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Many Biblical Meanings

There are some passages in the Bible that can be taken in one or even more ways (even John 1:5, where the original word has 2 possible meanings). When we find a passage that may have more than one meaning (most commonly about moral matters) where do we turn to find assistance?

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MarkV: "How can they follow the teaching of Christ if they do not study the Word of God? Can you explain that?"

You have again twisted my words. I have said: when is it time to stop studying and start living what Christ has taught? How long does it take you to stop learning about a stranger before he becomes a friend? The apostles took three years of one-the-job training before they had complete faith. The apostle's writings are a first-hand testimony of Christ. When your best friend suggests you get to know another person, do you trust your friend's judgement and make friends with that stranger based upon the knowledge your friend gave? Shall we trust the apostle's judgement?
---Steveng on 5/30/10


MarkV: "...I ask, what is the Christian life?

To follow only the teachings of Christ. Colossians 2 *-10. And what is the ultimate command of Christ? To love.

It's that simple. Many christians know that they must love - which is the knowledge part - and can define it, but many do not know HOW to love or how to apply what they have learned. They have no concept of the "doing" part of love. The whole bible shows us how to do it, learning from many examples. Many christians today don't practice what they preach. They have grown up not to talk to strangers. So, MarkV, how do you apply love? (you don't need to answer, it's a rhetorical question to make you think)
---Steveng on 5/30/10


Thanks Trav,

When we use scripture (all of it) as our only standard, then those who disagree must "take it up with God" - not with us.
---jerry6593 on 5/29/10


Steven G, you didn't answer the question. You said to stop studying and start living the Christian life. I ask, what is the Christian life? To my comment,
"MarkV: "Not many can be like you Steven."
Your answer:
"They can be if they only follow the teachings of Christ. Colossians 2:8-10"
How can they follow the teaching of Christ if they do not study the Word of God? Can you explain that?
And how do you know that the churches are a creation of Satan? Can Satan create? He might be involve in the lifes of many but he does not create anything. He himself is a created being. If he creates the churches why do you go to them and teach? Maybe I misquoted you again, I'm sorry. Peace I leave you.
---MarkV. on 5/29/10


MarkV: "Everything Christians do is wrong..."

You misquote me, again. There are weak christians and strong christians. The weak christians do not go beyond studying and water baptism, they know about God and never receive the baptism from the Holy Spirit.

MarkV: "...and only you know what's right. You do not like to be question so you jump back at me that I twist scripture."

You misquote me, again. How can I be wrong when I'm teaching straight from the bible without infecting it with other people's philosophies and ideas?

MarkV: "Not many can be like you Steven."

They can be if they only follow the teachings of Christ. Colossians 2:8-10
---Steveng on 5/28/10




Always stay with the subject matter and real all the associated scriptures. Scripture reveals scripture. Not man made interpretations man is infallible and make mistakes but the word is clear when you have a old bible teacher who can prove his findings through the word.

If he cannot then don't trust his word cos even the youngest teacher if mature enough will be able to seek the elders advice on anything he is not sure of with you present so that you are not fooled.
Always Google you query and ask another Church for their understanding that is compatible to your own church for a second opinion third too.
---Carla on 5/28/10


MarkV: "...all churches are of Satan, then you said you go to churches and teach to them."

You misquote me, again. I said that all denominational churches are a creation of Satan. This is when he divides chrisitans into cults each having their own traditions , rituals, ways of living and intepretations of the bible.

MarkV: "You spoke of two prophets who don't speak, but you can hear them."

You misquote me, again. I said in a round about way that prophets don't bring attention to themselves.
---Steveng on 5/28/10


MarkV: "You tell everyone not to read other material but to read Bible only, and you send people to the website to look for words from the Bible."

You misquote me, again. I tell people to go to a website having a searchable KJV bible that you can search for key words relating to what I was writing about to prove that what I was writing is the truth. for instance, if I'm writing about the ultimate command I tell people to do an online KJV bible search for the key word "love." This is using the bible as its own reference.
---Steveng on 5/28/10


Steven G, you avoided answering the question. What is the christian life we are suppose to be doing, when you said we were suppose to stop learning about God? Steven,
I began answering you when you said that all churches are of Satan, then you said you go to churches and teach to them. You spoke of two prophets who don't speak, but you can hear them. You tell everyone not to read other material but to read Bible only, and you send people to the website to look for words from the Bible. Everything Christians do is wrong and only you know what's right. You do not like to be question so you jump back at me that I twist scripture. Not many can be like you Steven. You do not need anymore questions from me. I leave you peace.
---MarkV. on 5/28/10


The true meaning will line up with the rest of scripture. The Bible - not man - is its own interpreter.

Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little:
---jerry6593 on 5/27/10

Mighty fine writing above Jerry.

8. Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears.

11. I, even I, am the LORD, and beside me there is no saviour.
---Trav on 5/28/10




MarkV: "Please tell me, I would like to know."

If you have to ask me, then you have not read and understood the bible. For the bible will tell you all that you need to know to lead a proper christian life - not concordances, novels, other author's opinions, or the plethora of other christian publications and media. It's such an easy concept, but christians complicate christianity. Colossians 2:8-10

Allow me to ask you a question, MarkV. Do you take bits and pieces of scripture and twist them around like you do my posts? I truly feel sorry for you and will pray that my God - the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - will set you straight before Jesus returns.
---Steveng on 5/27/10


Steven G, to you, not everyone is living the way you think they should be living. And you know of many who are not living the Christain life. What is living the Christian life? Why don't you tell us what is wrong with everyone. You don't like the Churches, you don't like teachers, you don't like how the Bible was put together, you say not to listen to man teach, but you teach in many churches, and if they study with a passion to know everything about whom they love, it is wrong. You say they have to stop learning about God and live the Christian life, so what is the Christain life? What is more important then to know all there is to know about the One they love? What is more important then Christ? Please tell me, I would like to know.
---MarkV. on 5/27/10


There are generally several possible interpretations, but only true meaning. The true meaning will line up with the rest of scripture. The Bible - not man - is its own interpreter.

Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little:
---jerry6593 on 5/27/10


Trav, I do not have a problem with the Old Testament at all. I have a problem with how you discribe the Old Testament. It is you whom I have a problem understanding when you speak about Israel since you believe it was ok to kill millions of Jews in ovens, and yet speak for the Jews. You gave Scripture about what God was going to do to some Jews, but you didn't know if the one's burned to death were even those mentioned in Scripture. Somehow you believe you knew their hearts and it was ok to burn those. So yes, I do not understand your logic. I understand what God has to say, it is you whom I do not understand.
---MarkV. on 5/27/10


where do we turn to find assistance?

Scriptural commentaries is a good start.
---larry on 5/26/10


There is a time to study and a time to let go of studying and start living the christian life. I've known many christians who do nothing but study the bible using every resource available to them, many for twenty and thirty years. They know about God, but never developed a relationship with him. They know about God, but deny his power. Most christians today are like that.

As for verse numbers, how do you suppose the early christians learned the bible? The bible didn't have verse numbers until about the 1500s. The first christians were to study the bible, but the NT didn't exist until three hundred years later. So what scriptures were they studying from?
---Steveng on 5/26/10


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I have been trying to tell Steven about it but he argues and is very stubburn.
Can you imagine a Bible with no chapters or numbers? It would be like a puzzle. ---MarkV. on 5/26/10

Well you don't use the Old Covenant so you only have one third of scripture to deal with. You claim to not understand any O.T. scripture posted. Even though a small child understands "Sheep", for-ever, everlasting.

Second if Steven has two witnesses it will be one more than your denom logic provides. He doesn't need chapters,with two prophets saying the same. He is correct, there is only one teacher. Easily he knows your not it.
Tag teaming for support does not make you correct, or justify. It shows you cannot stand on your own.
---Trav on 5/26/10


Thank-you both.
Perhaps it's best re-worded. When reading scripture we rely on the Holy Spirit to confirm-truth. God is not limited by language. Here's the beautiful thing Mark and Steveng, the manuscripts are without numbers to scriptures,and the beginnng of every book gives reference to its context and states the title. Example:
Bereshyt-means 'In Beginning' and the first word of Genesis. Genesis is no part of the hebraic title- it's greek and provided by the greco-roman translaters. So,in essense you both are correct.
Just as with my post-the complete context is the statement. Emphazing one part,changes the message.(but,I think I understand the purpose) I ask we be stubobrn In-Christ with brothely love and share our fruit.
shalom
---char on 5/26/10


Char, You are correct about how to study. I have been trying to tell Steven about it but he argues and is very stubburn. He believes that the Holy Spirit is going to interpret the Greek and Hebrew for him. You are also right that the original language is not found in our Bibles. That is why we have revised versions of the original. And the reason we should be studying a Bible that is close to the original. He seems to think that anyone can understand the whole Bible without any help tools. And even suggest that it was a bad idea to have put chapters and numbers in the Bible. Can you imagine a Bible with no chapters or numbers? It would be like a puzzle. Those inspired by God to put the cannon together had a very hard job.
---MarkV. on 5/26/10


Char, I have been telling Steven that for a long time but he is one subburn guy. He supposes that he has the ability to understand Greek or Hebrew because the Holy Spirit teaches him. I suppose the Spirit translates for him for he needs no teachings from anyone. You wonder how he came to Christ if no body brought the Truth to him.
You are correct, when we read the Bible we do not read it in its original language. It has been done for us with all the revise Bibles we now have. That is why it is important we read the Bibles that are more in line with the original.
But Steven even suggest for everyone to read the Bible without chapters or numbers. I do not know who taught him that, it did not come from the Holy Spirit.
---MarkV. on 5/25/10


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char: "Steveng,
Part you jumped over-re-typed for you."

I understood you completely. I did not jump over anything when reading. I only copy and paste what is needed to be edified. Besides, many times I would only cut and pasted the beginning of your post to make sure what post I was edifying.
---Steveng on 5/25/10


Steveng,
Part you jumped over-re-typed for you.

//Turn to ask God-first-learn(corrected)lean Not on your own understanding.//

More clarity-english is not the original language of the manuscipts-others have kindly address certain words. Manuscripts are NOT worldly but the word of God-before translated-English.
Better clarity-
1Cor2(all)Holy Spirit is teacher-confirms the Word.
1Jn5:26-27
These have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which have received of Him abideth in you and ye need NOT that any man TEACH YOU
The Holy Spirit guides us not to judge one another-FRUIT-not provoking one another,patience,faith,gentleness-LOVE,etc..Gal5:22,Lk6:37
quickly I forgive.
-shalom-
---char on 5/25/10


Steveng,
Part you jumped over-re-typed for you.

//Turn to ask God-first-learn(corrected)lean Not on your own understanding.//

More clarity- english is not the original language of the manuscripts-others have kindly address certain words. Manuscripts are NOT worldly but the word of God-before translated-English.
Better clarity-
1Cor2(all)Holy Spirit is teacher-confirms the Word.
1Jn5:26-27
These have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which have received of Him abideth in you and ye need NOT that any man TEACH YOU
The Holy Spirit guides us not to judge one another-FRUIT-not provoking one another,patience,faith,gentleness-LOVE,etc..Gal5:22-26,Lk6:37 quickly I forgive.
-shalom-
---char on 5/25/10


char: "It takes time but it is time well spent-learn the original language and the perspective of the culture of that language for better understanding."

Do you not have enough faith to trust the Holy Spirit for guidance? Do you depend on worldly knowledge to guide you in spiritual matters? 1 Corinthians 2:9-14. Isn't it the Holy Spirit that teaches you all things and bring to mind all the things written in the bible? John 14:18, 26.

So put away your worldly books and not depend their wrong and shallow answers built on man's thoughs and ideas. Only depend on what Christ has said. It makes living the christian life more fruitful.
---Steveng on 5/24/10


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Turn to ask God-first-'learn not on your own understanding.'

It takes time but it is time well spent-learn the original language and the perspective of the culture of that language for better understanding.
---char on 5/24/10


Words in any literature often have numerous meanings and are understood by context.

For example:

Please light my cigarette.

At first light.

My burden is light.

Turn the light on.

The payment was light.

The Bible is the same and we can understand it by context. And we have the Holy Spirit to guide us.
---Warwick on 5/23/10


The word 'fool' in Matt 5:22 is translated from 'moros' in which Jesus uses twice directly to scribes and pharisees.
He also uses 'moros' 4 times in 2 parables,
the 10 virgins, and the wise and 'moros' men.
If you did not intend to use the word 'fool' as Jesus used the word 'moros', than it doesn't apply to you.
It is a strong word and also where we get 'moron' from.
---micha9344 on 5/19/10


micha9344: "Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire "

Carefully re-read Matthew 5:22 including the punctuation marks and then tell me why I shouldn't use the word "fool." (hint: it's not money that is the root of all evil.) Besides, if you believe what you think you believe about that verse, Jesus would also be in danger of hell fire. How many times did Jesus use the word?
---Steveng on 5/19/10


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Jam 3:9-10 Therewith bless we God, even the Father, and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
Luk 6:28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
Rom 12:14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.
Mat 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart, and they defile the man.
1Pet 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, [even] Christ:
---micha9344 on 5/18/10


micha9344: "Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire"

And your point?
---Steveng on 5/17/10


Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire
---micha9344 on 5/16/10


Cluny: "Not a foolish question at all, Steveng. If this question is foolish, what does that say about your own statement? "

Allow me to reiterate. Your statement is not foolish, but the person speaking it.
---Steveng on 5/16/10


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Steven G, How do you have a personal relationship with Christ? You didn't answer. You are telling us what you do with your life around the states, that has nothing to do with a personal relationship with Christ.
Whats up with this, "You also say that people should not listen to man, but Bible only." Then you say you go to churches and teach for months then go to another. Why do you teach? You say for people not to listen to man, so what you are saying is, when you speak to them they should listen. If God speaks to you through His Word? Are you saying He speaks to you transendly, (special) which He doesn't do to others only certain special people like you?
What you are you saying is, that you are a prophet?
---MarkV. on 5/10/10


Not a foolish question at all, Steveng.

YOU were the one who said that "God's language transcends all earthly languages."

Therefore, you certainly gave the impression that you thought He had His own language.

So what is it?

If this question is foolish, what does that say about your own statement?
---Cluny on 5/10/10


Cluny: "And just what language does God speak?"

That's a foolish question. But I suppost not from a wordly person as yourself would show.

Man could never know the language of God for his language and even his thoughts are far above man's. When he speaks, he speaks so the person can understand, no matter from what country. God speaks in many different ways as revealed in scripture: directly to his people, through dreams, using angels, through his son, through prophets (yes, even today).

When you actively seek the ultimate command Jesus spoke of, and actively apply it, then you will listen, not by your ears, but by your heart. 1 Corinthians 13:8 - 14:5
---Steveng on 5/10/10


Look for the same word / line, and same law/ precept.

For it to be doctrinally sound, the same idea must be true in both the OT and NT.

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures( OLD TESTEMENT) daily, whether those things were so
---francis on 5/7/10

Francis nails it plainly and simply. A person discussing, using, preaching, teaching verse/scripture without a witnessing scripture is opinion. Sure, some verbage do not need a witness, but understanding of the whole or part requires it.
2 Corinthians 13:1
... third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
---Trav on 5/10/10


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Rod4Him: "...couple of examples of how [God] works in your life."

Many of my experiences are supernatural, but most noticable: when I was eight months old (I was adoped by a very loving father compared to the original family who was into drugs, at nine years I went against RCC doctrines which lead to an abusive seven years, at 17 when I began experiencing the wiles of Satan, at twenty God answered my prayers to keep me from going to Viet Nam, coincidently, we had orders to ship out at 8am on March 9th (my birthdate). I received my discharge papers (honorable) at 7:30 that morning. The Holy Spirit guided me into various other situations that prepared me for things to come.
---Steveng on 5/10/10


Rod4Him: "...couple of examples of how that works in your life." Part II

Since then the Holy Spirit has guided me across North America spending a couple of years in Detroit, MI, a couple in Atlanta GA, a couple in Portland OR and a year or so in other places. Most of the time denominational churches would ask for help starting and developing classes and new services in which my purpose at each were revealed after a month or two. I've been staying in the Long Beach/Pasadena area for the last eight years living among the Asian community who are mostly Buddists. I've go my work cut out for me here.
---Steveng on 5/10/10


One thing that will help is to be familia with the writings of Moses.

Most NT scriptures have their base (origin) in either Moses, psalms, of isaiah
---francis on 5/10/10


I do what Darlene does. I have a study bible and I look up the scripture references given for that scripture. If that doesn't work, buy a commentary set, Matthew Henry's is excellent.

The other thing I do is ask God, what does this mean? Can you show me Lord? The disciples asked Jesus, "How should we pray?" And Jesus taught them.

Jesus said, The Holy Spirit will lead you and guide you into all truth.
---Donna5535 on 5/10/10


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Steven G,
I have never gone as far as to say that Satan is helping you or that you are not listening to God but to the enemy. I think I have more common sense then that when I speak to you or anyone. Yet you say.
"Do you like twisting my posts like Satan twists scripture" you send the people to the website to look for keywords that are in the Bible, what do you think help tools are? They teach you the keywords in the Bible. Hello? Is anyone there?
You keep speaking against the very thing you tell others not to do. Why don't you read Bible only if you think you can learn the words that way? Because you need help. And what do you do? You go to the website to help you with the keywords. What kind of twisting is that?
---MarkV. on 5/9/10


\\God's language transends all earthly language and he will teach you in the language you know best.\\

And just what language does God speak?
---Cluny on 5/9/10


Steveng, I also believe in a personal relationship with the Living God. Could you give a couple of examples of how that works in your life. thanks.
---Rod4Him on 5/9/10


MarkV: "God does not have to put your shoes on, are interpret Hebrew and Greek for you, you have to do it yourself. And God has gifted many great man to help us, who do not know Hebrew or Greek to find the correct meaning of each word, since many have different meanings."

You are trying to learn about God in a worldly way. God's language transends all earthly language and he will teach you in the language you know best. You are trying to know God through worldly study, but when will it end and you start a real relaltiosnhip with him? You have the knowledge about God, but you deny his power to correctly teach you with the help of the Holy Spirit which is the spirit of God.
---Steveng on 5/8/10


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MarkV: "The Holy Spirit might be influencing you to learn, but you do not want to listen,.."

The Holy Spirit doesn't just influence a christian to learn, he IS the guidance and teacher.

MarkV: "...yet [you] continue to send everyone to look for words in the eternet. That is just another help tool of which you speak against."

Do you like twisting my posts like Satan twists scripture? After many repeated tries to make you understand that I direct people to an 'online KJV bible' where a person can search for keywords, not a vague search on the internet. I use the bible as its own reference to prove what I say is biblically sound.
---Steveng on 5/8/10


Steven G, it seems that in your mind nobody does anything right but you. You say,
" Christians today fill up every minute of their time with work, school, friends, family, entertainment, shopping, bible study, church, etc. that they can't find the time to develop a real relationship with God."
What's your advice as to how you can develope a personal relationship with Christ without prayer or His Word? You say studying the Bible, learning about God is wrong, The writers of Scripture who were inspired by the Holy Spirit to write and put the Bible in order were wrong, working is wrong, going to church is wrong, listening to anyone is wrong, but we can listen to you because you are right. We should follow you I suppose.
---MarkV. on 5/9/10


What is the one word that transends all study of scripture? What is the one ultimate word that Jesus spoke of? What is the one word that makes living a christian life a simple, uncomplicated lifestyle? What is the one word that truly forms the personal relationship with the Father? What is the one word that truly gets a person into heaven?

Actively apply this word and you're on your way to developing a personal relationship with God the Father. But who can actively apply this word when the world today has lost it? It is the loss of this word that the Antichrist is revealed. What has caused the loss of this word?
---Steveng on 5/8/10


MarkV: "Steven G, when I said that many interpret something wrong I was speaking about those like you who say they can understand everything in Scripture without help."

There is a time when a christian goes beyond the study and establishes a personal relationship with God himself. I've know people who studied scripture for over forty years without a personal relationship. Christians today have a good solid foundation in the knowledge of God, but never attaining a personal relationship. Christians today fill up every minute of their time with work, school, friends, family, entertainment, shopping, bible study, church, etc. that they can't find the time to develop a real relationship with God.
---Steveng on 5/8/10


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Steven G, when I said that many interpret something wrong I was speaking about those like you who say they can understand everything in Scripture without help. You use your own interpretation and if you are wrong you will always be wrong. No one to help you be corrected. God does not have to put your shoes on, are interpret Hebrew and Greek for you, you have to do it yourself. And God has gifted many great man to help us, who do not know Hebrew or Greek to find the correct meaning of each word, since many have different meanings.
The Holy Spirit might be influencing you to learn, but you do not want to listen, yet continue to send everyone to look for words in the eternet. That is just another help tool of which you speak against.
---MarkV. on 5/8/10


MarkV: "The Holy Spirit will not convert the words for you, you have to do the work yourself."

Christians are to depend upon the Holy Spirit for true guidance.

MarkV: "Many also interpret wrong, and once they are wrong in one area, they will be wrong in most of Scripture."

Because they use and depend upon worldly reference books, concordances, novels and other opinions to interpret scripture.

MarkV: "So everyone needs help and God provides that help if you put your pride aside and listen to Him. If you are subburn you will never learn the true meaning of His Word."

Weak christians need help from worldly books until they gain enough faith to depend only upon the Holy Spirit.
---Steveng on 5/7/10


Turn to the Bible itself for assistance.

As you have heard, a precept of God will be repeated in the Bible for clarity and for confirmation. If you happen to comprehend something and it is nowhere else in Scripture, it is a good bet you did not understand the passage correctly.

Also, read whole passages for clarity and context. Do not read a single verse, like John 1:5 but read the passage for insight. The passage in John 1 continues until verse 19, where the subject changes.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/7/10


Steven G. 2:
People that study the Bible have to remember that not only do many words have different meanings they also know that only using books that give you the meaning in Hebrew or Greek will you be able to know what that perticular word means. If a person does not know Hebrew or Greek, you will be clueless in knowing. The Holy Spirit will not convert the words for you, you have to do the work yourself. Many also interpret wrong, and once they are wrong in one area, they will be wrong in most of Scripture. So everyone needs help and God provides that help if you put your pride aside and listen to Him. If you are subburn you will never learn the true meaning of His Word.
---MarkV. on 5/7/10


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When I was a young woman I spent hours in Bible study. All I had was a King James reference Bible so I ran the references and found the New Testament led right back to the Old Testament and vice versa. I learned a lot that way and it did help clarify the true meaning in the verses and what they are based upon. The more you learn the more you can understand. The Bible says we need no man to teach us for the Holy Spirit,Spirit of Truth will lead us into all truth. I always prayed teach or give me your truth Lord Jesus. Pray God will help you learn and he will answer because its his will we know the Word. There's a verse which say we will recall the Word of God but unless we learn it we can't recall what we don't know.
---Darlene_1 on 5/7/10


It is very rare that any command is given in only one book of the bible. When you come across a difficult passage that seems conflicting, the thing to do is look for that same Law / present in another book or two.

Look for the same word / line, and same law/ precept.

For it to be doctrinally sound, the same idea must be true in both the OT and NT.

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures( OLD TESTEMENT) daily, whether those things were so
---francis on 5/7/10


Steven G, again, I am at complete disagreement with you concerning studying Bible only and asking the Holy Spirit to help you and you will get all the answers.
First of all, you do not know if the Holy Spirit is guiding you to someone He trained to help all brothers and sisters. The Holy Spirit is working in all genuine Christians. Many have a passion you don't have, or are more capable to understand then you are, and God equips them to do His work and help you, just as He equips doctors and mothers to bring up their families. To understand Scripture you need to know the cultures, the time words were spoken, to whom, and many times one word has a different meaning in another passages.
---MarkV. on 5/7/10


I agree with stvg,I believe he his saying tecknology has taken the place of the spirit in the lives of many believers,man is becoming too smart for his own good,people are becoming too dependent on it,in place of God,ecucation is great,knowledge is fine,but trusting God is truth.
---tom2 on 5/7/10


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Leslie, every once in awhile, it is safe to assume. Yes, it was a typo. Somehow my fingers thought for themselves, and I don't know what they were thinking. v is not even close to the r. :)
---Rod4Him on 5/6/10


Emma, John 1:5 has only one meaning God wanted to convey to us. You will see the meaning very clear when you read the context of the message. The passage might have many applications but only one meaning. If you notice on this passage Jesus is the subject talked about. John introduces Him as the light or life. John uses the word "life" 36 times in his gospel, far more than any other N.T. book. Light here refers to biblical Truth, while "darkness" refers to sin or death and has significance in relationship to Satan. Here, in this passages the Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it" Comprehend here means 'overcome"
Darkness cannot overcome the Light.
---MarkV. on 5/6/10


Rod4Him,
Assuming that is a typo, I love that phrase too.
---aka_joseph on 5/6/10


I love that phrase, Leslie. Thanks for shaving it.
---Rod4Him on 5/6/10


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I have heard it said, and it is good to live by that "We must stop reading what we believe, and start to believe what we read". In other words we read scripture through what we believe it says, or what our pastor says it says, NOT reading it through God's eyes in what it TRULY says, and then believe that. I challenge ALL to every time you read the Bible to ask the Holy Spirit to teach you what God says it says. Remember the devil knows the Bible more than MOST Christians, and that is how he is able to twist it so as to decieve many.
---Leslie on 5/6/10


Scripture is precise. Some people do not read the scripture with a prayerful or open heart and mind, instead they read into the verses their own preconceived ideas and force the scriptures to say alien things they desire rather than what they truly say. They take verses and snippets of verses out of their context and wrongly miscontext them and misapply them. If you read about a subject which is not detailed, you can find the same subject and/or situation presented in other parts of the Bible which offer more details: like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John will speak about the same occurrences and each giving various details. I suggest reading at least 5 verses before and after the highlighted verse in order to derive the right meaning of the verse.
---Eloy on 5/6/10


GOD,and some really good counsel,but mainly GOD.
---tom2 on 5/6/10


What you describe is the true beauty of the Word. As an immature Christian, one can read the Bible and understand some Scripture. Then, as one learns more Scripture, they build the understanding to comprehend harder lines of Scripture. As our maturity progresses in the Word, we find deeper meanings to those first passages, which in turn provide the foundation for deeper meanings of other passages. We cannot simply read the Word once and have it written on our hearts. Our walk in the Lord is a continuous unfolding unto deeper and deeper mysteries of Spirit. The greatest danger is in stifling our maturity by limiting our understanding to only doctrinal definitions.
---Elaine on 5/5/10


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Today's christians are much too educated to understand spiritual matters. Knowledge today has increase a thousand fold since Jesus' time. In fact, 96% of all scientists and scholars from all of earth's history were born within the last 150 years. With this increase of knowledge comes an increase of words and their definitions and, in turn, interpretations of the bible. Today's christians depend too much concordances, novels, author's opinions, and other christian reference books becasue their faith is weak to trust the Holy Spirit for guidance - not having a good solid foundation in the bible itself. The bible says to use itself as its own reference until your faith becomes strong to trust the Holy Spirit.
---Steveng on 5/5/10


Catherine, Emma, the first passage in John is actually a mystery, as the Greek work 'katalave' does indeed have two meanings in ancient Greek, but in fact, though it's a mystery, both word meanings give light to our soul, perhaps John even desired that we could be given light by both meanings

Other cases: I'd say the best is to search for other cases where the same subject is dealt with, see if it's possible to find a meaning that can be used very well in all the cases in the Bible where that subject is deal with - that's probably the best

PS: I read Greek but not Hebrew
---peter3594 on 5/5/10


\\When we find a passage that may have more than one meaning (most commonly about moral matters) where do we turn to find assistance?\\

Now you know what the Tradition of the church is all about!
---Cluny on 5/5/10


Give the scriptures that have more than one meaning - because according to the Bible, there are NONE. ALL Scriptures in the HOLY Bible have only ONE meaning, what God says it means - anything else is blasphemy. Man may put their own spin on what it says, but God (through Holy Spirit) is the ONLY one who should be able to tell you what it TRULY says. Do you listen to God or man?
---Leslie on 5/5/10


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Emma the Bible is literature, as well as God's Truth. It contains many words which have different meanings, as does all literature.

Consider the word 'fast':

Aeroplanes are fast.
I am on a fast.
Hold fast to what you were taught.

I am sure you can understand what 'fast' means in the above three examples. It is all about context, as Bill billa says.

Also as Bill says we use Scripture to interpret Scripture, going from the word, to the sentence, the chapter, the book and the whole Book. If you find things you don't understand write them down and pass on. You can come back to them later. Our learning never ends.

Also we have the Holy Spirit to assist us, so pray that He will give you understanding.
---Warwick on 5/5/10


First check the word in context with the whole passage. Also look up in the rest of the Bible passages that deal with the same topic.

Also do not come up with a meaning that demeans GOD or casts GOD as not being loving and yet just.
---Samuel on 5/5/10


In English, the same word can have a number of different meanings...even exact opposite meanings (for example, citation). A Bible Greek or Hebrew word also may have a variety of meanings. But God wrote what He did, expecting we can understand Him. The *love* meaning that He personally inspires you with is the best, then you can learn more as you mature to be able to receive and live whatever He gives you. But we are a body, "members of one another" (Romans 12:5, Ephesians 4:25), so He has us helping each other, again mainly with the love meaning and application, versus just drawing set conclusions which can contradict each other and have you struggling about each other's imperfect conclusions.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/5/10


You dig and dig some more if you want to. Or you can just go with what God is giving you. Yes! The Scripture that you pointed out is not that difficult. Cross reference: Over in John, thank You Jesus, John 3:19, "This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, Now, I'm guessing that He's talking about Jesus. And men loved the darkness rather than the light, for their deeds were evil. I'll take a minute to look it up. See just how correct I am. A for effort. Hallelujah.
---catherine on 5/5/10


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NO such a place. It's a Man-made idea that came from here 2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15.
Psa.49 v 7.

It's a money maker for the rcc, the mother apostate church.
---Lawrence on 5/5/10


Pray & there's Bible dictionary & concordance to be used.

Don't ask a trin-minister or evangelist that
has been to a seminary, even in-depth study courses. They use Man-made theology & philosophy ideas to twist scriptures to say what it don't say. That is where the False trin-doctrine teachings came from even here, 2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15. Those that use Man-made theology & philosophy ideas are here, 2nd.Tim.3 v 7.
---Lawrence on 5/5/10


Emma, when I study the Bible I use Hebrew, Armaic, and Greek translations if I don't have a clear understanding of the meaning of a word.

When studying, I also use the principle of asking and answering the questions , who, what, when, where, why, and to whom.

I hope this helps.
---Rob on 5/5/10


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