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Can I Divorce Over Abuse

I know of a Christian woman who is divorced and remarried. Can physical abuse be a justifiable reason for divorce in God's eyes?

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Anyone who stays is an abusive relationship is brave physical abuse is likely to develop, however biblical understanding is that one cannot divorce for any reason.

Only death separates, spelling something wrong is only a problem if your writing to the Queen, God has no such excellency, that is why I serve him and take council from those who have no gripe with where a poor man sits in their congregation, the rich either in wealth or spirit go unrecognised, people who you would never tell the difference, there is no showing up... where righteousness is concerned !!!!. PeaceXx
---Carla on 10/24/11


Dear,dear carla. Bless your heart. I don't understood exactly what you are trying to say in your post. Did you mean whining about marriage? You typed winging. But nevertheless, you are wrong again. The bible says a wise man will change, a fool never changes. I consider myself a wise person. In most things. It does not matter what you or anyone says. If I see a reason to change my previous comment. I will. But I see no reason why anyone would be stupid enough, to stay in an abusive relationship(long term). I will not. Never. I am willing to work things out with my spouse(others) etc..But life is too short for me to continue doing this, for years. In a reasonable amount of time if things have not changed. I will make a change.
---Robyn on 10/24/11


Robyn yours is perhaps memory lapse..... When it came to winging about marriage you were chief and I guess when other level headed members challenged your stance you stood to somewhat change.

Listen to me please don't but listen to God Jesus Christ and the word is what will set you free.

Your mannerism sounds as if your feathers are ruffled curse a wise man and he'll bless you... I guess if you curse an unwise person they'll **** you.

Be blessed and have a blessed day!!!! Peace
---Carla on 10/23/11


Peter

That is exactly my point,

Robyn was saying that no spouse was exempt from causing the downfall of a marriage.

That they both are jointly responsible.

And in my experiences this does not always hold true.

Lets say a business man is on the road 5 days a week, now his wife can love him and treat him as a wife should while he is home.

But while on the road he could have a mistress which would devastate the marriage.

Now where would the wife's responsibility and contribution be towards a divorce?

Paul
---Paul on 10/20/11


Paul: Biblically, it would seem that in a 'Biblical divorce' (if that is possible) one person must be at fault, as sexual immorality is the only Biblical reason for divorce.
---Peter on 10/19/11




Its never one persons fault when a relationship goes bad.
---Robyn on 10/19/11

This is a very untrue statement, many times the spouse left behind has done all they can to preserve the marriage and still get shorted.

No one is perfect, but that is not necessarily cause to set divorce into motion or even substantiate divorce for the other person.

Paul
---Paul on 10/19/11


A lot of pastors,teachers, preachers in the church who are remarrying have not caught their mates in adulterous relationships.You can believe that! They have myriad reasons why they want to leave their marriages. Most all of them are selfish reasons. If you ask them, they will always say something else. It was the other persons fault etc...Yeah...right. Its never one persons fault when a relationship goes bad. Both parties contributed to the downfall.
The blind cannot lead the blind. If these leaders insist of occupying this high positions and the many benefits that go with the positions, they should try harder to live exemplary lives. That includes trying with the help of the Lord, to make their marriages work.
---Robyn on 10/19/11


Why can't other christians who are trapped in bad,abusive marriages, seek a better life for themselves?
****

well for starters false christian religions have turned marriage INTO a prison ...using Holy Scripture as a weapon against itself unable to SEE God is not a monster who created marriage as a torture for some ...their wicked LIES claim abandonment and abuse must be accepted and tolerated OR you can divorce and live in marriage EXILE

funny still nobody can offer Holy Scripture that provides that idea only the lying wicked false ministers offer up that slop

and the deceived follow them loving how so many are living a married life in hell
---Rhonda on 10/17/11


And to you Carla: Why do you people continue to focus on everything I say? Like I am going to listen to you. I comment on these blogs like everyone else here. Focus on someone else for a change...geezzzzzzzz. Its not like we are condemning anyone to heaven or hell. You add a little bit here and there and I do the same.No one has all of the answers. What's your problem?
---Robyn on 10/17/11


Because Robyn,

People look towards marriage as eternal bliss instead of eternal life as eternal happiness.

Re-marriage is for the man of god in whom his wife has committed a sexual act with another. Matthew 19:9 states he will not be called an adulterer for this exception as well as death for both parties.

Having Christ is like searching a field and finding the most precious stone in the world. It is priced more than silver or Gold. However the lustrous spirit in mankind illuminates the relationships of others( regardless of the real circumstances) which give's the unstable mind based on visual signs only, the reason to disobey marriage Laws and remarry regardless of scriptural observance.
---Carla on 10/16/11




Yes can leave an abusive relationship.But not to remarry until the spouse decease.But I know many christian people who have divorced and remarried. Up to and including preachers,pastors,teachers... I am not condoning remarriage but they do it and seek better lives for themselves. Why can't other christians who are trapped in bad,abusive marriages, seek a better life for themselves? Christians are sometimes the worse people to be married to. Or deal with. But not always. My 77 yr old aunt (christian) is preparing to marry for the 5th time, to a preacher! Sin is sin. You will have to seek God on your decision. I am just saying.GBU
---Robyn on 10/14/11


"Can physical abuse be a justifiable reason for divorce in God's eyes?"
Yes.
Can people remarry after divorce? Yes of course.
---Nana on 10/14/11


Luk 6:28
Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

Rhonda,
Bless you Dear troubled one,

However, if you spoke In an audible fashion I might understand what on earth you were on about???????
---Carla on 7/11/10


\\enlighten us - where in Holy Scripture does Christ glorify the abusive spouse and declare a women who married him is bound to his torture for the rest of her days in a "christian marriage"\\

The real question, Rhonda, is where does Christ give abuse as an exuse to remarry after divorce?

Can you tell us?

**Well, I am not sure of this conversation, but Rhonda is correct. God is for the oppressive.
---catherine on 7/5/10**

I think you mean "oppressed," catherine.
---Cluny on 7/10/10


Carla your interpretation of the words you see on your computer screen that were written by me have YOU IMPLYING much

not unusual considering YOU follow lying false ministers

when you HAVE the biblical passages to support the LIES you so easily promote by lying men who SUPPORT the sinner abusive husband GLORIFIED within your churchanity walls I would not continue to point out your misunderstanding of the Holy Scripture you purposely DISTORT
---Rhonda on 7/10/10


Rhonda,

You belief and how you answer certain blogs were more on a heated/emotional calculation rather than a spiritual based understanding weighing up the facts based on the word, The general feel from your responses are one of you projecting that a way of life should work according to your social experience of people rather than from biblical wisdom and biblical fact.

For that reason I do not regard many of your answers and please note I did not say all but MANY especially where you refuse to read the responses you originally reply to correctly.
---Carla on 7/10/10


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Well, I am not sure of this conversation, but Rhonda is correct. God is for the oppressive.
---catherine on 7/5/10


I don't believe based on your reply that you read a word of what I wrote.

About time you accused me of favouring men, normally you accuse me of siding with weak and poorly informed women.

Still not calm.............. relax!

I'll give you a little more time to calm down and re-read my post. Your appology I await!
---Carla on 7/4/10


\\just like religious christianity LYING to abused spouse to stay by FEAR in their marriage\\

Rhonda, you're really obsessed with what you call "religious christianity," and drag it into every blog, even where it would seem to have no connection.

You also never define what you mean by the term, even when asked politely.
---Cluny on 7/4/10


Calm down I don't always agree to your reasoning, and this is why, you wouldn't happen to be a woman teacher, or Pastor would you?
****

no I'm not a teacher maybe that's how you defend your antichrist position???

that's okay I don't post reasoning so your disagreement is with Holy Scripture and your reasoning is to your BRAND of religious deception

enlighten us - where in Holy Scripture does Christ glorify the abusive spouse and declare a women who married him is bound to his torture for the rest of her days in a "christian marriage"

do you COMPREHEND the contradiction or has your brand delusional reasoning of glorifying the sinner husband more important
---Rhonda on 7/3/10


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Rhonda, Rhonda, always looking for something to report as bible heresy! You can divorce for any reason, but you cannot remarry for any reason. Matt 19,

Calm down I don't always agree to your reasoning, and this is why, you wouldn't happen to be a woman teacher, or Pastor would you?

Peace!



---Carla on 6/30/10


HOllA!!!!!!

Amazing grace

My blog was lost and now it's found *categorically No......*LOL
---Carla on 6/30/10


She can devorce but she can never remarry. If he remarries she causes him to commit adultary. My guestion is, if a person marries someone who is devorsed then becomes a Christian or rededicates themselves to the Lord are they still sinning?
---cindy on 6/30/10



**Categorically NO....


this idea is WHERE in Holy Scripture - written somewhere in satanic code ...or...**

** Has this post been removed?**

It does not appear anywhere but on the marriage blog page. When you click on the message there is no trace!!!!!



Just as well it looks purely argumentative and distasteful, good reason to delete it!

PEACE!
---Carla on 6/28/10


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Categorically NO....
******

this idea is WHERE in Holy Scripture - written somewhere in satanic code ...or watching to many law shows?

ONLY religious christianity has determined in their sick demonic reasoning of MAN to make a women divorcing an abusive husband "wrong in Gods eyes"

WHERE does Christ BEAT anyone?

if a women is married to a man who physically abuses her she should run ...MANY cannot because their husbands are also MASTER manipulators --- just like religious christianity LYING to abused spouse to stay by FEAR in their marriage ...making their marriage a prison cell and diminishing the sacred vows of marriage and the self esteem of the victim while glorifying the sinner husband
---Rhonda on 6/27/10


Categorically NO....

Unless the divorce is because of marital unfaithfulness her husband cannot divorce her if her husband divorces her and marries another woman/man he is called an Adulterer, and if the wife that is divorced without the husband dying she will commit Adultery if she re-marries while his eyes are still open(alive),Lives.

Those that remarry.
2Pe 2:14
Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin, beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices, cursed children:
---Carla on 6/26/10


Tasha, no one can give your friend advice on this unless they've walked this out themselves.

I did divorce my husband because he was beating me up the last 8 months of our marriage. I also prayed for him to change, but to this day, he still hasn't. That was back in 2001 that I divorced him.

Paul the Apostle said, "She may leave her husband, but if she does leave, she is to remain single" and that's exactly what I've done....and I've taken Jesus as my husband as your friend should also.

If she has remarried, ONLY GOD can judge her on that...I cannot. I don't know what to tell you about that part, I can only share with you what I've gone through and what the Lord led me to do.
---Donna5535 on 5/17/10


The marriage is not the problem, and does not need to be addressed in any way, but the problem is the abuse. You do have every right to separate from an abuser, for your own physical safety. Find the cause of the abuse and address that. Increase in self-control, and anger management needs to started for the abuser. Is the abuser under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol when they lose control and do the physical abuse?
---Eloy on 5/13/10


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"no,adultery is the only reason,now there is scripture that says a spouse can allow a non believing spouse to leave,but even that scripture doesn,t say you can divorce..."
tom2 on 5/6/10
"which reinforces the idea that once you are married you are married until death. But the husband can divorce the wife for fornication."
---Carla on 5/7/10
"my understanding is Jesus is either giving a clause to remarry or a clause to divorce 'ONLY' on the grounds of sexual immorality which the wife has committed."
---Carla on 5/7/10
"The situation is if you put away wife without fornication you will commit Adultery.
The exception is only permitted in this instance only."
Carla on 5/7/10
---Nana on 5/12/10


Cluny, you are Catholic now? Wow!
---aka_joseph on 5/12/10


Peter3594:

I am NOT perfect. The Bible says that NO person is correct. Only God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are 100% perfect.

ALL of us human beings make mistakes. Even though many people have trouble, won't, can't, etc. admit that. The simple fact remains: we are ALL imperfect and ALL make mistakes.

Admitting that you might have made a mistake is an act of courage and bravery. God appreciates your admission that you might had erred. Where remarriage or something else.

PRAY that God would help you overcome any bad feelings and press forward in HIS glory!
---Sag on 5/12/10


in response: abuse breaks the marriage vows you swore to God. you would not hurt something you really cherished. also for consideration, the penalty for adultery was death. If my adulterous husband is dead then i am a widow and free to remarry.
---Debbie on 5/12/10


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I hope you understand that nana and cluny are from the same clan. How can they both understand?

The catholic Church feel the sins of their priests need hiding not exploiting. perhaps a hiding place for sin and exploiting women.

I had a friend where her mother was badly beaten by her husband but never divorced she lost several teeth in front of her own grown up adult children and Her grandchildren for not divorcing the abuser years ago. They could not do anything or he'd have punched their living day lights out of them she did though she jumped on his back what a life to live.

DIVORCE!!!!!!
---Carla on 5/12/10


Thank you soo very much Carla, I really needed that encouragement. It hurts so much when people who don't know me, nor my heart, nor my walk with the Lord, that I'm in error for divorcing a very abusive Husband.

I appreciate your post (((huggsss))). Thank you Sister.
---Donna5535 on 5/12/10


Donna,

Don't take to heart what people say Babes I know full well what you are talking about and only you could give a testament which shows you know God and his word and took self out the way and replaced your husband with the Master of all the universe you cannot go wrong Sacrifice is better than gain.

You will be rewarded Hold on, Hold on, endure until the end, your change will come, he that losses his life for Christ's name sake shall Gain it. Deny your self and take up your cross and follow him. The road is empty but the road these people who try to put you down leads to destruction.
---Carla on 5/12/10


Would you two legalists (Carla too) care to comment on what Donna described and show her the error of her doing...? Nana on 5/10/10

Nana, would you mind telling God that HE made a mistake in allowing me to file for divorce from a husband who was BRUTALLY beating me up -leaving black and blue marks on my body that I'd have to go to work with long sleeve blouses in the summertime. My eyes would be swollen from crying all night not to mention the lack of sleep. He also went out and bought a gun and pointed it in my face many times. Now tell me Nana, was that a word from GOD that you got for me? That I was in error? How do you know what God told me to do? Your judgement of me is very hurtful Nana and is making me cry.
---Donna5535 on 5/12/10


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Sag:

Thank you for your comment

For the last three years, I have had the same concern

I now suspect it was a mistake to remarry

The question for me now is: what should I do now?

Any advice for me?

Blessings
---peter3594 on 5/12/10


Nana,

I believe that Donna is doing the right thing. Divorcing her abusive husband and living for God instead. God wants us to make HIM the center of our lives.

As for my divorce, I was working 60+ hours a week to support my family. My ex-wife was a stay-at-home mother and never had to work.

The Christian counselor told my ex-wife that my work time was what was causing her depression and feelings of abandonment. She was told that that was the same as fornication and, thus, grounds for divorce. Huh???

Now, my ex-wife has to work even MORE than I did to support herself and the kids. I can't afford to pay her any child support or anything either. All I can say is that my ex-wife CHOSE her difficult lifestyle.
---Augie on 5/12/10


Sure can. I think it's being unfaithful to abuse someone.
---amand6348 on 5/12/10


Nana - I will address your assumptions

When Donna left, she did the right thing. If Donna stayed, she would have been doing the right thing. There are stories to support both sides, however, realize that each way has different consequences.

I guess what I am trying to say is that I do not need to shake down Scripture to justify my actions. I may be saved, but I am still a person who has to deal with the ramifications for my sin: past, present, and future. Fortunately, I have a Savior that has sacrificed Himself to pay for all my sin debt, and is able to control my reactions, so I do not keep making the same insane mistakes.
---aka_joseph on 5/11/10


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Jesus did not allow others to abuse women
(the woman caught in adultry and by the way where was the man?)Religious folks will tell you to stay. The Jesus I love and serve would be a hero and come between you and the abuser husband or no. Leave him. We have been redeemed from the law and live under the GRACE of God.You committ NO SIN when you run from an abuser.
---Roxanna on 5/11/10


I have a friend who was severely abused by her husband both physically and mentally.She
was determined to stand on God's word and believe that he would some day repent and be
saved.After many years,he was traveling and he was involved in a traffic accident,he was
in coma for several weeks.When he came out of the coma,he asked his wife for forgiveness
and of course she did forgive him.When he came out of the hospital he repented,got baptized and recieved the baptism of the Holy Ghost.Today he is preaching the word of God and truly loves his wife and loves the Lord.Sister Yolanda is so happy that she had the patience for God to move on her husband.
---Anthony on 5/11/10


Nana,

You have been one of my favorite bloggers since I have frequented this place. You make me think.

If you want to call me a legalist, you have that freedom. I have no defense except Christ Jesus. Anyway, if I offered support for my last post, I will just get picked apart. I do not have the time that I need to follow all the posts and 125 always comes to quick.

My season here is almost at a close. I cannot believe the amount of things that the Lord showed me in a month and a half, but I know the time spent here is not so I can defend myself, it is for the next step of which I do not know yet, but I know it is for His glory.
---aka_joseph on 5/11/10


Mary
Womens rights. In reference to women taking men's jobs etc, trying take control, being boss & the such like etc is an abomination to God. A woman being an officer to handle women & children's issues that's good & is a diff story, but women being a judges, lawyers, in the military carrying guns etc., is not a womans place, still, Eve's disobedience
running rampant in the world.
---Lawrence on 5/11/10


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"My wife divorced me after talking with a Christian counselor who explained what you just wrote: "fornication" means more than just sexual immorality."
Augie
"I am sorry that God's word was used to justify sin in your life."
aka_joseph
Would you two legalists (Carla too) care to comment on what Donna described and show her the error of her doing...?
Augie,
For what reason, how long that 'reason' stood unchanged till you ended in christian counseling?
---Nana on 5/10/10


Tasha, the Lord led me to divorce my husband after taking many (8 months worth) of beatings from him. I never called 911, just couldn't send him to jail.

You can divorce for reason of abuse.

However, the Apostle Paul says, "if she does leave, she is to remain single."

I have been divorced since 2001 and have no desire to remarry. The Lord is my husband now and He's the most wonderful one I have.

"For your maker is your Husband, the Lord of Hosts is His name." (Isaiah 54).
---Donna on 5/10/10


Augie,

I am sorry that God's word was used to justify sin in your life. Isn't that the true meaning of 'taking God's name in vain.'? Cursing is only a subset, but using the Lord's name for ones own empty purpose is the whole meaning.

If your ex fell into this modern twist, then you probably had to suffer a lot of twisted logos when you were married. If you have kids between you, you probably will for many more years.

If so, while you still have to 'suffer Jezebel' for a while, you do not have to sleep with her. Take your time and get to know the Lord better if you want to remarry. She did divorce you for fornication. :~)

---aka_joseph on 5/9/10


Nana:

My wife divorced me after talking with a Christian counselor who explained what you just wrote: "fornication" means more than just sexual immorality. Counselors can somehow make "fornication" mean "anything that isn't 100% perfect in any marriage".

Stretching the meanings of Biblical writings is NOT something that God looks favorably upon. God will harshly repay people for "stretching the truth" of his word.

The Bible says that we're ALL imperfect people. Hmmm. Can that be "stretched" to mean that we're ALL perfect? Nope! Likewise, "fornication" can't be "stretched" to mean more than sexual immorality.
---Augie on 5/8/10


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It is because of the hardness of our modern heart that Mat 19:v.9 (that has awkward sentence structure), that we justify sin and turn it on Jesus.

Divorce is not the end of the world. We will be sure to get one if that is what we really want, so quit using Scripture to justify our sinful nature.
---aka_joseph on 5/8/10


"Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication,..."
"except means there is an exception to putting away ones wife."
"The situation is will it be Adultery if you remarry for any reason?"
---Carla on 5/7/10

1Corinthians 10:8: "Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand."
Carla, fornication is more than just sexual in nature, just as adultery is not just a sin of married people, Matthew 5:27-28. Matt.15
:19 "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:".
---Nana on 5/7/10


\\you should have apologised to her if you spoke untoward, that would be the Christian thing to do\\

But I didn't.
---Cluny on 5/7/10


Cluny,
You seem to be telling a few people to mind their own business and correct me if I'm wrong but this is a forum for discussion and telling people to mind their own business is unfair, regardless she rightly asked and questioned something she believed needed clarifying. you should have apologised to her if you spoke untoward, that would be the Christian thing to do.
---Carla on 5/7/10


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Mat 19:9
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

except means there is an exception to putting away ones wife.

The situation is if you put away wife without fornication you will commit Adultery.

The exception is only permitted in this instance only.


The situation is will it be Adultery if you remarry for any reason?
---Carla on 5/7/10


Mat 19:3
The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?

Except was a clause but if you note the other scriptures are re-affirming Marriage not the putting away. Therefore putting away the wife can only be permitted for fornication only.
The clue is he did not re-affirm remarriage and I stand corrected if this is the case, however my understanding is Jesus is either giving a clause to remarry or a clause to divorce 'ONLY' on the grounds of sexual immorality which the wife has committed.
---Carla on 5/7/10


It is not complicated to judge if you read the scriptures the suggestion of a woman divorcing her husband does not exist therefore if her husband committed sexual immorality he is guilty of Adultery he could not remarry either.

Either neither one is able to remarry, or the husband who's wife committed Fornication is in the position of committing Adultery if he also remarries?

Perhaps he can divorce but cannot remarry?

which reinforces the idea that once you are married you are married until death. But the husband can divorce the wife for fornication.
---Carla on 5/7/10


Peter,

Divorce & Remarriage for anything other than ADULTERY is not mentioned in the Bible.

I believe that the Bible discourages any such remarriages and declares them to be adulterous. Why? Because God only recognizes the original, FIRST marriage of anyone. Man or Woman.

Today, people can get Divorced & Remarried as many times as they desire. They still need to remember that God's plan is for a person to marry ONCE.

God does allow Divorce & Remarriage because we live in a fallen, sinful world. However, those marriages are based on our OWN strength. Many don't work out because there is much more work involved.
---Sag on 5/7/10


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Issue of divorce in Matthew 19 came from the Pharisees tempting: "Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"
If christians boast of liberty' they have in Christ, they were boasting of theirs in the law.
Mind you, it was these same tempters who brought to bear, "Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?"
Their answer was addressed to them, and who want to boast of their liberty, "Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives".
I believe that Moses did not do it for them but for the woman, that they be not enslaved to a man who despised them, that they may have a chance at finding love and peace.
1Tim.5, 1Cor.6
---Nana on 5/7/10


Sag: Your comment about 'no-fault' divorce is completely true, I agree

My post yesterday was not intended to question what you said

I am just interested in the question I posted (Tasha did not mention whether the woman who is divorced wanted the divorce or was divorced by her husband while that woman actually wanted to remain in the marriage)

But if your spouse divorces you NOT FOR ADULTERY, are you required to remain single, or can you remarry?

Jesus said 'causes her to become an adultress' - does that suggest the husband is the only one who is at fault for that, or does the divorced wife bear part of the blame?
---peter3594 on 5/7/10


Carla:

1. Are you DENYING that God sometimes tells us what we do not want to hear?

2. Are you DENYING that Tasha, in her original post, is talking about someone else's marriage, and therefore interfering in something that is not actually her business?
---Cluny on 5/6/10


I think Mat 19:9, because of very awkward phrasing, is highly misunderstood and used to justify or to permit sin (error). The verse, which should not stand alone, and the following verses, are about remarriage and adultery.

It is amazing, considering the whole discourse, that God calls the lust of the heart adultery despite the action of adultery and he calls hate murder, but he is ok with divorce in certain circumstances.
---aka_joseph on 5/6/10


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Mary
I believe Eve was set in her mind Not to listen to God Or her husband, like some are today.
---Lawrence on 5/6/10


I am new to this site but feel I need to add my input. I was married for 30+ years to a man who was verbally and emotionally abusive. I,too, feel that marriage is meant forever. However, one can only stand so much abuse so I left him three years ago. One must consider,also,the impact on the children. My children were subjected to the same verbal and emotional abuse as I was. They also had to deal with a father who didn't want to support them financially, another form of abuse in my opinion. In my case I did everything possible to please him until I realized that there was no pleasing him. My kids and I are happier now that the marriage is over with. God is blessing us every day. That, for me, is confirmation that God is not unhappy with me.
---Donna on 5/6/10


God made marriage to last as long as a man and a woman are both living. Jesus Christ taught that couples are PERMITTED to divorce because of adultery.

Because of "no fault" divorce, couples in the United States are divorcing-and-remarrying at dizzying rates. For almost any-and-every reason too.

When there is divorce for anything other than adultery, a person's only choice is to remain single and turn to God.

Lots of people rebel against God and remarry anyway. Ever wonder why many of those remarriages don't work out?
---Sag on 5/6/10


As far as culpability, as a father, I can appreciate to a degree when my kids say, "I did it because I was deceived, rather than "I jumped because the deceived one jumped and I knew better, yet I did not say one word.
---aka_joseph on 5/6/10


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Sag: true

I'll add another question:

If your spouse divorces you for some other reason, not Biblically - ok, your spouse did what is wrong

Are YOU allowed then to remarry?

I accept your comment about divorce - this question is about what to do after a non-Christian divorce
---peter3594 on 5/6/10


Lawrence, you are SOOOO hung up on the fact that Eve was deceived--well let me tell you this: if Adam had been ANY help at all, she wouldn't have been deceived!
---Mary on 5/6/10


Also, Lawrence, you say that women's rights is an abomination to God?! Want to explain that to Mary who sat at Jesus' feet while He talked--instead of helping Mary?
---Mary on 5/6/10


When I hear about abuse it makes break down & ball.
Women just don't understand (some don't want to hear it), that if Eve would have had listened to God & Not the devil-serpent, she partook of the forbidden fruit then passed it to Adam, this world prob wouldn't be in the messed up condition it's in. This disobedience runs in many women today since Eve, womens rights etc & Is an abomination to God.

Adam was Not deceived. 1st.Tim.2 v 14.
I sure thank God for His Mercy-Grace & His Help today.
---Lawrence on 5/6/10


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I'll probably get "stoned" for repeating what the Bible says:

"Sexual immorality, or adultery, is the ONLY reason for divorce in God's eyes"

In the case of physical abuse, the man and woman can SEPARATE and live independent of each other.

Marriage is PERMANENT. The fact that divorce & remarriage is "legal", and "very popular", doesn't matter at all. According to God, marriage is a PERMANENT relationship. FOR LIFE.

Need Proof? Read your Bible!

---Sag on 5/6/10


I think Mat 19:9, because of very awkward phrasing, is highly misunderstood and used to justify sin (error). If that verse is kept in context of verses 3-12, I see a different interpretation. I believe the verses does not justify divorce in any case. The verses are really talking about remarriage and adultery. I think it is a HUGE mistake to say that Jesus permitted sin in any case.

In the case of abuse, separation is permitted: Galatians 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

However, divorce and adultery are forgivable if you truly repent and are sanctified. But, if you truly repent, do not think that the sanctification will not be painful and will not take time.
---aka_joseph on 5/6/10


YES! God doesn't allow any spouse to abuse the other.no matter if it is husband v.s. wife or wife v.s. husband. Abuse wasn't spoken of until the last 30years. You can leave an abusive partner/spouse because your life is more important to God. If you remarry then I'm sure God will bless that union as well as long as the spouse also follows God. too many women,more then men wind up dead or close to it because they stick to what the "church says" because they're afraid of filiing for divorce, this woman needs to get out of this situation & to safty.
---candice on 5/6/10


no,adultery is the only reason,now there is scripture that says a spouse can allow a non believing spouse to leave,but even that scripture doesn,t say you can divorce them,what if they get saved,should they come back?are you required to except them when they do?but again,only adultery is clearly stated in scripture as a reason for divorce.But its kinda dumb to stick around if you are being beat up.
---tom2 on 5/6/10


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Matt 19:9

people use all kinds of excuses to remarry some even express that because YAHWEH divorced Israel they also likewise can do the same in their marriages? beats me how they can measure up to God when only His son Jesus Christ demonstrated he alone was able to do this. In his word he said: 1Cor 7. Matt 5. Romans 7, Rev. Adultery is committed when one remarries and a spouse is still alive. Anyone who commits the sin will not have eternal life.

---Carla on 5/6/10


How RUDE are you Cluny according to you you hear from God. However good thing you are not advocating hearing from YAHWEH.

Why should she mind her own business since you did not mind yours she asked a question and gave her perception. I wouldn't want to attend ''the Church of Cluny'' or serve ''Her God''.

Apart from being jumped on by his/her Gods apostle you'll get nowhere spiritually because your not allowed as ''Cluny'' is to ask anything or indeed give your opinion!

Salome X
---Carla on 5/6/10


If it's your marriage, ask God, but don't be surprised if He doesn't tell you something you want to hear.

If it's not your marriage--mind your own business.
---Cluny on 5/6/10


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