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What is your opinion of someone who always prays with the following phrase included, "by the blood of Jesus Christ" do you approve or disapprove the inclusion of this phrase in a person's prayers?

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Matthew 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled

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John 4:13-14 Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst,


The bread is the WORD OF GOD who became flesh and dwelt among us.

---kathr4453 on 6/2/10

Kathr* the bread is the WORD OF GOD who became flesh and dwelt among

And Jesus tell us " if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh,(JHN 6:51)

None of these scriptures verse mentions anything about eating his flesh and drinking his blood, "is food and drink indeed"(JHN6:55)
---Ruben on 6/2/10


MarkV.* Ruben, you of all people have the guts to say to me, that I don't follow Christ.

It didn't take that much guts!

MarkV.* You come from a religion which worships saints instead of Christ. Who depends on Mary for eternal life, RCC wrote the Bible, Who defends the teachings against the deity of Christ, and Trinity.who believes that traditions are more important then God's Word

Show me documents

MarkV.* Who believes in purgatory, who claims Mary was a virgin after have many kids, who even says she was sinless, when she said she needed a Savior,.

Scripture and Tradition

MarkV.*The same stories for years, the same false teachings, nothing has change, not even you.

Right back to you!
---Ruben on 6/2/10


Matthew 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled

Psalm 107:9 For he satisfieth the longing soul, and filleth the hungry soul with goodness.
---kathr4453 on 6/2/10

Above bearing a remarkable resemblence to...
Isaiah 51
1Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.

2Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him.
---Trav on 6/2/10


Matthew 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled

Psalm 107:9 For he satisfieth the longing soul, and filleth the hungry soul with goodness.

John 4:13-14 Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst, but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.


The bread is the WORD OF GOD who became flesh and dwelt among us.

# 1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.


The WATER is the water of the WORD springing up in us.
---kathr4453 on 6/2/10


"I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread , he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my Flesh , which I will give for the life of the world. "
---Ruben on 6/1/10

So Ruben, you believe your ETERNAL LIFE is just eating and drinking?

The Word left GLORY and came down, became obedient unto death of a cross SO THAT we THROUGH Christ Finished work can receive salvation by faith in WHAT HE DID...not what you do!!!

Christ on the cross, who took our sin upon His flesh and died..GAVE for the life of the world!!!
---kathr4453 on 6/2/10




Cluny, you are right God loved the world, He created it. He loved everything He made. I could not agree more. You got that right. That is very simple and that is not a tradition, that is fact. That is what is called an Explicit Statement, it is not implying anything, it is giving a fact. It is not a metaphor or a simile. Just plain Truth.
Cluny, If I was deep in traditions, I would see you and Ruben, since we would all be together, but I am not there with both of you. I got to see the light and walked toward it. And here I am trying to help you get out too.
---MarkV. on 6/2/10


\\Does the world have a life? a breathing life? the people do, but does the world? step out from your traditions. OOp's traditions must be a room\\

You're stuck in your traditions, MarkV.

Read John 3:16, where it says that God SO LOVED THE WORLD.
---Cluny on 6/1/10


Ruben, "you are so deep in your traditions it is swallowing you up." Did you get that? It sounds like I said, traditions are swallowing you up. Can traditions swallow a person? Hello? are you there. Can traditions literally swallow you up? Can they eat people? Something has to click in your head. It is a figure of speech.
Just take that last sentence you gave,
"I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread , he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my Flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."
Does the world have a life? a breathing life? the people do, but does the world? step out from your traditions. OOp's traditions must be a room.
---MarkV. on 6/1/10


\\Cluny 2: I say this with love, not to condemn you. Just think with an open heart. If you love the Lord as you say you do you wouldn't you care about His deity? We know the Father is eternal, the Son is eternal, and so is the Spirit, what about the bread\\

I've never doubted the Deity of Christ. In fact, I hold the doctrines of the Trinity and Incarnation with a firmness that would make most of you look like Unitarians.

The teaching of the Church has ever been that the Father sends the Holy Spirit to change the Bread and Wine into the Body and Blood of Christ.

I need not "prove" this by Scripture, as actually the Bible is based on the faith of the Church, not the other way around.

Hard saying for many.
---Cluny on 6/1/10


kathr4453 * Ruben, John 6, those who walked away were compared to JUDAS.

Kathr, scripture says "Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying, who can hear it?" When they heard what? That Judas was going to betray him or "For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed."


kathr4453 * CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST (Gal 2:20-21)is the meaning behind eating my flesh and drinking my blood.


Kathr try again:

"I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread , he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my Flesh , which I will give for the life of the world. "
---Ruben on 6/1/10




Ruben, you of all people have the guts to say to me, that I don't follow Christ.
Now let me present this to you, You come from a religion which worships saints instead of Christ. Who depends on Mary for eternal life, who gets on his knees on the feet of saints to ask for miracles, who eats Christ every communion. Who defends the teachings against the deity of Christ, and Trinity. Who believes in purgatory, who claims the RCC wrote the Bible, who claims Mary was a virgin after have many kids, who even says she was sinless, when she said she needed a Savior, who believes that traditions are more important then God's Word. The same stories for years, the same false teachings, nothing has change, not even you.
---MarkV. on 6/1/10


"From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him"
---Ruben on 6/1/10


Ruben, John 6, those who walked away were compared to JUDAS who betrayed Jesus. Did Judas betray Jesus by refusing to eat His flesh and drink His blood? NO! Judas betrayal was believing Jesus was right THEN going to be KING and overthrow Rome. Judas failed to understand Jesus had to be crucified and rise again FIRST before that will happen. Judas represents those who DENY the CROSS, just as those who walked away.

CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST (Gal 2:20-21)is the meaning behind eating my flesh and drinking my blood.


Entering The KINGDON Reign will not require Gal 2:20-21!!!
---kathr4453 on 6/1/10


Just as the author of Hebrews
---kathr4453 on 5/28/10

Book of Hebrews,Jesus Christ is call the High Preist Heb 5:14 and the funtion of the High Preist is "to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins." Heb 5:1. And Jesus is call "Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek."Heb 5:6. And Jesus offer his "own blood" Heb 9:12. And Malachi 1:11 tell us:

"For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same, My name shall be great among the Gentiles. And in every place incense shall be offered unto My name, and a pure offering, for My name shall be great among the heathen," saith the LORD of hosts."
---Ruben on 6/1/10


Cluny, I don't want to fight honest. I just wanted to present something to you so that you can look at without pride. This love of Christ that we have calls us to know Him. For who He really is. We need to continue the fight to protect His deity. Just like the old time Church did. Just think about what this passages say in Hebrews 13:8,9,
"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them."
He goes on to say, "Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered outside the gate"
---MarkV. on 6/1/10


MarkV.*Through His death, Jesus would bring a new Exodus. Through the Cross, those in bondage would be set free.

Jesus said " This bread is my Flesh which I will give to the world (JHN 6:51) but you say no Jesus it was not your Flesh, it was symbolic!

MarkV.* No. He was not speaking literally.

They all understood him Literally!

" How can this man give us his Flesh"

"This is an hard saying, who can hear it? "

"Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life"

And Mark, you fall in this caterogy:

"From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him"
---Ruben on 6/1/10


---Cluny your evasive, defenseive answer to this question by Mark really shows your inability to reasonably defend your position.
---mima on 6/1/10


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Cluny, you are so far off on your answers. You know for a fact that the deity of Christ has been fought by the Church for many centuries from those who find material to argue. You are comparing the deity of Christ to alter calls etc. This is about the deity of Christ. The reason Athiest and others attack it, because by tradition so many things have been added by the Church. How can the Catholics or others defend the deity of Christ or the Trinity when they have those traditions which speak against the deity of Christ? The Church forgets about that and introduce traditions that go against His deity. If Jesus can transform Himself into a piece of bread how can the Trinity be defended? That God is four? Father Son, piece of bread, and Holy Spirit?
---MarkV. on 6/1/10


Cluny 2: I say this with love, not to condemn you. Just think with an open heart. If you love the Lord as you say you do you wouldn't you care about His deity? We know the Father is eternal, the Son is eternal, and so is the Spirit, what about the bread? Is it eternal? Another thing to consider is, that Jesus had two natures, one human and one God. Now you have to add another nature, that of a piece of bread. And what about those who ate Him, that would be one the cults would really use. The whole chain of events start happening. No Cluny, it is not the real body of Christ or the real blood in the cup, it is not literal, it has to be symbolic. We were to celebrate the communion in remembrance of Him.
---MarkV. on 6/1/10


\\You show us where in Scripture the Holy Spirit says He turns bread into the body of Jesus? Or that He turns wine into Jesus Blood?\\

When you show me in the Bible where they had altar calls, revivals, invitation hymns, and even brought their Bibles to worship, I'll answer your question.

Since it's been the belief of Christians from the Apostles' day to now--with the exception of a minority in the West since the 16th century--that this happens, it's rather your duty to show scripture to the contrary.

Sola scriptura is neither the game of the Pre-Reformation Apostolic Churches, nor of the Bible itself.
---Cluny on 6/1/10


Cluny, you say,
"The Holy Spirit has the power to effect the change. (This, btw is the official Orthodox teaching and word to describe what happens: "change".)"
You show us where in Scripture the Holy Spirit says He turns bread into the body of Jesus? Or that He turns wine into Jesus Blood? Nowhere is that mention anywhere in Scripture. Oh, the Holy Spirit can do anything, He could make a cow fly, but that doesn't mean He does it. And just because thousands believed that tradition by the Church does not make it Truth. The speech that Christ gave was not literal body or literal blood. It symbolized His body and blood.
---MarkV. on 6/1/10


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\\My question is to the RCC. Are you eating Jesus flesh that took on the sin of the world, therefore eating sin, or are you eating the Glorified Risen Christ? \\

For the Orthodox, the latter.


---Cluny on 5/28/10

So Cluny, now that you answered His Glorified flesh, and you also say it is LITERAL, does His flesh light up brighter that the sum in your mouth? Does it BURN? I'm not trying to be funny, but how can you be sure what GLORIFIED FLESH is and what it does and what form it takes?

No one has ever seen Jesus Glorified, not even Paul, as he was blinded by the brightness of HIS GLORY!
---kathr4453 on 6/1/10


\\First of all the bread has no power to change to Christ body, if it did, the bread would be deity.\\

Nobody said it did. Only you.

The Holy Spirit has the power to effect the change. (This, btw is the official Orthodox teaching and word to describe what happens: "change".)

And what you outlined in your next sentence is actually Luther's own doctrine, which is why the Roman Catholic Church (and for that matter, Orthodox Church) rejects it.
---Cluny on 6/1/10


Cluny, you said it was a prayer. If they preach what you say, they are not reform. Some of the reformers during the breakup of the Church were still following many traditions of the RCC. They were RCC themselves. But those who did, did it on their own because the Reformers stated their confessions of faith and I have them all. No where is there found any such practice.
First of all the bread has no power to change to Christ body, if it did, the bread would be deity. Second Christ does not change to a piece of bread if He did, then we would not have a Trinity but four in One. In the last supper Christ was alive, the cup did not have His blood, and the bread did not have His body. He would be in two places at one time in His incarnated state.
---MarkV. on 5/31/10


\\"However, this doctrine does appear in a Reformed Protestant prayer of the 17th century." as if to say that the doctrine of the Eucharist is the same as the RCC's. Just not true. What someone wants to pray is not doctrine. \\

Wrong.

"Lex orandi, lex credendi"--The Law of prayer is the Law of faith and belief.

It's not just the Roman Catholic Church that teaches this, but ALL the Pre-Reformation Churches.

ONLY in the 16th century in the West was the truth of Jesus's own words rejected.

As far as the quote from the Reformed Service I gave (the Savoy Liturgy, to be exact), you can find it in Gregory Dix's THE SHAPE OF THE LITURGY,.
---Cluny on 5/31/10


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Good point MarkV
---fay on 5/31/10


Cluny, you say,
"However, this doctrine does appear in a Reformed Protestant prayer of the 17th century." as if to say that the doctrine of the Eucharist is the same as the RCC's. Just not true. What someone wants to pray is not doctrine. The 1689 confessions of faith no where mention such a worship.
Now if you look at what the RCC teaches it says,
"that when the bread and wine are consecrated in the Eucharist, they cease to be bread and wine, and become instead the Most Precious Body and Blood of Christ. The empirical appearances are not changed, but the reality is."
So they do teach that the bread turns to Jesus flesh and the wine turns to His blood. No piece of bread or wine have that power.
---MarkV. on 5/30/10


\\My question is to the RCC. Are you eating Jesus flesh that took on the sin of the world, therefore eating sin, or are you eating the Glorified Risen Christ? \\

For the Orthodox, the latter.

|| Jesus doesn't need to be crucified over and over as does the RCC in every mass.\\

Which is not the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church.

However, this doctrine does appear in a Reformed Protestant prayer of the 17th century. "It is thus His will to be frequently crucified before your eyes." Did you know that?
---Cluny on 5/28/10


My question is to the RCC. Are you eating Jesus flesh that took on the sin of the world, therefore eating sin, or are you eating the Glorified Risen Christ?

mima, I believe apostasy is denying redemption through the Blood. Maybe this person who prays this is trying to keep truth in remembrance and if there are any new believers or old who may have not kept this truth in remembrance.

Just as the author of Hebrews warned those in Hebrews 10 (Jews who still wanted to keep the sacrifice) counting the blood of the covenant a common thing, these fail to realize it was ONCE AND FOR ALL! Jesus doesn't need to be crucified over and over as does the RCC in every mass.
---kathr4453 on 5/28/10


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Worth repeating:
Jesus said, "Take and eat, this is my body" Then He took the wine and said, "This is My blood of the Covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" Through His death, Jesus would bring a new Exodus. Through the Cross, those in bondage would be set free.
Yet, when Jesus gave the apostles the bread and the wine and said those words, the apostles didn't understand him literally. Jesus had not yet died, He was there in person. How could they have thought it was the real literal blood or His flesh? "Did Jesus cut a vain and poured blood in a cup? Cut off a peace of meat from Himself and layed it on the table?" No. He was not speaking literally.
---MarkV. on 5/28/10


\\The RCC believes that the priest transforms the bread and wine into the actual body and blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.\\

This is not what transubstantiation means, mima.

\\The Lutherans on the other hand to not believe the bread and wine become the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ until such time as they enter the mouth(touch the tongue).\\

This (which is called "receptionism") is not what Lutherans believe either.
---Cluny on 5/28/10


---fay I have not had a vision but I have had the following experience. While witnessing to a person they describe their conversion experience as being covered with a warm substance.
---mima on 5/28/10


---Samuel is correct there is a difference between what the RCC and the Lutherans believe concerning transubstantiation.

The RCC believes that the priest transforms the bread and wine into the actual body and blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.

The Lutherans on the other hand to not believe the bread and wine become the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ until such time as they enter the mouth(touch the tongue).
---mima on 5/28/10


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\\First Lutherns do not teach transubstation they teach something close but not as the RCC and Orthodox teach. \\

As a matter of fact, the Orthodox does not teach transubstantiation, either.

Probably few people here, including mima and Samuel, really know what the Roman Catholic Church means by "transubstantiation."
---Cluny on 5/27/10


I don't want to join in an argument, I just want to share a message. One time when I was praying for some one who was going to minister in an area where there was a lot of witchcraft, etc... The Lord gave me a vision of this person being covered from the top of her head to the tips of her toes in the blood of Jesus. In this vision the blood was thick as honey & covered her slowly as to create an impenetrable shield. i have no doubt the blood of Jesus is a very important part of prayer.

I ask Him now to reveal that truth to each & every one who reads this. In the name of Jesus. Amen!
---fay on 5/28/10


First Lutherns do not teach transubstation they teach something close but not as the RCC and Orthodox teach.

Most Protestants do not believe that humans are given the divine power to change bread and wine into the actual body and blood of JESUS.

Many people who are in the RCC do not know all that their church teaches. So many will concentrate only on some part. Which is why many members cannot tell you what and why they believe.
---Samuel on 5/27/10


mima * RCC teach cannibalism but also crucifies the Lord Jesus Christ over and over and over again on a daily basis.

No Mima "6For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come."(1 Cor 11:26)

mima* We are certain that symbolism was used by Jesus Christ at the Last Supper.

"Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord."""For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body"(1 Cor 27-29)

How can something that is symbolism cause to be unworthily and damnation to himself?
---Ruben on 5/27/10


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mima * A common error made in Protestant churches is their objection to the useing of real wine.

And the huge error of not beliving it is his real blood. "and my blood is drink indeed. "( John 6"55)

mima* The blood of the Lord Jesus Christ shed on the cross at Mount Calvary is the most important substance in the world to Christians.

But yet some do not believe in his words

""I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread , he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."( John 6:51)
---Ruben on 5/27/10


Jesus said, "Take and eat, this is my body" Then He took the wine and said, "This is My blood of the Covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" Through His death, Jesus would bring a new Exodus. Through the Cross, those in bondage would be set free.
Yet, when Jesus gave the apostles the bread and the wine and said those words, the apostles didn't understand him literally. Jesus had not yet died, He was there in person. How could they have thought it was the real literal blood or His flesh? Did Jesus cut a vain and poured blood in a cup? Cut off a peace of meat from Himself and layed it on the table? No. He was not speaking literally.
---MarkV. on 5/27/10


\\Rather, we worship the ENTIRE Christ, with His human and divine natures untied in one hypostasis (person).
---Cluny on 5/26/10\\

WHOOPS!

That should be "UNITED in one hypostasis (person)."
---Cluny on 5/27/10


The blood of the Lord Jesus Christ shed on the cross at Mount Calvary is the most important substance in the world to Christians.
---mima on 5/26/10


Not only that mima (all of what you stated), but Christ died ONCE AND FOR ALL .

OT sacrifices( bulls and goats) were made daily but also year after year REMINDING of sin, not cleansing.

Christ died and shed His Blood ONCE and for all, a better Covenant.

The RCC is nothing more than a mock levitical priesthood, lowering Jesus to nothing more than an animal sacrifice.



---kathr4453 on 5/27/10


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John 6:56He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him... 59These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum. 60Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying, who can hear it? 61When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

Did you ever wonder why Jesus was so harsh on the Pharisees? and vice versa? Jesus' venom towards them could not only be the hypocrasy that was apparent. The Pharisees from the beginning of Jesus' arrival had quickly began the plot to kill him. --Perhaps, Jesus was refering to what He knew what they were doing in secret, and they knew who He was and what it meant to them.
---aka.joseph on 5/27/10


\\If the teaching of transubstantiation is true then not only does the RCC teach cannibalism but also crucifies the Lord Jesus Christ over and over and over again on a daily basis.\\

It is not only the Roman Catholic Church that teaches this.

That the Bread and Wine become the Body and Blood of Christ is taught by the Orthodox, all the Eastern Churches, and even by Luther and Calvin.

Though I really doubt that you know what "transubstantiation" truly means, mima.

And the Roman Catholic Church does NOT teach that Christ is crucified over and over again.

In the mean time, I'm happy to be called a cannibal by people who reject the clear words of Jesus.

Keep on blessing me, mima.
---Cluny on 5/26/10


\\They don't even know what the Blood of Jesus means-I have 2 Catholic friends and they look at me funny when I ask them\\

Apparently, you never heard of the Feast of the Precious Blood on 1 July (with the month of July devoted to this in private devotions) or its related cultus, Sacred Heart (a movable feast, its cultus is in June).

Look on any Catholic site for "Precious Blood," and you'll be overwhelmed by a flood. I would give links here, but the policies of this site forbid it.

As for the Orthodox and other Eastern Christians, we don't worship Christ Jesus piece by piece or organ by organ.

Rather, we worship the ENTIRE Christ, with His human and divine natures untied in one hypostasis (person).
---Cluny on 5/26/10


I wonder how many people here are aware that veneration of and devotion to the Precious Blood of Christ is a feature of the Roman Catholic Church?

In fact, it's more highly developed than among Protestants.
---Cluny on 5/25/10

Cluny, where is that in scripture? Devotion to Mary is the number one thing I hear out of every Catholic's mouth when I speak to them. They don't even know what the Blood of Jesus means-I have 2 Catholic friends and they look at me funny when I ask them, well what do you think the Blood of Jesus means? They automatically start talking about Mary!!!
---Donna5535 on 5/26/10


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The RCC's treatment of Christ blood is very condemning of the RCC.
If the teaching of transubstantiation is true then not only does the RCC teach cannibalism but also crucifies the Lord Jesus Christ over and over and over again on a daily basis.
We are certain that symbolism was used by Jesus Christ at the Last Supper. The reason being he was physically standing there alive as he spoke about the wine being his blood and the bread being his body.

A common error made in Protestant churches is their objection to the useing of real wine.

The blood of the Lord Jesus Christ shed on the cross at Mount Calvary is the most important substance in the world to Christians.
---mima on 5/26/10


I wonder how many people here are aware that veneration of and devotion to the Precious Blood of Christ is a feature of the Roman Catholic Church?

In fact, it's more highly developed than among Protestants.
---Cluny on 5/25/10


I don't believe He even sees the blood when He looks at us. I believe He sees the effect of the blood, which is cleansing and redemption. God doesn't need to see through anything as if He had some infirmity. He sees us the way He begot us, as one of His own dear children saved, healed, delivered, justified, sanctified.....it is we who do not see things the way He does and fail to live out of the resources of the Spirit.
---Linda on 5/25/10


Donna66, I agree with you whole heartly. We might want to show God we are very holy when we come to pray by quoting the blood of Christ to God, but we cannot proof anything to God that He doesn't already know. He knows our hearts even before we pray. I believe when we come humbly to the Father, that is when He hears us. God will not listen to a proud heart.
---MarkV. on 5/25/10


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Regarding the OP, it doesn't bother me what somebody says when they speak to their Father, but I also see no need to speak those words like that. Think folks... if we ascribe power to an object or a thing, and we expect results from that object or thing, what does that object or thing become? Yes, an idol.

Now, many feel they need to say the name Jesus when they pray. But, we are called to pray in his NAME. The Hebrew word for name is shem... and shem means character, reputation, and AUTHORITY of the name bearer. So praying in his name isn't SAYING his name, it is doing it according to his will... being in his authority when you do it.

Peace.
Ken
---Ken on 5/25/10


My Grandmother when she prayed occasionally used this phrase. I see nothing wrong with it.

I also agree that we should not be prayer police trying to regulate how others pray. I believe that since we are little children to GOD that I loved to hear my little chlidren talk to me even when it was not perfect.
---Samuel on 5/25/10


I agree with Watchman Nee that the Blood of Jesus was shed for our sins so that when God looks at you, He sees the Blood of Jesus, not your sins.

Since the blood of Jesus has already been spilled on our behalf at the cross, I see no reason to include this phrase except as a reminder of what Jesus has done. If someone feels they are accomplishing something by including this statement in their prayers, I would disagree. But I'm not into evaluating the prayers of others.
God doesn't insist on any specific format for prayers.
---Donna66 on 5/24/10


Mima, I too agree with Tommy, that how a person prays is up to the person who is praying. It should not be anyone business what you are saying. We are taught in Scripture how to pray by Jesus, and it's up to the indiviual what he has to say to God. You do not have to mention the blood of Christ to God, he already knows. He needs no reminders.
---MarkV. on 5/25/10


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Donna, Amen!

I never looked at it from God's perspective. I guess the cover is good for the coverer as well as the coveree.
---aka_joseph on 5/24/10


I just read in one of Watchman Nee's books that the Blood of Jesus is not for us, it's for God.

Mr. Nee went on to explain that the Blood of Jesus was shed for our sins so that when God looks at you, He sees the Blood of Jesus, not your sins.

Also, someone else said, if you appropriate the Blood of Jesus over your life, it is powerful and cleanses you from all unrighteousness.

I think Jesus said, "ask the Father in my name" and that's why we pray "In Jesus name."
---Donna5535 on 5/24/10


//How Jesus' Blood rushed up me.//

The Blood is not about transfusion either. Spiritual cover and soap yes.

Repent
lather
repeat
---aka_joseph on 5/23/10


Mima, A question like this reminds me of the story I heard once about a father going in to listen to his little daughter say her bedtime prayers. When she started praying, the father stopped her after a minute or so and said, "Honey, I can't hear you." The little girl politely told him, "I wasn't talking to you." What other people say in their prayers should not be so much of a concern of ours. If they have been taught and led by the Holy Spirit, It will be alright.
---tommy3007 on 5/22/10


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Cluny, I was referring to DNA's unusual uses especially in New Age(mystical) thought that is bleeding into Christianity. Jesus provides His Blood as a cover not as a replacement.

In the Garden, God made clothes as temporary cover for Adam and Eve out of animal hide. In order to do that blood was shed. That is why God required blood sacrifice. However, God knew that the Logos would have to shed His Blood as a permanent covering. DNA is not spiritually exchanged in this lifetime.

Now, they say since you spiritually exchanged your DNA with God, you are becoming like a god. Isn't that what the serpent told Adam and Eve...you (pl)will be gods.

DNA (human flesh) is covered not replaced until we are judged and accepted.
---aka_joseph on 5/23/10


\\One day you'll know I speak the truth.\\

catherine, you're either nuts or living in spiritual delusion, controlled by a religious spirit.

I hope, for the salvation of your own soul, that you are simply nuts.
---Cluny on 5/23/10


What saves lost souls is belief and continuing faith.
---earl on 5/22/10


See I have told the truth of my own salvation. How Jesus' Blood rushed up me. The Blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin [1 John 1:7] The "Blood of Christ" designates in the NT the atoning death of Christ. Atonement refers to the basis and process by which estranged people become at one with God.... I do not care what religion you practice, If you have not been saved by Jesus' Blood you will die and to hell you go. I don't care what God that you worship, you will not be saved without the Blood of Jesus Christ. One day you'll know I speak the truth. When we identify with Jesus, we are no longer at odds with God. Removal of sins, "sprinkling with the Blood of Jesus Christ".
---catherine on 5/22/10


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The Blood, according to scripture, is what justified us. Declared us "not guilty" before God. Because the spilling of Christs blood *on our behalf* paid for our sins. Therefore it wiped them away. They are gone. Nothing for us to pay the penalty for anymore. That is why we have peace with God. No more enmity.
---JackB on 5/22/10


It's a Song!!! "Nothing But the Blood"
What can wash away my sin? Nothing but the blood of Jesus, What can make me whole again? Nothing but the blood of Jesus, Oh! precious is the flow That makes me white as snow, No other fount I know, Nothing but the blood of Jesus. I do approved that it's ok to say in my prayer "by the blood of Jesus Christ" it's done by Faith.
---Kimbe7395 on 5/22/10


Nothing wrong with the phrase " by the blood of Jesus Christ."
I do suppose that this includes more than just the liquid blood, but the act of dying, and forgiving sins.
---francis on 5/22/10


\\The Blood is what saves lost souls.\\

I thought we were saved by the ENTIRE Jesus Christ, catherine.

In any case, it's a relatively easy thing to see how many times "blood" is used in the New Testament. References to the "blood of Jesus/Christ" clearly have Eucharistic overtones.

\\I AM SO GLAD THERE IS A HELL.\\

If your heart were right with God, catherine, you would WEEP for lost sinners instead of exulting over their damnation.
---Cluny on 5/22/10


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When a Christian knows of the reality of the shed blood of Christ, there is nothing wrong with saying this in their prayers. And Omniscient God intentionally made blood to turn alarmingly red when it is exposed.
---Eloy on 5/22/10


the blood of jesus christ reminds the devil that he lost the battle against mankind but prayer to god must be in jesus' name not in jesus'blood that's my view.
---edward on 5/22/10


Oh, I whole-hearted approve. The Blood is not being preached today. It is a crazy. The Blood is what saves lost souls. Never diminish the Blood of Jesus. What that man went through for the likes of me and you. He did not even look human, our Savior, when these men placed Him on the cross. Men in power....I AM SO GLAD THERE IS A HELL.
---catherine on 5/21/10


\\Phrases like DNA of Christ has meaning mystically.\\

Not if you believe in the Biblical doctrine of the Incarnation: that the Logos was made human flesh.

If this is true, and Jesus rose from the dead in a glorified physical human body, then He has human, and not "mystical", DNA.
---Cluny on 5/21/10


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The question asks for an opinion, so here is mine.
I see nothing wrong with the inclusion of the phrase "by the blood of Jesus Christ" as part of a prayer. But some people believe that, somehow, a prayer without such a phrase would be inadequate. And they make a habit of saying it every time they pray.

"In Jesus name" is another phrase that's quite Biblical, but not necessary. There are no magic words that one can use to make sure a prayer is heard or answered. God looks on the heart.
---Donna66 on 5/21/10


God has said,without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin,it was by his blood we are washed clean,of course God needs no reminder of this,but we human beings should ponder this and realize who he did it for.would you die for someone?to the point of shedding blood?
---tom2 on 5/21/10


mima, I pray that you are covered with the blood of Jesus Christ. THE blood that cleanses from all sin. THE blood that carries away all our sickness, trials & sufferings. THE blood that makes us white as snow. THE impenetrable shield that protects us from all the fiery darts of the wicked. Oh, yes....THE precious blood of Jesus. THE blood that warms our souls & fills our spirits. Yes, THE blood of Jesus. I pray sweet surrender to THE blood of Jesus for all. Amen.
---fay on 5/21/10


Mima, if it makes them happy, why not...
---ger.toshav on 5/21/10


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We pray one of two ways - in the Spirit or in the flesh.

The Blood of Jesus Christ has meaning scripturally. Phrases like DNA of Christ has meaning mystically. If we prefer the latter and not the former, you might want to consider that He said "eat my body" and "drink my blood". if you do not get it or like it, take it up with Him.

His Blood covers us and cleanses us and purifies us. That person is doing you well when that person prays in Spirit.
---aka_joseph on 5/21/10


First, I'd say it depends on how someone is as a person.

And I think of how the blood of Christ is so essential in order for the New Covenant to have authority. So, possibly the person is claiming the authority of Jesus Christ's blood, by praying "by the blood of Jesus Christ", Mima.

But I understand that the power and authority of our prayer does not depend on saying "in the name of Jesus" or "by His blood" or whatever like this. But we need to *be* in His name and power, by *being* how God has us be in His love and obedience.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/21/10


Are you really called upon to have an opinion of other people's prayers, mima, much less solicit the judgement of other people?

I do what praying I consider necessary and proper for myself as devotion prompts, and am willing to allow others the same privilege.

Those who pray are not talking to me, or to you, mima.
---Cluny on 5/21/10


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