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Six Days To Create The World

Why did God write that He took six days to create the world?

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Is it really that important?

We KNOW God created the universe

We know God did it be His word

Isn't that enough?
---Emma on 6/4/10


athiest, God did not support either of them. That is what happens with sin still in the world. Man trying to conquer one another. It has happened all through history. That is not the will of God, but God permits it to happen until the Day of the Lord. When sin will be no more.
---MarkV. on 6/4/10


Who Did God Support? During the American Civil War people on both sides prayed for God's support, but who did God really support?
---atheist on 6/4/10


Warwick, accept cliff's advice.
---Eloy on 6/4/10


Hebraic perspective is concrete-action.
Roman-Greco is abstract:past-present-future.
In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth.[English]

Hebrew-Bereshyt-'In-Beginning'.
Is God not the Beginning?
Is God Not Spirit?
For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made,[even] His eternal power and Godhead: so that they are without excluse-Rom1:20

Though faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Jesus- the image of the invisible God.
Six is the number of man.
In six days... Exodus 20:11
---char on 6/4/10




David: "So jerry6593, ... because according to Paul at Hebrews 4:9, Gods day of rest was still running in his day."

This is one of the silliest excuses to break God's Commandments I've ever heard. God wrote with His own finger that He created the heaven and the earth in six days and rested (past tense - not continual) the seventh day. Heb 4:9 is talking about the weekly Sabbath being a perpetual Commandment - not a thousand year rest. He commands YOU to do the same, like Jesus and Paul did.

Luk 4:16 ... as his [Jesus'] custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day

Act 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
---jerry6593 on 6/4/10


The bible warns us not to perform any servile work on the Sabbath(S). But God did outline many things that should be done on the sabbath.

Example: Good works, which by the way is what the Father does on the sabbath,( and at all other times) and Jesus also did on the sabbath.

The work of the priest/ pastor must also be done on the sabbath.

At times, the work of a warrior must be done on the sabbath.
---francis on 6/3/10


God, being omniscient, knew when Israel was going to receive their laws. God set up the 7 day week on the first seven days of creation for man. Why would the seven creation days be any different than a typical earth day?
---micha9344 on 6/3/10


David who says God had ceased working after creation? Not Scripture!

John 5, 16-,17 " So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews persecuted him. Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working."

And of special significance for you verse 18 "For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him, not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
---Warwick on 6/3/10


So jerry6593, you must still be enjoying your rest day, because according to Paul at Hebrews 4:9, Gods day of rest was still running in his day.

There is no indication even to this day that Gods 7th day has been declared completed by God as he did at the conclusion for each of the previous 6 days.

So if you believe we are to take each 'creative day' literally as God commanded in your understanding, then you are having an awfully long day off.

But it appears as usual that you fail to understand what the purpose of Gods 7th day is even for us now, which is why you (and Warwick) insist the creative periods 1-7 are 24hours long.
---David8318 on 6/3/10




Warwick, Name one "scripture" written "pre-flood" (and in what language) we're talking ,like 1500 years?
---1st_cliff on 6/3/10


Warwick,

Read the question of this blog, and then reread the quote.

You really don't need an explanation, do you?



LOL
---atheist on 6/3/10


Eloy you miss the point, that being that we do not translate one language, whatever it is, into another word, for word. If we did we we would end up with the meaningless 'translation' of 2 Peter 3:8 verse you came up with- "Now upon this let not be hidden from you, beloved, that one day of Lord that a thousand years, and a thousand years that day one." II Peter 3:9. No English translation that I know of has such a 'translation' for obvious reasons.

I am sure you will have something further to say upon this but I am leaving this morning and will be away for a week.
---Warwick on 6/3/10


Warwick, the original scriptures are proven to be written in Hebrew and Greek, France did not get their translations from the originals until much later.
---Eloy on 6/3/10


I've never met a true atheist. All the people I have met who proclaimed to be atheist were actually Christians who had been hurt by other Christians judging them unrighteously.
---fay on 6/3/10


Warwick, again, the original scriptures were written in Hebrew and Greek, the propagation and translation to other countries and languages came afterward after the original writings. I reiterate: the greek word in II Peter 3:8 is "hos", "that": the word is not "homoios", "like" as you wrongly say. And in Hebrew the conjunction word is "kiy", "that". lit.Gk: "Now upon this let not be hidden from you, beloved, that one day of Lord that a thousand years, and a thousand years that day one." II Peter 3:9. lit.Hb: "For a thousand years in your sight that yesterday when it is past, and a watch in the night." Psalm 90:4.
---Eloy on 6/3/10


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David: "Just because God compares his 'creative week' to that of mans working week does not mean God's 'day' is 24hrs long"

Compares? My Bible calls them the Ten COMMANDMENTS - not the ten comparisons, the ten suggestions, or the ten options. God commands us to work six days and rest ONLY on the one day He made holy - the seventh-day Sabbath. Why? so that we can rest up, watch sports on TV, etc? No! He clearly explains that it is so that we REMEMBER who created this world, and don't fall for long-age, man-made creation theories.
---jerry6593 on 6/3/10


Mark thank you for your encouragement.

It is a privilege that God has called, and equipped me to defend His word against various breeds of scoffers.

On Monday I received a call from an exAtheist who says God used me to bring him to Christ, some years ago. He explained that as an Atheist he attended a church to learn how best to undermine Christianity. One Sunday I came and gave a talk about Biblical creation vs evolution. He says after the talk he came over to challenge me. But that was fatal as God spoke to him through me, and he was the one challenged, leading to his salvation.

He is now a very excited youth leader in a very active church.

Praise God for that! So there is hope for our own atheist.
---Warwick on 6/2/10


Warwick, I think you have done great answering, Athiest, a few cult members and others. Just to discuss Scripture with an athiest is almost impossible, then to answer a cult member who trashes the deity of Christ and can put down twenty passages so that it would take you days to answer them all is a tribute to you for holding out as you have. No one here likes to take those people on. I know I don't. What can you really discuss with an athiest that is spiritual? Not much. But you have done great brother.
---MarkV. on 6/2/10


atheist I am not sure what you think the Augustine quote is saying. You have obviously quoted it, thinking it supports your case. Please explain how!
---Warwick on 6/2/10


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Eloy my using French was not a sidetrack at all, but an example of translation. It demonstrates why Biblical linguistic experts have not translated the verse the way you did, as your word for word translation makes no sense in English.

You are correct that in English we say "yes yes, worship the Lord God." But the Bible was also written for the French, and the Irish, and the Russian, wasn't it.
---Warwick on 6/2/10


"It happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that [a non-Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are. " Augustine, 408 CM.
---atheist on 6/2/10


"It happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that [a non-Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are. " Augustine, 408 CM.
---atheist on 6/2/10


Larry there is only one beginning, and that is the beginning of Gods 6 day creation. The earth is therefore only a few days older than man. God's word clearly says "For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and all that is in them", exodus 20:11 Everything that was created was made in that 6 day period.

I do not look for a fight but will always defend God's word against error. I reject your nonBiblical view but I do not reject you.

I agree that Genesis 1:2 is Scripture but I believe you are reading something into it that simply is not there.

If you believe Scripture disagree with me please show me where, and how.


---Warwick on 6/2/10


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Warwick, you are getting sidetracked with French, when the scriptures are written in Hebrew and Greek, and thereby you are convoluting the scripture. God's word is plain so the simple can understand, he did not say, "oui oui, adorez le Seigneur Dieu", but instead he says, "yes yes, worship the Lord God".
---Eloy on 6/2/10


Yes Warwick but the issue though is not really about creation but how long is a 'creative day'. Exodus 20 is not discussing the length of 'a day' with God or humans.

The context of Exodus 20 is how to structure the working week, not how long a day should be.

Just because God compares his 'creative week' to that of mans working week does not mean God's 'day' is 24hrs long anymore than God saying he has arms, eyes and ears mean that he literally does have arms, eyes and ears.

The Israelites knew how long a day was. Exodus 20 is not telling them something they already knew. What they didn't know as Moses (and you) admit was how long 'a day' was/is to God, because He is eternal. Ps.90:4.
---David8318 on 6/2/10


James: "(except that Ex 20:1 is says that God spoke, not He wrote)."

Deu 9:10 And the LORD delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of God, and on them was written according to all the words, which the LORD spake with you in the mount

Fay: Yes, the question is intended to stimulate discussion on a very important subject. Since the subject is so popular, the 75-post limit is always reached in short order. Thus the need to repost. Too bad CN will not raise the 75-post limit.

Cluny: "I neither accept a literal 6 24 hour day period, nor do I reject it." You must be an agnostic then.
---jerry6593 on 6/2/10


Seq you wrote "If God himself said six days! Who am I to argue against God!
Its not Warwick were arguing with!"

Thanks for that. As I have often said, my opinions do not matter, who am I?' We do not need opinions, but understanding. He has given us the clear truth which we accept or reject at our peril.

"All your words are true: all your righteous laws are eternal." Psalm 119:160
---Warwick on 6/1/10


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chris: "The creation account is symbolic.. Most of the Book of Revelation is symbolic,.."

Today's christians are just too educated. They try to understand the past language and culture using today's standards. The vocabulary 2,000 years ago was tens of thousands where today it's in the millions each having several definitions. How would John, the writer of Revaltion, describe a helicopter?

Today's christians read novels and school textbooks at face value, but they read the bible as thought every verse must have a meaning. The bible is nothing more than a history book of God's relatiosnhip with his creation. A history book that spans time from the first day of creation all is fulfilled.
---Steveng on 6/1/10


Warwick, Genesis 1:2 IS scripture. The earth is not young as it was created in the "beginning" unless there is a new argument that beginning doesn't mean beginning.
God then moved across the waters and the narrative is full steam ahead for "human" environment.
Quit looking for a fight. My point was meant to edify by reminding all scripture doesn't begin in verse 3. Nothing I said disagrees with your argument beyond your first didatic declarative statement.
God bless.
---larry on 6/1/10


Eloy, correct translation transfers the meaning of language 1 into the correct meaning in language 2.

Consider the French 'Qu'est-ce que c'est cette maison?' Word for word = 'What is it that it is that house?' The correct meaning is "What is that house?'

This is why all translations say "...a day is likeor as a a thousand years, and a thousand years are like or as a a day." In this context like and as a carry the same meaning. The verse does not say a day is a thousand years or vice versa, to anyone.

Not one transaltes it "that one day of Lord that a thousand years, and a thousand years that day one." For obvious reasons.
---Warwick on 6/1/10


Yes David, but Exodus confirms that God's days of creation were of the same length as the 24hr days they lived. Otherwise language has no meaning.

No David, God is eternal therefore does not live in days of any length, If He did He would no longer be eternal. 2 Peter 3:8 points out that God is outside of time. It does not say a day is a thousand years or a thousand years is a day, to anyone. At anyrate it has nothing to do with creation at all. Context David!

"'A day' with God is 'like' in human terms 'a 1000 years'." But you should have added that the verse also says a thousand years is like a day.
---Warwick on 6/1/10


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"It happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that [a non-Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are. " Augustine, 408 CM.
---atheist on 6/1/10


Exodus 20 does not tell the Israelites how long their day was to be. They already knew it to be 24hrs long.

The timing of a day is not on the agenda at Exodus 20.

What God is telling the Israelites at Exodus 20 is how to structure their working week. They all knew God was not in mans count of 24hrs, but they understood to structure their working week on God's 'creative week' (ie, 'work 6, rest on the 7th').

Moses, the writer of both Exodus 20 and Psalms 90:4 understood the vast difference between mans count of 'a day' and that of 'a day' with God.

'A day' with God is 'like' in human terms 'a 1000 years'. As nobody has lived over 1000yrs, 'a day' with God is thus immeasurable.
---David8318 on 6/1/10


Warwick, the greek word in II Peter 3:8 is "hos", "that": the word is not "homoios", "like" as you wrongly say. And in Hebrew the conjunction word is "kiy", "that". lit.Gk: "Now upon this let not be hidden from you, beloved, that one day of Lord that a thousand years, and a thousand years that day one." II Peter 3:9. lit.Hb: "For a thousand years in your sight that yesterday when it is past, and a watch in the night." Psalm 90:4. And we know this is the correct definition, because the Lord told Adam in the day that he eats of the tree he will die, and Adam lived to be only 930 years old, which is less that a full day to God.
---Eloy on 6/1/10


A simple truth!

I myself believed for the longest time.
It was better to say six parts or periods or some unknown time.
Because, who really know!

But one day, Warwick pointed out, that God doesnt say that.
He said six days! I found it so easy to except. Done!

If you think for a minute, why do we try to argue against it?
Isnt it just to make things fit better? (And say see!)

I know this, if someone points out a truth to me!
I would be a fool to think it something else, and try to argue against it.
If God himself said six days! Who am I to argue against God!
Its not Warwick were arguing with!

Again thank you
Warwick
---TheSeg on 6/1/10


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Chris let me call your bluff. Please supply Biblical evidence that the creation account is symbolic. I trust that when you are unable to do so you will posess sufficient integrity to admit it is your view, and not from Scripture.

When we have go to that point we can discuss that as you say "God himself tried to deceive us with planting false evidence in the physical world around us..."
---Warwick on 6/1/10


Warwick: Thank you for your explanation....

Of course, ANYONE who uses the rejection of 24 hour to reject the fact of God creating the universe is BADLY off

I was just trying to make sure I (who knows very little about these things) do not over-accuse someone who merely has a weak faith

And I fully understand your views

PS - I take it to be 24 hours, as I have no indication not to!
---Mark on 6/1/10


Chris: Many people feel the same way (I know a lot, at least), but there is always a big danger

I have noted that many people go, too easily, from 'symbolic' to 'I'll interpret this as I want' and then proceed to interpret the Bible as they personally prefer.......

I am NOT accusing you, I just want to say that some people take 'symbolic' in a very dangerous way
---peter3594 on 6/1/10


The creation account is symbolic, not literal. Lots and Lots of stuff in the bible is symbolic. Most of the Book of Revelation is symbolic, as is much of Ezekial, Isaiah, Jeremiah? How about Pharoah's dream that required interpretation by Joseph. How about the king's dream that needed interpretation by Daniel? Physical evidence seems quite clear that the creation account given in the bible is symbolic or simply overly simplified. If not, God himself tried to deceive us with planting false evidence in the physical world around us and I tend not to want to assume that God has tried to deceive us.
---chris on 5/31/10


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Larry your view isn't Scriptural.

Genesis begins "In the beginning, (only 1 beginning) ending with "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning-the Sixth day. Everything was made in 6 days. And 'very good' therefore never a mess/corrupted/destroyed.

Further Exodus 20:11 says "For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them." "heavens and earth is a Hebrew merism meaning everything, the whole universe and everything in it. Everything is everything.

Notice also that verse 11 begins with 'For' because God was telling the Hebrews to work 6-days for/because He created in 6 days.
---Warwick on 5/31/10


He didn't create the world is 6 days he prepared it for humans in 6 days. The world was already here void and without form. It was some big mass of who knows what.

We don't know why other than 7 is the number of completeness as creation of life was a 7 day process. It would have not been complete with just 6 days.
God bless.
---larry on 5/31/10


Mark, I suppose it is possible that weak faith is a cause for disbelief. However I have not experienced that with those who won't accept what Scripture says.

Scripture clearly says the days of creation are ordinary 24hr days. I have repeatedly asked them for any Biblical support for their view. The only quote they supply is 2 Peter 3:8 which has nothing to do with creation and does not say a day is not a day to anyone.

Decades of experience shows me those who reject 24hr days have accepted the evolutionary long-ages and therefore will not believe what God says. Man's changing opinions are their authroity, not God.
---Warwick on 5/31/10


Cluny, it is nonsense to suggest the Bible was written for God's instruction. I think you have been breathing too much candle smoke!

You neither accept or reject 24hr days. How faithless is that! You are fence-sitting, a position of nonFaith. It is by faith we accept what God has told us, not by our falible opinions, or feelings.

Dictionaries show there are 3 definitions of 'day.' When accompanied by a number (either 1 day or 1st day etc) it always means a 24hrs. The Holman Bible Dictionary says Genesis 1:5 defines a 24hr day. It's exact length is irrelevant.

Both Scripture and grammar say only 24hr days.
---Warwick on 5/31/10


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Eloy, read 2 Peter 3:8 "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years are like a day."

This does not define God's day-length.:

It does not say a thousand years is a day or a day is a thousand years. The sentence cancels itself out

The context demonstrates God's timelessness, not living days of any length.

A day of 24hrs exists on earth, and is therefore for us, therefore must be an earth-rotation, evening and morning 24hr day.

Psalm 144:4 "Man is like a breath: his days are like a fleeting shadow." Are our days a breath or a fleeting shadow or is this verse saying that compared to God's eternality our time here is very brief?
---Warwick on 5/31/10


"It happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that [a non-Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are. " Augustine, 408 CM.
---atheist on 5/31/10


Warwick: 'From my experience those who will not accept 6 24hr days do so for nonBiblical reasons. For the changing opinions of falible sinful men they reject the word of God'

While I agree that many, even most, who do that do it for that reason, is it not POSSIBLE that some just do it because their faith is too weak, and they can accept 6 creation 'periods' but, at least for now, their faith get 'stuck' on the word day?

Maybe..... just maybe, we could ask them WHY (each one separately)

Or am I being too naive? Maybe?
---Mark on 5/31/10


jerry6593, I have to wonder why you asked this question since you have posted so many answers as if you were satified you already knew the answer. Were you just looking for arguments or what? I don't mean this sarcastically. Just wondering why.
---fay on 5/31/10


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\\Cluny you know as well as me that the Bible is God's word for us.\\

God's word--not necessarily the same as God's words.

\\ It is not God's word for God, obviously.\\

Is it so obvious?

\\ From my experience those who will not accept 6 24hr days do so for nonBiblical reasons. For the changing opinions of falible sinful men they reject the word of God.\\

I neither accept a literal 6 24 hour day period, nor do I reject it.

However, there does seem to be evidence, as I've mentioned before, that if "day" means the time the earth takes to rotate once on its axis, this has varied from considerably less than 24 hours to slightly more--and may become much more.
---Cluny on 5/31/10


Jerry: I agree with you (except that Ex 20:1 is says that God spoke, not He wrote).....

I am just trying to say that there are 'little' mistakes in belief, where we can tell the person that 'well, that's not quite right, but you will not be condemned for believeing that' and there are BIG mistakes (believing the universe was made without God) for which one will be condemned

This is just something I say because, while I agree with you that 'yom' is 24 hours, I meed believing Christians who have some difficulty, who admit that it IS a difficulty - I do not think that is terrible - we all have weakness in our faith!
---James on 5/31/10


Time is one long continuum, and God divided up time into days and weeks and years for man, not God: one day in heaven to God, is equal to one thousand years on earth to man.
---Eloy on 5/31/10


James, Cluny: Just so there would be no confusion, God clearly wrote with His own finger in stone that He created the heaven and the earth in six days and rested the seventh (Ex 20:11). Thus he defined our weekly cycle for us and COMMANDED us to REMEMBER these facts (Ex 20:8) so that we would never forget who the REAL Creator God was.

Not only have you forgotten what God commanded you to remember, but you have created a theological conundrum for yourselves. If your interpretations are correct, then either the Bible is in error, God made a mistake, was just kidding about the Commandments, or He is intentionally deceiving us. None of these options are consistent with God's character.
---jerry6593 on 5/31/10


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Warwick:

I did not mean to argue to you, as I believe that your view of 24 hours is correct

I just say that IF (and only if) a believer were to say "I believe God did ALL the creating, in 6 periods, but I think each day was not 24 hours', I would just say 'I disagree' as opposed to 'you are a heretic' - that was what I meant!

Blessings, Warwick, you are very good at thinking, I like reading your posts!
---James on 5/31/10


Cluny you know as well as me that the Bible is God's word for us. It is not God's word for God, obviously. If it was then He wrote the 10 Commandments for Himself not us! Therefore when He says 6 days in Genesis 1, Exodus 20:8-11,31:17 and elsewhere He must mean 6 of our everyday ordinary 24hr earth days.

From my experience those who will not accept 6 24hr days do so for nonBiblical reasons. For the changing opinions of falible sinful men they reject the word of God.

---Warwick on 5/30/10


The Jewish sages wrote the six-day creation account later and read it back into Genesis. Perhaps they wrote it so we'd have something to argue about! :-)
---ger.toshav on 5/30/10


You people are just too educated to understand spiritual matters. You all read novels and school textbooks at face value, not questioning what is written. Why not the bible? Today's over educated christian reads every verse of the bible trying to look for meanings that are not there.

If you don't believe that God created the universe in six days then you don't believe any of the miracles Jesus performed especially bringing Lazarus back to life.

When God created the heavens and the earth, he put every atom in its place. The earth didn't have to wait 8-1/2 minutes for sunlight to reach earth because God created each atom in its place.

Many of you know of God, but definately deny his power.
---Steveng on 5/30/10


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I think we should know
Until God says it is, it isnt.
No Holy Ghost until God said here
No salvation till God said Christ
No promise till God made it
No laws till God gave you them
No life till God said live

Until god said this is one day, there is no day
So why worry about how long a day is or was or will be

By now you should know, its whatever God says
Do these kinds of thing really help you see and understand God!

Dont they lead to more mistrust, doubt, debate whether something is or isnt
Im not saying dont talk about it.
But, if you believe God can do anything then what isnt possible, is!
God Bless
---TheSeg on 5/30/10


I believe, as an article of my faith, that Creation is an orderly and sequential process begun and directed by God. This is what Genesis describes.

Since God lives outside of time, and has made it abundantly clear in Scripture that He does not perceive time as we do, the timeframe I leave an open question.
---Cluny on 5/30/10


James the idea that all or some of the days of creation are not ordinary 24hr days has been posed before. However it has no Scriptural support.

God's word only allows for 6 ordinary days.

In Genesis 1:3-5 God created light. He says this light created 'night' darkness, and 'day' light. He says 'And there was evening and there was morning-the first day.' Evening is the end of daylight. Morning, the end of night- 1day! God defined day one and used the same definition for the 5 following days. There is no Biblical, gramatical or logical reason to consider the 6 days are not 6 equal days.

God confirms this in Exodus 20:8-11, 31:17

Your idea does not come from Scripture-where does it come from?
---Warwick on 5/30/10


Peter, we do not take all Scripture or any literature literally, but at face value, unless there is good reason not to. Consider "The moon was a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas,.."

Do we imagine the moon is actually a ship sailing upon clouds? Compare this to the straight-forward prose of Genesis 1. Why would we take it as other than God's historical revelation?

Read Matthew 19:4 "Haven't you read," he replied "that at the beginning the creator made them male and female.."

There is nothing in Genesis 1 or Matthew 19 to cause us to take it as anything but historical reality, as it is treated elsewhere in Scripture.
---Warwick on 5/30/10


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Cluny, Warwick: The last comment about 'literistic interpretation' is perhaps confused.

To describe something as literalistic, you must have understood that there is in fact a difference between literal and metaphorical

I suspect that many of the older readers of the Bible did not even bother about whether it was literal or not - they just believed what they read

It was only after some poeple (liberals, mostly) decided to try to explain away the Bible by saying it is only 'metaphor' did we get the difference
---peter3594 on 5/30/10


Jerry: There are two possibilities

(1) God did in fact take 6 days, though for the first three days there was no sun and moon, so the 24 hours are still uncertain - more Biblical

(2) The 6 (or 7) days mean 6 periods, each involving a different part of creation. This is less Biblical, and I don't like it so much, but I would not argue with someone who believe it - UNLESS he/she were to use that belief to argue against the FACT that God did ALL the creating
---James on 5/30/10


Cluny, notwithstanding what you wrote elsewhere in 1909 Lyman and Milton Stewart provided for the publication of a series of 94 essays on conservative Christian theology, 'The Fundamentals: A Testimony to the Truth.'

These expounded upon the core doctrines essential or fundamental to biblically based Christianity, i.e.

1.The inerrancy of the Bible
2.The virgin birth of Christ
3.The substitutionary atonement of Christ
4.The bodily resurrection of Christ
5.The authenticity of Christs miracles.5
Throughout the 1920s, in the USA, fundamentalists and modernists struggled for control of the larger denominations.

This is where the term 'Fundameltalism' came from, and the sense in which I use it.
---Warwick on 5/30/10


Cluny, you wrote "Most of the human race throughout recorded history has not believed in a literalistic interpretation of Genesis." I am not sure what you mean by "a literalistic interpretation" but the church has traditionally taken Genesis as recorded history, as written. This is also the way Jesus and the apostles took it. They alluded to or quoted from the first 11 books of Genesis 107 times-always as fact.

I have given this information many times and no one has ever been able to show otherwise. In Matthew 19:4,5 It is recorded that Jesus quoted from Genesis 1:27 and 2:24 as the factual foundation for Christian marriage. This also shows He did not consider these chapters contained contradictory creation accounts.
---Warwick on 5/30/10


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Cluny: "Actually, Moses wrote it, not God." Again you do show your lack of biblical knowledge.

Exo 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
---jerry6593 on 5/30/10


'atheist': "I have been repeatedly told here that no one can know the mind of 'god' [sic]."

Deu 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

"So who is it that you expect to answer such a question?"

Certainly not an agnostic 'atheist'.
---jerry6593 on 5/30/10


He created times and seasons in Gen 1:
the solar year, the lunar month, the typical day, and He created the week from the 7 day creation.
There is no other reason for we, as humans, to abide by a 7 day week other than Gen 1.
---micha9344 on 5/30/10


"Why did God write that He took six days to create the world?" He did not. Made and created are different words with different meanings both in the Hebrew and English languages.
What is written is "For [in] six days the LORD 'made' (asah-brought forth from, advanced, dressed, prepared, etc.) heaven and earth,.." Ex. 20:11>31:17
No time frame is given for the 'creation' of the cosmos. It simply reads "In the beginning God 'created' (bara-to form, as by cutting [as in the original formative process]) 'the' (eth-used to point out the definite object referenced) heaven and 'the' earth.
Made-produced from pre-existing tangible materials.
Created-caused to come into being, as something unique from the unseen.
---joseph on 5/30/10


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Fay: Scientists have proven that far out in space there is no time because there is no gravity.

Interesting.... I wonder where you foound nonsense like that

It is in clear variation of physics, which has alread shown that gravity and time are INDEPENDENT

Please chack, and only post things that are true

I am getting tired of nonsense on this site - at least as bad as on non-Christian sites
---Martha on 5/30/10


Oh? Are we talking about Genesis 1 for a change?

Actually, Moses wrote it, not God.

The only things God is known to have written--the 10 Commandmenets and in the dust on the Temple floor in John 8--have not survived.

\\It is the TRUTH that He knew would be attacked in the last days and so it is.
---Pierre on 5/29/1\\

Where did you get the idea this is a "last days" thing?

Most of the human race throughout recorded history has not believed in a literalistic interpretation of Genesis.
---Cluny on 5/29/10


There are at least six diffident creation accounts in scripture. Two in Genesis, two is Psalms. one in Job and in in the gospel of John. The common element in all of them is God did the creation. All have different time lengths. All of these Biblical accounts were written when people though the world was flat had edges and the Earth was the center of the known universe. And we know that is not correct and any creation account associated with that concept is not correct. But Gog created every thing with in the laws of physics. The length of time does not matter and we don't have a factual account of how God did it, but it his here and it works. The Earth is like a self cleaning oven we muck it up and God pushes the clean cycle when needed.
---Friendly_Blogger on 5/29/10


jerry6593, I know that some things can be confusing when you first get into the Bible.

2 Peter 3:8 says a day is as a thousand years to God and a thousand years is as a day. Because to God there is no real time. Scientists have proven that far out in space there is no time because there is no gravity. So it may seem like "How in the world could God have made all that in just 6 days," but the Word also tells us that nothing is too hard for God. (Jer. 32:17) And the fact is that during those 6 days was when he created day & night, so He created the time frame.
---fay on 5/29/10


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God said it because it is true
---francis on 5/29/10


God wrote that it took Him six days to create
the world (and that He rested on the 7th day) because it is the TRUTH!
It is the TRUTH that He knew would be attacked in the last days and so it is.
---Pierre on 5/29/10


I have been repeatedly told here that no one can know the mind of 'god'.

So who is it that you expect to answer such a question?
---atheist on 5/29/10


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