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True STrongAx. I give book and location. Ellen G. White official website allows you to look up the actual quote.

If I lied and you looked up the quote you could point to me and make a true statement that I am using lies.

I want you to check her out and read her writings. Even if you choose to still believe she is false because you disagree with our doctrine. You are at least making an informed decision on the facts not lies.

Christ's Object Lessons Pg. 390

The truth of God's free grace had been almost lost sight of by the Jews. The rabbis taught that God's favor must be earned. The reward of the righteous they hoped to gain by their own works.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/19/15


Samuelbb7:

Cluny wrote: All my quotes from EGW can be verified on the official White web site. (I gave it, and that could be why the answer didn't make it here.)

You wrote: When I copy from the website and paste them here they show up.

As text can be copied from anywhere (and even altered), copy+paste without corroboration is hearsay. For testimony to be reliable, you need to point to the witness in question, either by posting an URL to the page, or by describing an easy procedure to search for it.

This site forbids posting of URLs, and the posting robot automatically deletes posts that contain them.
---StrongAxe on 6/18/15


\\ in that they received the word with all readiness of mind,\\

The "word" they received was what the Apostles told them.
---Cluny on 6/18/15

You are right and their word/truth/Gospel aligned perfectly with the prophets scriptures.
Just as it does now for those who don't let false prophets, false teachers like ellen g. wrong subvert them.

2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
2Ti 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
2Ti 3:9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
---Trav on 6/18/15


\\ in that they received the word with all readiness of mind,\\

The "word" they received was what the Apostles told them.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/18/15


All my quotes from EGW can be verified on the official White web site. (I gave it, and that could be why the answer didn't make it here.)

Cluny

When I copy from the website and paste them here they show up.

Also you did not give any book chapter or page number in this blog. You simply made accusations. Nor did you respond to my answers directly.

A Letter of Comfort and Assurance by Ellen G. White

(This letter was written April 23, 1890, to Samuel Fulton, }

"My much respected brother in the Lord, I am afflicted as I learn of your affliction. But our only hope is in Christ our righteousness. You may trust in the Lord with all your heart. He will never fail you."

See it is easy. Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/18/15




Cluny: "Where does the Bible itself suggest those things? - BCV, please."

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.


Perhaps StrongAxe can help you understand these scriptures.



---jerry6593 on 6/18/15


\\Samuel & I base our doctrines on the Bible only - as EGW suggested.\\

Where does the Bible itself suggest those things?

BCV, please.

**Cluny you did not say where she said those things. **

As a matter of fact, I DID say, but the response got swallowed into the cybervoid.

All my quotes from EGW can be verified on the official White web site. (I gave it, and that could be why the answer didn't make it here.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/17/15


StrongAxe: I will address you rather than Cluny, because he will not answer direct questions, but diverts the conversation onto a side rail to spout the same old tired lies about EGW that he was corrected on years ago.

I appreciate your taking the time to participate in a rational exchange of ideas, rather than the mud-slinging style of Cluny. My comments about Cluny's Orthodoxy are based on his own posts about it over the years.

Samuel & I base our doctrines on the Bible only - as EGW suggested. This is the ONLY point of common ground from which our debates can originate.


---jerry6593 on 6/17/15


Cluny you did not say where she said those things. She did say: "England is studying whether it is best to take advantage of the present weak conditions of our nation and venture to make war upon her. She is weighing the matter.." Testimonies 1. pg 259.

Not they lying paraphrase told you. She also did not say Enoch was on Jupiter. Again a lying paraphrase which you have not read.

Cluny often I have asked you as a scholar for back up. But on this topic you are not acting as a scholar who checks his sources but spreading lies you have read.

Be a true scholar and find the original and verify they are telling the truth. Just like Jerry should do about your church.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/16/15


Dear Kathr. Cluny gave no proof.

To a point you are correct. E. G. White is like Martin Luther a commentator on scripture.
---
Who the Beast is was decided by Protestant Scholars many years before E.G. White was born. Just ask Martin Luther.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/16/15
Samuel, anyone can be a commentator. That proves nothing. Everyone here is a commentator!

As far as the beast, Paul tells us in Thesselonians won't be revealed UNTIL, the falling away. So those who say the RCC are guessing. So for anyone to say they know for a fact, is wrong.
---kathr4453 on 6/16/15




\\What Ellen did was not considered true prophecy\\

That's because she was not a true prophet.

She said that Enoch was living on either Jupiter or Saturn (I don't remember which) and that the people there were untouched by sin.

She also said that Great Britain would attack the USA during the Civil War. It didn't happen.

There are others. Shall I go on?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/16/15


jerry6593:

You said: Strange that you show up when StrongAxe disappears.

As I have mentioned several times on these blogs, I happen to know Cluny personally (for around 14 years), and I happen to agree with what he says a lot of the time. I also disagree with what he says a lot of the time, and frequently do so on here. As he has mentioned several times, he was raised Baptist, but is now Orthodox, and I am not. I was raised Catholic, but disagree with a lot of the things that the Catholic church teaches (including some of the things that they share with the Orthodox churches, although I cannot speak for all, as I have never actually studied Orthodoxy).
---StrongAxe on 6/16/15


Dear Kathr. Cluny gave no proof.

To a point you are correct. E. G. White is like Martin Luther a commentator on scripture.

She also writes many letters telling people to follow Jesus and quit doing wrong.

She did not predict when Jesus would come. She warned against doing so. But she always stated Jesus could come in their lifetime and hoped and prayed it would happen.

Who the Beast is was decided by Protestant Scholars many years before E.G. White was born. Just ask Martin Luther.

She did say that the United States would reject much of it's protestant history and it and many former protestant churches would reach out to Rome and follow it's lead.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/16/15


Cluny: "The notion that life can create itself is EXACTLY what abiogenesis means."

No wonder you're so confused about Orthodoxy. You believe the opposite of truth. According to Webster's Dictionary, abiogenesis is "the origin of life from nonliving matter".

What you call Orthodoxy contains 2nd Century apostate doctrines such as Sunday worship and spiritualism, as well as modern false creation doctrine.

Strange that you show up when StrongAxe disappears.



---jerry6593 on 6/16/15


A true prophet of God bats 1000. She doesn't.---Cluny on 6/15/15

What Ellen did was not considered true prophecy. She tried to interpret what was already prophesied. This is not even the gift of propheSY either. It's something anyone can do, you and me. And our interpretation of any given scripture can be wrong. Ellen is no different than a John Calvin or John Hagee or Joel Osteen., or Joseph Smith. They all have their followers. You can take them or leave them. But I'm sure anyone today who wants their 15 minutes of fame, can write a book calling themselves a prophet, and you know gullible people will believe and follow. We see it every day. Some people even end up dead following these self proclaimed voices from God.
---kathr4453 on 6/16/15


Samuel, also the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of PropheCY today. That is the ONLY prophecy today....to testify of what Jesus Christ has done in you life. How the transformation from the old to the new, THROUGH THE CROSS. Paul in all his epistles and his own testimony in Acts is the Testimony of Jesus. So those who have the Testimony of Jesus KNOW when all else is false prophecy. Picking times and dates and saying you know who and what the beast is....and then being WRONG, is not a prophet.
---kathr4453 on 6/16/15


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\\Cluny I have listed the false teachings of the Orthodox elsewhere.\\

Orthodoxy has no false teachings.

Go back and read what I said, which was that EGW has false PROPHECIES.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/15/15


Cluny I have listed the false teachings of the Orthodox elsewhere. That is saying nothing. You gave some points and I responded about how you were incorrect. Which you never answered. But if you knew those points then, why do you not know them now?

If you say she teaches false doctrine then you must show how and where. If you stay she made a false prophecy then show it.

Great Controversy Chapter 37.pg.593

The people of God are directed to the Scriptures as their safeguard against the influence of false teachers and the delusive power of spirits of darkness. Satan employs every possible device to prevent men from obtaining a knowledge of the Bible, for its plain utterances reveal his deceptions.

agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/15/15


micha,

Thanks for your question.

1. I believe in the 5-fold ministry (apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers)

2. the definition of apostle is one who is called, sent, and appointed and the definition of prophet is 1 who speaks or stands in the place of God.

3. It is God who does is all not man.
---john9346 on 6/15/15


\\Old joke Cluny. Doesn't prove she's a false. \\

I've listed her false prophecies elsewhere. These are those I've gleaned from the official White estate site.

A true prophet of God bats 1000. She doesn't.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/15/15


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Old joke Cluny. Doesn't prove she's a false.


Samuel, the purpose of the NT prophet is to propheSY.. Not propheCY. Please look up the meaning of both. Prophets in the NT correspond with PropheSY, meaning to REITERATE WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOLD. this is what propheSY means. Also Revelation states, the Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of propheCY. kathr4453

Which is why Kathr that over 95 percent of what E. G. White did was prophesy tell people using the Bible truth they were wrong.

As for the Mark of the Beast. We believe that the RCC is the Antichrist organization. See Protestant history. Read Foxes book of Martyrs.

We do not base our doctrine on EGW. But on JESUS and His word the Bible.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/15/15


In referencing Ephesians 4:9-13, do you also believe there are apostles today?
And, John, could you tell us how you define the terms "apostles" and "prophets", so that we may have a better understanding of why you answer the way you do?
---micha9344 on 6/15/15


Greetings,

Great question,

Yes, prophets are still in existance today.

See, Hebrews 13:8, 1 Corinthian 13:9-10, and Ephesians 4:9-13.
---john9346 on 6/14/15


\\Many atheist say the Bible has over a thousand mistakes and they have a list. So is the Bible false since they say so?\\

No, but EGW is.

Her name adds up to 666, BTW.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/14/15


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\\Cluny: The development of new life forms by natural selection IS EXACTLY what the Darwinian religion teaches. I did not mention abiogenesis.
\\

OOOOOHHHH! What a story teller you are, jerry.

Here is where you mentioned abiogenesis:

\\ You believe that life can create itself (Evolution). \\

The notion that life can create itself is EXACTLY what abiogenesis means.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/14/15


StrongAxe: Let me make it plain. Do you or do you not believe that the Orthodox Church follows orthodox Christian doctrine? There is a rather simple test. Compare their doctrine to that of the Bible. Do they comport, or do they follow the teachings of men instead?

And why can't Cluny answer for himself?



---jerry6593 on 6/15/15


faithforfaith wrote: "There are no more "prophets" at all. God used prophets "IN TIMES PAST" to "speak to our forefathers" (Hebrews 1)."

You, too, will not recognize the last two prophets mentioned by John in Revelation. You are the one that will exchange gifts upon their death because they do not conform to your denominational "church's" doctrines.

This has been posted many times in the past, but apparently no one believes the words of Jesus:

1 Corinthians 12:28
1 Corinthians 14:29, 37
Ephesians 4:1-16
John 14:12
---Steveng on 6/14/15


Samuel, the purpose of the NT prophet is to propheSY.. Not propheCY. Please look up the meaning of both. Prophets in the NT correspond with PropheSY, meaning to REITERATE WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOLD. this is what propheSY means. Also Revelation states, the Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of propheCY.
We have all we need, from Genesis to Revelation. The problem is , many do not believe Revelation is FUTURE, and they believe it has already come to pass, meaning to them we are now in the dark as to what the future holds making up false PropheCy, who will find themselves deceived by the FALSE PROPHET.
No wonder many today are easily seduced into believing something new and different.
---kathr4453 on 6/14/15


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Fact Mark Of The Beast. These Sunday laws will be enforced by persecution.

The mark of the beast is the papal Sabbath.
Evangelism, page 234.
Sunday keeping is not yet the mark of the beast, and will not be until the decree goes forth causing men to worship this idol Sabbath. The time will come when this day will be the test, but that time has not come yet.


Here is an example of what I am talking about. The above is Ellen White. IF the SDA's truly believe this, then they are going to be in for a rude awakening. For one, NO ONE bows down to Sunday. And to even suggest those who go to church on Sunday have the mark of the beast and worship the beast is so far off the mark, it's not even funny.
---kathr4453 on 6/14/15


jerry6593:

You said: StrongAxe: So, in summary, you conclude that Cluny is a non-orthodox Orthodox. Is that about right? Do you also conclude that all who claim to be Orthodox are not orthodox. It is my belief that the Orthodox believe themselves to be orthodox. Do you disagree?

"orthodox" has a specific linguistic meaning in English, and is used in many contexts.
"Orthodox" has a specific theological meaning in the Orthodox church (and a similar but different one in Orthodox Judaism, for that matter). To what extent Orthodox Christianity differs from orthodox Christianity, I am not qualified to answer. All I can say is that the the two words have related, but slightly different meanings.
---StrongAxe on 6/14/15


She prophecied the end of the world. It didn't happen. Trav

She spoke hundreds if not thousands of times on the Second Coming. Which is not the end of the world. She never prophesied when He would come.

Are you saying we should not be telling people Jesus is coming?

In all but two times she said when we finish the work or when GOD decides. There are two times she did not use this phrase.

So should all her words, which you do not know and have not read, be judged by her not adding a phrase two out of hundreds of times?

Many atheist say the Bible has over a thousand mistakes and they have a list. So is the Bible false since they say so?

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/14/15


StrongAxe: So, in summary, you conclude that Cluny is a non-orthodox Orthodox. Is that about right? Do you also conclude that all who claim to be Orthodox are not orthodox. It is my belief that the Orthodox believe themselves to be orthodox. Do you disagree?



Nicole: "Jerry you are truly confused."

You confuse me. I have no idea what you are talking about. Perhaps you could quote me on that which you reference.



---jerry6593 on 6/14/15


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faith for faith. The Apostles and the Bible disagree with you.

Act 11:27

1Corithians 12:28
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Jerry I believe was trying to say the teachings of the Orthodox church don't match the teachings of the Bible.

Evolution teaches that all current animals come from single cell creatures that over millions of years became many different animals. Humans are related to mushrooms. That does not match the Bible.

I have had to teach evolution in class.

Agape.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/13/15


jerry6593:

You wrote: As I have researched the meaning of Orthodoxy, I find that it is based on the "straight" teachings of Jesus and the Apostles. Cluny's and perhaps your version of Orthodoxy includes doctrines wholly foreign to the teachings of the Apostles

The word "orthodox" (no capital) is a general term that refers to conforming to accepted doctrine. The word "Orthodox" (capitalized) refers to a specific subset of Christianity, conforming to certain specific doctrines. While these two are related, they are not the same. For Cluny to say that he is Orthodox, and for you to then say that he is not orthodox, is arguing apples and oranges.
---StrongAxe on 6/13/15


Jerry you are truly confused. ONLY GOD SHOULD YOU ADORE!
You don't know anything about Catholics.
You repeat nonsense you have heard and run with it as if you discovered some type of knowledge.
First, make sure the information is correct before repeating the message.
2nd, verify your the source.

Plus, how can you tell someone what they believe? That is silly.
God isn't going to call you on Judgement day to stand at His side and tell Him each person's beliefs.

Why don't you talk about your own beliefs.

Where do you come off telling someone else what he is or is not?

If I tell you I am a woman how are you going to tell me I am not a woman but a man???

Many on this website amazes me. Very rude.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/12/15


StrongAx: "What makes you an expert on the teachings of the Orthodox Church?"

As I have researched the meaning of Orthodoxy, I find that it is based on the "straight" teachings of Jesus and the Apostles. Cluny's and perhaps your version of Orthodoxy includes doctrines wholly foreign to the teachings of the Apostles, some of which I have delineated below. Among these is Darwinian Evolution. I do not claim to be an expert on modern Orthodoxy. Like the Bereans, I prefer to test doctrinal claims by the Bible only.


Cluny: The development of new life forms by natural selection IS EXACTLY what the Darwinian religion teaches. I did not mention abiogenesis.



---jerry6593 on 6/13/15


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There are no more "prophets" at all. God used prophets "IN TIMES PAST" to "speak to our forefathers" (Hebrews 1).

Don't listen to people who want you to let them judge you (satan wants them to use you...and they are getting your cooperation).
---faithforfaith on 6/13/15


\\ You believe that life can create itself (Evolution). \\

BTW, jerry, Darwinian evolutionary theory has nothing to say about the origin of life, but only how it developed.

Doesn't it bother you to pop off about things you know nothing about?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/12/15


Jerry please stop. You are not speaking wisely.

Trav you proved my point by spouting a lie.

She wrote "England is studying whether it is best to take advantage of the present weak conditions of our nation and venture to make war upon her. She is weighing the matter.." Testimonies 1. pg 259.

Not the paraphrase you were told. How do know she has not contributed anything?

The Bible is the final Authority.

Testimonies 1:210 "I say that the enemy would come in every way possible to dishearten the people of GOD and perplex and trouble them, and that they should move understandingly, and prepare themselves for the attacks of Satan."

Are you saying this is bad advise?
---Samuelbb7 on 6/12/15


jerry6593:

You said: Cluny: You are NOT Orthodox, as has been adequately shown. You believe in Theistic Evolution - the constant development of new life forms by Natural Selection.

What makes you an expert on the teachings of the Orthodox Church? How much personal experience have you had with it, or studying its theology? Can you cite any sources that say that theistic evolution is incompatible with it?

Genesis says God created various creatures, but it doesn't go into any detail as to HOW he accomplished that. Even with humans, the details are scant. To go from lump of mud to fully-formed human is a complicated enough process that none of us could do it ourselves, even though it only takes a verse to describe.
---StrongAxe on 6/12/15


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\\You believe in Theistic Evolution - the constant development of new life forms by Natural Selection.
\\

What I have said is I have no trouble with a model of evolution that involves God in the process.

Unlike you, I don't limit God to one reading or interpretation of Genesis.

Why cannot God act through natural processes that He Himself set up? Please explain.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/12/15


Cluny: You are NOT Orthodox, as has been adequately shown. You believe in Theistic Evolution - the constant development of new life forms by Natural Selection.


---jerry6593 on 6/12/15


\\ You believe that life can create itself (Evolution). \\

I never said that.

One more lie you tell about me.

BTW, there are more Orthodox than all Protestants world wide. We are hardly insignificant.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/11/15


\\... same religion with a different Pope.\\

If you think this, you know nothing about Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism, or Anglicanism.
---Cluny on 6/10/15

We see you feel superior to all other beliefs. Remarkable thing after all these years is you've never convinced anyone.
You've posted countless opinions but, never posted one scriptural witness your church is scripturally "the only place/way".

To me and many you can shake the three of you orthocathoanglo's up and it is the same universalist that falls out of the sack, all look the same, "unscriptural". And then you prove it by having none.
Mat_7:13 ...broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, many there be which go in thereat:
---Trav on 6/11/15


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Cluny "you know nothing about Orthodoxy"

I know that YOU are not orthodox because you do not believe what the Apostles believed. You hold the opinions of men (church fathers) above the Word of God. You believe in a counterfeit rest day. You believe in spiritualism - that people are immortal, non-corporeal entities. You believe in the cannibalism of transubstantiation. You believe that life can create itself (Evolution). You adore Mary as a living heavenly being.

Sounds pretty Catholic to me.


---jerry6593 on 6/11/15


\\That's because they are irrelevant. Just like the Anglican Church, they are the same religion with a different Pope.\\

If you think this, you know nothing about Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism, or Anglicanism.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/10/15


...One reason I believe in what she says.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/10/15

She contributes nothing viable. She prophecied the end of the world. It didn't happen. One false prophecy makes a false prophet. How could she ever ever be trusted again?
It is a personal mark on you that you put faith in her but, reject the proven prophets of GOD.
In 1862 she predicted that "when England does declare war [against the North, during the civil war]. all nations will have an interest of their own to serve, and there will be general war, general confusion." The result will be that "this nation [the United States] will...be humbled into the dust".
-Testimonies for the Church, vol. 1, p. 259.
---Trav on 6/10/15


No there are not dozens of examples. There are three main ones. There are many attacks and lies about her and what she said. If like me you had read her writings and been answering her attackers for over forty years then you would know this.

Jesus was attacked and accused of being a false prophet by church leaders in his day. Do you think you should follow what the attackers say without checking to see if they are true?

I have been and continue to go to websites showing they are lying. Bring forth your evidence to show you have checked to see if these are false prophecies?

One reason I believe in what she says. Is that lies have to be told to make her a false prophetess.

agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/10/15


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Cluny: "There is not one mention of the Orthodox or other Eastern churches."

That's because they are irrelevant. Just like the Anglican Church, they are the same religion with a different Pope.


Did anyone else note that this is a 5 year old blog that was recently resurrected?



---jerry6593 on 6/10/15


In the index to EGW's writings, there are pages and pages about the Roman Catholic Church.

There is not one mention of the Orthodox or other Eastern churches.

Why is that?

Glory to Jesus Christ.
---Cluny on 6/9/15


samuelbb7:

Deut. 8:22:
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

You said: I do believe in a Prophetess who walked this earth. Many reject here because she helped found a new church and told people what they did not want to hear.

No, they reject her because God told them to (see above). Google: false prophecies of ellen white for dozens of examples.
---StrongAxe on 6/2/15


Some true and good points have been made about prophets. Both true and false.

I do believe in a Prophetess who walked this earth. Many reject here because she helped found a new church and told people what they did not want to hear.

Many people hate her today because she pointed out we are to follow Jesus and keep his Commandments.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/2/15


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Denominational "churches" have watered down God's word. ---Steveng on 6/1/15

NOT THE RCC!

The reason why some of you all know some rituals and tradition is because the RCC keeps all records and documents. The good, bad and ugly.

God's Word can't change, and the RCC will not change anything just because people demand it!

No Divorce, abortion or women Priests.

Jesus gave the keys to Peter and Peter still has the keys to heaven and earth until Jesus returns as He promise.
But He also kept his Word when He told us He will never leave us alone by His gift of Body and Blood.
No break in the line of the Priesthood in the Catholic or Orthodox Church.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/2/15


Most of you will not recognize the last two prophets mentioned by John in Revelation. You are the ones that will exchange gifts upon their death because they do not conform to your denominational "church's" doctrines. Satan has had over two thousand years to infiltrate and divide christiandom up into over sixty thousnad different worldside denominations each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. Denominational members are only hearers of the word, but deny the true power of God. Denominational "churches" have watered down God's word.

True prophets do not belong to worldly denominational churches.

And, yes, christians are to judge - righteous judging.
---Steveng on 6/1/15


The Church should know by the word of God whether a man holds the office of a prophet. Because the church in the world has been ignorant and, for the most part, void of the offices of the five-fold ministries, it has failed to teach about the office of a prophet. I suppose the main reason is that there have been few prophets down through history. On the other hand there have been, and are, more than most people think. It is important for the people of the world and the church to recognize such an office established by God Himself.
---Prov31Diamond on 6/1/15


According to Paul, God set prophets in the church as well as apostles, teachers, pastors, and evangelists. Nowhere does Scripture say that prophets would not be in the church today. Some people have heard false prophecy and thus decided that prophets do not exist today. Others have been told that prophets are not in the church today. Finally, there are some who have not tuned in to prophecy and so they reject prophets. Let us examine the Word for our answers.
Counterfeits do not mean there are no real ones any more than a fake apple makes every real apple false or non-existent.
---chria4685 on 7/23/10


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Yes there are, people whom God has picked to raise their voice and call out for repentance and judgement. Very few listen because they speak of judgment from God'd hand, telling people what they don't want to hear. While many false prophets and false preachers speak of peace money and good comfortable living.
---toni on 7/23/10


Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
---micha9344 on 5/27/10


\\[God can back me up with everything that He gives me with Scriptures].\\

catherine, on another blog you said that this entity you call "God" told you that he didn't know if he could save some one.

In other words, the entity you worship says that his arm is so short it cannot save.

That's NOT what the God of the Bible says about himself.

Now what?
---Cluny on 5/27/10


I do not care about your disagreements, because I know who I am. I know what I am without Jesus. [God can back me up with everything that He gives me with Scriptures]. I have been severe persecuted almost from the very beginning of my salvation, new birth, raised from the dead....I have been imprisoned, shunned by people and family, as if I have some kind of disease. I have had property destroyed by people whom Satan loves to use. I have been in a war almost from the very beginning. As Jesus said it, "you know Satan hates you"..... God is faithful. God is teaching me how to fight. Not to run. Like at the airports. Oh watch it, a bomb, and everybody starts running. Just because somebody said the word. Hallelujah.
---catherine on 5/27/10


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Catherine-- Are you saying (in your post of 5/18) that YOU are persecuted? How so? Is disagreeing with you persecution? Be thankful you are not a prophet like Jeremiah!

People are not persecuting you by asking you to back up your proclamations with actual excerpts from scripture...instead of asking us to just believe whatever you SAY GOD has spoken to you.
---Donna66 on 5/25/10


you are nothing but devils. ---cathrine on 5/18/10

catherine I think we all need to begin to pray for you. Who are you calling nothing but devils? Those of us on this board?

You proclaim to be one of the few prophets out there..that simply is not the truth. First John talks about walking in the truth and if you do, you will know one another by that.

Plus catherine, a TRUE prophet of God doesn't go around saying, I'm a prophet, listen to me because I'm one of God's prophet. He just moves in His gift and doesn't try to convince anyone or everyone he or she is a prophet.
---Donna5535 on 5/25/10


John 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
---micha9344 on 5/18/10


Well, Satan has many, many, many, prophets. God, so few in number it's not funny! Perhaps only three in this country.
---catherine on 5/18/10


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"The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." In the words of Jesus "If anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him, for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world.
He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has one that judges him--the Word that I have spoken, the same, will judge him in the last day." It is that day "when God will judge the 'secrets of men' (as that which man has attempted to hide or conceal) by Jesus, [The] Christ".
The Holy Spirit "reproves" the 'world' (as the inhabitants of the earth) of judgment. Why? Because the prince of this world-system- has been judged. Rev. 19:10>Jhn 12:47,48>Rom 2:16>John 16:8,11
---Josef on 5/18/10


I believe they truly are Profits!
But not Prophets!
---John on 5/18/10


There are only a very few true prophets in the world today. God has placed only a few among you. But, what do you do with God's favor. You kill us. You persecute us. You are Blood hungry. You mock us, you are nothing but devils. And speaking of the devil. How he hates God's prophets, because, he knows we represent the true, living God. Out comes God's goodwill toward man. stop persecuting my prophets, or you will pay, ah.
---cathrine on 5/18/10


The best prophet of judgment is Christ and we have his word in front of us. There is no need to wait on some TV huckster scaring the snot our of people who presents Christ only as a judge and not as a savior.

Christ uses "judgment" 6 times from Matthew 5 - Matthew 11.
---larry on 5/17/10


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I find it strange that Catherine doesn't know what "judgement prophet" is. There are lots of people going around saying they are prophets and that God told them this or that. They are all false!!!!
---KarenD on 5/17/10


Cluny is right,some think they are Prophets when they really aren't. Even when a person does see something which is going to happen in the future that doesn't make them a Prophet. I have never heard of the concept of Judgement Prophets. People put labels on things or other people which has no value or meaning at all. Prophets in the Old Testament had many gifts not just foretelling the future. They healed the sick,raised the dead,and other miraculous things. God is our Judge,not a mere moral.
---Darlene_1 on 5/17/10


LOL at Cluny's response.."some of them post here." thanks for the chuckle Cluny.

If there are prophets who proclaim judgement, they must do it in Love. "Speak the truth in LOVE." If not, it's not received.

What do you mean by Judgement? We aren't to judge anyone. We are to proclaim the GOSPEL, not judgement.

We are NOT to judge, we are to warn, speak the truth, "Unless ye repent, ye shall perish" and then say, "Jesus's words, not mine." Something like that? Is that what you mean?

I told my father "unless you believe that Jesus was lying, He said, Ye must be Born Again." but I wasn't judging him. What do you mean by "Judgement" prophets?
---Donna5535 on 5/17/10


I think there are many who have a "spirit of judgement."

Paul says in Philippians, "...if there is any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and mercy, fulfill my joy by being like-minded, have the same love, being of one accord, of one mind."
---Rod4Him on 5/17/10


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What are judgments prophets?
---catherine on 5/17/10


There is only one Judge.
And there is nothing that can be said that hasn't already been said.
We have the Spirit of Truth at work within us, searching out the deep things of God, the Spirit of the all-knowing Father who guides us into all righteousness.
---micha9344 on 5/16/10


I believe there are people who think they are.

Some of them post here.
---Cluny on 5/16/10


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