke of all three persons in those passages. You do not see that because you do not want to. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, three persons. All with one Spirit, the Spirit of God. Why? because all three make the Godhead. God in all three persons, each one with a duty, The Father draws, the Son pay's with His blood on the cross, and the Spirit brings live to those who are lost, and seals them to the day of our Lord.
---MarkV. on 5/17/10


Surely MarkV can't be serious? Are you having a laugh or what MarkV? Please re-visit my post- 5/16/10- to which you refer and ask yourself if I have not posted any scriptural references?

I can see at least 2 which are relevant. John 14:15 where Jesus 'requests the Father' to send HolySpirit and 1 John 4:2,3 where the anti-Christ is exposed.

What do you mean I never posted any scripture references? Have you run out of things to say? Is your trinity doctrine so weak that you have to make up rubbish objections that have no basis in truth?

Why can't you trinitarians deal with the issues and actually answer some questions. HolySpirit is not the spirit of Christ because Jesus 'requests' HolySpirit from the Father- John 14:15.
---David8318 on 5/17/10


Mark Eaton and The Seg have a very dumbed down understanding of 'Elohim', which obviously suits their trinity mind-set. It suits them just right to stop at "Elohim is a plural in Hebrew",- end of story. They don't want to go beyond that to see what is actually written in the creation account.

'Elohim' is constructed with a singular verbal predicate. 'Elohim' thus takes a singular adjectival attribute when applied to YHWH (Jehovah). 'Elohim' is an 'intensive plural', denoting Jehovah's greatness and majesty.

All 35 times 'Elohim' appears in the creation account, the verb describing what YHWH said and did is in the SINGULAR number.

No 2nd, 3rd, 4th or any other person in the 'godhead'. Only one- Jehovah (YHWH).
---David8318 on 5/17/10


Mark Eaton proves trinitarians do worship a triad, the same as Babylon of old.

Mark Eaton says "I have never said that there is only one person who is God. There are THREE persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Please read my posts".

Trinitarians stop at 'Elohim is plural in Hebrew', without checking the facts because this is not entirely accurate when applied to YHWH, Jehovah.

But what it does show is trinitarians the likes of Mark Eaton are polytheists, worshipping a plurality of god's. As Mark says- "there are THREE persons". Trintarians copy the Babylonian system of triadic worship.

Trinitarians form a major part of 'Babylon the Great' today. (Rev.18:4)
---David8318 on 5/17/10


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David, if you want to discuss Scripture to make your case, show where the statement I made was wrong? You said,
"The Holy Spirit is not the spirit of Christ. Jesus (not God in the flesh) had to 'request the Father' to send Holy Spirit. If Jesus were 'God in the flesh' he would not have had to request the Holy Spirit."
You gave no Scripture just threw your opinion out. Then you said,
"Jesus was not 'God in the flesh' unless you are preaching what is anti-Christ." Where am I preaching what you said? You didn't give Scripture to show where I did that.
Cults throw a lot of passages without context to confuse, Mormons, Jehovah Witnessess are good at that. Stay with one context and you will get answers.
---MarkV. on 5/17/10


Do you realize that you're talking in contradictory terms??
1st you say that "He was speaking to Jesus, then the H.S." but all the while saying that all 3 are the same person,
---1st_cliff on 5/16/10

I have never said that there is only one person who is God. There are THREE persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Please read my posts.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/16/10


If (in the context of John 14:15) 'The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of our God and the Spirit of Jesus' (as you say), then why does Jesus request the spirit if it is already him?
---David8318 on 5/15/10

You must never have read this:

Phil 2:5-7 "Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men."

Jesus emptied himself so that the Spirit of God could be inside Him. He was no longer totally God (as He was before) but He was totally human.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/16/10


Philippians 2:6-8 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Jos 10:14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.
Mark 4:39,41 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?
---micha9344 on 5/16/10


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The longer I read those blogs, the more wild beliefs get.

Everyone wants to be a prophet or a Bible expert rather then a soul winner.

When a man starts desiring knowledge over love is when he tends to fall into deception.
---JackB on 5/16/10


David8318
Please forgive me! I didnt mean to waste your time on this blog commenting on such trivial matter, sorry! And please send my apology to all those many Bible scholars. You spook of!


You are right, God is a plural in Hebrew. Not a singular, not a dual, but a plural meaning three or more.
Amazing.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/15/10

I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father, for so it seemed good in thy sight.

God Bless
---TheSeg on 5/16/10


The HolySpirit is not the spirit of Christ. Jesus (not God in the flesh) had to 'request the Father' to send HolySpirit. If Jesus were 'God in the flesh' he would not have had to request the HolySpirit.

Despite what MarkV says, the trinity is not explained in John 14:15. Rather the opposite. Jesus is subordinate to the Father because he must 'request the Father' to send 'the spirit of the truth'.

Jesus was not 'God in the flesh' unless you are preaching what is anti-Christ. Jesus said 'God is a Spirit' (Jo.4:24). 'Anyone who does not confess Jesus as having come in the flesh... is anti-Christ' - 1 John 4:2,3.
---David8318 on 5/16/10


How can a man claim to have faith in God but doubt Gods power to keep His word safe throughout the ages.

Bad translations, bad interpretations. Notice how often that excuse is used to doubt something that is written in the Bible that we simply dont want to accept as truth.
---JackB on 5/16/10


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Idk why we ramble about things like this anyways. It has nothing to do with salvation in Christ. Just something for Christians to argue about amongst themselves.
---JackB on 5/16/10


1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
---micha9344 on 5/16/10


I mean if youre seriously asking us how God can be a trinity but yet 1 being why not ask us how God made the universe as well. Men have limited intellect sir.

Same as we know that we are made of atoms but we are clueless HOW or WHY atoms bond together the way they do to make us the organisms that we are. Are we 10billion people because we contain 10billion atoms? Sounds ridiculous doesnt it.

I dont think anyone here is saying we serve 3 gods. He is 1 God and manifested himself in 3 distinct ways. Is God so powerless that He cant separate himself into 3 manifestations. One- the ultimate authority, two- the savior, three - the comforter
---JackB on 5/16/10


The Seg & JackB- the interpolation at 1 John 5:7 to which you both refer, is a spurious passage trinitarians use in a vain attempt to support their doctrine and has been widely recognised by many Bible scholars as a spurious verse, commented on many times by myself and others here.

'The New American Bible', 'Good News Bible'- Todays English Version (1976), the 'Jerusalem Bible', 'The New English Bible' and the 'Revised Standard Version' are but some translations which omit this spurious trinitarian passage at 1 John 5:7.

This trinitarian interpolation holds no weight. I will not be wasting my time on this blog commenting any further on this trinitarian insertion.
---David8318 on 5/16/10


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David, there is no riddle in John 14:15 or v. 13, or 12. Jesus explained the whole Trinity with His statements. You are looking negatively instead of inpartial. Simple facts.
In their hour of loss at the departure of Jesus, (God in the flesh) He comforted them with the means that would provide them with the necessary resources to accomplish their task without His immedidiate presence which they had come to depend on.
1. Ask anything in My name: here the believers prayers should be for His purposes and kingdom and not for selfish reasons.
2. The believer's prayer should be on the basis of His merits and not any personal merit or worthiness,
3. The believers prayer's should be in pursuit of His glory alone, 16:26-28.
---MarkV. on 5/16/10


David 3: Jesus in His human form could could not endwell the believers, to be inside of their hearts, but through the Holy Spirit who is not flesh but Spirit, He could. The Holy Spirit was the Spirit of Christ which was send by the Father once Jesus had risen. And through the Holy Spirit working in the believers lives, thousands could now come to Christ, by hearing the Truth of the gospel. The Father send the Son, the Son died on the cross for our sins, and the Holy Spirit endwells all those who have put their faith in Jesus Christ works on the Cross. When Jesus says, I will be with you forever, it is because He is in us through His Spirit.
---MarkV. on 5/16/10


then why does Jesus request the spirit if it is already him? How do you 'riddle' yourself out of that one? -David8318

Co 1:21-24 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness, But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Baptism of Jesus was in the Jordan. Their were only Jews around. What's Savior Jesus to do? There were 18 verses in the four Gospels that said that the Jews require a sign.
---aka_joseph on 5/16/10


Mark Eaton, Do you realize that you're talking in contradictory terms??
1st you say that "He was speaking to Jesus, then the H.S." but all the while saying that all 3 are the same person, so He was (as I said) speaking about himself! albeit in majestic terms!
He was not speaking "to" but "about"..amazing is right!
BTW who recorded this conversation??
---1st_cliff on 5/16/10


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When applied to Jehovah, 'Elohim' is used as a plural of majesty, dignity, or excellence. (Ge 1:1)

Aaron Ember wrote: 'That the language of the OT has entirely given up the idea of plurality in 'Elohim'... is shown by the fact that it is construed with a singular verbal predicate, and takes a singular adjectival attribute.... 'Elohim' must rather be explained as an 'intensive plural', denoting greatness and majesty.'-The American Journal of Semitic Languages and Literatures, Vol. XXI, 1905, p. 208.

Thus, 'Elohim' draws attention to Jehovah's strength as the Creator. It appears 35 times by itself in the account of creation, and every time the verb describing what he said and did is in the singular number.

Now that's amazing.
---David8318 on 5/16/10


Mark Eaton- before I answer your 'riddle' which I can understand why it confuses you, perhaps you could try to answer my question posed previously:

If (in the context of John 14:15) 'The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of our God and the Spirit of Jesus' (as you say), then why does Jesus request the spirit if it is already him?

How do you 'riddle' yourself out of that one?
---David8318 on 5/15/10


I dont think its something that we can fully understand with our limited intellect.

Its just one of those things we have to accept by faith.

God is three persons yet One being.


I have toyed with the idea that maybe the "sons of God" (angels) were empowered by God to assist in the creation of man and maybe he was speaking to them as well. Could be where the "us" came from. Of course theres no scripture that Ive ever read to back that theory up.
---JackB on 5/15/10


"And God said let us" Notice here that the translators didn't say "Gods" said even tho God (Elohim) is plural! (it is not plural in number)
He could have said "I will make man in My image"
---1st_cliff on 5/15/10

Could have, should have, would have.

God did NOT say I will make man in my own image on PURPOSE because He was speaking to, at the minimum, Jesus but I believe He was also speaking to the Holy Spirit.

And before anyone else offers, He was not speaking to the Angelic majesties around Him, unless they are like God and I doubt that.

You are right, God is a plural in Hebrew. Not a singular, not a dual, but a plural meaning three or more.

Amazing.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/15/10


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Mark Eaton, Not all that mysterious of a riddle!
In "our" image is plural could be 2 or 3 or 20! Was God actually speaking "to" someone?? (this is assumed)
Truth is He was speaking about himself in the plural of majesty!
"And God said let us" Notice here that the translators didn't say "Gods" said even tho God (Elohim) is plural! (it is not plural in number)
He could have said "I will make man in My image"

According to Jn.1.1-3 Jesus (Logos) was "with" God therefore he was co-creator with the Father! No mystery here!
---1st_cliff on 5/15/10


1st_cliff and David8318:

Contrary to what you have posted, I believe in three persons, Father, Son, and Spirit, who are all God. They all share the "attributes" of God but they do not have the same "duties".

We think we understand God but how little we really know. In the OT, it was assumed that The Father created the heavens and the earth, yet in the NT we have learned it was Jesus. Similarly, all judgment once thought to be given by The Father, now we have learned has been given to Jesus.

Riddle me this.

Genesis 1:26 says "Then God said, 'Let us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness". Who was God speaking to?
---Mark_Eaton on 5/15/10


Cliff
Did you not know that places in the Bible where it gives the statement of Right-hand, it Is a designation of power & authority.

It's ALL In Jesus Christ.
You go ahead, fight against about All In Jesus Christ, at the end you'l lose.
---Lawrence on 5/15/10


1 John 5:7

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one



Father (God), Word (God who became flesh), Holy Ghost (God)


These three are one
---JackB on 5/15/10


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Sorry Mark V my post should have read Mark Eaton!
---1st_cliff on 5/15/10


The bible clearly talks about only one! God!
Not two or even three. There is only one.
God!

Is it so hard to understand, that he put his word in you.
Spoken by the body of, Christ!
Which you are if you receive, it!

But it's not his word that will finish you.
It is his spirit that will finish you, if you receive, it!

You, by your own words! Look for him inside you!
2000 thousand years and its still not enough time!

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
---TheSeg on 5/15/10


Mark Eaton- no matter how hard you look, nowhere in scripture is the HolySpirit referred to as God, not even 'a god'.

Yes, I agree with Peter's words. I 'have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ...'

My God is Jehovah and my Saviour is Jesus Christ His son.

Jesus said at John 14:15, 'I will request the Father and he will give you another helper to be with you forever, the spirit of the truth.' The Father (Jehovah) will send HolySpirit in Jesus' name to those asking.

If 'The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of our God and the Spirit of Jesus' (as you say), then why does Jesus request the spirit if it is already him?
---David8318 on 5/14/10


Mark V,When I say "you and me" I'm talking about 2 people..2Pet.1.1 "God and saviour" is talking about Father and son (2 persons)!

Lawrence, I already live in the frozen north! Sorry if I look agitated but false doctrine annoys me , when you try to label it "Christian".
Do you think when you study??
Psl.1.1 Says Christ "sits" at the Father's right hand! Explain how this is "one" person! (could it be a mirror on his right side?) It goes with the smoke and mirrors of this doctrine!
At Jesus' baptism was he a ventriloquist?
Scripture says here the H.S. was a bird!
---1st_cliff on 5/14/10


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David:

Sorry, you are in error.

2 Pet 1:1 "Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ"

Jesus is our God and Savior.

1 Cor 12:3 "Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, 'Jesus is accursed', and no one can say, 'Jesus is Lord,' except by the Holy Spirit.

Phil 1:19 "for I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayers and the provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ"

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of our God and the Spirit of Jesus.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/13/10


Cliff
NO errors.
Isa.9 v 8, Colo.2 v 9 Jesus Christ. He Is The Father The Son & The Holy Ghost. Jesus Christ, there's No other name given. 1 God & Jesus Christ Is His name.

Cliff, I detect you get heated about All in Jesus Christ( & It Is ALL in Jesus Christ). You should make your way, drive, catch a ride, skate-board, bicycle, run, hop-skip-jump to the nearest grocer & ask the person in charge if you can sit or stand in the milk or meat cooler for a few min's to cool off in the same shoes you get heated in.
---Lawrence on 5/12/10


The Holy Spirit is God. The Spirit proceeds from God and comes to work with man and to dwell in him. He is the counselor or advocate who is to replace the earthly Jesus. In the Old Testament he is credited with all the attributes of God Himself. He is, Omnipotent (Mic. 3:8, Acts 1:8, Romans 15:13,19) He is Omniscient (1 Cor. 2:10, Is. 40:13,14) Omnipresent (Ps 139:7) He is the giver of life and the one who resurrects the dead (Job 33:4, 1 Peter 3:18)and He is the one injured by our sin (Mark 3:29, Acts 5:3-4). He is also called Lord. Consider carefully the words of Paul in 2 Cor. 3:16-18.
---MarkV. on 5/12/10


Job 19:25-27 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another, though my reins be consumed within me.
---jerry6593 on 5/11/10


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Will you see God with your two eyes?
No! You will not see God with your two eyes!
So many people have two eyes right now and dont see.
Take a good look around you, do you see him?
Yet, he is all round you. So, no! Not with your eyes.
Didnt he say! It would be better!
If you were blind, then you would see!
Do you think he was talking about sight?
Are we only looking for the things we want?
What about your brothers?
God Bless.
---TheSeg on 5/10/10


TheSeg--My question is not whether the three persons of the Trinity will BE in heaven, but will I be able to see God the Father with my two EYES as I will see Jesus.
---Geraldine on 5/9/10


For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father, the Word, (and the Holy Ghost:)

and these (three are one.)


Is this Not clear?
---TheSeg on 5/9/10


Isa 42:8 I [am] the LORD: that [is] my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Isa 48:11 For mine own sake, [even] for mine own sake, will I do [it]: for how should [my name] be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.
Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he shall reward every man according to his works
Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
---micha9344 on 5/9/10


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Mark Eaton- the Father is God Almighty, Jesus is a god and NO WHERE in scripture is the HolySpirit called 'God', not even 'a god'.

The pronunciation of God's name has been lost, not the name. God's name is found in the Hebrew tetragrammaton literally translated YHWH. Some say 'Yahweh', others say 'Jehovah'.

What must be remembered is what Jesus said in prayer to Jehovah with his disciples on the night prior to his arrest and death saying-

"I have made YOUR NAME manifest to the men you gave me out of the world..."

Jesus made his Father's name (YHWH) manifest. He wasn't bound up with Jewish superstitions surrounding the use of God's name.
---David8318 on 5/9/10


1Cor 12:4-6 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
The HS moves:Gen 1:2, strives:Gen 6:3, speaks:2Sam 23:2,Eze 2:2,Mat 10:20, carries:1Kin 18:12, creates:Job 33:4,Psa 104:30, sends:Isa 48:16, is vexed:Isa 63:10, descends bodily:Mat 3:16, called 'him':John 14:17, testifies:John 15:26, guides, shows, speaks more:John 16:13, says:Acts 8:29, leads:Rom 8:14,helps and makes intercession:Rom 8:26, has power and love: Rom 15:19+30, reveals, searches, teaches:1Cor 2:10+13, justifies 1Cor 6:11, giver of gifts:1Cor 12
---micha9344 on 5/8/10


Mark Eton, Can you imagine a ship with 3 captains, or worse the U.S. with 3 presidents???
It never works ,besides the Father is singular (except the plural of majesty) and supreme over all! In case you haven't heard He has a Son!
---1st_cliff on 5/8/10


Lawrence **He will be sitting on his throne**
Who is that sitting at His right hand??Psl.110.1.
Were is the Holy Spirit in this setting???
Your error is expanding!
---1st_cliff on 5/8/10


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God with Jesus at his right hand- 2 individuals. HolySpirit not see as a person, but as a force filling and actuating Stephen, enabling him to see into God's heavenly glory.
---David8318 on 5/3/10

Please remember that the word God is a title and The Heavenly Father has a name which unfortunately has been lost in time.

Therefore, The Heavenly Father is God, Jesus is also God, and the Holy Spirit is also God.

We have one God, three persons.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/7/10


Isa. 9 v 6. There's only One God who Is The Father-Son, The Holy Ghost & Jesus Christ Is His name. He will be sitting on His throne. No doubt the angels will be visible to see also.
---Lawrence on 5/7/10


Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse:
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
-Apparently Paul did.
---micha9344 on 5/7/10


Mima, Who coined the word "Godhead"???
---1st_cliff on 5/6/10


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I don't know, some of these makes my mind go>>>Du,Du,Du.
---catherine on 5/5/10


We will see Jesus, for in Him dwells all the fullness of Divinity, 'bodily' (corporally). "He is the 'image' (statute & profile) of 'the invisible God', the firstborn over all creation. For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell." Just as the Called of the Father in Christ are the body of Christ, which is "the fullness of Him who fills all in all." Col. 1:15>Col. 1:19>Eph 1:23
---Josef on 5/5/10


Oh man will you get difficult with the questions. I'll tell you what you are going to see>>>GOD.
---catherine on 5/4/10


This is the most beautiful thing someone can think of asking!
Why just thinking about it, is the most beautiful thing there is!
Wow, what a blessing!

But as Christ said
Joh 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Maybe that why he added
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father, and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Most of all I love this!
Mat 5:2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,

There are so many things in his word.
---TheSeg on 5/3/10


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Just before the disciple Stephen was stoned to death he caught sight of God's heavenly glory, as recorded at Acts 7:55.

What did he see? Jesus on his own? Perhaps a 3 headed god? Maybe one God?

The account says that Stephen, "being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God's glory and of Jesus standing at God's right hand..."

Stephen actually cried out that he'd seen 'the Son of man standing at God's right hand.' 7:56. (Stephen didn't pray to Jesus at 7:59, but called out to Jesus as God's means of resurrection)

God with Jesus at his right hand- 2 individuals. HolySpirit not see as a person, but as a force filling and actuating Stephen, enabling him to see into God's heavenly glory.
---David8318 on 5/3/10


Did you so quickly forget:

Matt 5:8 "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God".

Jesus told us this, himself.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/3/10


Jesus says: "The person that has seen me has seen The Father. The person that sees me sees him that sent me. To the person who overcomes will I grant to sit with me on my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with Father of me on his throne." John 14:9+ 12:45+ Revelation 3:21.
---Eloy on 5/3/10


I believe that we will see Jesus as our Savior in the Kingdom of Heaven, ready to give us our reward for being faithful to Him.
---Kimbe7395 on 5/3/10


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\\Jesus IS the "trinity". He is the WHOLE FULLNESS of God...\\

More Sabellianim which comes from Western Filioquism.

Jesus is the Incarnate SON, He is neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit.

Just how (please God!) we will behold the Incarnate Logos in the Mystery of the Holy Trinity I don't pretend to know. I just know that it will happen in the World to Come.
---Cluny on 5/3/10


Jesus Christ in my opinion for he is the full embodiment of the Godhead.
---mima on 5/3/10


The carnal mind cannot understand the things of the Spirit....only the Holy Spirit can REVEAL this truth to us....I have been asking this question for a long time and this is what the Lord showed me.

God's Glory is so radiant, that we will definitely see Him....Jesus said, I and the Father are One....

Jesus, being the Son of God is ONE with the Father....Jesus said, If you've seen me, you've seen the Father,

so I believe we will see BOTH God the Father and Jesus the Son. God sits upon His throne and Jesus is at His right Hand/side. I heard there is so much Glory and radiance that Jesus goes into the Father and comes forth out of that Radiance. They are "One." (per Jesus). I and the Father are ONE.
---Donna5535 on 5/3/10


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