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How To Have Spiritual Victory

I would like to ask is their anyone that belives that a Christian can maintain Spiritual Victory without a consistent prayer life, God's word, and the presence of the Holy Spirit in control of their lives?

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 ---Michael on 5/31/10
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catherine --- Don't ignore the messes God's people have made. We're not entirely blameless in this world, you know.
---Donna66 on 6/5/10

It is time that God's people came together and try to clean up all the messes that Satan and his people has caused. We are here to do something other than to keep those Sunday morning pews hot.
---catherine on 6/4/10

The simple answer is, no.

However, how is spiritual victory defined?
The impression I get from the question is that "spiritual victory" is somekind of a constant "everything" is going good type of thing.

Growth in Christ is sometimes painful. Being humbled doesn't feel victorious.
God disciplines who he loves, and that isn't always pleasant.

Sometimes believers are being transformed even when they don't feel like it.

Furthermore, in getting back to answering the question, people need to be careful. How much prayer, Bible reading is enough? If people are not careful, they start to try to work themselves into "victory."
---Rod4Him on 6/3/10

The answer is NO! However, one must remember that victories come from God, Himself. I use to wonder about this. I was staying in prayer, and everything. When God said to me, "victories only comes from me". Took a lot of pressure off me.
---catherine on 6/3/10

"Works" have no GODLY spiritual value, but for various reasons, MAN feels differently and tries to impress the GREAT GOD OF THE UNIVERSE with SELF-EFFORT (what's next...handstands?).

Acts 17:25..."nor is he served by human hands".

The ancient uncivilized pagan societies were told many things in order for them to first LEARN TO BE CIVIL and REVERENT TO ONE GOD. WE ("TRUE worshippers", John 4:23) should not live by the words that DID PROCEED out of God's mouth 2000 years ago, but by the words that DO PROCEED PRESENTLY....RIGHT? (Matthew 4:4).

YOU form your own devotion (PERSONAL), not from scripture and gestures/protocol, but from your heart.
---more_excellent_way on 6/3/10


You speak of works as if they are a BAD thing. While it's true that they can't save us, they're perfectly good for what they are. Look at the example of the Good Samaritan - Jesus praised his actions, yet those actions were "works". James 2 talks all about how we demonstrate our faith through our works.
---StrongAxe on 6/2/10

Performing WORKS of any kind mocks The Lord's GRACIOUS giving. We receive His grace out of HIS love for us (not by our effort, but HIS GRACE). Let HIS GRACE be SUPREME.

These are called "works of righteousness" (they have no spiritual value to Jesus, they are "dead").

We "repented" by coming to Jesus. We should not lay "AGAIN" a foundation of repentance, nor a foundation of "works" (JESUS is our ONLY foundation) and we should not have a simple 'believing faith' towards God, but now we should have a "faith FOR FAITH".

Hebrews 6:1
"not laying again a foundation of repentance".

Romans 1:17
"is revealed through faith for faith".
---more_excellent_way on 6/2/10

Are not maintaining a constant spiritual victory, consistent prayer life, and reading the Bible WORKS?
---Cluny on 6/2/10

Mike -- It's impossible to judge what's wrong... especially without knowing the man or anything about him. But it's quite possible to "preach" for years without having a personal type relationship with God. It's possible to read the Bible for years and yet not fully believe it.
---Donna66 on 6/1/10

well, I read in another website that a pastor was preaching for years & years but he decided to become an atheist or that the word he preach still made him feel empty.

so what's wrong.
---mike on 6/1/10

A Christian spiritual victory comes about not because of anything the individual does.
The spiritual victory of the Christian is certain because of the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit!
---mima on 6/1/10

Hi. Do you mean can a person attain spiritual perfection? Not in this Life. The important thing is to ask for the Lords direction and will until it becomes habit throughout each day. This will decrease your anxieties and depressions.
Trust in the Lord always. Sometimes we try to do the driving. A good learning experience sometimes not too delightful.
---Dan4978 on 6/1/10

Michael, why don't you try it and let us know. lol.

It is impossible to me (this is just my experience with the Lord for the last 27 years) that everything is done through and with a consistent prayer life, studying and obeying and doing God's word on a daily basis and all of this is done with the help of the Holy Spirit. He is our guide, our comforter, and He executes God's plan for our lives as we are the temple of the Holy Ghost.

I do NOT believe that a Christian can maintain Spiritual Victory without these things being done in their lives - that person is an unbeliever who believes this.
---Donna5535 on 6/1/10

Sounds more like preaching than a question. LOL
---KarenD on 6/1/10

God's Word, going to services, prayer life etc, It All works together because it's the fuel.

You canNot go anywhere in your car unless you put gas in it, fuel-oil, or plug into electric.
---Lawrence on 6/1/10

Michael, are you asking a question or making a statement?

Somehow, this sounds more like a rhetorical question that demands one agree with your own stand, no matter what that may be.
---Cluny on 6/1/10

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