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Jesus' Two Commandments

Are Christians required to keep the Two Commandments given by Jesus which summed the Law and the Prophets?

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Steveng -- Of the 10 commandments listed in Exodus, only nine were reinstituted in the New Testament. Romans 13:9, murder, adultery, stealing, false witness, honor parents, coveting and worshiping God. Worshiping God properly covers the first three commandments) The one not reaffirmed was the one about the Sabbath. Instead, Jesus said that He is the Lord of the Sabbath (Matt. 12:8).

The Sabbath is fulfilled in Jesus because in Him we have rest. (Matt 11:28)
....Colossians 2:1617 (NASB)
Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day
things which are a mere shadow of what is to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

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---Donna66 on 5/16/10


Show me someone between Adam and Moses that rested on the 7th day, before it was written that God commanded the Israelites to rest.
Again reading into the Bible something that just isn't there.
---micha9344 on 5/16/10


Cluny, either I am not understanding you, or you didn't understand my post. I'll try again.
You asked how many days off do I get. Under the general church structure, it likes to have volunteers, under pressure, to teach Sunday School, baby sit, and many other "church" activities. Consequently, if I subcumb to the pressure to do "God's duties" for the church, I end up working seven days a week while the "pastor" takes off Monday and Tuesday.
---Rod4Him on 5/16/10


Steven G, you said,
"Besides, God blessed the seventh day thousands of years before the Israelites became a nation"
I believe you are right. The only thing is that He never said what day He started creation, only that it was day one. He didn't say what day He rested, only that it was the seventh day. God never told us what day was the Sabbath only that it was the seventh day. "Man" not God called the first Sunday.
---MarkV. on 5/16/10


Besides, God blessed the seventh day thousands of years before the Israelites became a nation. It was blessed before Adam and Eve fell out of grace. The Israelites having their hearts hardened was presented the Ten Commandments by God through Moses. They continued the practice resting on the Sabbath, the seventh day of the week. Now, if you prepared a calendar that started with the very first day of creation until today and overlaid the Gregorian calendar on top of the first, the Jewish Sabbath would fall on the Gregorian day of Saturday. The Jews have always rested on the Sabbath on their calendar which so happens to fall on the Saturday of the Gregorian calendar. It could have been any day.
---Steveng on 5/16/10




For those who make an issue of "keeping the Saturday sabbath holy--just HOW this is done they never define, as the commandment itself says nothing beyond not working or making your slaves and farm animals work--I have a question.

On what day or days do we get to be unholy and profane and live according to our own desires, especially since Christ has come?
---Cluny on 5/16/10


Luke 23:56 The Jews rested.
Mark 2:23-28 Priests are blameless, we are priests, Christ being Lord and High Priest.
Isaiah 66:22-23 Continually worship the Lord. Where's the rest?
Isaiah 56 See the word 'servant'(v.6)? We are heirs and sons, not under the law as servants.
Matthew 12:1-13 Same as Mark 2 plus doing well every day is good, even the seventh.
Luke 4:16 Jews worshipping God on the seventh day.
Acts 17:2 The Jew first, where and when would a person find the most Jews?
84 in Acts? You'll hafta reference that.
John 15:10, Matthew5:17-19, Revelation 14:12,Isaiah 58, Acts 13:42-52, Acts 18:4.
Some are talking about God's royal Laws, or another where and when to hear God's Word read.
False interpretation.
---micha9344 on 5/16/10


You showed me one verse to say that the Sabbath was for only Israel, but I show you many verses to show it's for all mankind:

Who were they that rested on the Sabbath? Luke23:56. The Sabbath was made for man: Mark2:23-28. All flesh will worship God on the Sabbath: Isaiah66:22-23. God blessed the gentiles who kept it: Isaiah56. it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days: Matthew 12:1-13. Jesus kept the Sabbath: Luke4:16. Paul's custom concerning the Sabbath: Acts 17:2. The Book of Acts gives eighty-four meetings on the Sabbath. What did Christ say about the law of God of which the Sabbath is a part? John 15:10, Matthew5:17-19, Revelation 14:12. Also read: Isaiah 58, Acts 13:42-52, Acts 18:4.
---Steveng on 5/16/10


\\ Then I have to go back to work on Monday while he takes Monday and Tuesday off. ....
Consequently, the "laity" works all the time, and he still gets two days off, works for him, I guess.\\

How many days a week do YOU get off, Rod4Him?
---Cluny on 5/16/10


"If you want to have eternal life, keep my commandments."? Nope - not what it says

God found fault with us in that covenant and there was a need for a better convenant. This is talked about in great detail in Hebrews.

I am not suggesting that people who believe Christ powers us to obey the commandments are lost. He is the only way we CAN change.

I will say however IF you dont think you are righteous the moment you accept Christ as your savior, then you have not accepted the fact that you have blown your chance to gain righteousness by obedience.

You are still tryin to gain favor with God. Thats not grace.
---JackB on 5/16/10




Jerry, if a man only seeks Gods power to obey the commandments to gain righteousness then yes he is lost. We've already blown our chance to prove ourselves righteous to God.

The Holy Spirit empowers us to serve God yes, but ONLY because we have already been accepted by God because of our faith in Jesus Christ. He is our "earnest", our "seal".

God can look at your life on judgement day or he can look at Christs life on your behalf. We are washed in the sinless blood of Jesus Christ by obedience to the faith. That is the ONLY way we will be perfect before God.

Only a fool would let his pride get in the way of a free gift, especially one from God.
---JackB on 5/16/10


Elaine, your comment about the "clergy" who took Monday and Tuesday off is true and reminded me how that used to bug the heck out of me. Because the "clergy" expected me to work all week, give him money. Then prepare a class for church for Sunday on Saturday, and then teach the class on Sunday. Then I have to go back to work on Monday while he takes Monday and Tuesday off. Something is wrong about that.
Consequently, the "laity" works all the time, and he still gets two days off, works for him, I guess.
You may pick up some irony in my statements. Do you have any solutions?
---Rod4Him on 5/16/10


Man, I dont understand some of you. What are you looking at? I know you cant be looking at yourself s. Because, you dont see yourselves as hypocrite!

In Luk 13:15
The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?

He is saying, all of us are all the same, Sinners!
You think he was upset because they were breaking the law?
It was because youre telling me to do that which you yourself, cannot do!

Most of you say God forgive me.
Didnt he tell you to say?
And forgive us our sins!
Luk 6:42
Anyway, just think on this.
---TheSeg on 5/16/10


Elaine, your answer is what I have been saying to the SDA's complain. In fact I have said that no where does God say that the Sabbath is on Saturday. Not one verse mentions that. And Jerry is the one that complains and cannot find a passage. God did say work six days and rest on the Seventh. To say Saturday or else you are in rebellion against God, is to be legalistic. Putting you under the a law and if you refuse you are in rebellion against God. The information that Mark E, gave on the Sabbath is clearly explained. Jesus is our Sabbath and we can worship Him every single day and rest in Christ.
---MarkV. on 5/16/10


JackB: You seem to imply that those who see God's grace as enabling power to obey His Commandments are lost. Is it possible to serve God by disobeying Him? Isn't it possible rather to serve Him out of love precisely by obeying Him? Thus the keeper of God's Commandments is the one who truly loves God, not the one who defies Him.

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
---jerry6593 on 5/15/10


Jack B, your both responses on 5/15/10 were very good concerning the conduct of the Christian. Very well explained brother concerning those who boast. It is found here in many places when they speak against others sinning.
---MarkV. on 5/15/10


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God's first simple, straightforward commands were beautifully precise -- but had to be further defined to become the 10 Commandments, that men could comprehend them.
1.LOVE GOD
2.LOVE ONE ANOTHER
All commands of God resort back to these two simple premises.
---Elaine on 5/15/10


WHAT DOES THE SCRIPTURE SAY, and AM I WILLING TO OBEY God ALL THE WAY?
---francis on 5/14/10

You want to hear the Word?

Gal 3:23-25 "But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor"

Luke 6:5 "...The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath"

Mark 2:27 "...The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath"

We are no longer under the Law once faith has come. If the Sabbath was made for ME, then I honor it on Sunday.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/15/10


I asked a wise clergyman one day--"You work everyday of the week seeing people, teaching them the Word, and bringing people to Christ. This is your profession, and you likewise "work" on Sunday. Is that considered "not honoring the Sabboth?"
To which he replied, "I take Monday or Tuesday off, and consider that my day of rest. How are we to know if God rested on a Saturday or a Sunday? He only stated that '6 days shalt thou work, and on the seventh you shall rest, as God rested.' It seems to me more important that I make sure to take ONE DAY to dwell in His presence, rather than squabbling over what day it should be."
---Elaine on 5/15/10


//The only question needed to be saked is: WHAT DOES THE SCRIPTURE SAY?//

The issue is not what Scripture says. The problem is the way that man uses one verse or half verse to support man's doctrine as opposed to comparing it to the whole Word. And the second problem is that most people here do not believe in the Bible, but believe in some other text and use Scripture to pick apart sound doctrine...doctrines based on the whole word instead of 'rightly divided' scripture for man's convenience and fertile imaginations, which all boils down to Satanism. If you are not with Jesus Christ, you are against him.
---aka_joseph on 5/15/10


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JackB, that was wonderful.
---Linda on 5/15/10


francis, what do you propose that believers do or don't do on Shabbat?
---Rod4Him on 5/15/10


The lost man is terrified of death and seeks to obey the Law to gain favor with God. You cannot love God when you are terrified of Him.

The man saved by Gods grace seeks to serve God because he was been given eternal life in Jesus Christ (which he does not deserve). He loves God for what God has done for him.

If you serve God in fear of judgement you have not been made perfect in love. You are living a life of torment and that is NOT FROM GOD.

The power of sin is in the law and the fear of death keeps us in bondage to sin. Christ conquered both when He died in your place and raised from the dead.

Come to God humbly yet boldly. His will is that no man perish but all find forgiveness in Jesus Christ.
---JackB on 5/15/10


Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him,

Noone obeys Christ all the time, Francis.

And its funny you should bring up that verse because if we look at the life of Christ one thing He despised was a person who makes their boast in their obedience and puts others down for their sins.

Christians encourage their brothers and sisters out of love. They dont judge each other in an attempt to exalt themselves.

There is so much of this going on in these blogs that its heart-breaking.
---JackB on 5/15/10


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Who are the repairers of the breach?

Isa 58:12-14 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations, and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in. If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day, and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable, and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD, and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
---jerry6593 on 5/15/10


All those who believe in the Saturday Sabbath commemorate on Saturday and all those who do not, commemorate on Sunday.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/14/10

This is a very poor aproach to rightly dividing the word of God.
Surely God did not leave it up to us to determine which day is THE SABBATH OF THE LORD.

The only question needed to be saked is: WHAT DOES THE SCRIPTURE SAY?

Personal views are unimportant.
What is truely important is : WHAT DOES THE SCRIPTURE SAY, and AM I WILLING TO OBEY God ALL THE WAY?

and then maybe some will decide that dispite what God says, they will do thier own thing.

Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him,
---francis on 5/14/10


\\Cluny The Laws you cited were the Mosaic laws and some of those you cited were actually from the Talmud not biblical.
---John on 5/14/1\\

Wrong, John. Saying it over and over will not make it right.

Everyone I've quoted IS in the Bible.

Furthermore, Jews count the 10 Commandments among the 613. The Bible itself does not make any such distinction as you are.

**I am not going to get into this much: Christians are required to keep all of God's commandments. Anyone that teaches otherwise, is lost, and will go to hell.
---catherine on 5/14/10**

Catherine, do YOU follow all the 613 Biblical commandments? Or do you pick and choose which to follow?

You've heard me mention a few here.
---Cluny on 5/14/10


I am not going to get into this much: Christians are required to keep all of God's commandments. Anyone that teaches otherwise, is lost, and will go to hell.
---catherine on 5/14/10

This discussion is a ruse, a red herring.

The only commandment really at discussion here is the Fourth Commandment, Honoring the Sabbath, Not even that commandment is being disputed, but the singular-specific day on which to commemorate it. The Seventh day of the week, or the Saturday Sabbath.

Let us do this. All those who believe in the Saturday Sabbath commemorate on Saturday and all those who do not, commemorate on Sunday.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/14/10


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I know, we dont want to see are selves as evil.
But, we do know! How to give what we feel are good gifts to our children.

So then! How much more shall your Father which is in heaven!
Give, what he feel are good things to Them that ask him!

Now listen!
(This must be in your words too. Not just your deeds)
So, all the things, you want men! To do to you!
Do ye even so to them!

FOR THIS IS THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS!


For by thy words thou shalt be justified.
and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Now, I dont know what you see.
But, I do know, what I see!
Wow, talk about a catch 22!
---TheSeg on 5/14/10


And I think they are "like" each other because ...
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/14/10

...if you do not love God with all your heart, mind, and soul, then you cannot love your neighbor as yourself,

and

if you do not love your neighbor as yourself, you cannot love God with all your heart, mind, and soul.
---aka_joseph on 5/14/10


JESUS was quoting Moses in the giving of the Two great Commandments in fact a Jewish Lawyer knem them as the greatist commandments.

Luk 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
:26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind, and thy neighbour as thyself.

See Deuteronomy 10:12 11:13
---Samuel on 5/14/10


GOD LAW:

Deuteronomy 4:12 And the LORD spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude, only ye heard a voice.

Deuteronomy 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments, and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

Deuteronomy 5:22.. and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.

MOSIAC LAW:
Deuteronomy 4:14 And the LORD commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it.
---francis on 5/14/10


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The New Covenant in Christ has no such commandment.
---micha9344 on 5/13/10

The New Covenant, it being apparent you haven't checked is addressed only to Israel. Heb 8:8, Jer 31:31. All of. Worth noting the house of....and Judah.
Being unaware of the Covenant provision to this people, U might be shocked/surprised by another verse.
They may recognize laws you are not privy to....and stronger than denomy milk.

10For this is the covenant that I will make with the "HOUSE of Israel" after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
---Trav on 5/14/10


Mark 12:28-34 > The First Love Commandment is that we love God with all our heart and soul and mind and strength. And Jesus says, of our Second Love Commandment, "the second,

. . . . . . . like it,

is this: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'"

So, the love your neighbor command is "like" our command to love God with all we've got. And I think they are "like" each other because it is God's one love in the Holy Spirit (Romans 5:5) that has us living both love commandments, so we are sweetly and intimately sharing with God in His all-loving for any person, at all. This is not "required", really, but very deeply fulfilling, to share with You in Your very own Heaven-beauty love.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/14/10


Cluny The Laws you cited were the Mosaic laws and some of those you cited were actually from the Talmud not biblical.
---John on 5/14/10


My bible teaches me that everybody is supposed to follow God's laws (and not one exception), but until death do us part, we will never be able to follow any. For, if we have transgressed one law, we have broken them all.

That is why we need a Saviour...a bridge and covering back to God. This Savior is named Jesus Christ.
---aka_joseph on 5/14/10


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I am not going to get into this much: Christians are required to keep all of God's commandments. Anyone that teaches otherwise, is lost, and will go to hell.
---catherine on 5/14/10


\\The the Mosaic laws, in which there are 613 mitzvot, are outside of the Decalogue. They pertain to sanitation and daily life of the then chosen people The Jews.
---John on 5/13/10\\

Actually, John, the Decalogue is counted among the 613, not in addition to them.
---Cluny on 5/14/10


Seg,

That was good. Really good.
---aka_joseph on 5/14/10


in context:
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many, but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. And this I say, [that] the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. For if the inheritance [be] of the law, [it is] no more of promise: but God gave [it] to Abraham by promise. Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made, [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Verse 19 says it all.
---micha9344 on 5/14/10


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Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, THE LAW, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
---JackB on 5/14/10


\\Cluny you get confused. You keep citing Mosaic laws. The Decalogue is not the same.\\

Are you saying the Decalogue is NOT part of the Mosaic Laws?

That's not how Jews themselves view it historically, including at the time of Christ.
---Cluny on 5/14/10


Wherefore if they shall say unto you,
Behold, he is in the desert, go not forth:
Behold, he is in the secret chambers,
Believe it not.

I wonder is there anyone who believes he can keep all the Commandments.
I know, the answer is no!
Well, looking at these two Commandments, I see the same things!

Every morning when I wake up, I wash my hands and face.
Just yesterday, I saw a man in the street asking for money.
As I gave him a few dollars and looking at his hands and face, I wonder.
If I had some soap and water, would I have tried to wash him?

As I walk away, I wonder?
Just who was washing who?
May God bless you
---TheSeg on 5/14/10


francis: Great answer! I was hoping someone would would bring out the fact that these two "summary" Commandments were not new at all, but quotes from the Old Testament. Now let's see if someone figures out that Jesus himself was the God of Mt. Sinai who wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger, and for Him to Change the original Ten would violate His character, as: "For I am the LORD, I change not" (Mal 3:6), Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever." (Heb 13:8)
---jerry6593 on 5/14/10


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Cluny you get confused. You keep citing Mosaic laws. The Decalogue is not the same.

The commandment is to "REMEMBER" the Sabbath. Which is Pre-Mosaic and was not created for Jews as there were no Jews in Creation.

It was added to the Decalogue because Mankind had forgotten it. and why it was created.
It was created for man to enjoy. As Jesus had so eloquently stated.

The the Mosaic laws, in which there are 613 mitzvot, are outside of the Decalogue. They pertain to sanitation and daily life of the then chosen people The Jews.
---John on 5/13/10


Great post, Steveng

Along with three are those who post questions to forward their own belief system.
---aka_joseph on 5/13/10


Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Matthew 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets
Galatians 3:13b Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law
Acts 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, [Ye must] be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no [such] commandment:
Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets,
---micha9344 on 5/13/10


Let me say this so you all can understand. ALL Christians are required by God to keep the Two Commandments Jesus gave, the 10 Commandments, and the sacrifical command (now we are the sacrifice - present your body as a living sacrifice holy unto God, and die to your flesh). According to 1 John, if people that claim to be Christians do not keep these above commands, they are NOT Christians, but fakes. The commands do not save us, or make us right before God, but are a sign that we TRULY belong to God (our fruit). Christians keep (obey) these commands out of gratefulness to God for what He has done (we do not want to hurt Him).
---Leslie on 5/13/10


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Mark_Eaton: "Why do we continue to ask the same questions?"

Four reasons: one, because they are newly born christians seeking answers, two, older christians who are weak in the faith seeking answers, three, non-believers and christians in name only who want to stir up trouble, and four, christians who want to see what other christians believe.

Be patient with the first two reason.

Why anyone whould ever trust anyone on these blogs, including myself, is beyond me. You should test every post and compare it with scripture with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
---Steveng on 5/13/10


Are Christians required to keep the Two Commandments given by Jesus which summed the Law and the Prophets?

Safe to say that these commandments were NOT NEW commandments given by Jesus.


Deuteronomy 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Leviticus 19:18 ,, thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.

Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.


Matthew 22:39 .. Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

These point strait back to the TEN (NOT NINE) but TEN COMMANDMENTS.

So start BOTH, not ONE
---francis on 5/13/10


\\If the ten commandments supposed to be kept by Christians how come most of Christianity keeps Sunday?
---SandyG on 5/13/10\\

SandyG, it depends on what you mean by "keep." Actually, the commandment as originally given has NOTHING to do with worship, but resting from labor which extended to even farm animals and slaves.

Since Jews have services twice daily, thinking it's talking about worship is projecting rather late Christian practice onto the commandment.


\\Christians are required to keep All of Christ's Commandments.
---Eloy on 5/13/10\\

Does this include keeping kosher, separating women during menses, and stoning rebellious teens, Eloy?
---Cluny on 5/13/10


\\Cluny: "Does this include..."

Your worldly knowledge of scripture is showing.
---Steveng on 5/12/10\\

At least you admit I know the Bible, Steveng.

When I repeatedly asked you if something were in the Bible, you refused to answer.
---Cluny on 5/13/10


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Why do we continue to ask the same questions?

This is NOT a hard one.

Jesus told us that our righteousness had to exceed that of the Pharisees. The Pharisees kept the Law, all ??? commandments.

So how can our righteousness exceed that of keeping the Law?

By following what Jesus said. By being Born of the Spirit (accepting God's free gift of salvation) and by keeping these two commandments.

If we Love God with all that we are, then we will do everything to please Him. That includes reading His Word, talking to Him, learning His ways, etc., etc., etc.

Treating other people with the same attitude we treat ourselves will simply be a by-product of that love for God.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/13/10


When we try to teach children complicated things, we simplify words or phrases so they can be easily understood.

If we wanted to simplify the word Sabbath, what would we tell a child?

We would tell them that this day commemorates God's finished work of creation and by way of commemoration, we cease from performing work and by doing so, gives man an effective day of rest. If we simplified that even more, we would say the Sabbath is a "day of rest honoring God".

Therefore, God says to you in the fourth commandment:

"Honor the day of rest that honors Me and keep it separated unto Me".
---Mark_Eaton on 5/13/10


Thw sabbath day is to be kept by Israel, the remnant that has not yet accpeted Christ. The New Covenant in Christ has no such commandment.
---micha9344 on 5/13/10

FROM WHAT TEXT DID YO GET THIS?

In the BIBLE even the OT all believers hebrew or none hebrew are to keep the sabbath

Isaiah 56:2 Blessed [is] the man [that] doeth this, and the son of man [that] layeth hold on it, that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.

Isaiah 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant,
---francis on 5/13/10


The OLD Testament is just that, OLD: and the NEW Testament is just that, NEW. These are two separate and different covenants which are enmity against each other, one is B.C. before Christ, and the other is A.D. in the Annual of the Lord: for one is the ministry of death, take an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth and a life for a life, but the other is the ministry of life, forgive the penetant and turn the other cheek when struck and love your enemy. Obey the New Law, and not the old dead law which Christ has completely nailed to the cross and totally obliterated. Christ has given us his New Commandments to obey, which is written in his own blood.
---Eloy on 5/13/10


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Thw sabbath day is to be kept by Israel, the remnant that has not yet accpeted Christ. The New Covenant in Christ has no such commandment.
---micha9344 on 5/13/10


If the ten commandments supposed to be kept by Christians how come most of Christianity keeps Sunday?
---SandyG on 5/13/10


Christians are required to keep All of Christ's Commandments.
---Eloy on 5/13/10


aka: SDA
---jerry6593 on 5/13/10


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Matthew 22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
---a_friend on 5/12/10


Exo 20:2 I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it [is] a sign between me and you throughout your generations, that [ye] may know that I [am] the LORD that doth sanctify you
Exodus 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, [for] a perpetual covenant.
Deuteronomy 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and [that] the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
---micha9344 on 5/12/10


YES! There are 10 by the Father and 2 by Jesus The Christ.

We are to obey all 12 (A significant number in scripture) commandments including keeping the sabbath!
---John on 5/12/10


All ten commandments are spoken of or acted upon in the New Testament which did not exist when these words were spoken. Romans 13:9, Mark 10:19

2 John 1:5-6
Romans 7:12

The ultimate commandment:
John 13:34
John 15:12
John 15:17
1 John 2:7-8
Revelation 14:12
Revelation 22:14

Love is the fulfilling of the law. Walking in it is the only command that will get you into heaven.
---Steveng on 5/12/10


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Cluny: "Does this include..."

Your worldly knowledge of scripture is showing.
---Steveng on 5/12/10


let see,when jesus spoke he said,two new commandments I give you,seems well said and EASYLY UNDERSTOOD,so I would say yes.
---tom2 on 5/12/10


\\ALL Christians are required to keep ALL of the Commandments of God - this is proof that you are a Christian, and not a fake.
---Leslie on 5/12/10\\

Does this include not eating pork, shellfish, or cheeseburgers?

How about not wearing blended fabrics, or two different kinds of cloth?

Does your church have special pews for women to sit in during their periods? (Believe it or not, I know one that did.) The Bible forbids them to sit on the same chairs or sleep in the same beds as men.

How about stoning a rebellious teenager?
---Cluny on 5/12/10


ALL Christians are required to keep ALL of the Commandments of God - this is proof that you are a Christian, and not a fake.
---Leslie on 5/12/10


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\\There are 613 commandments, If God said all
613 of them does that settle it?\\

Actually, there are quite a few of them that do NOT apply to Gentiles.

Furthermore, there are others that cannot be applied outside of the Holy Land.

Finally, there are others, such as land reverting to the original owners every 50 years that are now impossible to follow or enforce.
---Cluny on 5/12/10


If Jesus said it, doesn't that settle it?

Lawrence, there are actually 613 commandments.
---Cluny on 5/12/10

There are 613 commandments, If God said all
613 of them does that settle it?
---francis on 5/12/10


If you keep the 2, you don't have to worry about the rest.
The 10 are passive, Jesus calls us to be active, to go beyond passivity.
Matthew 25:34-36 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
Mic 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good, and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?
---micha9344 on 5/12/10


If we were able to keep the letter of the Law (10 Commandments) or the spirit of the Law (summation of the 10 commandment), we would not need a Savior Jesus Christ.

BTW-Jerry, I said that I had no affiliation with any church or organiztion, as you asked, but I asked you the same, and got no reply. You must have missed it. So, to what church and/or organization do you belong?
---aka_joseph on 5/12/10


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YES! Because in keeping thease 2 you are covering the 10 commandments. the first one covers 1-4 & the second 5-10.
---candice on 5/12/10


It would be amazing if we were not expected to keep those two!

Why did you ask?
---alan88566_of_uk on 5/12/10


If Jesus said it, doesn't that settle it?

Consider the alternative. Are you saying you will be let into heaven if you HATE God and your neighbor?

Lawrence, there are actually 613 commandments.
---Cluny on 5/12/10


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